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Commercial gym trainer raised an eyebrow at GZCLP – anyone else experienced this?

Hey so after opening the post I’m starting I really started!
Hey everyone,
I recently started the GZCLP program at my gym. Today was my Deadlift day, which was the lift I was most nervous about because I knew my technique needed work because I’ve never done this before.
I asked one of the gym trainers for help with form. He started explaining the movement to me (pushing the hips back, driving with the glutes/hips rather than pulling with the lower back). So far, so good.
Then he asked me about the program I was running and why I’m doing deadlift as starter. I explained that it’s GZCLP, a popular linear progression program for beginners known for solid, proven results. He immediately looked skeptical and asked why a beginner like me is even doing deadlifts in the first place. (I’m not from The states so idk if gzclp is popular in my country) anyway….
When I mentioned the progression scheme—starting at 5x3+, switching to 6x2, 10x1, etc., when hitting a wall—he raised an eyebrow and asked why I’d follow something like this. I explained it's designed to build both strength and hypertrophy efficiently.
At that point, he just said "well, good luck with that," made a comment about not understanding trainers/creators who put out programs without personally coaching people on form (even though there's endless info online, nothing beats practicing in person), and walked off.
It felt pretty clear he was trying to push me away from this program.
Has anyone else run into gym trainers dismissing or raising an eyebrow at GZCLP? Is this just typical commercial gym trainer behavior?
Because I’m new so idk a lot of info so when a BuLk trainer comes to me and says you need to XYZ idk if I should believe
So far I like the gzclp program I’m on my first week yet and surprising myself with the weights I’m doing and I’m really happy!

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u/Rec0nq — 10 days ago
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Recurring lower back fatigue/pain while running GZCLP — should I deload, change my programming, or take time off? +Progress post.

Hey everyone, I’m looking for some advice from people who have dealt with recurring lower back issues while strength training.
I’m around 74 kg right now and have been running GZCLP since July. I’ve made some good progress, but my lower back has started bothering me again, and I’m trying to figure out whether my training volume, intensity, or recovery might be the problem.
Here’s the timeline:
October last year: First picture. I weighed around 65 kg and was doing deadlifts at 110 kg for 10 singles (10 sets of 1). October lifts kgs (1RM)
BP: 70
DL:120
Squat 113
OHP 50
December: After about three months of progress, I was pulling 130 kg for 10 singles. Unfortunately, my lower back started hurting quite badly afterward. I made the mistake of training again just two days later and doing more work that loaded my lower back, which made things significantly worse. I ended up having to take around 1.5 months off.
After returning: I gradually reintroduced deadlifts, but my lower back started getting tight and fatigued again.
April: I had surgery, which kept me out of the gym for another three weeks.
After returning from surgery: I resumed training, but my lower back occasionally started bothering me again. I suspect some of it may have been due to reintroducing loads that I wasn’t ready for.
July: I finally started feeling like I was getting back on track. I gradually resumed training, started using a lifting belt for all my exercises, and began running GZCLP.
Now, in October: My lifts have been progressing well, but the lower back issues seem to be coming back.
My progress from July to October, while cutting:
My body weight went from around 80 kg to 74 kg, and my estimated 1RMs improved across all four main lifts:
Deadlift: 145 kg → 155 kg
Bench press: 87 kg → 94 kg
Overhead press: 62 kg → 65 kg
Squat: 117 kg → 129 kg
I’m happy with the progress, especially considering that I’ve been losing weight. However, I’m concerned that I’m accumulating too much fatigue in my lower back.
My current diet and recovery:
I’ve been eating around 2,250 kcal/day for the past two months.
Before that, I spent a month eating around 2,550 kcal/day.
My estimated maintenance is approximately 2,850 kcal/day.
I’m still cutting, so I’ve been in a fairly substantial calorie deficit for a while.
My current problem:
My lower back has started feeling increasingly fatigued and tight, particularly around the muscles on either side of my spine. It feels somewhat like muscle soreness or accumulated fatigue rather than a sharp, localized pain, but it’s becoming more noticeable over time, even on rest days. I also notice it when sitting.
I don’t want to make the same mistake I made last year by pushing through the symptoms until things get significantly worse. At the same time, I really don’t want to abandon deadlifts or lose the progress I’ve made.
I’d appreciate advice on a few things:
Does this sound like accumulated fatigue from training, especially while cutting, or could it indicate something else?
Could running GZCLP while in a calorie deficit be contributing to the problem?
Would it make sense to take a week or two at maintenance calories and significantly reduce lower-back loading, then gradually reintroduce squats and deadlifts?
Should I change the way I program deadlifts and squats, particularly the frequency and T2 volume?
For those of you who have dealt with recurring lower back issues, what helped you return to heavy lifting without constantly having the problem come back?
I’m not looking for a diagnosis over the internet, but I’d really appreciate hearing about your experiences and what you would change about my training in this situation.
I love this program but I am Looking forward to switch to J&T 2.0. Thank you.

u/Gainsforbrainsz — 8 days ago
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Which GZCL program should I run?

I have been weightlifting for about 5-6 years. I am currently bulking right now and I am trying to put on more strength and size. right now, I can bench 250, OHP 150, squat around 280-285, and deadlift around 360. I have thought about using the GZCLP program but I am hearing that this program is more more novice lifters. I have also heard that it is a good program for people who are getting into the early intermediate phase. If this is not the best GZCL program for me to run based on my numbers then which program do you reccomend that I should try out instead?

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u/Mean_Release_143 — 11 days ago
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30yo beginner (170cm / 54kg) transitioning from Fitbod to GZCLP – Need some advice & validation

Hey everyone,
I'm a 30-year-old beginner male (170cm / 54kg) who just joined a gym. My main goal is to build strength, gain body mass, and build visible muscle.
I’ve only been to the gym 3 times so far using Fitbod's free trial, which just ended. While Fitbod was convenient because it told me exactly what to do and what weight to use, I don't want to pay for a subscription yet. Plus, I didn't like how it generated a completely different workout every time with around 9 exercises per session.
After doing some research I found boostcamp app with GZCLP programme. It seems way more structured, quality, and serious, which is why I’m looking at it on Boostcamp.
However, as a skinny beginner with not much strength yet, I have a few concerns:
Am I ready for GZCLP as a complete beginner? Since I'm starting out pretty light, I'm worried about jumping straight into free-weight compound lifts (Squat, Bench Press, Deadlift, OHP). For most of these, I might only be able to lift the empty 20kg bar (or even less). Is GZCLP still suitable for someone at my starting point?
Form & Intimidation: I'm not 100% confident in my technique yet for these major compound lifts, and free weights can be a bit intimidating compared to machines.
Workout Volume: Looking at the routine, it's basically 3 main exercises per session (T1, T2, T3). Coming from Fitbod's 9 exercises, this feels like very low volume. Is doing just 3 exercises really enough to grow, or does it feel short once you're actually doing it?
I’m attaching my current GZCLP routine setup below. Would love to hear your thoughts, advice for a skinny 30yo beginner starting with just the bar, and whether this is the right path.
Thanks in advance!
English is not my native language so I used Gemini to help me with grammar :)

My GZCLP Schedule (Exact App Setup):
Day 1
Squat (T1): 4 sets x 3 reps @ 17kg (85%) + 1 AMRAP set x 3+ reps @ 17kg (85%) 
Bench Press (T2): 3 sets x 10 reps @ 70% 
Lat Pulldown (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps 
Optional Squat Exercise (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps 
Optional Bench Exercise (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps 
Day 2
Overhead Press (T1): 4 sets x 3 reps @ 13kg (85%) + 1 AMRAP set x 3+ reps @ 13kg (85%) 
Deadlift (T2): 3 sets x 10 reps @ 70% 
Bent Over Row (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps 
Optional Shoulder Exercise (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps 
Optional Lower Exercise (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps 
Day 3
Bench Press (T1): 4 sets x 3 reps @ 17kg (85%) + 1 AMRAP set x 3+ reps @ 17kg (85%) 
Squat (T2): 3 sets x 10 reps @ 70% 
Lat Pulldown (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps 
Optional Bench Exercise (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps 
Optional Squat Exercise (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps 
Day 4
Deadlift (T1): 4 sets x 3 reps @ 17kg (85%) + 1 AMRAP set x 3+ reps @ 17kg (85%) 
Overhead Press (T2): 3 sets x 10 reps @ 70% 
Bent Over Row (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps 
Optional Lower Exercise (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps 
Optional Shoulder Exercise (T3): 2 sets x 15 reps + 1 AMRAP set x 15+ reps

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u/Rec0nq — 13 days ago
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How long to run GZCLP for and what have people followed after?

I haven't worked out in about 6 years and also had a surgery 3.5 months ago so I was very weak and lost any progress I did in the past when I used to train. I started on a variation of GZCLP and I am in week 6th, I am making great strength progress, and actually my T1 lifts became easier rather than more difficult as I progress, for example my last bench T1 AMRAP set was 11reps. But I think this is expected because of the muscle memory kicking in. But this will come to an end soon probably when I get closer to my strength levels from 6 years ago.

I was thinking to run GZCLP for 2 cycles (a cycle being when all my T1 lifts have gone through all three stages of progression) since everywhere I am reading this is considered more of a beginner program.

I was also wondering what program would be good to follow after this, my primary goal is hypertrophy. Looking for experiences from people who moved from GZCL to a next stage program.

As a note, even though I trained before, when I was younger, I never trained following a program, but following a bro-split because that is what everybody at the gym I started at was doing and before I lifted more for recreational purposes, though I pushed myself and made some progress but was never super strong.

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u/EngineeringKind3960 — 11 days ago
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How is my routine and what can be improved about it?

I am using the GZCLP program. I am running a four day upper/lower split. Belwo I wrote down a selection of exercises to do. When I started this routine I feel like I was doing too much volume. I had to take some exercises out and modify my routine. Below I wrote down a selection of exercises for me to do on each day.

Upper Body Day 1 

T1

  • Ben Press 5x3

 

T2 

  •  Pull Ups 3x8 
  • Chest Dips 3x10

T3 

  • Lat Pulldowns 3x12-15 
  • Lateral Raises 3x12-15 
  • Bicep Curls 3x12-15 
  • Tricep Cable Extensions 3x12-15

 

Lower Body Day 1 

T1 

  • Deadlift 5x3

T2 

  • Front Squat 3x10 
  • Barbell Hip Thrusts 3x10

T3 

  • Single leg leg extensions 3x15 Or Leg Press 3x15 
  • Decline Sit Ups 3x15

Upper Body Day 2 

T1 

  • OHP 5x3

T2 

  • Pull Up 3x8 
  • Incline Barbell Bench Press 3x10

 

T3 

  • Dumbbell Row 3x12-15
  • Rear Delt Flies 3x12-15
  • Hammer Curls 3x15 
  • Skull Crushers 3x15

 

Lower Body Day 2 

T1

  • Low Bar Squat 5x3

T2 

  • Front Squat 3x10 
  • RDL 3x10

 

T3 

  • Leg Extensions 3x15 
  • Seated Leg Curls 3x15 
  • Cable Crunches 3x15

Is this a good routine for this program? What could be imrpoved about it?

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u/Mean_Release_143 — 11 days ago