u/7TMFlaash

Timings not working with Crucial 32 gb 6400 MT/s cl32 memory

I bought a kit of 32 gb 6400 MT/s cl32 of crucial ram, and i tried downclocking it to 6000 MT/s, but the only two settings i found to consistently work are 6000 cl36 and 6000 cl50 which is pretty slow, especially since i wanted to leverage the lower latency in 1:1 ratio. I saw a reddit post of a guy who downclocked it without any issue but if i replicate what he did it keeps booting in safe mode, even if i change the slightest timing. The guy also said that the expo 2 preset was 6000 cl30, but for me its 6000 cl36, and we have the exact same memory model (CP2K16G64C32U5B). Is this an example of losing the silicon lottery or did i do something wrong? i even tried to change the trfc, but even with a conservative 700 it boots straight in safe mode after one retry.
Here's my baseline (stable EXPO II 6000 CL36):

System:
- Ryzen 7 7800X3D
- ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi, BIOS 3279
- AGESA ComboAm5PI 1.2.0.3f
- Crucial Pro CP2K16G64C32U5B (Micron H die)

Frequencies (1:1 confirmed):
- MCLK 3000 / FCLK 2000 / UCLK 3000
- 6000 MT/s

Primary timings:
- tCL 36, tRCDWR 38, tRCDRD 38, tRP 38, tRAS 80, tRC 144

Secondary timings:
- tRRDS 8, tRRDL 15, tFAW 32
- tWTRS 8, tWTRL 30, tWR 90
- tRFC 884 (294.67 ns), tRFC2 480, tRFCsb 390
- tREFI 11677
- tRDRDSCL 8, tWRWRSCL 23
- tCWL 34, tRTP 23, tRDWR 15, tWRRD 8
- Cmd2T 1T, GDM Enabled, BGS Enabled

Voltages:
- VSOC (SMU) = 1.24V (set to Auto in BIOS)
- MEM VDD = 1.35V
- MEM VDDQ = 1.365V
- CPU VDDIO = 1.35V
- MEM VPP = 1.83V

ODT/Termination:
- ProcODT 48Ω
- ProcDqDs 40Ω
- DramDqDs 48Ω
- RttNomWr/Rd Off
- RttWr RZQ/6 (40Ω)
- RttPark RZQ/6 (40Ω)
- Nitro 2/3/1

What I tried that fails:
- tCL 30 with tRCD/tRP 38: safe mode after ~10-20s DRAM training (even with VDD/VDDQ 1.40V, VDDIO 1.35V, VSOC 1.25V manual)
- tCL 32 with tRCD/tRP 40: safe mode
- tRFC 700 only (everything else baseline): safe mode

Any suggestions? Is my IMC just unlucky or is there something specific to try for Micron H + 7800X3D?

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u/7TMFlaash — 8 days ago

Timings not working with Crucial 32 gb 6400 MT/s cl32 memory

Ho acquistato un kit di RAM Crucial da 32 GB a 6400 MT/s CL32 e ho provato a ridurre la frequenza a 6000 MT/s, ma le uniche due impostazioni che ho trovato funzionanti in modo costante sono 6000 CL36 e 6000 CL50, che è piuttosto bassa, soprattutto perché volevo sfruttare la latenza inferiore con un rapporto 1:1. Ho visto un post su Reddit di un ragazzo che ha ridotto la frequenza senza problemi, ma se replico la sua procedura il sistema si avvia sempre in modalità sicura, anche modificando minimamente i timing. Il ragazzo diceva anche che il preset di Expo 2 era 6000 CL30, mentre per me è 6000 CL36, e abbiamo esattamente lo stesso modello di memoria (CP2K16G64C32U5B). È un caso di sfortuna con la "lotteria del silicio" o ho sbagliato qualcosa? Ho persino provato a modificare il trfc, ma anche con un valore conservativo di 700 si avvia direttamente in modalità provvisoria dopo un solo tentativo.
Here's my baseline (stable EXPO II 6000 CL36):

System:
- Ryzen 7 7800X3D
- ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WiFi, BIOS 3279
- AGESA ComboAm5PI 1.2.0.3f
- Crucial Pro CP2K16G64C32U5B (Micron H die)

Frequencies (1:1 confirmed):
- MCLK 3000 / FCLK 2000 / UCLK 3000
- 6000 MT/s

Primary timings:
- tCL 36, tRCDWR 38, tRCDRD 38, tRP 38, tRAS 80, tRC 144

Secondary timings:
- tRRDS 8, tRRDL 15, tFAW 32
- tWTRS 8, tWTRL 30, tWR 90
- tRFC 884 (294.67 ns), tRFC2 480, tRFCsb 390
- tREFI 11677
- tRDRDSCL 8, tWRWRSCL 23
- tCWL 34, tRTP 23, tRDWR 15, tWRRD 8
- Cmd2T 1T, GDM Enabled, BGS Enabled

Voltages:
- VSOC (SMU) = 1.24V (set to Auto in BIOS)
- MEM VDD = 1.35V
- MEM VDDQ = 1.365V
- CPU VDDIO = 1.35V
- MEM VPP = 1.83V

ODT/Termination:
- ProcODT 48Ω
- ProcDqDs 40Ω
- DramDqDs 48Ω
- RttNomWr/Rd Off
- RttWr RZQ/6 (40Ω)
- RttPark RZQ/6 (40Ω)
- Nitro 2/3/1

What I tried that fails:
- tCL 30 with tRCD/tRP 38: safe mode after ~10-20s DRAM training (even with VDD/VDDQ 1.40V, VDDIO 1.35V, VSOC 1.25V manual)
- tCL 32 with tRCD/tRP 40: safe mode
- tRFC 700 only (everything else baseline): safe mode

Any suggestions? Is my IMC just unlucky or is there something specific to try for Micron H + 7800X3D?

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u/7TMFlaash — 8 days ago