Image 1 — GS x AL 2g Live Resin AIOs
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GS x AL 2g Live Resin AIOs

I gotta hand it to the team down at /u/Growsciences I never thought i would buy AlienLabs and actually enjoy it after how many bad carts and flower I've gotten from them to date. I saw the XJ13 x Trop Cherry on sale the other week though,and jumped on grabbing it after hearing so much positive feedback so far just to give it a shot and see how it was.

I've got no clue if there's any hardware modifications between what's being used for these and the second generation 2g body but after going through their whole inventory to sample and experiencing the oil browning out I didn't think that I would ever willingly go and buy them as they just weren't for me. And yet, here I am having just bought another one because I saw the Atomic Apple x Topanga x Mike Larry one today purely based off of how good my experience has been this time around.

It's definitely still a tight pull, if you're used to a vape that you want to form a full seal around the mouthpiece to inhale you'll probably need to adjust how you rip it.

The budtender that pushed me towards the XJ13 x Trop Cherry said that it was going to be a spicy/peppery note dominating but even with that being noted it was surprising just how spicy it was. Definitely not in a bad way, but the first rip on it just throws you off a bit and I don't know that any amount of description would have prepared me for it. It's also got a very sweet chlorophylly taste lingering underneath it after the initial bite rolls off of it.

The AA x T x ML is a lot more earthy of a profile though, so if you prefer the more straightforward almost generic weed taste I would absolutely lean more towards this one out of the two.

Even running just about down to the bottom of the XJ x Trop I haven't had any degrading happen at all which I'm shocked by considering the majority of my 2g device experiences start to go bad by around the last half gram even if it starts out extremely well.

As far as the blinking issue that I've seen people report on, I haven't had any problems at all. It's gone through two charging cycles so far. If I have anything wrong with the one I got today I'll definitely report back.

Overall, I'd absolutely buy em again and recommend it to others.

COAs:

XJ13 x Trop Cherry

AA x T x ML

u/5threel — 5 days ago

Update on the two year old SUNO RSO: what SUNO told me

I tagged SUNO in my Instagram story about the tincture Ponderosa sold me with 3 months left. After a week or so, customer service emailed.

They said the tincture "should actually be effective for 3 years past the production date." The bottle says 2 (12/03/2024 to 12/03/2026). They also said it's "less effective than when originally produced," so the 100mg on the label isn't the actual accurate dosage by time it's leaving shelves if it's sat too long.

The carrier is hemp seed oil. Studies going back to 2008 flag it as oxidation-prone. In a 2024 study, a commercial cold-pressed hemp oil in dark glass bottles hit a peroxide value of 35.79 after 2 months at 20 °C (68 ⁰F) with the limit being 15, versus 12.34 refrigerated. The authors note it started out marginal. Source: MDPI Another 2024 study found only foil-wrapped amber glass kept hemp oil stable at 25 °C under light. Source: National Institute of Health

SUNO says the label tells you to "STORE AT ROOM TEMPERATURE. AVOID HIGH HEAT." I asked what stability data supports a 24 month expiration. Their answer: "I will pass along your question about the 24-month expiration timeline." Cool. The average "Room Temperature" is 68-72 ⁰F which sits at/above the temperature from the 2024 tests.

One study does cut the other way: sealed amber glass showed no significant oxidation after 3 months. Source: Science Direct That's only 3 months, though. SUNO put a claim of 24 on the bottle. 8x any baseline I can find evidence to support as being a reasonable timeline. All of this research tests plain hemp seed oil specifically, and I found nothing on how RSO changes it when introduced.

According to their own words they chose hemp seed oil to keep the product "100% cannabis-based." However, the same tincture they have for sale on Hazy Botanicals uses MCT oil, which is mostly saturated fat and resists oxidation. They say AZ and MI "could ultimately" switch based on consumer feedback. From what I can tell MCT oil is the industry standard carrier, and there's no reason aside from superficial claims to make the oil 100% cannabis-based.

SUNO also says retailers can return close-dated or expired product "as desired" even extending into poorly selling stock and not just expiring. Ponderosa could have pulled that stock off the shelf and recouped their purchasing cost. Instead the store told me their whole supply was the same 2024 batch, that a new one was "coming soon" with no date for it.

Nobody in this chain cares. SUNO put a 24 month clock on a hemp seed oil carrier, labeled it for room temperature storage, and can't show any stability data to back that up as a reasonable life expectancy. Ponderosa kept selling nearly two year old stock SUNO says it could send back. And this is RSO, which people buy when they're sick or in pain. They count on that 100mg. For the producing company to basically shrug and tell me that it's still safe to consume, just degraded shows me loud and clear they don't give two single fucks about the intended market for their products past the contents of their wallets.

Fuck you Suno, and fuck you Ponderosa. 🖕

u/5threel — 13 days ago
▲ 13 r/southwestents+1 crossposts

Copperstate - Terps and Caicos...God DAMN

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So the same day I picked up the new Swiitch I also grabbed a 1g jar of Terps N Caicos. This one's a pale cream color with a very funky almost cheesy aroma. Not gassy at all, and no real herbal notes either. Super firm concentrate, if you're into rolling your own hash holes this would be GREAT for it!

Effects-wise it sits right in the middle. No couchlock pulling you into the chair, but no creative or energetic boost either. Just an extremely pleasant high that kept me functional. The terpene profile explains it: limonene and caryophyllene running nearly equal, with linalool presence to keep anything from tipping sativa.

What surprised me was the stability. I left a scoop out of the fridge for a few days and the texture stayed firm, terps didn't sweat out at all, and the flavor didn't fall off. Still, I would recommend keeping it chilled and properly come to room temperature before opening the jar for the best experience.

In the PuffCo, most concentrates I smoke need qtipping after the second cycle. This one consistently went three cycles, and I was extending the cycles too on top of it. The flavor stayed clean through cycle three even though the oil had gotten dark and mostly boiled off. I stopped there instead of pushing a fourth because I wasn't going to risk it getting harsh, but the longevity was genuinely impressive. This is pushing what I've come to expect from my rosin pickups at this point.

The COA looks great. 74.58% THC, basically no CBD at 0.1554%, which tracks with the lack of sedation. 5.6% terps means it's not volatile enough to fall apart as observed by my room temperature testing. Everything passed: residuals, pesticides, heavy metals, microbials all clean.

One thing that stood out: the cover page lists 06/26/2026 as the harvest date even though one of the source strains came in 7/6/2026. They used the older date. Most brands would flip that and list the fresher one. That's the kind of detail that matters, and puts a bit of a nail in a misconception I've seen thrown around that the most recent number has to be the one used. The only restrictions that I'm aware of is that only one date can be listed. Most brands opt to list what looks the most appealing, I think this is the first instance I've seen (or at least noticed) where they've opted to list the most transparent option.

I've seen a few people ask how someone could commit to 5g of one strain without burning out on it, but I could absolutely see myself getting some of their 5g/99 jars. A few strains that I was looking for was only available in 5g and I'm already considering just taking a chance based on this jar.

u/5threel — 16 days ago

Cali Pickup: CLSICS - Blue Crack - Single Source Live Rosin AIO

Left Phoenix for a little bit so that means it's time to try some new stuff from next door in Cali 👀

Taste leans a little diesel on the inhale, but earth carries most of it, and there's a creamy note on the back end that hangs around between pulls.

Effects match the sativa call on the box. Uplifting, clear, no couch weight.

One gripe on hardware: the cart isn't postless. It pulls fine and the rosin tastes right for now, so I'm living with it and just trying to be gentle with the pulls to make the flavor last as long as it can.

COA breakdown: THC 73.014%, total cannabinoids 78.691%, terps 3.418%. Everything passed, and the package UID on the sticker matches the COA source package ID.

**Terpenes, 34.18 mg/g total**

| Terpene | mg/g |

|---|---|

| β-Caryophyllene | 6.73 |

| δ-Limonene | 4.90 |

| β-Myrcene | 4.04 |

| α-Pinene | 3.49 |

| α-Humulene | 2.81 |

| β-Farnesene | 2.68 |

| Terpinolene | 1.74 |

| β-Cedrene | 1.72 |

| Linalool | 1.55 |

| β-Pinene | 1.35 |

| α-Bisabolol | 1.10 |

| Valencene | 0.84 |

| Endo-fenchyl alcohol | 0.71 |

| trans-Ocimene | 0.52 |

Caryophyllene and humulene on top track with the earthy, peppery base. Cedrene and bisabolol fit that creamy note. Pinene and limonene sit high enough to read as the light diesel on the inhale.

One oddity in the paperwork: the COA lists a collection date of 07/16 and a received date of 07/15, so the sample allegedly showed up at the lab a day before somebody took it.

Would still buy again next time I come to visit

u/5threel — 1 month ago

What the fuck is Deceptive Pricing, anyway?

If you haven't caught any of my previous posts about it, I host a database of scrapes from public AZ dispensary menus every day and save the raw data for...stuff like this. It's been running since July 11th, and currently has about 83 stores as of the 30th and growing (not all running the full length of time as I keep adding more on when I have time to).

Below are four Flower Shop listings, one from each category. Same finding in all four. The crossed-out price never shows up as the actual price on any day I captured.

Pre-roll: Sublime Blue Dream .5g, Flower Shop Ahwatukee, product ID 1547602.

Shelf sat at $5.55 for all 27 days. The was-price took 16 different values and hit $60.

Date Shelf Was THC
7/29 $5.55 $6 23.25
7/30 $5.55 $20 30.83
7/31 $5.55 $34 30.83
8/1 $5.55 $10 30.83
8/2 $5.55 $10 30.83
8/3 $5.55 $60 30.83
8/4 $5.55 $40 30.83
8/5 $5.55 $12 30.83
8/6 $5.55 $10 30.83
8/7 $5.55 $14 20.44
8/8 $5.55 $20 30.83
8/9 $5.55 $42 30.83
8/10 $5.55 $50 30.83
8/11 $5.55 $14 24.22
8/12 $5.55 $22 30.83
8/13 $5.55 $22 30.83
8/20 $5.55 $36 30.83
8/21 $5.55 $30 30.83
8/22 $5.55 $34 30.83
8/23 $5.55 $10 30.83
8/24 $5.55 $10 30.83
8/25 $5.55 $24 30.83
8/26 $5.55 $45 30.83
8/27 $5.55 $48 30.83
8/28 $5.55 $10 30.83
8/29 $5.55 $50 30.83
8/30 $5.55 $10 30.83

The gap from 8/14 to 8/19 is because the listing was off the menu those days, I still scraped that store those days and got results for other IDs, that specific product just wasn't there.

The THC variance I'm sure is going to come up - three days read different:

  • 23.25 on 7/29
  • 20.44 on 8/7
  • 24.22 on 8/11

The other 24 logged dates all read 30.83. Based on what I see, I'm confident in saying that's not a new batch randomly popping in and out. Jane assigns a product ID to one listing. That ID doesn't get recycled, and it definitely doesn't get handed to a different lot for one day and handed right back. 8/6 reads 30.83, 8/7 reads 20.44, 8/8 is 30.83 again. Inventory doesn't show up and disappear overnight. It looks like a menu field glitching, or being edited by a user managing the store - but the price sat at $5.55 through all of it regardless.

And yes, $5.55 lands on other Flower Shop items the same days, so it's likely a store-wide doorbuster price. That doesn't explain a $60 crossed out above a half gram that has never sold for a dollar over $5.55 in 27 days and counting.

Flower: Rebel Grown Rebel Cookies 3.5g, Flower Shop Phoenix, product ID 2844572.

$17.50 on 32 of 33 days. Seven different was-prices.

Date Shelf Was THC
7/28 $17.50 $35 27.16
7/29 $17.50 $35 26.57
7/30 $17.50 $35 26.57
7/31 $17.50 $36 41.74
8/1 $17.50 $40 28.18
8/2 $17.50 $30 21.49
8/3 $17.50 $36 28.18
8/4 $17.50 $24 28.18
8/5 $17.50 $36 24.28
8/6 $17.50 $36 28.18
8/7 $17.50 $35 26.57
8/8 $17.50 $35 24.06
8/9 $17.50 $35 22.39
8/10 $17.50 $45 24.06
8/11 $17.50 $35 24.06
8/12 $17.50 $35 28.18
8/14 $17.50 $18 24.06
8/15 $17.50 $36 24.46
8/16 $17.50 $18 24.06
8/17 $17.50 $36 21.64
8/18 $17.50 $36 21.64
8/19 $17.50 $18 27.05
8/20 $17.50 $35 22.39
8/21 $17.50 $30 21.49
8/22 $17.50 $36 24.37
8/23 $17.50 $36 27.16
8/24 $17.50 $35 24.06
8/25 $17.50 $35 29.53
8/26 $17.50 $36 22.1
8/27 $7.00 $18 21.1
8/28 $17.50 $36 24.06
8/29 $17.50 $36 28.67
8/30 $17.50 $24 25.88

One real markdown in 33 days, and even that one is measured against an $18 the eighth never sold for, and is only claimed 3 other times over the set of data.

Vape: Abstrakt Bubba Bomb 2g, Flower Shop Ahwatukee, product ID 2741625.

This one is different and honestly worse. The was-price doesn't move at all. It reads $60 every single day for 34 days. The shelf runs $36 to $39.99 and still never gets near the alleged "was".

Date Shelf Was THC
7/28 $36.00 $60 89.81
7/29 $39.00 $60 89.81
7/30 $36.00 $60 89.81
7/31 $36.00 $60 89.81
8/1 $39.00 $60 89.65
8/2 $39.99 $60 89.81
8/3 $39.00 $60 91.45
8/4 $36.00 $60 90.37
8/5 $39.00 $60 90.37
8/6 $36.00 $60 89.81
8/7 $36.00 $60 95.81
8/8 $39.00 $60 90.4
8/9 $39.99 $60 88.64
8/10 $39.00 $60 85.32
8/11 $36.00 $60 89.65
8/12 $39.00 $60 88.64
8/13 $36.00 $60 90.43
8/14 $36.00 $60 89.81
8/15 $39.00 $60 86.76
8/16 $39.99 $60 85.32
8/17 $39.00 $60 89.81
8/18 $36.00 $60 88.53
8/19 $39.00 $60 74.88
8/20 $36.00 $60 96.9
8/21 $36.00 $60 97.17
8/22 $39.99 $60 89.24
8/23 $39.99 $60 89.07
8/24 $39.99 $60 88.38
8/25 $36.00 $60 92.36
8/26 $39.99 $60 92.36
8/27 $36.00 $60 96.56
8/28 $36.00 $60 83.23
8/29 $39.99 $60 85.53
8/30 $39.99 $60 88.91

A stable fake number is still fake. This cart has a permanent "$60, now $39" tag on it and the $60 has never happened.

THC on this one swings from 74.88 to 97.17, with a vape maybe there's a chance of an old batch getting lumped onto the same SKU because of old inventory, but having dealt with databases myself it still doesn't make sense that the whole listing would just change day-by-day like that. Regardless, it's never been $60 as claimed.

Edible: Uncle Arnie's Sunrise Orange 100mg, Flower Shop Ahwatukee, product ID 1195960.

Date Shelf Was
7/28 $7.00 $10
7/29 $7.00 $10
7/30 $7.00 $10
7/31 $7.00 $10
8/1 $7.00 $10
8/2 $7.00 $10
8/3 $7.00 $18
8/4 $13.00 $26
8/5 $7.00 $10
8/6 $7.00 $10
8/7 $7.00 $10
8/8 $7.00 $20
8/9 $7.00 $10
8/10 $7.00 $20
8/11 $7.00 $20
8/12 $7.00 $20
8/13 $7.00 $20

$7 drink. The "regular price" was $10, then $18, then $26, then back to $10, then $20. It's like a roller coaster of deceptive pricing.

Before someone says this is just how these menus work:

Wyld Blood Orange 1:1 100mg at Trulieve Roosevelt Row, product ID 655d820d6526100001e6a8b7:

Date Shelf Was
7/26 $21 none
7/27 $21 none
7/28 $21 none
7/29 $21 none
7/30 $21 none
7/31 $21 none
8/1 $21 none
8/2 $21 none
8/3 $21 none
8/4 $12.60 $21
8/5 $21 none
8/6 $21 none
8/7 $21 none
8/8 $21 none
8/9 $12.60 $21
8/10 $21 none
8/11 $21 none
8/12 $21 none
8/13 $21 none
8/14 $21 none
8/15 $21 none
8/16 $12.60 $21
8/17 $21 none
8/18 $21 none
8/19 $21 none
8/20 $21 none

Strike is $21 every time it appears. On the days with no sale running, the gummies cost $21. The number they're discounting from is the number they actually charge, so $12.60 is a real 40% off.

Now let me be extremely clear about something, because I'm not about to let this turn into a Trulieve commercial:

I have been on Trulieve for months over their advertising. I archived every promotional email they sent me for 11 months. 313 emails. 180 of them, 57.5%, made an absolute claim in the headline and then walked it back in the fine print. So no, this is not me calling Trulieve a good dispensary. They are one of the worst offenders in this state for deceptive marketing and I have a year of receipts on it.

And that's exactly why I used them. A company I have been publicly fighting with over lying in their advertising still manages to put a real number in the strikethrough field. That is the floor. That is the absolute minimum bar for not lying about a price, and just about our entire market sits underneath that bar.

It isn't a Flower Shop problem. It's an everywhere problem, and Flower Shop is nowhere near the worst of it:

Out of 72 stores with enough promo listings to fairly judge, from my 8/9 cut and not independently re-verified yet:

Never-at-strike rate Stores
Under 10% 0
10 to 25% 18
25 to 50% 8
50 to 75% 33
Over 75% 13

Not one store came in under 10%. The worst are running 85 to 97%, and that group is Story Midtown and Dunlap, Ponderosa, Earths Healing, Sol Flower, and several JARS locations. Most Curaleaf and most Story sit in the 50 to 70 range.

Flower Shop lands somewhere around 43 to 51%. Middle of the pack. I picked those four listings because the individual histories are clean, unambiguous and easy to check, not because that shop is the biggest offender. It isn't.

Trulieve is the only large chain under 25%, and among stores with real promo catalogs they're the only ones down there at all. A couple of small shops post similar percentages on a few dozen promos, which isn't a fair comparison against thousands.

That low rate still doesn't make Trulieve honest. It makes them consistent. Their strike prices tend to be real prices. What they put in the email that sends you to those prices is a separate problem entirely.

What I'm not saying: every sale in AZ is fake. It isn't. I do have a statewide number and I'm sitting on it until I can verify it a second way, because putting out a percentage I can't defend would undercut every table above.

This is menu data, not register data. I can tell you what was advertised on a given day. I can't tell you what anyone paid at the counter. And I'm not claiming these products never sold at those prices at any point ever, only that they didn't on the days I captured.

Per verbiage from the FTC's Guides Against Deceptive Pricing, 16 CFR 233.1: "One of the most commonly used forms of bargain advertising is to offer a reduction from the advertiser's own former price for an article. If the former price is the actual, bona fide price at which the article was offered to the public on a regular basis for a reasonably substantial period of time, it provides a legitimate basis for the advertising of a price comparison. Where the former price is genuine, the bargain being advertised is a true one. If, on the other hand, the former price being advertised is not bona fide but fictitious—for example, where an artificial,* inflated price was established for the purpose of enabling the subsequent offer of a large reduction—the “bargain” being advertised is a false one; the purchaser is not receiving the unusual value he expects. In such a case, the “reduced” price is, in reality, probably just the seller's regular price."*

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u/5threel — 2 months ago

Sometimes you just need a fat donut on a Friday night and bosa won't cut it.

This is an off-market home blend of "Omakase Frosted Mint Wedding Donut". 🐟❄️🍪🎂🍩

Flower: Thin Mint (Joel's Cannabis / A2J Cultivation)

Concentrate: Oishi (Meet the Bakers)

Glue: Wedding Cake distillate (Gelato Baller Brush / Hana Meds)

Kief: everything that has been in my grinder

The whole thing was pretty pleasant. The flower, despite sitting in the deli bag for over a week now, hadn't dried out at all. Nice dank smelling bag with some very noticeable but subtle minty notes in the scent.

The concentrate has been my favorite so far from Meet the Bakers. It's not quite that buttery fatty taste and smell that GDL Otoro gives you, but somewhere between that and the straight up burning rubber that came from the Cherry Papaya MTB jar I tried before.

The baller brush smells very strongly of distillate, that almost sickeningly sweet note. The brush is very easy to operate though. The real trick is making sure you do it fast enough to get the kief sticking before it loses its tackiness from drying into the paper, and making sure it's applied in even layers so it doesn't canoe.

The smoke was very smooth. You could taste it the moment the oil started getting burned through, coming through the combined taste of the kief, the distillate glue, and the base flower, adding almost a conjoining layer over all the different tastes that would otherwise be fighting each other, filling in the space between and making it work.

COAs for what I have:

Thin Mint, Kaycha Labs TE60320006-002, batch A2J-251201-001

21.14% THC, 1.75% total terpenes, passed everything. Harvest 02/26/26, sold to me 08/13/26 at Deeply Rooted.

Wedding Cake distillate, Apollo Labs 2504APO1529.8211, 11 pages

44.66% THC, 48.12% total potency, 5.28% terpenes.

Page 7 is the good part. There is no Wedding Cake in the Wedding Cake. Ethanol distillate run from GMO, Purple Mojito, and Cherry Crescendo, all harvested mid-2024. The line reads "Terps - Wedding Cake." The strain name comes off the terpene jar, but that's just common practice for distillate and not a red flag.

Pages 8 through 11 are three change request forms fixing the production date and then the harvest date twice. My package label says harvest 01/26/2026. The COA says 09/03/2024.

The Oishi is off-market and has no COA. The kief is a year of grinder collection across more strains than I can reconstruct, so nothing there either.

Overall absolutely a 10/10 concoction.

u/5threel — 2 months ago
▲ 41 r/osrs

I released a plugin to make Alchemy more fun!

Just broke 350 active installs, and I'm currently working on building in a leaderboard as well as some other features I've thought up!

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u/5threel — 2 months ago

FBI Investigated Curaleaf for Corruption and Money Laundering

Not a shocker considering how often they flood all the weed subs with "reviews" that don't properly disclose that they're sponsored ads.

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u/5threel — 2 months ago

Canamo AIO V2 Follow-Up

Follow-up to the post where the Lemon Terpsicle AIO had floaters and spots on the chamber wall at purchase. Ponderosa swapped it same day for a Mojo Melon. I ran that one dry before writing anything else because I wanted to see just how good the hardware was by the end.

It lasted about a week, no clogs or leaks the entire time. Airflow stayed a little bit tight, but it never got WORSE and the vapor production was enough that the hard pull wasn't unsatisfactory. It never burned either, not once through the whole tank!

Taste held steady start to finish: almost generically weedy, with a sour undertone underneath. A couple rough pulls came near the end, but only when I began pulling until the blinker timeout. Even then, the oil didn't visibly burn and it didn't affect the next pull.

The battery took one charge across the week. I hit it at 60% out of caution, not because it needed it, it probably would have run the full week without one, but I've also noticed a lot of AIOs tend to hit cooler as the battery dies.

Hardware verdict: I'd buy this again. It's a real step up from Canamo's old stick-style hardware, and I honestly didn't have major complaints with that one either. This is just better.

A few software notes, minor but worth flagging:

The preheat is a nice idea with a rough implementation. Double-tap to start the countdown, and your only options are let it run out or press again to cancel. Most hardware lets you start pulling mid-countdown and picks up the draw. This one doesn't. My first pull, out of habit from other devices, landed during the countdown and registered nothing so the coil never fired off.

Single-tap on the button shows a "0" on screen, which reads like a hit or blinker counter, then moves to battery percentage. If you pull for a full 10 seconds, though, it throws an error code instead of logging anything. If the counter isn't meant to do anything, I would think it should skip straight to battery percentage instead of showing a number that never moves.

It's absolutely small stuff, and most people won't notice it let alone care, I admit. Once you see how simple the software running these devices is, half-finished touches like this just stand out more than they should. I personally don't think it's being picky, I think that it says something about whether the team behind the product understood what they purchased and shipped, or whether the firmware got outsourced without any real checks.

On Canamo as a company: they've been hit or miss up to this point. I've gotten some amazing stuff, and I've gotten some disappointments. JARS is absorbing Sonoran Roots now, though so I don't expect things to get better. It's a fucking shame watching another Arizona operator fold into an MSO that's built its reputation on gutting the parts of a company that actually mattered.

Hardware: 4.5/5

Oil/Taste: 5/5

Experience: 5/5

If you're gonna try their new hardware definitely do it before the enshittification of JARS hits.

Full COA

u/5threel — 2 months ago

Canamo's new AIO - decent hardware, but have they ever actually heard of quality control?

Canamo AIO2 (Sonoran Roots) - Lemon Terpsicle Live Resin | Bought at Key Cannabis | Priced at $22.50, marked down from $45

My first impressions on the hardware are positive, with the caveat that I've taken maybe a dozen pulls and I'm not going to finish this one, so treat this as a first look and not my actual review. Airflow is a little tighter than I'd like, but the vapor production is satisfying enough to make up for that. It didn't burn terpenes off on me immediately, which is my usual complaint with live resin AIOs, but a dozen pulls isn't enough to tell you whether it clogs, leaks, or holds up to empty. If it turns out the oil is the only problem here, the device is absolutely a step up from their old hardware.

The oil is my problem. And whatever else made it into the chamber with it.

First hit tasted green. Chlorophylly, and wet, like standing in a cure room. On paper this should read earthy: myrcene leads at 2.62%, limonene at 1.60%, caryophyllene at 1.10%, so a musky base with citrus and pepper over it. That's not at all what this is. I gave it a handful of pulls to see if it changed or improved at all, but it did not.

Then I looked at the window. Black specks in the oil, and in one corner of the chamber, small dark spots on the wall itself. Not discoloration in the oil, and this thing hasn't run enough heat cycles for burn residue to build up. The other three corners are clean.

My read is mold. Not in the oil, on the chamber wall. Moisture in an empty chamber before filling would easily cause that.

The COA (Apollo Labs, batch CAN260529-005, collected 06/16, completed 06/18) is spotless. 82.69% total THC, 8.39% terps, every safety panel ND. Pesticides, microbials, mycotoxins, heavy metals, residual solvents, including butanes at ND on a butane run.

None of which covers what I'm looking at. Apollo tested a sample of concentrate. Nobody tested the assembled device that concentrate went into. A compliance panel has no line item for plant matter in your oil or for what's growing inside an empty chamber, and a homogenized sample wouldn't catch either one. A clean COA and a clean product are two different claims entirely as proven by this vape.

Their marketing for this drop leans on "no additives" and "quality-first processing", but clearly it's yet again marketing fluff and not an actual mission statement

I reached out to Sonoran Roots, but I've never actually been able to get a response from them in the past so I'm not holding my breath.

If the taste were the only issue I'd have gritted my teeth and finished it, because "tastes like an uncured plant" isn't a return reason anyone honors. Spots on the chamber wall and physically suspended in the oil are a different conversation entirely and should never have made it to a sales floor to begin with.

Link to the COA

u/5threel — 2 months ago
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One Trulieve email: two excluded products in the ad and a sale price higher than last week's shelf price

Today's Trulieve email has two sections. Both have problems.

Problem One: The Buy More Save More graphic

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The top half runs a scaling discount. One product gets 30% off, two gets 35%, three gets 40%, four or more gets 45%. The collage behind those circles shows the products you mix and match to get there.

Two of the items in that collage are excluded from the sale.

A Grön Milk Chocolate Mini Bar sits at the top, tucked behind the 45% circle. A Baby Jeeter Pre-Roll sits at the lower left, next to the Abundant bag.

The exclusion line under the Shop All Deals button reads: Excludes Green Dot Labs, Roll One, Keef, Sip, Grön, Wyld, Wyld One, Pre-Rolls, & Accessories.

Grön by name. Pre-rolls as a whole category.

I have posted about Trulieve's fine print enough times that some of you scroll past me on reflex, so for anyone that's made it this far without dipping - here is why this one is different. Every collage of theirs I have gone through pictured brands the sale covered. Green Dot Labs, their most frequent exclusion, has never turned up in one. I caught them once slipping a live resin pen into a hero image for a live rosin category, but even that one had every pictured product on sale. They were just padding a thin image due to a lack of Rosin products.

Someone opening this email sees a chocolate they like sitting under the biggest number on the page. They add three other things to reach the fourth-product tier. At checkout they find out the chocolate was never part of it, and neither was the pre-roll two inches below it. The graphic sold them the product and the eight point type at the bottom took it back.

Problem Two: The Roll One block

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Under that exclusion list, the same email advertises 30% off all Roll One products with five prices and strike-throughs claiming what they cost before. I used ClearShelf.green, a menu tracker I built and run, to check what those products actually cost at Trulieve during the last week of July. It pulls every product from Arizona dispensary menus once a day and keeps up to a rolling 30 day history, so a struck-through price can be checked against what the item cost last Tuesday instead of taken on faith. I unfortunately did not get Trulieve built into the pipeline until more recently - but here is what these five Roll One products actually cost at Trulieve during the last week of July during the period I have been tracking them.

Product Email shows Jul 26-31 shelf Aug 1 You save
Clutch/Flex 1g $28 (was $40) $30 every day ~$43 $2
Clutch/Flex 2g $42 (was $60) $40-45 depending on day ~$59 -$2
Flower 3.5g $14 (was $20) ~$19.50 ~$19.50 $5.50
Flower 14g $49 (was $70) $45-50 ~$68 $1
Concentrate 1g $14 (was $20) $12-14 $13 -$1

Roll One AIOs sat at $30 and $40 across every Trulieve store in the state for the last week of July. On Friday the promo cleared and the shelf snapped back to list, up 43% on the 1g and 49% on the 2g. On Saturday the email went out offering 30% off that restored list price.

The eighth is actually at a "discount". It held at full price for six straight days, so $14 off a $20 reference is honest. The other four land within $2 of what the same product cost in July. Two of them cost more today than they did this week.

If you bought a 2g Clutch on Wednesday you paid $40. The "30% off sale" charges you $42. That's a $2 increase for the "sale" price from the tracked average.

If you bought a gram of concentrate yesterday you paid about $13. Today's sale price is $14. That's a $1 increase for the "sale".

Federal rules on this are specific. The FTC's Guides Against Deceptive Pricing, 16 CFR 233, say a struck-through former price has to be a price the item was offered at openly for a reasonably substantial period in the recent regular course of business. A list price the shelf touched for one day, after a month of the item selling for $30, is the situation that rule exists to cover. Arizona courts are required to follow FTC interpretation under A.R.S. § 44-1522(C), and cannabis advertising carries its own rules under A.R.S. § 36-2859.

You can check this yourself. ClearShelf.green is free and I make nothing off it. It has a fake sale filter built for this exact pattern, showing what a SKU cost a week ago next to what it costs today, and you can look at Roll One specifically to see the five lines above sitting right there. Run it against whatever email hits your inbox tomorrow. I built it because arguing with a dispensary about what something cost last week goes nowhere without a record, and now there is a record.

But 5threel - if this is so plain and simple, why has nothing happened yet?

The reaction I keep getting, is that if this were illegal somebody would have stopped it by now. Consumer fraud enforcement in Arizona runs on complaints. The AG's office opens a file when people log complaints, and it moves at the speed of a state agency with a queue. A company continuing to send an email tells you nothing about whether the email is legal. It tells you nobody with authority gotten eyes on it to make a ruling.

I have filed on this with the Arizona AG, AZDHS, and the FTC. Trulieve has answered.

Here is their defense: they cannot evaluate the complaint because I did not include my full breakdown of 313 emails. They say the exclusions are stated clearly. They argue that because I identified the exclusions, I proved they were disclosed. They claim no consumer was harmed.

Every part of that is wrong, and most of it Trulieve knows is wrong.

Those 313 emails came off their servers. Their marketing team wrote them. Their designers built the graphics. Their systems sent them to my inbox. Asking me to produce their own emails before they will address whether their own emails say what I said they say is nothing more than a stall in hopes that I give up and that this doesn't gain more traction. They have access to their own records. The claim that they cannot evaluate a complaint about their own promotional emails because they did not receive a copy of their own promotional emails is not a legal defense.

On the exclusions being stated clearly: stating an exclusion is not the same as disclosing it adequately. Arizona courts are required to follow FTC interpretation under A.R.S. § 44-1522(C). The FTC's position is decades old. A disclaimer cannot contradict the main claim of an ad. A picture in an ad is a claim. Grön in the collage says "this product is part of the sale." The fine print says "Grön is not part of the sale." Those two statements contradict each other. No amount of small type makes that contradiction disappear.

On consumer injury: the violation is the deceptive practice itself. Arizona law A.R.S. § 44-1522(B) prohibits deceptive practices likely to mislead reasonable consumers. It does not require that a consumer actually be misled, and it does not require that the misled consumer purchase. A reasonable consumer looking at a chocolate bar sitting under the 45% discount circle is likely to believe that chocolate bar qualifies for the 45% discount. That is the violation. Whether someone bought it is separate.

One complaint gets a form letter. Twenty complaints from twenty separate people about the same email gets something else, because at that point a stall stops being available. Trulieve is betting on that "one person" staying one person.

If you got this email

File with the Arizona Attorney General

File with AZDHS

Post the screenshot publicly and tag them.

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u/5threel — 2 months ago

Either Trulieve REALLY fucked up today's ad, or some GDL is actually included today

Fine print excludes GDL from every category but prerolls, infused prerolls, and concentrate.

Not sure if they'll try to claim that it's covered under the initial fine print for "1000+ products" on BOGO but they're setting a pretty clear precedent for themselves by excluding specific brands by brand and failing to do so with these three categories. Especially with GDL being INCLUDED on the Vape and Flower ones.

And if that's the angle, it doesn't hold. Arizona's Consumer Fraud Act (A.R.S. § 44-1522) makes deceptive advertising illegal whether or not one single person got misled by it, and 36-2859 bars dispensaries from running false or misleading ads on top of that. They sent the email, they own what's in it. So if you go in for this and they turn you down at the register, push. Get a manager, make them point to the line in the ad that excludes it, and record the interaction if you're comfortable doing that. Arizona is one party consent, you can record any conversation you're part of. I've already got multiple reports on file with the AZAG, AZDHS as well as the FTC surrounding this but reports like this generally only lead to something when there's a pattern made from MULTIPLE people's reports.

Their line on brand exclusions has been that it's due to contracts with the brands. That's between Trulieve and the brand, though. It doesn't change what THEIR OWN ad says, and if a contract blocks discounting then the brand goes in the fine print like it did for every other category. It's their responsibility to ensure the ad is written correctly, and they should be responsible for eating the cost difference on sales made due to them failing to correctly make their own ads.

u/5threel — 3 months ago

Dispo Price Tracking

As a result of the reported price gouging prior to this weekends 7/10 sales I threw this together. I'll try to keep up with running it daily, but I've got two python scripts on my desktop that scrape through both Earth's Healing locations, the Tolleson Story, and North Chandler Story as a control store since that one wasn't specifically named as gouging to grab the raw site data as .json - and then another that cleans it up and pushes it to the sheet.

There are formulas set up to find fluctuations in the prices store by store as well as a flag for if they have the same item listed multiple times with different prices because I found an instance of it. I genuinely thought it was just broken, but nope. Two listings for the gummies and the only thing different is one is more expensive and one says THC in the indica/sativa indicator.

Hopefully this will help call out more shadiness among these companies and keep a paper trail that we can use to actually hold them accountable.

I'll eventually try to add more dispos to this as well, but it's unfortunately a bit of an uphill battle to get them working. Adding in the rest of the Story locations will probably come sooner as I already have their site figured out in the scraper, but other dispos like trulieve/mint/cura/etc will unfortunately take a bit more time.

If you guys use it and notice anything that's wrong let me know.

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u/5threel — 3 months ago

Whoopties "Walter White" Deli Flower Review

A mold concern about Whoopties got posted not too far back, and a couple people ended up reaching out to me directly asking me to look into it. The original poster ultimately deleted their callout after Whoopties replaced their product with four free jars, and in that now deleted post claimed the mold traced back to how the flower was packaged, writing that "the issue with mold present was in a Mylar bag, and this is from flower that is generally packaged individually by retailer."

That's not really how Arizona's supply chain works. Retailers don't package anything but Deli style. They sell it. It wasn't made clear if it was a branded mylar or a deli style purchase in question, though.

That potentially inaccurate claim, plus the people asking me to dig into it, is what pushed me to DM Whoopties directly. The packaging question wasn't really what I wanted answered though. What actually mattered to me was why this never got a wider public statement given how many people could have bought that same batch over the months it was on shelves.

Whoopties told me the batch was produced and delivered almost four months before the complaint surfaced, and that same batch sold through five other retailers with good feedback and no other complaints. Their read was that the mold came from storage conditions at that one dispensary rather than anything wrong at the production level, which is why they handled it as a direct replacement for that customer instead of pulling every unit of that SKU sold over the prior several months. A retroactive recall across months of sales doesn't make sense if the product leaving their facility wasn't the problem.

So when I saw their deli flower on sale I finally gave it a shot.

Rang in at $8.40 pre-tax for the gram, marked down from $14. Deli style, if you're unaware, means the flower comes out of a bulk jar and gets weighed and packed in front of you instead of sitting in a prepack, which puts a lot of trust in how the dispensary handles and stores it moreso than the brands ability to grow. It's gotten me insanely dried out buds in the past, but this pleasantly wasn't another one to add to the list. The buds entirely held up, ground down to a standard consistency in my regular grinder without turning to powder, and the trim was tight with almost no leaf or stem in the mix.

Batch 260522-005 was harvested 5/20/2026 and tested by Encore Labs on 6/3/2026. Total cannabinoids came in at 22.96%, with clean results across the full pesticide, heavy metal, and microbial panels. Terpenes measured 2.805% total, led by caryophyllene with myrcene, humulene, and limonene stacked close behind rather than one note running the show.

The experience tracked with those lower terpene numbers. Barely anything off the bag itself scentwise, with some musk once the bud got broken open. The flavor on both the dry pull and after lighting is a light, plain weedy taste. Nothing offensive, nothing overly memorable.

The burn quality is where this really earned its rating for me. I smoked the full gram down to the filter without it turning harsh or resin heavy. I've personally moved to primarily half gram joints because full gram ones so often go there by the end and start feeling wasteful, so a full gram staying smooth the whole way through stands out.

The high matched the smoke: clean, functional, not too stoney, and I felt productive instead of just pinned to the couch.

This is not a flavor showcase by any means, but neutral isn't bad, and at this price with labs this clean and a burn this smooth it's an easy recommend. With it being a newer operation overall, I'm excited to see what they get into as they develop in our market.

4.5/5

u/5threel — 3 months ago

Nugrun Levels Up: The New AIO Finally Matches the Oil

Edit: I misunderstood what's going down 7/10 - these are NOT launching on that date unfortunately.

Corrected statement on launch: They won’t be quite ready to hit the shelves in mass prior to then, but at a few select local shops, they’ll be sending early access door buster units to those that shop nugrun this holiday.

There are brands you root for before you've even tried them, and Nugrun has been one of them since they hit my radar. I wrote a full piece on their original AIO over a year ago that never made it to light. The hardware had widespread clogging issues that they acknowledged publicly, and while they never pulled the AIO off shelves entirely, they were upfront that the 510 cart and their low voltage battery was their recommendation until they got the hardware right. The CEO and co-founder, Ethan Van den Berg, personally met me to hand one off alongside their branded battery after both the original unit and its dispensary replacement turned out to be duds. Not many brand founders show up in person to make it right, and honestly it really gave me a lot of respect for them.

So when I saw them advertising a redesigned AIO, I DM'd them asking whether it was new hardware or a repackage. I was planning on buying one for a review anyway. They selected me for their inner circle tester program instead.

The Hardware

The new AIO uses the same hardware platform that 710 Labs runs their devices on, which if you're familiar with their lineup tells you everything you need to know. It also happens to be the same unit Grow Sciences handed me as a beta unit during my 2g AIO testing round, so I've had some time with this hardware before. It's a meaningful step up from the generic AIO hardware most brands are running, and the difference is immediately obvious. If you know the hardware you also know it's not as straightforward as most pens you can just rip from cold.

How to Use It

Taking a cold rip straight off the bat doesn't deliver a satisfying hit, which tends to lead to stacking pulls, which leads to overheating the coil and burning your terps. The recommendation is turning it on and running the preheat function before your first pull. Consistent, satisfying hit every time. Once it's turned on and ripped it's good to go, but if it sits for too long just flip the switch off and back on to re-run the preheat.

Similarly, ripping it back to back too aggressively will get the coil running hot and you'll start tasting brown instead of flower. Give it a beat to cool down between hits, and it should stay tasting like fire until the end.

Neither of these are dealbreakers for me personally. They're how you get the most out of live resin/rosin hardware. I don't think the hardware will ever truly be able to match the abuse that distillate pens can take, and that's not a bad thing. They're very different extraction mediums and distillate is drastically more forgiving.

The Oil

The strain for this round is Blackjack, a sativa dominant. It tastes like fresh snapped stems. Not loud, not diesel, not lemon, just planty. As someone burnt out on the diesel & lemon profiles dominating the Arizona market right now, this was just *chef’s kiss*. It's flavorful in a way that feels more like handling fresh plant material than vaping processed concentrate, which is what whole-plant live resin is supposed to deliver and rarely does.

The hardware has held up to routine use in a way the original AIO never could. No clogging, no burning, no degradation in hit quality over time as long as you're following the preheat practice above. When you run it right it absolutely blasts your face off.

7/10 is going to be the drop for these in dispos. If you've enjoyed Nugrun before, you're going to love this. If you've been avoiding them because of hardware issues, I'll put it this way: I'm probably one of the pickiest people on this subreddit, I'm not afraid to give brands bad feedback, and my criticism is part of why they keep coming back to me for testing. I don't actively look for problems, but I don't give issues a pass to shield feelings or avoid awkward situations either. This one has my stamp of approval.

Hardware: [9/10] A serious upgrade over the old AIO hardware that plagued the original, and it held up to routine use with no clogging or degradation. It demands the preheat ritual and patience between pulls, which is the tradeoff for hardware accurately built around live oils instead of distillate.

Oil: [10/10] Blackjack delivers the fresh plant flavor that whole-plant live resin promises and rarely achieves. In a market drowning in diesel and lemon, planty is a compliment.

Overall: [9.5/10] The oil was never the problem. Now the hardware matches it.

Note: Since this was a pre-launch unit with labels still in production for their 7/10 drop, I was asked to focus on the hardware and oil rather than any aspects of the package because what I got does not represent what you'll see on a shelf. While they did give this 1g AIO to me for testing, they have not in any way paid me for a review.

The unit I was given did not have a COA attached to it, so I don't have anything to dive into on that front but I will be following up once they're on shelves and it is accessible to me.

u/5threel — 4 months ago

Uncle X's "full time design team" is just AI.

Once again I opened my Instagram feed and got met with another no effort AI slop, this time from a brand I've actually enjoyed in the past - Uncle X. I left my usual comment saying "ew, AI slop 🤮" (the comment was deleted shortly after by the page) and responded to the story post saying "Wish y'all paid actual artists" to which they responded "We do 🙏 this was designed by our graphic designer."

So I popped it into Gemini to search for SynthID and to no surprise, it was embedded in the image.

For anyone who doesn't know, SynthID isn't a detection tool making an educated guess. It gets embedded directly into images at the point of generation by Google's AI platforms. You can't fake it and you can't explain it away. The whole point is so that it's permanently written into the image and not just the metadata so it can be detected even if screenshotted, etc.

I sent them the SynthID documentation and they came back with this: "Bro.. our full time design team uses modern ai tools to build every concept to do what they do best. The tools change but our creativity doesn’t 🤙"

So to be clear. They deleted a public comment calling it AI. They responded to a private message implying they don't use AI. Then confirmed they use AI for every concept when pressed directly.

What genuinely sucks is that Uncle X isn't bad flower, for a budget brand they punch above their weight on the product side. The issue isn't the weed. It's that they're building a brand identity on AI generated imagery, deleting public criticism of it, and being misleading about it privately until cornered.

"The tools change but our creativity doesn't" would be a deflection in any context. In this one it's also not true. Feeding prompts into an AI platform and calling it your design team's creative output isn't a modern workflow. It's replacing the creative process and putting a human name on it to avoid accountability. A human didn't design that. A prompt did.

Glad they let me know loud and clear not to support them though 🤷

u/5threel — 4 months ago

Some operators in the AZ cannabis scene assume their audience is fine with AI generated marketing. I don't like assuming. Here are the results.

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41 votes over three days. The 17% who said they'd begrudgingly stick with a brand using AI heavily are worth paying attention to. That's nearly 1 in 5 people who have already decided they don't like what a brand is doing and are staying anyway, either out of habit or lack of alternatives. In a market with as many options as Arizona has, that's a thin rope to hang on. Begrudging support is not loyalty. It's tolerance with an expiration date.

Cannabis has always had a visual identity built by people. AI doesn't eliminate the need, it eliminates the paycheck. The work still happens, it just stops going to someone in the community.

"I like AI" is a personal position. Assuming your audience agrees because nobody said otherwise is exactly the thinking this poll was built to test.

Disliking it privately does nothing. Tell brands directly and back it up with where the money goes. When you see them post AI slop flyers, don't just move on. Tell them you think a local artist would be better.

u/5threel — 4 months ago

AI generated marketing is everywhere in the AZ cannabis scene. Does it matter to you?

Earlier today I called out a fairly well known local brand for using AI generated marketing. What followed was an hour of deflection, and ultimately the entire thread just getting deleted rather than addressing the point when I asked if they had ever actually polled their audience on how they feel about it considering it's such a big topic and just about every creative market is against it.

So since they clearly aren't going to ask their own audience: does AI generated marketing affect how you feel about a brand or personality in this space? Does it change whether you engage, buy, or show up? Is there a line between occasional use and a feed that's almost entirely AI output? And do you think local photographers, designers, artists, and consumers who aren't any of those should be saying something louder about it?

View Poll

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u/5threel — 4 months ago

Product Review: Grow Sciences BlinQr AIO Line

After having an overall negative experience with the 2g Resin devices, Matt invited me back to do my thing with the new BlinQr line they have coming out, and my experience with them has been a complete 180! I've got the full details in the write-up, but if you've followed my posts you definitely know that I'm a bit picky when it comes to how my hardware functions in regards to burning off terpenes/flavor.

Honestly great job overall from the GS team, it's been great being able to dive into something new and not have it turn into just finding everything that's wrong about it.

I believe they're launching on the 9th if my write-up makes you want to try them yourself!

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u/5threel — 4 months ago