u/3rd_Floor_Again

Kimi K3 used for coding tasks is great! But in the moment i use it as a specific role in my server PM for instance, he starts overdoing/overexploring and burning a lot of tokens unnecessarily.

How have you created a skill or harness that limit the level of exploration Kimi CLI does ? I do use ~yolo mode because most of the projects here are Pet projects with tons of backup, so i don't care if they fuck shit up (preferebly not of course =) )

But i don't have the same issue with Codex or Claude for instance, they remain straight to the point.

Any suggestions? Thanks!

Anthropic is trying to gaslight us into believing that Opus 5 is almost as good as Fable. That's borderline absurd. Fable just identifies and fixes shit faster. That's it.

Decided to test K3 against Fable and GLM 5.2. The one summoning them was GPT 5.6 Sol. I'm using Fable and GLM 5.2 as auditor agents and code advisers that Sol can summon whenever it hits a point in a dev task where it failed 2x.

Playing with K3, I had the impression that, although it felt substantially better than K2.7, it was spending way too many tokens exploring more than it should, even with a tight prompt and a very clear task and boundaries.

I asked Sol to add K3 to the team of auditors/advisers. Sol liked its first work, but decided not to use it anymore due to lack of reliability in resource usage and speed, which was delaying the whole task.

Sol's final verdict on it.

https://preview.redd.it/vjoik0l7j1eh1.png?width=475&format=png&auto=webp&s=6bd28a6ec457315976fcc5135c00011d4dfb2e47

How's the experience been for you guys so far?

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Decided to test in a production line the GLM 5.2 on GLM Coding Max Plan vs Opus 4.8 on Claude Max+ (not only on quality but how fast do I run out of Session Tokens).

This was fast. Claude Max+ can keep going for much, much longer. I had to add Claude to keep the tasks going.

At least how the context window is 1M tokens, but with this rate, albeit is a good model, pricing wise on this plan (160 USD) Claude/GPT still delivers more.

One of the reasons why i downgraded Kimi is because for the multi-model production line i built, the model was all the time reaching context limitation and crashin mid-task, even optimizing the instructions to use agents etc. for a specific task, and often it would just ignore the instructions and try to consume the whole files as context, crashing mid way through it.

So was reducing and reducing the usage to the point it became idle. I really enjoy the IDE, although sometimes the model misunderstand what I am asking and start doing stuff he wasn't supposed to do. In general I like it, but reasoning needs to improve a bit and context window size as well.

Very relaxing album, my favorite song from the album.

Currently the app only allows me to select GLM 5, it doesn't seem to have a way to manually edit the model to select GLM 5.1.

Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way?

It is so f. reliable. Really.

I've been running a team of agents from East to the West side of AI world, similar capabilities, similar tasks, coding.

I feel Z.ai is pretty good, but very expensive, consumes token like there is no tomorrow, even if you are running on glm-4.5-air. The f. concurrency limits is insanely annoying, getting 429 errors all the time, which forces me limit task production, crazy token consumption instead of cacheing correctly, and other problems really made me think that, although they have superb model and really good output quality, it is less competitive when you try to scale it.

On GLM i have the Max Plan and on Kimi Allegro. I feel I am doing way more with Kimi, with a superior model, spending less tokens, than with glm-4.5-air. I even make Kimi 2.6 challenge GLM 5.1 assessments and it always get important gaps. Fuck, it find gaps even from f. Opus 4.7 (which he agrees and very often really praise Kimi work 😃 )

So far, very good value for money, a Sonnet 4.6+++.