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5-MAPB/Adderall cross tolerance?

Hello, soon I will be trying 5mapb for the first time (75mg Xum Plur tabs). I've been scouring reddit and google for information regarding cross tolerance/interactions/potential risks between 5mapb and Adderall, but haven't found anything that seemed conclusive or specific enough for me to make any determinations.

I'm prescribed 10mg XR & 10mg IR of Adderall per day for inattentive ADHD, though I almost always take one or the other per day instead of both.

I do not plan on taking any Adderall on the day I try the Plur tabs, I want to evaluate them completely on their own. I'm curious about their interactions for 2 reasons:

1- I'm actually hoping that there is a bit of cross tolerance to minimize the possibility or severity of negative side effects on the 5mapb come up. (I seem to be prone to anxiety and rough come ups)

2- I'd be lying if I said I wasn't curious about experimenting with them together to see how the experience is effected, assuming the trial of 5mapb goes well and I decide to try it again in the future.

From my layman's perspective, it seems fair to reason that since MDMA and amphetamines can be mixed reasonably safely (in appropriate doses) then 5mapb and Adderall would share similar interactions and safety guidelines?

To be clear: I will absolutely not be blindly or recklessly experimenting; for all I know, after trying 5mapb on it's own, I may decide it's not for me and never even try it again. I'm simply thinking out loud and seeking more informed input.

With the main point of this post out of the way, I'll ramble about my background if anyone feels like reading it lol - I'm 34 years old, 6 feet tall, 170lbs. In my late teens I used DXM pretty regularly (average 3 times per month, 300mg to 600mg per dose, with occasional higher doses). I was only able to do that for about a year and half before the experience lost it's magic, and my body seemingly started to reject the substance. In the early days, I experienced absolutely zero negative side effects - I was light as feather on the come up. Towards the end, I grew progressively more heavy and was experiencing diminished returns on the experience itself. I took this as my cue to move on from DXM. To this day, I avoid medications containing DXM because I still feel sick just thinking about it.

After DXM, in my early 20s I used LSD (my favorite) several times, MDMA a handful of times, and mushrooms a handful of times. I didn't have any negative experiences with any of these substances. But by my late 20s, with age, less free time, more mental and emotional baggage, I just naturally grew apart from the desire (and access) to use psychedelics, or even smoke weed.

Now in my 30's, I'm curious about exploring altered states of consciousness again. I've used Road Trip gummies a handful of times at low to moderate doses with no negative effects aside from light anxiety on the come up. I do experience severe anxiety, nausea, and vomiting from edible THC products though. So despite my reemerging curiosity, I'm still a bit hesitant to try new things.

The handful of times I tried MDMA, it was hands down the most powerful anti-anxiety I've ever experienced. I'm hoping 5mapb will be as gentle and welcoming as those experiences. In the event I'm one of the people who does experience the rough come up, it definitely won't be my first rodeo lol - I know to remain calm and not try to fight the ocean. With continued research and careful planning, hopefully I can avoid that altogether though, as it is a major road block which deters me from seeking out new psychedelic experiences.

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u/JoshK92 — 2 hours ago

Best 4- analog product recommendation for listening to music?

Have experience with purple gummies; good for music, unsure which analog it is tho (does anyone know lmfao) and looking to find a new product if it has a better auditory effect

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u/Working-Kale-970 — 11 hours ago
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PRODUCT REVIEW (FIRE 🔥 ALERT): XÜM Beyond Shrooms Extract Tablets (3mg/12mg total)

PRODUCT REVIEW (FIRE 🔥 ALERT): XÜM Beyond Shrooms Extract Tablets (3mg/12mg total)

https://greatcbdshop.com/product/xum-beyond-shrooms-extract-tablets/

Hello GCBD family, today I bring a really good review on these xum tabs. To preface, I've been a consumer of psychedelics since my teen years, and after some crazy ups and not-too-bad downs concerning experiences, I feel that I can offer some good insight into how these feel.

The product itself offers a total of 12mg metocin, which they say are designed to mimic shrooms without any guessing, any worries of the consistency of the trip that can be had. I will say personally that these are quite true to the dosage. At $20 for the starter pack, you're looking at $5 a trip. In most situations, I'd call this expensive, but in this context, I think the money can go a long way for the consumer who is looking for transparent, clear effects.

Now, I would not say these are 1:1 with shrooms. I had 4-ho-met before, so I was familiar with what to expect, but for those who've never had it before, but had shrooms prior? This could lack the deep, introspective headspace that people like to get from shrooms. For me, while it is possible to go deep into the self with these, most of the time it's just fun and lighthearted. And these xum tablets proved to be the same. They are light on the mind, yet even at 2 servings I had visuals. Nothing full blown or geometric, but the world was brighter, and objects had some chromatic aberration to it, giving nearly everything a sort of bright, shiny rainbow aura. This made everything feel new, though many psychedelics in general can cause this feeling.

Another thing I like with 4-ho-met is that it offers a nice, stoney body high to it as well. I felt some stimulation, but I was mostly just relaxed and feeling a nice high flowing throughout me. I had some confusion on what I wanted to do though (I kept switching between music, TV and gaming lmao), and that's one thing about metocin that I've heard from others: The lack of headspace also creates a lack of direction. So be sure to prepare in advance what you want to do during the trip, otherwise you could end up doing random stuff during the trip like me, bahaha. Although going in with no expectations is also its own kind of trip as well.

Overall I really enjoyed these. Although I also really enjoy the 'trip goggles' 4-ho-met as well. Generally I'd say if I were to go for these again, I'd get the larger jar option. These tablets are pretty small, and the flavor reminded me of, like a really old smartie that's been left out to dry under the sun for years. But the small size of the tablet and ease of just chewing it made the process an afterthought pretty quickly. I would definitely get these again, the hype is definitely deserved. Just be responsible with these, don't go really high if you're new, test the waters first and figure out how deep you can go with these. Psychedelics, even gentle ones like 4-ho-met require respect, including requiring the consumer to respect themselves as well.

u/ObjectiveCharlie — 1 day ago

The visuals are so good

Can anyone tell me what's the composition in it? Is it just 4ho met? I already got 3 of them in an offer. Anyways I love them so much. The visuals are amazing!

Edit: Wrong image. right one in comments

u/TypicalCall12 — 1 day ago

Would like some advice

For context I take a whole pack alone when I do it I've done 3 packs before that was real intense but a walk calmed it but I've only done them at nighttime and they've all been wonderful experiences but today I want to day trip and I have my sober friend who said they'd bring me somewhere cool my main question is can I stack them say I take one can I take another or both in like 15 or 30 mins after the effect kick in from the first how will it effect the trip overall

u/Significant_Joke_21 — 22 hours ago

An old heads experience. My comparisons vs traditional fruits.

Stopped at the vape shop for some papers and liquid and struck up a conversation with the employee about the recent hemp ban(ohio) and got onto the subject of mushroom products. Told him Ive never tried any synthetic mushroom products but have a lifetime of experience with classic psychs and he threw this to me for free so I figured it was time. So I munched down this bitter little tab and waited..

00:00 get home eat the tab, go for a bike ride!

effects starting. very noticeable endorphin rush and instant increase in good mood.

00:30 effects coming on stronger not sure what to expect from 1 little tab was thinking microdose...........

........but we've BLOWN the fuck past that wow. Ok.

01:00 effects still increasing lots of euphoria slight stimulation and definitely some visual effects/ warping..feeling very wired and happy. Got to a friend's and smoked a few with the homie and had some deep convo like we always do. Love that dude!

02:00Finish smoking and head home. Definitely feeling full on trip while riding back absolutely enjoying every minute of that playful fun headspace.

03:00 get home feed the cats pet the cats and receive unconditional love from the cats! Why thank you immaculate perfect little creature! IM Definitely high....lol

04:00 just chilling effects finally feel to be wearing down slowly. A bit of nausea and im hot! but nothing a joint and some Ramen can't fix.

The end.

Thoughts:Im blown away..... I would compare this tab to a decent 2 gram trip. The differences I experienced were a bit more stimulation, slightly shorter duration and a bit more clear headed than traditional fruits. But nonetheless almost identical....and sold at a vape shop near you! What a time to be alive... the tides are turning, cannabis and psychedelics Will never go away!

These "tools" we are experiencing that have the power to shift your perspective ENTIRELY. I personally believe they are Sacred and from God whatever or whoever that IS.

u/MidwestSkateDad — 1 day ago

New to this need recommendation

Hello i’ve done shrooms before in the past so im semi experienced i was wonder which brand/tab i should choose first, i want something that will give me the same effects of shrooms. is Xum tabs pretty similar?

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u/Georgebbc — 1 day ago

My bad experience with Plur and long lasting after effects

Sorry if this is a long read. Buckle in if you’re interested or skip it if not.

The experience:

I dosed 75 mg 4 hours after a meal. The first 30 minutes I was playing a game but decided to lay down with some music and get cozy once it started creeping up. Around 45-50 minutes I felt very euphoric and the stereotypical mdma buzz with the music enhancing it and whatnot. At 1hr I figured I must’ve fully came up at this point and I was excited I skipped the come up horror stories like I seen in this sub. I feel like I need to poop so I sit down on the toilet and scroll through my phone.

A few minutes in nothing came out but I’m just vibing and scrolling my phone then suddenly I’m smacked in the face with a very disorienting and heavy feeling and the room gets wavy. I thought to myself okay here it really begins but no big deal im not freaking out at this point. My heart rate steadily increases and gets harder and harder probably the hardest it has ever beat. My brain feels like it’s rattling. As I get up to walk back to my bed I’m blinking so fast my eyes are basically fluttering as well as shifting side by side so fast everything is blurry. I turn on some music and decide to just remain calm and ride out the come up but it steadily gets more intense. I’m beginning to feel what I can only describe as a continuous brain zap like the kind you get withdrawing from ssris but continuous. I try to change the music because it’s getting too intense but I can’t even see my phone screen I’m practically blinded by the blurriness of my vision.

I can go into more detail but to cut it short the rest of the experience was purely negative and if I wasn’t so informed from lurking in this sub that I wouldn’t die I would have 100% have called an ambulance.

The after effects first few days:

Typical mdma comedown but much more anxious and my vision is still blurry. I had something to do on day 3 but I cancelled because I wasn’t comfortable driving with blurry vision.

4 days- 3 weeks:

-Tingles and sweatiness in my hands and feet

-intense waves of nausea that come and go

-very sensitive to caffeine it almost brings back the amphetamine background feeling from the roll

-intense anhedonia, depression, and confusion

-feel cognitively slower like my IQ dropped 30 points.

-Conversations are very difficult and I find myself constantly searching for common words to piece a sentence together

-tearing up randomly and during conversations

-i got lost a few times while driving to familiar places and used gps to navigate

By week 4 i started to feel sharper and the physical after effects subsided. At this point im 95% back to baseline but still feel vaguely different and mentally slower.

1/10 never again. This experience has basically led me to decide not to experiment with drugs again. I had my fun when I was younger but I don’t want to go through something like this again. If you’re reading this and considering trying 5mapb my advice is just stick to the classics or things you’re already familiar with.

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u/69VaginaLicker69 — 2 days ago

Why is everything so funny on xum

I chewed 3 of the xum tablets i think im about an hour in and everything is ridiculously funny im cracking up at everything, i literally just look at a painting of a pear and i start laughing

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u/Fit_Market5552 — 1 day ago

What happened to 4-AcO-DMT?

From what I remember, this was the main synthetic shroom. I'm a big fan of it myself. How come all of the new products use 4-HO-MET, 4-PrO-DMT or 4-AcO-DET. How come? All of these seem worse than 4-AcO-DMT, lol. 4-HO-MET was nice but not great and 4-PrO-DMT was horrible terrifying. Never tried 4-AcO-DET. Why no more 4-AcO-DMT?

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u/lordmittens420 — 2 days ago

How do labs do analysis to determine what’s in a MMM?

Title. Do they just put it in a machine? How does the machine extract or break down? Idk if this makes sense I was just wondering how labs give COAs.

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u/eternalapostle — 1 day ago

HPPD from 5-mapb

Has any experienced HPPD from 5-mapb. It's been almost 2 weeks since I took it for the first time and I've been seeing tracers and had increased pattern recognition while sober and sometimes I get a weird gravity sensation with spinning and feel that weird dissociative feeling I got on the come-up. It's scaring me shitless because I'll throw away my xüm and plür right now honestly but I don't want to fuck up weed forever and I don't want to feel so weird while sober anymore. Am I fucked? Weed definitely scared me after DMT it was much trippier and weird but this is a whole different realm. Idk man this is fucking with me really bad

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u/Beneficial_Method771 — 3 days ago

Will my tabs still work

I got some mushiez silly caps left over from like 3 months ago, I havent kept them in the best condition pretty much just losely wrapped in plastic, tucked away in my drawer, and its pretty humid here in florida. Supposedly they 4homet tablets, do you guys think they will still work? The blue color is a lil darker now im tryna find out if I should just go buy a new pack tonight or not.

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u/FeeshMeex97 — 2 days ago

Plür shot experience (50mg)

2:13pm: just took half of the plur shot, and put the timer on to let yall know. Ik it says to not take a microdose and take the full dose but im really sensitive to 5mapb and 100mg fucked me up way to much. 50mg is very perfect for me.

2:34pm: im on the massage chair, shit is so fire. It massage almost every part of your body this chair. So imma wait for the onset or peak effect while on the massage chair.

3:17pm: its been 1 hour and 4 mins and i feel it coming up, it feels like my whole body has butterflies and music sounds way better. Its not at it full effect yet since im on tirzepatide. Also hit my weed pen for the first time today, thought id wait a while to hit my pen.

3:27pm: holy fucking shit im like having a medium sized roll or something and i cant stop just moving. It feels like im having orgasms around my body and my eyes wanna just roll back at certain sounds of this song im listening too. The weed and nicotine intensify it and it feels so fucking good holy shit. Feels like 100mg of mdma. Im listening to lady gaga - paparazzi (alximo dubstep remix)

3:43pm: throwing tf up. I am so damn fucked up outta my mind. Im rolling around and throwing up in the toilet. Thank god i didnt miss. But im good now i think😂

4:09pm: finna take a shower and listen to music, because im in such euphoria and calmness right now

5:19pm: listening to project pat right. the shower was amazing. I lowkey got stuck in the shower just listening to music and lost the time, forgot it was a while. Was in there for about an hour. But i took 0.1mg of clonidine to calm down the norepinephrine effects and over stimulation. I wish i had cyproheptadine because thats my favorite for overstimulation from drugs like adderall, mdma, or 5mapb. But clonidine does the job somewhat. Overall effects right now are pure peace, euphoria, and idek. My eyes are twitching

6:15pm: time flew by fast asf, the clonidine helped with the overstimulation and now im chilling and feeling better. Staying hydrated and i think im coming down since its been 4 hours but my pupils are big and i feel some confusion and couch locked ash.

7:03pm: definitely coming down because im yawning like crazy. Slightly stimulated, but tired at the same time. I cant stop moving my leg, like im just bouncing my leg while sitting down. Idek bro but the euphoria is slowly going away. But my pupils are still huge. Im exhausted lowkey.

9:28pm: just in the comdown stage. Something idk. Just feel drained and tired, stimulated, heart a little elevated. But i had a good experience on it, music was super good and enjoyable. My eyes feel very droopy. Well imma sign out now, im tired asf lol. On a mg to mg for mdma, this is way fucking stronger.

Overall effects: Intense euphoria, blurred vision, twitching eyes, body orgasms, yawning, couch locked, music sounds fucking amazing, increased HR/BP, some jawing, loss of time (time goes by super fast), social asf, and confusion.

Favorite effects: intense euphoria with music playing, and body orgasms.

Cons: dehydration, sweaty palms and hands, restless while being tired at the same time.

Overall rating: 7/10

Dosage: 50mg 5mapb Plür shot

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u/ScienceMatterHCL — 3 days ago

Xum

How does the experience compare to OTHER competitors or sellers of 4 HO MET. I’ve only had a few experiences with different brands and want to hear from people who have tried a lot and how Xum compares. Also whether or not it justifies its price tag

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u/WHO_Anthrax — 3 days ago