r/surrodads

im a single (intended) dad, using celagem clinic services (Colombia)

after a rather fast procedure - my embryos did not survive implementation, so i am yet again at the beginning of the quest - picking a donor and so on.

the situation with celagem is far (far far) from being good (or decent) they availability of donors is 0. the catalog they provide is no more than a book of young and potentially fertile women - non of them are available in any reasonable time frame for donation. waiting time is 7 months at least, if one is lucky and the doner is still up for the procedure so far in the future.

it seems the clinic does little to no effort to solve this situation, and they rely on you being a captive customer at that point.

i know from a few friends that are now dads and moms that 3-4 years ago things were far better - excellent availability, great donor selection and fast procedure. They also used a different, more attractive catalog – both in numbers of donors and their(subjective) attractiveness.

i would not recommend anyone to use their services, if i would have known how fast and deeply it deteriorate

 i would stay away.

Open for questions!

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1t624wx/ukraine_is_a_global_surrogacy_hub_but_that_could/

All of a sudden, a lot of negative comments appear.

What is more, it happens almost at the moment of publication.

These users often subsribe to the same subs.

Ordinary people get the impression that almost everyone is against surrogacy. While plenty of polls, even in the most surrophobic countries, prove the opposite.

This is yet one completely overlooked point, which is a consequence of the lack of consolidation.

This is one of the reasons why bans on surrogacy are being passed so easily.

That's why gays post "they made surrogacy more difficult. I cried all night." and agencies jump from one location to another one.

Maybe it's to time to do something, before it's too late?!

upd: this is also harassment of families and IPs.

ILGA Europe have not included surrogacy in its annual reports but have included artificial insemination.

That is, biological parenthood doesn't matter for gays, but it does for lesbians.

Surrogacy must be addressed as an LGBTQ issue. And opposition to surrogacy is a form of homophobia. Lack of this is one of the main reasons why things are so bad with surrogacy in Europe. It is highly unlikely that they are unaware that today surrogacy is perhaps the only way to build families. As gay couples across Europe report that adoptions have become extremely difficult, if not impossible.

Why such disregard for us? Why on Earth is Spain dark green? For torturing gay families?

Gay men have completely lost their identity. And bi men are never taken seriously at all in the mainstream LGBTQ organizations. It is we who must determine our rights and not allow others to impose them on us.

Plus, servility to anyone who calls themselves a feminist, even if they cause a colossal damage. That's why ILGA Europe is afraid to include surrogacy as it could cost them politically, but isn't afraid of losing G and B(m) at all. Or simply don't want to do it in spite of the obvious demand for it. and instead of protesting, gays write on forums "They made surrogacy more difficult. I cried all night." And also upvote biased reports like that. Or repost it. Of course, it's about LGBTQ people.

Why is there such disregard for our most important issues in these LGBTQ organizations? Gay couples can't create families. What could be more important? Could this be changed? Or is everyone content with this grim situation?!