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Hello, I apologize for using what is essentially a blank account. Despite the name and question, I hope that my post will be allowed to remain up by the moderation team.

I am trying to connect with people who have left the Thelema movement. My inbox will be publicly available for anyone to message about their experiences. Specifically, I am curious why people might leave the movement.

As you know, some people may remain religious after leaving organized structures, so this question is not specifically directed at people who are disgruntled towards Thelema and the philosophy behind it, but I don't mind hearing from people who have left.

Whether it's lack of interests, finding a new organization or beliefs, I am curious to hear about people's journey through and out of Thelemic groups/organizations.

More specifically, I am hoping to hear from people who have left OTO (Ordo Templi Orientis), as this is the group that I have most experience with.

Personally, I am not a follower of Thelemic beliefs and my knowledge of it is quite elementary. I am not making this post as any kind of accusation or prejudice, just a call for more information and education. Please feel free to also express your opinions in the comments, as well, but let's remain respectful.

Thank you!

Apparently, they recognize Crowley as a Magus and Thelema as one of their Aeonic words but build further past Thelemic tradition. Just curious if there's any cross-pollination here or positive experiences with ToS.

I saw a comment on this Subreddit stating that Crowley's magick wasn't the most effectiv, and that he was a pretty ineffectiv magician, and that you can see that by taking a look in his diary.

Is that true or just made up?

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Hello, I just moved from Boston to Virginia and I'm looking for some Thelemites or VA's OTO. I emailed them a week ago but haven't gotten a response. Let me know if VA has a good Thelemite community

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With the news of Russia, planning to break and attack Poland, ongoing conflicts with the Middle East, the wall and cultural conflict of America, are current thelemites tracing war at all?

Aren’t we connected to WW2 in a way? Can we predict, and defend Europe?

How does that work from a thelemic perspective? Don’t we have a faster prediction of war thanks to when thelema was created? A lot of our symbolism matches up right with conflict.

Dunno I just read it in the news and went commando

The Point has no location because location itself derives from it.

Its power is precisely this: the capacity to generate a here, to open a perspective where before there was none.

The center of perception is that power in act.

When you attend to the sheer fact that experience seems to come from somewhere; that sights and sounds arrange themselves around an unlocatable focus behind the eyes, or nowhere at all.. you're noticing the Point's signature.

You can never find the center as an object. Look for it and you find only more content: thoughts, sensations, images. The center is never in the field; it is what the field is organized around.

Because all perception radiates from this center, the perceived world is structurally a return: everything given is given to the point, angled back toward it.

So the world doesn't just contain you; it answers you. And the form of that answer is inversion.

Think of what a reflection actually does. It reverses handedness.

It presents your face; the one surface of yourself you can never directly see, as an exterior.

What is inside for you.. your interiority, your outward gaze, becomes outside in the reflection.

The world, as your mirror, holds you turned inside-out.

It carries the version of you that you structurally cannot be from within: yourself as seen, yourself as object, yourself reversed.

Normally this inversion stays dispersed.

However, when you conceptualize it, and gather up the insight that everything facing you is holding your reverse.. the inversion stops being scattered episodes and becomes a single continuous form.

And its shape follows necessarily: if you are the figure, your inverse is the ground fitted exactly to you.

Where your body is convex, it is concave.

Where you push outward from your center, it presses inward toward it.

It is your negative mold!

Since the whole perceptual field faces you from every direction, the inverse isn't located anywhere in particular; it surrounds you totally, as a field enclosing the whole body.

Would appreciate it if you checked it out.

Letterboxd: https://letterboxd.com/film/the-nine-muses-for-albion/

Comecei realizar o Resh e notei uma coisa que tá me incomodando um pouco.

Quando vou praticar, por morar no Brasil, hemisfério sul, durante o sol do meio dia, a instrução é se virar ao sul, porém fazendo isso eu fico de costas pro sol... Que no meu caso está no norte.

Quem mais aí também passa por isso e oque fez no fim das contas com as direções? Tipo, meio que isso muda não só o Resh, mas muita coisa né ?!?

I especially love the constant posts about how everything we know about "modern Thelema" is wrong and how we should all become right-wingers like we assume Crowley was or something

P.S. Shouts out to my many reincarnations of Aleister Crowley

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Pretty much the title. I'd like to get a decent knowledge of astrology, so i can interpret my natal chart. I have no idea where to start. (General tips on that would be great too)

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