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Just a Proud Punch’s Papa

Daddy photographing our gorgeous baby and Punch just posing his little tail off!

u/Dense-Self2197 — 11 hours ago

A Typical Macaque Day and What Some of It Means

A day in the life of a Japanese macaque (macaca fuscata).

The beginning of this video shows Punch engaging in some instinctual behaviors - foraging, picking up piles of older dried up leaves and inspecting them closely. It's instinctual for these macaques to check dried piles of leaves for hidden food items. Nuts, seeds, and small insects are often hidden in these old piles of leaves. Notice how Punch often stops, looks down, and then reaches and pulls up piles of leaves as he's foraging around these piles of sticks. He does this often - .43 seconds in he picks up a pile of leaves, but gets a playful chase, 58 seconds in he stops again, spies a pile of leaves and picks them up, Notice that he turns the leaves over and looks underneath them. He finds something tasty and eats a little bit and then continues to dig through the leaves which naturally drop down beneath the twigs. Every now and then he will eat something he finds - likely small bugs and seeds. They do eat fresh leaves and bark, but typically when you see them inspecting older leaves they are finding other hidden food gems and not eating the old leaves themselves.

At 3:07 they are both gnawing on the bark of a large twig. They soon are gnawing on the same area and spend some time seemingluy locked in a "kiss". Macaques don't actually engage in kissing, but these very close encounters are a way of social bonding. No matter how much Punch and his allies/friends play and trust each other, their bonds are constantly reinforced through grooming and other close contact. Of course, it wouldn't be a Punch video if the content creator wasn't focusing in on some behaviors, insinuating there is something more or strange going on here. 🤦‍♂️ This is perfectly normal behavior for these monkeys.

After briefly going back to check out the bark, Punch decides he'd rather forage around the leaves for a while.

Also - it's at this point that we hear some squabbling going on in the background. One of my favorite things about this particular video is that the creator left the normal sounds - and throughout this video we hear lots of squabbling, disagreements, and correction happening throughout- none of which is directed at Punch.

4:29 - Punch briefly "mounts" Moe. Depending on the age of the macaque, these incidents of mounting/humping serve a different purpose. Until these monkeys are around age 3 this type of activity is simply play and bonding, there is no erection or sexual type of stimulation going on prior to adolescence. We have seen Punch full on thrusting in the past, but he just does a half hearted mount here.

  • Age 0-1 (Infant): Humping is a part of rough and tumble play. There is no erection or sexual pleasure involved at this age, but along with other types of play it helps them develop balance and probably begins to help the males develop muscle memory for when humping turns from play to purposeful sexual activity.
  • Age 1-3 (Juvenile): Mounting frequency increases. Young macaques (particularly males) frequently mount peers using the double foot clasp mount, This is the mount method used by adults in heterosexual mounting, so this serves as practice for future proper technique.
  • (Ages 3-4) (Adolescence): This is a transitional phase. Females begin experiencing estrus and engaging in adult-typical reproductive and homosexual mounting. For males, mounting postures and solicitations become more effective and adult-like.
  • (Ages 4.5+ (Adulthood): Both males and females achieve behavioral sexual maturity. Mounting here includes heterosexual copulation and bisexual/homosexual consortships. Females may use the double foot clasp mount on males in order to solicit a sexual enxounter (female M. fuscata are not the shy and waiting around kind of gals). Female homosexual behavior involves a number of different positions as they seek to achieve genital stimulation

4:50 - Infants playing together. Early into Punch's hand rearing the decision was made to allow this troop to have a normal reproductive cycle in the next season, which would have begun when Punch was only about 2 months old. This was done in order to give Punch the best chance to ultimately integrate into the troop successfully. Species normative behavior is essential and is practiced with same age peers, rough and tumble play is necessary for development of essential physical abilities, age-matched peers provide a social bridge and safety net - allowing Punch as much opportunity as possible to establish allies.

These infants are naturally attracted to Punch because they recognize he is near in age to them. Some of them are large enough to begin safely playing with him already, and as time goes on we will see him playing with more and more of them.

In thsi clip of the babies playing together we can see them developing various physical skills they will need as they age.

7:00 - After spending quite a bit of time at the top of the mountain near and on the chain bridge playing with Moe, Punch decides to have some alone play time. This is a sign of a well adjusted young macaque. The social bonds are essential and it's importan that Punch has made allies and playmates, but it's also important for him to continue solitary play and exploration. Punch is very comfortable and feels very secure in his alone time.

After a short play session alone, Punch goes up to the top and receives some grooming from an adult, but Moe comes along and wants to play. There is anothe rbrief mounting and humping session followed by grooming. Often these mounting/humping events result in either play ro grooming.

10:53 Moe and Punch hear a squabble break out and after a quick listen they begin some play on the chain bridge.

16:56 - Punch enters the back area.

18:30 - Must be getting close to feeding time, Punch is climbing on the door with some of the others. A very short disagreement is heard in the background

18:50 - appaently Punch goes into the back area again. Some of the monkeys seem to be curious about what is going on in the back area, I'm sure they are calling Punch to come to the back and the monkeys are curious about what is going on, we have seen this curiousity at the new procedure from the beginning.

The sounds that happen are the normal sounds of excitement that precede the food districution.

19:21 Keeper enters the enclosure to distribute cabbage.

20:15 - Less than a full minute has passed and we start hearing spats and squabbles, monkeys being corrected, fighting over food. Again, Punch is not involved.

21:10 The monkeys that are all fairly close to each other and near the keeper are probably all pretty much at the same level within their hierarchy or they are allies/friendly as they tolerate each other being close in proximity while eating.

21:45 - More fussing/fighting over food is heard

21:52 -We see one of the infants with it's mother. Feeding time is highly dangerous for these infants because they don't yet know how to navigate the social etiqueete regarding hierarchy and feeding. But they are learning that feeding time feels tense, their mothers are keeping them close, making sure they don't accidentally wander into a dominant monkey's feeding area. The general feeling of stress and tension within the group naturally causes these infants to pay attention. Day after day of exposure to this behavior, the tension, the fighting they can hear, the way the other macaques are behaving all contributes to their education regarding feeding etiquette.

22:00 - This monkey is rolling food on the ground. Usually we see this behavior when they have grass or something larger. It's an instinctual behavior they usually engage in before eating vegetation. Rolling it around will loosen dirt and other things they don't want to eat, and is the primary reason for doing this.

22:10 - a solitary adult comes into view, approaches a small pile of scattered cabbage, and is able to eat in peace for a few seconds until he sees another monkey passing behind. He winces, which would indicate he is likely lower ranked. Lower ranked monkeys are always on edge, they tend to either stay with other lower ranked monkeys and allies, or like this one, wander around by themselves looking for food in areas that no other monkeys are around. He leaves the area because of the presence of the other monkey, he's not going to take any chances.

A young monkey (Momiage?) picks up a youngster and moves to higher ground. It is very likely this youngster is babysitting the youngster with the mother's permission as a mother is not gong to leave an infant to fend for itself during feeding time.

22:56 - This appears to be a while later, we saw monkeys roaming around and very little food still left on the ground. This youngster is by itself, but we will soon see the mother is close by. The more dominant monkeys are finished eating before the food is gone as they claim the best feeding spots and they are able to eat in peace without having to constantly run and find a different pile of food to snatch from. So, this is beyond any time frame where it would dangerous for this infant to be alone. But the mother is close by regardless as we see when the baby runs over to her.

23:15 - Punch has returned to the group. As we watch him we can see that he has a small piece of what might be cabbage in his mouth. Pretty soon we see him picking up small pieces of cabbage in the playground area.

It is likely that the keepers are deliberately throwing extra food in areas they know Punch likes to hang around to encourage Punch to get mroe comfortable with eating major food items out in the open enclosure. The more Punch is willing to pick up food items other than leaves, twigs, and grass from the outer enclosure area while other monkeys are around, the more comfortable he will become with the idea of eating among them.

They are likely also cutting down on his food portion in his private feeding sessions so he will be encouraged to pick up food out in the enclosure.

24:23 Punch has a pretty large piece of cabbage he's eating here.

24:47 - Punch is on one of his favorite places to chill and also seen eating a large piece of cabbage. Punch's besties seem to be of relatively high rank and they would already have eaten a full share of food by this time. At some point he seems to become more comfortable with the fact that he has a large piece of food and is out in the open and he jumps fully up onto the rope and chain area that he loves so much. He continues to look around every now and then, but does not seem overly concerned, he's enjoying his meal and seems very relaxed.

This may seem small, but it represents progress.

Small squeals can be heard now and then, the kind of squeals that represent a little spats, but Punch doesn't notice until it gets more serious. He looks to see what is going on, but the scene changes very quickly so we don't get to see his full reaction. What we do see of him he seems to be fairly relaxed about it all.

List of squabbles, disagreements, and corrections in this video (none involve Punch): 4:04, 10:53, 18:30, 20:15, 21:45, 26:26

(During a video of less than 30 minutes in length we hear a minimum of 6 different squabbles, some of them fairly significant- and not one of them involves Punch.)

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u/No_Vehicle_5085 — 18 hours ago

Retired Veterinarian post on their experience with hand-raised macaques

This is from a retired veterinarian from a different Japanese zoo, not Ichikawa.

Source in Japanese: https://note.com/isao4784/n/n76f5c5743db2

You can either use auto-translate on the original source or read chatgpt English version below. Feel free to comment if there's inaccurate translation. ETA: Formatting

Going to Meet Punch-kun, and Thinking About Zoos Through Punch-kun

ISAO / Veterinarian March 3, 2026

I went to Ichikawa Zoological & Botanical Garden to meet Punch-kun.

Punch-kun is a Japanese macaque who was hand-raised by keepers after being abandoned by his mother.

When I Hand-Raised Japanese Macaques

Years ago, when I worked at a zoo, I was making my morning rounds at the monkey mountain when I discovered a newborn Japanese macaque still attached to its umbilical cord, crying loudly. I contacted the primate keeper, and together the keepers, the zoo director, and I, as the veterinarian, discussed what to do. We decided to hand-raise the infant. The zoo director had to be involved because nighttime bottle-feeding and medical care would require overtime pay. Saving an animal costs money. I still remember the troubled expression on the director's face. I told him, "I'll do it even without overtime pay, so please let me." Looking back, that would be unimaginable today. But running a zoo means thinking about finances. Public zoos are funded by taxpayers, and overtime wages ultimately come from the public. At the time I thought, "The director is so stingy." Now I understand that simply wanting to save an animal isn't enough. There are many realities that have to be considered.

The very next day another crying newborn appeared. Once again the director, veterinarian, and keeper met, and we decided to hand-raise both infants together. Both were males. We raised them in an incubator in the veterinary hospital using human baby bottles and formula. Being young myself, I thought only about saving their lives. I never considered what would happen afterward. Because there were two of them, instead of clinging to an orangutan stuffed animal, they clung to each other. Although I wasn't being paid overtime, waking up in the middle of the night to feed them was enjoyable because seeing their happy little faces made it worthwhile. Later, the director found a way to pay me a small amount by classifying it as overnight duty instead of overtime. It was much cheaper that way.

Trying to Return Them to the Troop

When they were about six months old, we decided to return them to Monkey Mountain. Since none of us had any experience with this, we first introduced them while they remained inside a cage placed in the enclosure. At first the young monkeys gathered around the cage and watched from a distance. Then a young male began screaming loudly while kicking the cage. He climbed on top and stomped violently. Inside the cage, the two youngsters huddled together trembling with fear.

After several more introduction sessions, we decided to release them from the cage into the troop. Things seemed fine at first. But when a young male approached, the two monkeys clinging together let out terrified screams. Those cries triggered panic throughout the troop. Both youngsters were attacked repeatedly and seriously injured. We used water hoses to drive the other monkeys away, separated them from the troop, and hurriedly rescued them from Monkey Mountain. They spent quite some time recovering from their injuries in a dark room behind the scenes. After they healed, we tried again and again to return them to the troop. Every attempt ended with another attack. In the end, we were never able to return them. Eventually they were sold to an animal dealer. Back then, nobody knew where animal dealers ultimately sent the animals. I heard rumors they might be shipped to China. In truth, I never learned where they went. It's possible they even ended up at an animal testing facility.

What Makes Ichikawa Zoo So Remarkable

The remarkable thing about Ichikawa Zoological & Botanical Garden is that before Punch, they had already succeeded in returning another hand-raised Japanese macaque named Otome to her troop. Not only that—She later gave birth and successfully raised her own offspring. To me, based on my own experiences, that seemed absolutely impossible.

The dedication of the keepers is extraordinary.

I wish my younger self could have trained at Ichikawa Zoo. Punch, however, is a male. That may make things even more difficult than it was for Otome. Apparently he still experiences minor aggression from other monkeys, but he has avoided any serious injuries and seems to be doing well. I hope someday he becomes so fully accepted that he even fathers children within the troop.

About Hand-Raising Animals

Over the years I have hand-raised: Rabbits, Bats, Chimpanzees, Orangutans, Red pandas, Cattle, Horses, Dogs, Cats, Asian black bears, Japanese serow, Giraffes, Many other species.

The first challenge is always diarrhea. Because we use milk substitutes instead of natural mother's milk, adjusting the nutritional balance—especially fat content—is difficult. If the formula is even slightly too concentrated or too diluted, diarrhea develops almost immediately. Even animals of the same species often require different milk concentrations, feeding schedules, and amounts. For example, rabbits nurse only a few times a day in the wild, so their formula had to be much richer. Since many hand-raised infants never receive their mother's colostrum, their immune systems are weak. They frequently caught colds, and dried nasal discharge often made drinking milk difficult.

Although we could make them grow physically, we could never teach them the rules of being their own species. This is especially true for chimpanzees. Chimpanzees spend many years learning social rules from their troop. Since we humans don't know those rules ourselves, we couldn't teach them. A chimpanzee that doesn't know chimpanzee society cannot easily get along with other chimpanzees. Furthermore, chimpanzees that were abandoned by their own mothers often grow up to abandon their own offspring because they never learned maternal care. I once raised such a chimpanzee. When the animal reached about four years old, we began introductions to other chimpanzees. Having been raised by humans, the chimpanzee believed it was human. We first introduced it to an experienced, nurturing female. Neither accepted the other. Eventually they could at least occupy the same space. So we attempted to place the chimpanzee into the troop. The moment we did, an adult male bit it, fracturing its lower jaw. After surgery it recovered physically. But because an adult chimpanzee is too powerful to keep indefinitely in the hospital, it ended up living alone in a dark indoor bedroom because there were no other chimpanzees there. Only briefly in the evenings, after the other chimpanzees had returned indoors, could it go outside into the paddock. It took more than a full year before it could share the outdoor space with the others. Even then, it always sat apart from the group, sucking its fingers. Whenever it saw me, it reached through the bars asking to be held. Eventually this chimpanzee was also sold by an animal dealer and sent to China. Chimpanzees normally learn parenting by watching their mothers and other females within the troop. Hand-raised females almost always abandoned their own babies. Ironically, even without learning parenting, they still mated. To prevent an endless cycle of hand-rearing, we sometimes controlled reproduction in hand-raised females using contraceptive pills.

The Role of Zoos

Zoos originally began as royal collections displayed for people to admire. Today their stated purposes are: Species conservation, Scientific research, Education, Recreation. In reality, Japanese zoos do conduct conservation, research, and education, but recreation remains their primary role. Especially in regional zoos, there is often too little staff, too little funding, and inadequate facilities, making them primarily recreational attractions.

No animal chose to come to a zoo. Humans brought them there. They are kept for our enjoyment. Because of that, zoo professionals must always remember that the animals are, in a sense, the true "guests." Their responsibility is to provide those guests with the very best possible environment. In the past, zoos prioritized easy cleaning and clear viewing. Animals lived in barren concrete enclosures surrounded by iron bars. Imagine yourself living on concrete all day. I think I'd lose my sanity within a single day. Animals often developed stress behaviors: Constant body swaying, Endless pacing, Excessive grooming, Hair loss from over-licking. Then, beginning with places like Asahiyama Zoo, zoo professionals started transforming enclosures. They added soil. They planted trees. They studied animals' behavior in the wild and recreated environments that resembled their natural habitats.

The results were remarkable. Tree-dwelling animals climbed trees. Animals that loved water bathed and played. They became lively again. Their coats became healthier and shinier. Visitors could finally appreciate their natural beauty. Species that had previously been difficult to breed also began reproducing successfully.

This allowed zoos not only to showcase beautiful and fascinating animals, but also to teach visitors about the habitats where they live—and about how human activity is destroying those habitats and driving species toward extinction. Zoos became places of learning, not merely recreation.

Ichikawa Zoo also incorporates many welfare improvements throughout the grounds. There are elevated walkways for goats. The orangutan exhibit has three-dimensional rope systems that allow natural movement. The zoo director, who also serves as the manager, raises money through crowdfunding and other means to continually improve the zoo. One example of those efforts is the work being done to return Punch to his troop.

Designing the Red Panda Exhibit at Chausuyama Zoo

I worked together with the staff to design the red panda exhibit at Chausuyama Zoo in Nagano. Before designing the enclosure, we studied the species' habitat and behavior. We wanted to recreate their natural environment while minimizing stress and making daily management practical. However, the most important consideration was staying within budget. Research showed that red pandas dislike water. Instead of surrounding the exhibit with bars, we used a pond as a natural barrier. That allowed visitors to view the animals up close without visible cages while keeping construction costs low.

I love zoos.

Even after leaving zoo work, I still visit them often.

Some people say animals in zoos are pitiful. As a child, visiting zoos made me fall in love with animals.

That inspired me to become a veterinarian. Today, alongside my veterinary practice, I also participate in wildlife conservation.

I don't know whether zoos should ultimately continue to exist or disappear. But zoos that ignore animal welfare, make no effort to reduce stress, and keep animals in barren concrete cages simply for human convenience should disappear.

Zoos should strive to create environments that are even more comfortable than animals' natural habitats. I hope zoos become places where every animal looks happy—and where they truly are happy.

Ichikawa Zoological & Botanical Garden was incredibly crowded. The Japanese macaque exhibit, in particular, was packed with visitors. Unfortunately, what I was able to see this time wasn't Punch himself—it was only the orangutan stuffed animal.

u/sal_leo — 23 hours ago

A thorough back grooming 😂

He always have something in his mouth lol

Video on 7/4

Credit: @noumansaru

u/Long-shot128 — 1 day ago