r/ffxivdiscussion

With FFXIV on Switch 2 now, I’ve been thinking more about how awkward chat can be when playing on console/handheld. The software/regular keyboard just isn't doing it for me.

I keep thinking it would be nice if I could just talk into my phone, quickly review/edit the text, then send it into chat somehow.

Like imagine being able to say things like "Say in chat/party/fc <your message>" or "Wave/Jump/Sit" etc.. Maybe even use chat to execute macros or other in game commands.

Curious how other console players feel or are handling this.

Do you actually use chat much on console, or mostly avoid it?

Is a keyboard good enough, or is it still annoying depending on where/how you play?

Will Yoshi-P ever give us real voice-to-text!?

Would phone voice-to-text with a preview/edit step feel useful, or too awkward?

If something like this existed, would you use it?

Anyway FFXIV on Switch 2 has been awesome otherwise, see you all in Eorzea! :D

Edit: thank you everyone who took the time to comment, greatly appreciated!

I see people (and websites) saying that you should do odd-lvl dungeons for leveling, but why is this? I know that the cap dungeons (e.g. 50, 60) are more for tomestones than experience, but what's the difference between a lvl 42 dungeon and a lvl 45 one?

Okay, so I will start off that I have played other MMO’s in the past and have seen other communities turn into very negative spaces. I won’t make them but I’m sure you can guess which ones.

With Evercold coming out, I wanted to jump in and try FFXIV again. I got to Shadowbringers before and life happened so I had to stop; I come back after so long I decided to start over since I couldn’t remember much of the smaller details of sections.

From what I remember, the sentiment that FF has a very welcoming community was something I was basically yearning for at this point. But has something changed? Because there were so many moments that were player interactions that made me want to stop playing. Of course that’s a me and my own situation, most things are subjective. But the amount of people who don’t wait for cutscenes, try to pull your character from using their LB, or are rude in alliance raids in the messenger blew my mind. So I quit. Again.

Is this common? I guess I’m just surprised, I know there’s going to be this kind of thing in any online game, but for some reason I was under the impression that this community was not this way I particular (not completely obviously). Or at least enough to be put off wanting to continue.

Apologies for the more negative post, just genuinely wanted to see how others experience was. Hopefully better than mine.

So, I'm an anxious extrovert (horrible way to be I know) but I love chatting and making friends. I am no-lifeing this game rn because I am unemployed and usually would play most days anyways.

I joined an FC last week, very nice people. We have spoken on discord while doing an extreme together. However, they are busy people and are not online that much. There's at least one other person online each day, but the FC chat is dead unless I am asking questions/chatting. The FC has only 30 people, which I thought was a good thing, but it seems quiet.

I have met other people from a bigger FC (80) people and I am considering making the jump. But my main worry is maybe I won't like this next FC either? What if I want to go back to the old FC? I don't know. Has anybody else FC hopped and do people take offence?

I'm afraid of never finding a place to fit in if that makes sense. It's only been a week in this current and FC and I'm not sure if I'm making judgements too soon.

- How long do you wait before switching FCs?
- Do you say anything to anybody if it's a small FC?
- Are people generally accepting if trying out FCs?

Beastmaster waiting room, ETA 3 weeks...

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...and in my defence, I have been bashed a lot in-game which lead to this opinion.

So the post read.

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"Guys, the story just isn't that good. Every FF fan that stuck with it has done nothing but gas up the story online and overall pacing and journey is awful. Why did you stick with it for so long then? Integrity. I do actually like the gameplay and I won't bash something without giving something a fair shake.

Don't get me wrong, the highs are high and there are cool moments BUT the endless drivel and talking in circles, while getting critiqued for skipping is insufferable.

No it is not all fantastic, in fact if you take out a lot of the objectives that could EASILY be delegated to a damn messenger you'd lose 70% of the story. The word QUEST, has lost all meaning. Talk to someone, go over there and talk to someone else, then talk to someone else is not a QUEST. That could just be a literal cutscene not that I'm asking for more talking in circles obviously.

The game was at it's best when we were actually doing high stakes things. Fighting in an actual war, sieging the empire, taking on a dude and his castle who then transforms into a angel. I love high fantasy, I love the golden era of final fantasy, I love well crafted stories.

This is 20% killer stretched out over 80% filler. No twist has justified the awful pacing and experience getting here.

"Wait until you get to HW"
"Wait until you get past Stormblood"
"WAIT UNTIL SHADOWBRINGER"

I did it. I will be sticking around. I'm going to wait until I don't have to buy Dawntrail to play EW, finish that and consider the experience complete but I won't be walking away with "The story is so good!" thoughts. I think you should stop gassing the story up so much, the highs can be awesome but do not justify most of the journey.

I would HIGHLY recommend a "Catch up" track, that literally cuts all the pointless content out, hits the main story beats, all actually relevant bits of information, cuts out the "quests" that could be tied to messengers and let's people catch up without going through an existential crisis (not in a good way) if you care about bouncing back from this obvious dip and longevity.

I like the game, I genuinely enjoy the actual content, could not ever recommend it. It's almost cult like here."

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I was immediately met with an army of "this is bait", being called a contrarian and insulted etc and if anything couldn't have made my point stronger, despite being an opinion that is not liked but broke no rules, the thread was locked and removed. Admittedly because I'm guessing people did not like it very much but I did get one comment that legitimately restored my faith in the community a little bit. I won't include his name but he knows who he is and gave permission.

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"TL;DR -

No, you aren't missing anything.

The story really isn't that good, but that's purely because XIV was sold to you as a "Game with a great story" instead of "an MMORPG that actually cared about its writing". The game itself seems to have leaned into the former, so newcomers are pretty much only experiencing its story...which was never designed to be primarily leaned on for the experience.

To those who enjoyed XIV when it had more to offer than its MSQ and Glamour...its story was the best fucking thing ever. And it's tragic you will never experience that version of the game.

>No it is not all fantastic, in fact if you take out a lot of the objectives that could EASILY be delegated to a damn messenger you'd lose 70% of the story. The word QUEST, has lost all meaning. Talk to someone, go over there and talk to someone else, then talk to someone else is not a QUEST. That could just be a literal cutscene not that I'm asking for more talking in circles obviously.

Valid criticism, though one that the modern community won't agree with.

You gotta understand, when many of the vets experienced Heavensward, we were playing a VEEERRRY different version of XIV than the one you just experienced.

***MSQ was not the only thing we did....***it was actually the minority of what we did.

Hard to imagine now, but back in Heavensward you were actually level gated by MSQ quests because, surprise, the MSQ did not give you enough experience to automatically hit the requirement for the next chain of quests.

My time in Heavensward on launch, I remember actually running regular town quests, FATEs, figuring out how the fuck BRD was supposed to use Wanderer's Minuet, getting killed by regular ass mobs because I was squishy, ect. Hell, the Old Sharlyan Hinterlands area was a MASSIVE part of Heavensward, because it was the highest area in the game before you get to Azys La and there was no Lodestone. So people doing quests/fates there had no quick path towards objectives, and unlocking aether currents took a long time on foot.

This continued into Stormblood, but ended at Shadowbringers. Around ShB is where the game started legitimately just rowboating you through the MSQ for the most part....MSQ + whatever dungeon it unlocks was generally enough to push you towards the next chain of quests.

The problem is that XIV seems to be actively running from the idea that it is an MMORPG FIRST. The early ARR generation of players who championed this game's story was doing so while enjoying FFXIV PRIMARILY AS AN MMORPG.

The story was good.....for an MMORPG. It was never designed to be an "amazing story experience" while standing purely on the merits of the MSQ itself.

Recently though, the only people who can stomach actually getting past the MSQ to endgame are people who literally hate MMORPG gameplay.

They would rather run Solo and hate being stressed out by party mechanics.

>I like the game, I genuinely enjoy the actual content, could not ever recommend it. It's almost cult like here.

You're absolutely right.

I'm of the opinion that almost nobody who champions this game's core experience has ACTUALLY experienced it recently. I've failed to get so many friends into this game, friends that I know would have been just as hooked as me IF they had the opportunity to play the version of FFXIV that I did.

But that version died like 5 years ago, mainly from the changes that came with Shadowbringers.

The issue though is that to players like me who have been here since ARR, the core XIV experience's changes were so gradual that we didn't really realize that anything had fundamentally changed until the "Story" we were so engrossed in finally ended with Endwalker.

The funny part about XIV's community being a "Cult" is.....YoshiP actually saw this coming years ago. It's why he preemptively told us to "wait for 8.0" before 7.0 even dropped for those who had complaints about class diversity and gameplay decay.

Dawntrail is literally the absolute worst of ALL of XIV's modern core design problems, and this time without the wool that is the 10-year building narrative to cushion it from criticism from its core base. Hence the not-so-good user reviews on every platform.

So, no joke, the actual answer here is "Wait for 8.0", because this will definitively show if XIV is set on its current path, or if it has realized what has happened to it."

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I thought this reply/comment was incredibly well written, inciteful and explains a large disconnect between the experience newer players are going through and the experience the standing veterans had.

I feel the non-stop barrage of story with the vast amount of monotonous or downtime in-between the actually good bits makes it hard to call the story "Good". I feel "Good for a MMORPG" is pretty fair though I still disagree a little. What are your thoughts? Is the community cult like? Is any of this valid? Is the story actually as good as the community OFTEN makes out? Is this pure rubbish?

Personally, I enjoyed the Cloud of Darkness Chaotic Raid concept and, minus the multiple and somewhat bonkers body checks, thought it was great content with excellent rewards. Does anyone have thoughts on if we're getting another one in EverCold? If so, I assume it will likely be Ultima from the Ivalice Raids or Diablos from the Shadow of Mhach raids.

If the former, I imagine we will get more complicated combos of the other espers to make things interesting, and for Diablos (which still manages to kill parties in roulettes in the normal mode) a more complicated arena with more use of the adds and the door mechanics. I also imagine there will be at least one body check mechanic, though not multiple and probably not as strict.

But I am curious on what other people theories are on if we're even getting one and what the content might look like.

Returning to XIV after a 2 year hiatus. I know there have been some changes in the modding world (I used to use visual mods to make my character look cooler). What tools do people use these days? What are your go-to mods?

I made a UCOB static and we've been running for 3 weeks. First week up to end of P2, second week into P3, 3rd week now we are at heavensfall. This progress was made in spite of 3 people dropping to due motivation issues on the 2cd week and then 2 new recruits blocking me on discord and not telling me they did not plan to show up on the 3rd week.

Roster churn has been a major blockage to progress, but thus far the group has kept moving forward. I intend to clear with this group because I have become friends with the 5 others, and so far the people who have remained have been very consistent.

In the future though after UCOB I'm uncertain whether I want to make another static. I left party finder to avoid the disband after 3 pulls, waiting for hours to fill, and variance in group quality. But here I am dealing with a different form of variance: motivation issues and ghosting. With the people who have stayed though it has been great, that is why I'm wondering if statics only become worth it when it is populated by people who already know eachother? Because this experience has made me tired of lack of motivation and random discord blocking/ghosting.

In my case im not actually making an alt. I got through realm reborn, but long story short, i lost my data. Im thinking of buying the realm reborn skip as i don’t want to go through realm reborn again.

How do people view story skips in the context of creating a new character/alt?

Feel that when it comes to gposing there's an unwritten rule of using preset=bad, but don't know how true or little people care so would like to know about it from more experienced people

Edit: When mean preset I mean poses you download from sites

Let's say my main is in Aether, and I have a low level character in Primal.
Is it against ToS to give items/gear to a friend with my main, so they trade them to my low level alt in order to sell them in a DC where the items are better valued/in higher demand?
To be clear, I'm talking about a couple 10m+ gil items (not DOZENS of items) that my low level character would have no way of getting. Also both the Aether and Primal characters are of the same account.
I know my friend could steal them but that's not an issue.
Thanks

Hi everyone. I'm just wondering if there is anyone who has cleared DMU in PF and if so, what was your experience of P3 enrage specifically? I'm encountering a litany of issues in PF. The first one is that groups take forever to fill, and when they do, the group often doesn't reach BH. I'm consistently noticing players in PF groups who have either never cleared an Ultimate, or have only done UWU, which is often a red flag when evaluating player skill. I'm also seeing a lot of people with grey or green parses on Dawntrail high-end fights, which is also a red flag, particularly for DPS jobs.

I know these are common PF issues, but I genuinely feel like they are much more egregious in DMU PF than any other fight I've attempted in PF. FRU was a comparative breeze in PF. I personally feel completely confident in all mechs up to and including stompies, but I feel like I'm just bashing my head against a wall trying to force a P3 clear. I also joined a group a couple of days ago that was 7/8 static and was advertised as P3 enrage. The group was memeing on earlier mechs and didn't see BH once. I was the only one who wasn't messing up pre-BH. I feel cursed to never clear at this point. It's partly my fault as I didn't start prog until week 5. I thought it would be more active in PF and there would still be plenty of good players doing the fight, but that doesn't appear to be the case. I'm on the waiting list for Ulti Project but there's about 100 people in the queue for P3, P4 and P5 combined. I probably won't get picked before 8.0 comes out. Just don't know what to do at this point.

Love this. Love the jumping puzzle tower, love the giant pleasure cruise boat; seems this is the event with the highest effort put in each year. I'm not even remotely into RP, but there's something about the Moonfire Faire that makes me want to throw on some beachside glam and just hang out. What say you?

Personally, I'd like to see a rework on Grand Companies. The upper ranks being visible, but unavailable to obtain is always taunting me.

Also, I think they need to do something about guildhests. Maybe not scrap them since the exp bonus from challenge logs is always useful for leveling the jobs you don't like/care about.

As the title says, there's a lot of outfits, SFX, Emotes and more that people love using, and SE struggles to make new items for both rewards and mogstation due to manpower issues. What if they set up a system like that of warframe, in which hairs, outfits, emotes, job SFX and more could be made by the community, and officially placed onto the mogstation or possibly in game through an application process, much like their competitions already do.

The creators would receive a percentage of the profits, and the manpower is eased off for the team to work on whats in game more often, and console players can get more that PC players have access to.

If they done this well, could it make up for certain things being removed from the mog station and could it mean more rewards in game instead of the store?

hello, planning to get the XBOX ROG Ally ( not the x version) but before that i do have a couple questions;

- how is the loadtime (being rez, respawn rimer all that)
- is the rog ally compatible with xivalexander and nvidia filter/reshade?
- how’s the battery life

the only reasons im planning to buy a handheld is for xiv really, thanks in advance

hey! just reinstalled FFXIV, im a level 42 Dragoon but im now starting to struggle with both taking and dealing damage, is there a specific place i can go to for gear upgrades at this level? currently using a Mythril Lance but i feel like im dealing way to little damage.

any help and/or advice would be greatly appreciated! thanks :)