r/makeafighter

Super Smash Bros. is a 1999 game developed by HAL Laboratory and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo 64. It is the first game in the Super Smash Bros. series and was first released in Japan on January 21, 1999. The game featured an all-star lineup of 12 of Nintendo’s characters, defining a whole series of future installments to come.

But what if had released with 24 characters instead of 12? A perfect doubled dozen of Nintendo’s finest characters in sorta “what-if?” roster.

Today, I bring you my doubled Super Smash Bros. 64 roster. I’ve spent quite a bit of time researching various official and fan sources, topics, and discussions to come to my final decisions. Overall, I think I’ve made a pretty solid roster, but that’s for all of you to decide.

The only rules I’ve set are really basic ;
- No characters created after 1998.
- No Third Party Characters.
(I kinda broke the last rule with a certain character but also kinda not?)

The Characters :

Bowser, King Dedede, Mewtwo, Ganondorf
Into the first batch of characters, we have 4 of Nintendo’s villains for their biggest franchises. Bowser, Dedede, and Mewtwo were all originally planned to be apart of the original 64 roster, and along with Ganondorf, were some of the most popular picks for the offfical Smash 2 Poll. All have also appeared in the following two Smash Bros. rosters.
Peach, Diddy Kong, Zelda, Falco
Next up, we have the most deserving supporting characters (considering the amount spots we have) for the roster. Each of these characters had a couple of votes in the Smash 2 Poll and seem like the most realistic picks alongside the first batch.
Marth, Pit, Little Mac, Banjo & Kazooie
And for the final group of newcomers, we have characters from series not represented with playable fighters on the original roster. Marth was the fourth of the four originally planned characters for Smash 64’s roster. Pit and Little Mac are two classic Nintendo characters that just feel like the most necessary inclusions to help flesh out the crossover aspect for this supposed doubled first entry. Finally, Banjo & Kazooie; the only character I had trouble really deciding if I want them on the roster due to being third party. But alas, they were technically second party during the time of Smash 64’s release, so they can fit right in with the rest of the roster as the first (currently) third party.

That’s all I’ve got for the first part of my reworked Doubled Roster series, where I take each Super Smash Bros. roster and double the amount of characters, taking from the last roster I had and building a what-if sorta series. I was extremely dissatisfied with a lot of decisions I made in my series from nearly a year ago, causing me to never finish the series after my WiiU/3DS roster. But since it’s been in the back of my mind since, I’ve decided to remake it. Be on the lookout for my Melee roster next.

Okay for clarification this is not the next installment in my series inspired u/Jayasakura19 (that the pair of us are kind of doing in sync with each other) but rather a series that I guess can run along side both being inspired by David V Kimbell's series of videos on YouTube Covering a Blessed Timeline.

So how I did this was what Arcade Smash Melee was actually the first game in the series but instead of putting it out in 2001 I pushed to 2004 hench why I choose a lot of characters who might've been around at this time if you want to make some corrections please let me know

To be completely frank, narrowing it down to 75 was HARD considering the newcomers that are so popular. Also, if some of the choices seem odd, I believe that Smash's greatest strength is making unknowns known, so that's why there's some unusual picks here.

It makes no sense. Seriously if you wanna put RWBY in a fighting game, just play BBTAG or make a RWBY fighting game roster.

Edit: Yes I did realize that technically Viz Media holds the rights now, but Warner Bros held the rights for like six whole years, so it still counts.

Made another one of these, and this time everyone from Ultimate is back, along with 47 newcomers.

Please feel free to leave your thoughts below!

Newcomers list for those who do not know:

- King Boo (Luigi's Mansion)
- Ashley (Warioware)
- Impa (Zelda)
- Bandana Dee (Kirby)
- Akari/Rei (Pokemon Legends Arceus)
- Missingno (Pokemon)
- Ivy (Fire Emblem Engage)
- Tom Nook (Animal Crossing)
- DJ Octavio (Splatoon)
- Muddy Mole (Mole Mania)
- Karate Joe (Rhythm Heaven)
- Protagonist (Astral Chain)
- Drag x Driver (Drag X Drive)
- Dr. Eggman (Sonic The Hedgehog)
- Metal Sonic (Sonic The Hedgehog) [Echo of Sonic]
- The Hunter (Monster Hunter)

The traditional comes from the fact this will not play like a platform fighter, and instead like a 1v1 fighting game, with reworked movesets for the characters that turn their basics into motion inputs, streamline the roster a bit, use the character’s actual personalities, and even an arcade mode with specific endings for each character showcasing their personalities, goals, and desires.

If you have any questions about this roster feel free to ask, I'll gladly answer them

Here's the roster if you don't recognize some of the characters:

The Ultimates:
Spider-Man
Captain America
Iron Lad (Tony Stark)
Doom (Reed Richards)
Black Panther (T’Challa)
Thor
She-Hulk (Lejori Zakaria)
Wolverine
Armor
America Chavez
Ant-Man & the Wasp
Moon Knight
Mr. Negative
Omega Red
The Maker

The Absolutes:
Batman
Superman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern (Jo Mullein)
Flash (Wally West)
Martian Manhunter
Catwoman
Robin (Dick Grayson)
Green Arrow
Tomar-Re
Sandman (Wesley Dodds)
Hawkman
Bane
Zatanna
Darkseid

120 Playable Characters (78 Veterans + 42 Newcomers)

Some of the roster is predictions (Example; Ring Fit Trainee, Crash, and Kris), others are characters I personally want in (Example; Metal Sonic/Knuckles, Kamek, Blinky, and Impostor).

Tried to keep the cuts to a minimum (Mii Sword/Gunner aren't cut and share a slot with Mii Brawler)

A few moveset explanations;

Veterans; Everyone would mostly receive additional touch ups/quality of life changes, however some characters would have noticeable changes. Dr. Mario, Peach, Falco, Link, Dark Samus, Ken, and Richter would all be given substantial changes to differentiate them from their original/clone versions. Other characters would receive major reworks, including some of the formerly mentioned ones, but Ganondorf and Sonic would be remade from the ground up.

Newcomers;

Waluigi would use his tennis racket for certain moves, but his moveset would not entirely rely on spin-off titles like how most fans usually depict him.

Alph; Would use rock Pikmin to differentiate him from Olimar.

Metal Sonic/Shadow; both would have entirely unique movesets. It's actually so crazy how many fan rosters depict one of the two as Echo fighters, when there are literally moveset for fangames/mods where they play nothing like Sonic.

Peppino; (TL;DR Peppino is basically if Wario's moveset was changed to represent Wario Land) the easiest way I can sum Peppino up is how most fan mods change Wario's moveset to Wario Land. I like Wario Land as a series but it unfortunately being on an indefinite hiatus kinda makes it make less sense whenever Wario (in fan games/mods) represent Land instead of Ware, especially since Ware still receives games more consistently.