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Hardware issue disclosure

Hardware issue disclosure

What happened?

Thanks to the recent post, I've discovered a hardware issue with the USB connection.

The issue is present in all rev8 and rev9 boards, including, unfortunately, a large recent batch that is currently finishing production in China.

What is the issue?

USB power works fine, but USB data doesn't go through at first, requiring you to restart the device 3–5 times. As the issue is in the hardware, it affects both DFU mode and the regular firmware.

What to do?

If you are planning to use the device wired, you will have to restart it several times before use by clicking the "reset" button, waiting at least 1 second between clicks, until it is detected by your OS.

If "double-click reset to enter DFU" doesn't work for you even after that, hold the top-top-left button ("Enter" in the default keymap) and single-click the "reset" button. You may need to do this several times as well, until it shows up as a storage device.

Can it be repaired?

Yes, a bodge wire repair is possible, but it's a tough job.

Here's the wire you'd need to run: https://postimg.cc/5HJWXWmB

My policy

Unfortunately, I will not be able to replace boards affected by this issue. It is an annoyance and a point of frustration, but it's not something critical that prevents the device from working. I ask for your understanding in this matter — more than a hundred affected boards have already been shipped, and more than two hundred will depart from China in a few days. I simply don't have the resources to run a recall campaign.

I will, however, attempt to repair the boards that have not been shipped yet. To be honest, I'm not too confident it's within my skills. Repairing one or two is certainly doable, but repairing hundreds might result in a huge percentage of permanently destroyed boards. I will post an update on the matter once I have the necessary tools, which I have already ordered.

Technical details

The rev7 hardware had a different charging IC — the AXP2585 — with a power path output, labeled as the "VBUS" net. The IC was discontinued, and in rev8 I replaced it with a different chip that does not have an integrated power path. The "VBUS" net was used in a single place — to power the USB multiplexer, which exists solely for the purpose of fast charging. Unfortunately, I managed to make the silliest possible mistake: I missed this connection and left the "VBUS" net where the power should go, effectively leaving the power input of the multiplexer floating. I truly have no idea why it starts working after several reboots. The floating capacitor must somehow charge from the electric fields created by the various processes that happen on boot. The multiplexer obviously uses MOSFETs internally, so once there's enough voltage on the capacitor, it keeps working and doesn't misbehave anymore, until the capacitor is somehow discharged again.

The fact that it works after several restarts made me believe it was either some kind of production issue or a software issue. I had to perform the restarting routine when flashing the boards, but they behaved fine after that, which also made me believe it would not affect customers. I didn't find the root cause earlier because, typically, by the time I receive a batch of boards, there are already a dozen emails asking when an order will ship. In any case, this was stupid of me, and I should've debugged it properly.

I'm really sorry for the experience, and I hope it won't cause major frustration with the device.

u/No_Pilot_1974 — 1 day ago
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Frequent USB connection errors

Hi

I'm facing frequent USB connection issues with my endgame.

whenever i try to connect it to a PC via a USB, I get "Unknown USB device (devide descriptor request failed)"

I'll have to plug/unplug it multiple times before it vonnects successfully (although there is no issue with bluetooth connection)

is this a hardware (trackball) issue or a windows issue?

also, i think i saw in some video about endgame that once you connect it to a PC, the device shows up like a storage media and you can access the firmware. is that still true? because mine doesn't (never) show up as a storage media

u/crime_Mastr_GOGO — 2 days ago

Kinda stupid doubt, but how do you turn on the endgame trackball?

i know this might be a bit silly doubt, bit how do you turn it on??

theres a key combination to turn off the trackball - that works great, but then how do you turn it back on again?

there's a button next to the usb C oort, pressing that does turn on the trackball, but it also resets the key map i had set.

another option is to olug in the usb cable, but that also doesn't sound a very practical option.

so am i missing something obvious??

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u/crime_Mastr_GOGO — 7 days ago

Zooming in/out in CAD softwares with endgame?

Hi

i have just received my endgame and I'm trying out the features

currently I'm not able to zoom in/out in my CAD software.

i thought the twist to scroll would also work as zoom, but it doesnt.

is there any workaround for this or would i have to assign two buttons for zoom in/out?

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u/crime_Mastr_GOGO — 8 days ago