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A Sadventist was interviewed on The Good Liars recently

For those unfamiliar with this show, the host is being facetious at the end. Here is the full clip.

u/LMG_White — 8 hours ago

my friend could be dying in the hospital on a friday night and my parents would still not let me see them

title is a bit exaggerated lmaoo but genuinely that’s what ts feels like.

i’m 20 years old and just moved back into my parents house after living on-campus at my university for 2 years. they expect me to fall right back into their “household rules” of keeping the sabbath. this means no going out on fridays after sunset even if i’m not doing anything particularly crazy. tn i just wanted to go to the store with my friend, i told them i wasn’t buying anything & just wanted to spend time with her before she leaves for vacay in 2 days. they immediately said no.

i can’t work on friday nights or saturdays and i honor that even if it means losing money that i def need. i’m forced to go to church at least 2 times a month and when i don’t go i have to be out of bed, in the living room, watching virtual church. but the thing that frustrates me most is it’s a double standard. BOTH of them have worked on saturdays and have gone to brunches, dinners, and other activities during the sabbath hours. they are literally going to an event tomorrow during sabbath like what!! if they can make exceptions for themselves why is it a huge issue when it comes to me??

they make me feel like i’m not only disrespecting God but also disrespecting THEM for even considering going out on a friday night/saturday.

and it’s like bro how much longer do i have to put up with ts like seriously. its been this way my whole life and after getting a taste of college freedom I CAN’T continue to live like this. i’m miserable in this house. obviously can’t afford to move out in this economy and my parents still treat me like a damn child. they just can’t accept that i have free will. i literally don’t know what to do.

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u/slyscorpiogirl — 4 hours ago

Sabbath Breakers Club- Breaking Generational Cycles

I’ve long been a member of the Sabbath Breaker Club, but last week felt like a new milestone.

My daughter had her first middle school dance on Friday night. As I helped her pick a dress and get ready, I remembered my own teenage years. Unlike me at her age, my daughter is naturally slim, which reminded me how often I was told I was too fat for certain clothes. And how I must dress modestly but still somehow look attractive enough to catch a husband.

While helping her with makeup brought back memories of being told not to wear it because 'natural beauty was best.' I didn’t realize how repressed we were until I eventually left the sheltered SDA life.

Even after leaving, the lingering effects of purity culture continued to shape my life. I learned to present myself in ways that would please the male gaze without being seen as 'too provocative.' I grew up expected to be quiet, meek, and never challenge male authority.

As much as they tried to gaslight or redirect me, they could never tame my spirit. Something in me always stayed rebellious—always questioning and challenging them. Even my chosen profession wasn't traditional, and many people at church, including my mom, were trying to redirect me. I'm an engineer. The first in my family to choose not to be a nurse, teacher, or secretary. Thankfully, once I went to college, I was able to see things from a new perspective.

To this day, my mom still brings up something like equating wearing a necklace with not being "godly." Sometimes I still deal with body issues and try to figure out how to be comfortable in my own skin. The only thing I know for sure is that I won't pass those things on to the next generation.

Breaking generational cycles can look ordinary: a girl going to a dance, wearing makeup, laughing loudly with friends, and never feeling ashamed for existing. Real healing is empowering our children to embrace their full selves, free from the need to shrink to meet someone else’s idea of 'godly.'

How are you contributing to break the generational cycle?

u/Street_Aide_3106 — 8 hours ago

Egw hatred for kids Part #3

She says stuff like this, also says that children are "worthless" etc many times. Yet the Bible (and Jesus himself in it) says:

Matthew 18:3 "And he said, Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."

So children are controlled by Satan yet Jesus says to be like them? 😂

Luke 17:2 "It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble."

Jesus was definitely the type of person to tell people to keep having kids. (I mean God literally said to adam and eve to "multiply" in Genesis 1:28)

u/No_Resident_6643 — 7 hours ago

MORMON STORIES PODCAST, SDA part 2

Hi all!

The second episode/part 2 of MORMON STORIES on Adventism is out! Please give us a listen, share, comment, etc, if possible...Gotta RAISE AWARENESS of the Adventist church any way we can, all day everyday!

(Even if you don't want to watch either of the episodes, it would be super helpful for Mormon Stories if you would go give them a just a few minutes watch time, a couple "Likes" and possibly even a comment or two - the podcast and John Dehlin are being sued by the LDS church for using the word "Mormon"... Even though up until the lawsuit , they have always violently protested against the word being applied to them as they prefer " Church of jesus christ of latter day saints" 🙄🙄 But suddenly they are using their billions and billions of dollars to sue ex- and anti-mormon creators over the use of "mormon" and...that's infuriating cult-control behavior!)

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u/The_Glory_Whole — 11 hours ago

Sabbath Breakers Club Ordinance of Humility

Relax! I've read here numerous harrowing stories about communion Sabbaths and especially this foot washing rite. I certainly didn't conduct scholarly research, but a quick search-engine review of "ordinance of humility" pulled up a solid set of web resources apparently all centering SDA practices. So it's a cult phrase that might puzzle non-SDAs.

Ellen White used the phrase repeatedly, but I haven't been able to find out if she coined it. How it originated would be for me a fascinating history.

Because, though reared SDA, I was never baptized and my understanding was that participating was only for those baptized, I did it only once. That time I didn't calculate my exit and let myself be swept into the crowd. So I consider myself lucky that my taking to heart the rules and mostly following them protected me.

Those who maintain Christian belief but left Adventism, many Christian faiths practice versions of foot washing, but I'm pretty sure that if they aren't SDA spinoffs, you won't hear them call it the ordinance of humility. I'm curious if anyone's been to one of these. As part of Easter Week, Catholic and closer to Catholic churches have what they call Maundy Thursday.

So, everyone, relieved of "sabbath" obligations, let's celebrate the choices we make this weekend!

Having participated in Sabbath Breakers Club meetings for years now, I'm convinced that many r/exAdventist readers appreciate when new hosts step up to invite us infidels to the club, and I'm glad for that. Hosting, I believe, is quite simple, and our fine-print guidelines spell it out. Hope to see you here with a fresh take some week soon!

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Sabbath Breakers Club belongs to members of r/exAdventist on reddit. These guidelines are intended to suggest how anyone with posting privilege in this sub may start a week's Sabbath Breakers Club thread, not to control such postings.

• Keep it timely. If it's SDA-defined Sabbath somewhere on earth and no one has already started a Sabbath Breakers Club thread, you're clear to start one.

• Start Sabbath Breakers Club threads with that phrase "Sabbath Breakers Club." The reason for this is to make it easy to tell if no Sabbath Breakers Club thread has been posted for the present week. Just search "Sabbath Breakers Club" in r/exAdventist.

• You're welcome to use the image that looks like from an old woodcut of Moses smashing tables of stone with the Israelite throng celebrating their golden calf in the background, but you're not required to. Different ideas to launch the thread may invite still more, and more diverse, participation.

• Remember we're here to ease the church's attempts to control using Sabbath rules and guilt trips. Non-humiliating humor and empathy in your invitation can help set the tone, and enjoy exercising some spontaneous leadership in starting a Sabbath Breakers Club thread.

• Pass it on. Cutting and pasting this "fine print" can help future Sabbath Breakers Club hosts self-identify and feel empowered to step up and shine.

u/CycleOwn83 — 9 hours ago

SDA University vs Full Ride Scholarship

Context: I'm a high school senior in sda house. I have full tuition offers at some very small (800 enrollment) out of state sda colleges (parents would cover housing). I also have a full ride scholarship to a large (30,000 kids) out of state, state university. My parents strongly believe it is God's will to go to sda school.

I was planning to strike out on my own to go to the state school for a couple months. It represented freedom from religion and from my parents. However, I've recently had great communication breakthroughs with my parents about how I feel. We have gotten to the point where they understand my need for independence, and I no longer need to run away or lie.

For now, we have compromised on an sda school that is far away. I do think this would fulfill my need for freedom. Part of me still wants to go to the state school though, where I believe I would truly grow and flourish.

If I go to the sda school, I would likely lose my full ride to the state school and it is uncertain whether I could get another one.

I have full rides, so I technically can choose myself. However, because my parents say it is God's will for me to go, I don't have a good argument. I can either bring up points like the different environment and academic opportunities. However, my parents perceive that that means I value these things more than God's will. I could alternatively say I believe God's will is different. However, I can't back this up well. I can't say I have prayed more about this. (my parents have prayed for years for me to go sda uni while I haven't been praying much) I also can't win the theological debate (my dad has a masters in theology).

Does anyone have any advice or thoughts? I could not find many people on the subreddit with this situation. This is really hard for me.

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Emotional blackmail

Growing up as a pastor’s kid and golden child, my deconversion was rough. Things got bad enough with my dad that it turned physical at points. But over time, through a lot of fighting and conversations, my parents started to come around. They now accept my partner, know we’re moving in together and getting married without a conversion, and have said I’m still their child no matter what. I know how lucky I am compared to many of you guys. But the guilt trip doesn’t stop. “You’re breaking our hearts.” “You’re the reason mum cries herself to sleep.” This weekend I’m spending time with my partner instead of going to church and apparently that’s devastating to them too. I’m in my mid-20s, working 50-60 hour weeks, and when I get time off I want to rest and spend it with the people I love. I struggle to sit through 4 hours of church it genuinely triggers me. I try to do it once a month for them. I know they love me and I know they’re grieving, but I’m stuck in this loop of keep them happy or keep myself happy, and I can’t figure out how to stop feeling guilty for just living my life.

Just a rant

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u/Artsybrown — 1 day ago

“What made you leave the Seventh-day Adventist Church?”

Hello, I'm Brazilian, and Brazil is the country with the largest number of Seventh-day Adventists in the world. Here, it's common to find SDA members in almost every city or neighborhood. For a while, I really loved that. When I was still Adventist, I felt proud and like the happiest person in the world.

However, when I moved away from my mother and my church to attend college in another city, I started interacting more with different people and questioning my religion. What led me into Adventism were Ellen White’s teachings. I read some of her books, but whenever I noticed something strange and tried to think critically, I would tell myself, “Oh, it’s just the context. I shouldn’t question God’s prophet.”

But today, I feel like I was deceived and controlled for much of my life. Thankfully, I’m only 18 years old and managed to leave that religion in time. Many people spend years of their lives feeling guilty for not being the perfect person the church says we should be.

Today, I feel lighter, and I’m still a Christian.

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u/larinha2p — 1 day ago

Trump announces a national day of prayer and worship for the American Jewish community, and Adventists aren’t happy about it

Forced to watch sermons with my father, I wouldn’t have known this was even a thing if not for Adventist pastors spurging out that this is just another step to Sunday Law!

Never mind they have to twist themselves into a pretzel to reason how a Nation willing to put Jews on a pedestal like this will somehow turn back around and forbid the day of worship for those same Jews.

u/folklorebrony — 3 days ago

good friend that is reformed SDA

Like the title says, I have a good friend that is part of SDARM. I myself am Reformed and subscribe to covenant theology. We've had many conversations about the Sabbath, EGW, soul sleep, annihilationism, Investigative Judgment, and pretty much all unique SDA doctrine. My friend is such a staunch believer in all SDA doctrine and it absolutely blows my mind that he accepts EGW's credibility and writings without question.

I was wondering if this thread knows of any resources that I could recommend to him? Something that can gently push him in the right direction without being presumptuous?

He says salvation is by grace, through faith alone, but there are so many questionable secondary doctrines (not to mention modern prophetess) that I truly don't know if people of the SDA faith are Christians.

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u/SummerSaige — 2 days ago

Bad company corrupts good character

Before I say anything, I agree with the title above because it's true that you become who you surround yourself with. It is important to have company that makes you happy.

However, I think that SDAs (some or maybe most) take it to an extreme.

It's frustrating because imagine meeting genuinely good people in your life. Along the way, some individuals may broaden your perspective in life. But of course, once a minor change is noticed, everyone's saying you're long gone. Apparently, there is only one right way in life?

People outside the denomination can be good and even more of a blessing than those within. It's frustrating whenever "outsiders" are assumed to be bad influences of character and whatnot. No wonder many SDAs are socially stunted and inexperienced.

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u/Away-Document-153 — 3 days ago