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AI "beatmakers" selling suno beats are pissing me off

AI "beatmakers" selling suno beats are pissing me off

Rant incoming, sorry in advance:

I know, this is a kind of annoying topic and everyone is getting more and more tired discussing AI.

However, I feel like I've come to a point where it just pisses me off. I always loved making beats, made around 10 to 15 beats a month, sometime more, sometimes less, some for my friends, others I sold online (beatstars, airbit etc).

I mean, it's no secret that the "beat-game" is really over-saturated and I was fine with just doing it for my personal enjoyment more and more. After a day of work, I sat done, sampled some tracks, made some beats, ableton, mpc, some thai food, good times.

Things change and I get that.

However, it pisses me off, how all these AI models were trained by the music that "we artists" provided, without being asked a single time. And now there's producers everywhere flooding youtube with generic and always the same sounding type beats. If they'd make it clear that they used suno, I'd be fine with it. But just putting those beats on youtube and beatstars and selling them, it just pisses me off.

I mean, it's part of the competition to make beats that knock. It's part of the game to have some productive rivalry, to compete with each other, but damn, not like this.

Those guys aren't producers. They aren't beatmakers. They do it for the money only, simple as that.

They mostly never sell stems, as the can't provide stems (without glitchy artifacts at least).
You can here it in the higher frequencies, in the arrangement, in the sometimes weird and glitchy cuts, drum breaks and - fills and voice chops.

Here's 2 accounts leading to the same store:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk4ZwWe2sEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAbyCQyQcNI

Others I found within that boom bap niche:

Tape Villain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arDz_GMxZcQ

Dusty Villain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPYomjtUu5A

Rival Chris: This is another guy, it's very obvious here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO4jjNjW-bY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBkSxKwzOKc

This guys provides them free to use at least:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRjakqO1SkE

I'd like to know what you think about that? Maybe you're fine with it? Maybe you're using suno yourself? Maybe it also pisses you off?

u/Careless-Ride5224 — 14 hours ago

made a tool so I'd stop naming beats "untitled.wav"

I'm terrible at choosing names for my beats, so I made a little generator to help with that, and mostly just for fun.

I dug through Dilla, Madlib, Nujabes and Pete Rock tracklists, and built the generator around the patterns each of them uses, not the actual titles. You can pick one beatmaker or combine a couple for something that leans on both.

Never owned an SP1200 in my life but I built the whole interface around one anyway, it's just the machine that pops in my head first whenever I think about beatmaking, so it felt right.

Also hid a little secret in there if you poke around enough.

https://preview.redd.it/i17lngsqcibh1.png?width=1192&format=png&auto=webp&s=0bc9c44cc0f9ea55a715bb7a96402de793b5cb48

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u/Reasonable_Abies6167 — 8 hours ago

I want to make a song for Tour de France, since there are none from my country.

I have the text and the beat, but I can’t sing and I don’t have equipment. Is it possible for me to record my vocals and get an AI to change my voice to s better one, enhance the recording, put on autotune and make it sound professional?

I don’t have any money…

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u/alfredo_da_kogekone — 8 hours ago

Looking for honest feedback on my English pronunciation as a Korean rapper

I'm a Korean rapper working on a song with entirely English lyrics, and I'm looking for honest feedback on my English pronunciation.

My main question is whether my accent is distracting or unpleasant to listen to, or if it simply sounds like a non-native accent that still works well in music.

If anyone is willing to help, send me a DM and I'll send you the demo along with the lyrics.

I'd really appreciate honest feedback, whether it's positive or negative. Thanks!

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u/Historical-Tone-8567 — 6 hours ago

Music Producers - What Are You Struggling With Right Now?

As the title says (or asks rather).

Let's see where we can all help one another out.

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u/DiyMusicBiz — 18 hours ago
▲ 11 r/makinghiphop+1 crossposts

Have 12 hours booked at Paramount Studios (LA) – looking for an alternative/rage/moshpit vocalist to track. Studio cost is fully covered!

DM To Get the reference track

July 22nd

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u/Human-Lemon-47 — 1 day ago

Set my song to -14 lufs made it sound very different

So I made my master and sticked loudness meter on it and set it so it stays at -14 lufs, but after the song was uploaded it sounded a lot different and was very tinny/lots of high end frequencies, when it was perfectly balanced in it's .wav form. Is the setting to -14 a lie?

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u/llurky_ — 1 day ago

[Freestyle Game] WORDJUMP — 4 words, 4 bars, top vote WINS!

[Freestyle Game] WORDJUMP — 4 words, 4 bars, top vote WINS

WORDJUMP CHALLENGE: Write 4 bars using all the key words ( 1 key word per bar.) AND you need to be relevant to the key topic.

🗝️ KEY WORDS: WHISKEY / GOLD / CHAMPIONSHIP / PASSPORT
🎯 KEY TOPIC: you just got your first million dollar deal but now your friends envy you.

TOP VOTED winner gets added to The Hall of Fame™ on my Youtube channel.

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u/FreestyleArcade — 2 days ago
▲ 3 r/makinghiphop+1 crossposts

Have 12 hours booked at Paramount Studios (LA) – looking for an alternative/rage/moshpit vocalist to track. Studio cost is fully covered."

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u/Human-Lemon-47 — 1 day ago

[lyrics] (just some brain juice)

wreck with self

Got this heart so it's gone be me to break itself

Seekin rest interested in getting dressed distressed can do me some deep rest but depressed

Panic manically stated d-dated to write my own fate with all this hate

Ain't reppin for no fame and no tits

school her into molecular bits

Eyes weary like resented

experimented on drugs to vent

I went from some

Sense to cents

Henceforth is the price worth

Baskin on maskin

a lyrical cut on my wounds nursed,

And I flow this blow burst my verse

Cursed I think second thoughts first

Thinkin deeper the reaper's weepin

keepin me from leapin

Deep in the strangest relative exchanges

Eerie cuz I can be mysterious

Serious stayin insidious

hideous when I pimp

These words so simple

Broken inside but feelin the healin

Nah man ian snakin fakin the aching

Just slittin a neck in from breakin

Making a killin, stealin a feel,

Mentally ill in this skill

I pop hip hop like a pill

So it's gone blow when I flow

Like illest to illicit, realistically

Syllabilistically slit a split to a spit

Hocus pocus to focus,

My thots flow set itself to blow cuz

Ian gotta be a virgin just to sound the tightest and between me and y'all

This is the slightest difference

You can't even be friends with the demon in me that butcher verses like a hell bound right

Every time I rap why do I sound tight

Cuz I'm just too early obsessed thinkin words that sounds similarly curved curly to make em think even your intentions to slaughter sound girly

On shiftin perspectives like shop liftin

Pathologically truth spillin the pills in for you rumpelstilskins

food to lactate

Talk bout some dope in you like you lacked it

You was so brown but I blacked it

Manipulates so many bullets and pull it like I clacked it

Is like my conscience like a person at the junction watch the body malfunction

Cuz I'm impaired like ian cared

Double dared bare and scared

Distressed with no rest

puppet under the control of the disease here

So I foam words and it turns out to be sickest in a steer

Neurologically driven mad to tears

Ian never grown up in years is in

I listen only to see who's dissin

Invincible in this old school new school shit I'm the principal

Failure comes in with a price tag but I cant afford it

my jam wasn't recorded although my brain was distorted so I tried to word it

This dream was all that I had like a weapon cuz of if I got a weapon,

Words can happen.

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u/ayashi_87 — 1 day ago

I have no idea how to write lyrics, no matter what i do i just cant for the life of me come up with anything.

I can't come up with a topic, cant come up with any bars or verses or anything, i cant freestyle either, and i cant punch in, i genuinely cant come up with any lyrics at all and im going to give up trying to make music because I can't come up with a single song.

Also the type of music i want to make is like lil peep's more traditional rap songs, whatever that genre is called. examples of songs like that is white tee by lil peep.

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u/BigAggressive3910 — 2 days ago

Question about clearing samples

DistroKid is saying that one of the songs I’m uploading to streaming services, needs to clear sampling and it’s referencing a song on Spotify that has little play and was uploaded 2 years ago. This artist that published the song looks to have bought the beat from the same distributor as I did from BeatStars but published the song not crediting the producer or something because why would DistroKid be alarmed that I’m stealing someone’s else’s work if I have credited the beat maker in my song?

Do I have to credit the person who uploaded their song using the same beat?

I’m very confused, any feedback would be greatly appreciated 🫡

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u/BigolBlackguy — 1 day ago
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Korean rapper here — could anyone give me honest feedback on my English pronunciation?

I'm a Korean rapper, and I have a demo song in English that I'd like to get some feedback on.

I'm not trying to sound like a native speaker, but I'm curious how my pronunciation comes across to native English speakers. Does it sound unnatural or distracting? Or does it sound fairly normal, just with a foreign accent?

I don't really want to post the demo publicly, so if you're willing to help, please send me a DM, and I'll send it over.

I'd really appreciate any honest feedback. Thanks!

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u/Historical-Tone-8567 — 2 days ago

[FREESTYLE FRIDAY] Post your beats to be rapped on or spit some freestyles. READ THE TEXT BODY FOR PARTICIPATION GUIDELINES

Welcome to Freestyle Friday! If you're a producer - feel free to donate a beat down below in reply to the beat submissions comment. If you're a rapper - scroll down to choose a beat, then record a freestyle over it. You can post whenever, just have fun!

Beats go under the "beats" comment; freestyles go under the "freestyles" comment.

Check out previous Freestyle Friday threads.

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u/AutoModerator — 3 days ago

フリーのビート探してます!

こんにちは!ラップ初めて一日目のNo capです。名前ダサいのは知ってます。誰か無料でビートくださいとりあえずラップがしたいです。機材は何もそろってないです。いい名前があったらだれかつけてくださいよかったらつけます。ドリルとか挑戦してみたいですね。

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u/Equivalent-Taste-703 — 2 days ago

Looking for vocalists

Looking for vocalists (of any language) to feature in an album I’m working on and also the chance to feature in any upcoming projects.
I’m a new independent artist working with a few others already to help them release their first projects.
Just trying to spread the good vibes and make some good music with people!
I can’t offer any upfront pay but royalties will be split evenly with everyone who works on the track.
Dm me if interested :)

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u/SamiraiBeats — 1 day ago

Music mixed with trackouts vs 2-track instrumentals

As an artist currently finalizing a project that's being mixed entirely using 2 track instrumentals, I'm curious to hear what u all think on this.

I understand that mixing with trackouts is ideal and that mixing with 2-tracks results in overall quality being sacraficed a bit but i'm also of the belief that most fans(especially hip-hop fans in this day and age) don't really care for the most part as long as the music is at least listenable. Trackouts can be quite expensive and even sometimes not always available.

How much modern hip hop do u all think is being mixed with just the 2-track file instead of trackouts? And overall do you think music being mixed with trackouts makes that huge of a difference to the average listener?

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u/hurryupandbuyplease — 2 days ago

フリービートください

どうもラップ一日目のno capです。とりあえずラップしたい。ラップのコツなどあったら教えてください。発音や音のノリ方やその他もろもろ。絶対でかくなる!そのためのスタートは ラップスタア優勝、2027から高校一年生として出ます。ぜひ応援よろしくお願いします。どのラッパーを聞くといいかなどでもいいのでアドバイスやコツを教えてください。

Hey, I'm "No Cap," and today is Day 1 of my rapping journey. I just really want to rap. Please let me know if you have any tips—things like pronunciation, how to catch the groove, and so on. I’m definitely going to make it big! My starting point for that is winning *Rap Star*; I’ll be entering the competition as a first-year high school student in 2027. I’d really appreciate your support. Please share any advice or pointers—even just recommendations on which rappers I should listen to.

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u/Equivalent-Taste-703 — 2 days ago

Looking for rappers/producers to work with!

Hello everyone, my name is Veil. I’m a rapper. I have a couple years of experience with recording, rapping, mixing, and engineering under a different artist name, but have since decided after hiatus to launch a new project. I’m looking for other rappers/producers who are down to work and make some music together. I’d like to take this project very seriously. If you’d like to hear what my old catalog sounds like and some of the stuff I’m working on now with my new project leave a comment or shoot me a DM!

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u/officialveilmusic — 2 days ago