r/islam_ahmadiyya

When he speaks he speaks with lack of understanding enthusiasm or conviction. His eyes are trying to hide like he doesn’t want to see you eye to eye because he fears people will see he’s hiding something. Anyone else noticed that? Idk if it was always like that but these days he seems like he really doesnt want to do it anymore. N seem more n more guilty like he knows its all a sham and hes getting older and maybe fearing the doj!

Something I keep wondering about is why basically nothing the Jamaat puts out ever goes viral.

That is how social media works. Someone says something funny, smart or actually meaningful, people share it, the clip takes off and suddenly millions of people have seen it.

Religious content does this all the time.

Bryce Crawford became huge through Christian content. Father David Michael Moses has had videos with millions of views and more than a million followers on Instagram. He has even said that atheists share his videos. Mufti Menk was already a known Islamic scholar, but social media made him known to a much bigger international audience.
So clearly people are interested in religion, spirituality and life advice.

Where is the Ahmadiyya version of this?

KM5 has been Khalifa for more than 20 years. There are endless sermons, speeches, clips, MTA programmes, translations and social media accounts. The Jamaat has studios, editors, professional production and an international organisation promoting him.

And still, where is the video that actually got out of the Ahmadiyya bubble?

Where are the millions of random people saying, damn, this guy actually has something to say?

I honestly cannot think of one.

That is pretty weird for a community that keeps saying humanity desperately needs its message and that the world is waiting for the Promised Messiah.
Maybe people just are not that interested.

And I think there is an even simpler problem. KM5 is not charismatic. He is a pretty poor speaker. He does not come across as especially sharp or original. There is just not much there that makes you want to keep listening.
And it is not because nobody gives him a platform. He has MTA, professional production teams and an entire international organisation constantly promoting what he says.

He has all of that and people still are not watching.
That is the thing about social media. You can tell your own members over and over again how important someone is. You cannot make random people care.

Even Ahmadis themselves do not seem particularly interested in a lot of this content. Just look at the engagement and compare it with the huge membership numbers the Jamaat has claimed over the years. Whatever you think the real number is, you would expect a supposedly global and rapidly growing religious movement to get a lot more people watching its own Khalifa.

At some point you have to ask if the problem is really the marketing or if people simply do not find the content that interesting.

The same thing bothers me about KM5 constantly giving speeches about world peace.
He keeps appealing to presidents, prime ministers and other political leaders. Be just. Stop fighting. Avoid war. Think about humanity.

Okay, but what is that actually supposed to achieve?

Look at the world. A lot of people in power are hardly examples of morality. Politics is full of corruption, ego, self interest and manipulation. If political leaders could simply be trusted to act according to moral principles, we would not be in half the mess we are in.

So why keep talking to the people at the top and asking them to behave better?
That is not how democracy is supposed to work. You do not find a good king and hope he develops a conscience. You limit power and you make leaders answer to the people.

Why not talk to ordinary people?

Tell people to defend democracy. Organise. Protest peacefully. Hold governments accountable. Vote bad leaders out. Push back when governments are taking their countries in the wrong direction.
But instead it always seems to come back to the same idea. Talk to the ruler and hope the ruler fixes things.

Maybe that is part of the bigger problem.

The Jamaat keeps telling itself that the world needs to hear its message. We live in a time where some guy with a phone can say something people connect with and millions of people will hear it.
So where is the Jamaat?

If the world is really waiting for what you have to say, why does everyone keep scrolling?

I have watched countless videos of Adnan Rashid and bro Imtiaz, and i learned a lot, they spoke kindly and with facts something i think lacks in the jamat a lot, there are no sources or facts its all stories someone created. Actually when i was doing my own research on MGA and went to the jamat for answers they led me to watch the jamat videos that didnt give me any answers whatsoever, same all agenda based BS. But Adnan and Imtiaz talked from MgA’s books and some of the information was very eye opening and straight up shocking.

But now I wonder what is their motive? I understand its to preserve Khatam e nabuwat. But what about the misconceptions in the broader muslim ummah and the jahalat we see in molvies and some other “islamic scholars” why are they onky targeting just one very insignificant jamat.

They keep doing these debates with the sameeeee topic over n over again that doesnt lead anywhere. Its now getting very redundant and i feel like all their videos have the same topic over n over again.

Hi, recently I made a post on this subreddit and browsed around a bit, and it seems like a lot of the negative things about Ahmadiyya are very similar to Sunni Islam.

So I wanted to ask ex-Muslims who are ex-Ahmadis:

Why did you leave? Were there theological problems that are exclusive to Ahmadiyya, or were they things that apply to Islam as a whole?

Or was it the caliphate?

Hi! For context, I am not an Ahmadi. I am, however, a questioning Sunni Muslim, and I wanted to know:

How does the caliphate work in Ahmadiyya, considering they have no political power? Are they essentially powerless figureheads?

Also, are they chosen by God (similar to the divine right of kings)

Who elects the Khalifa, and are women included ?