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SMCI Valuation with recent announcement

Doing so with help of Gemini.

Using only FY 2026 EPS

Before the update, Wall Street consensus for full-year FY2026 EPS was sitting around $2.13–$2.18. The margin surge significantly alters the Q4 bottom line.

1. Actual FY2026 Results (Q1–Q3)

SMCI’s reported diluted EPS for the first three quarters of FY2026:

Quarter Reported EPS Key Context
Q1 FY26 $0.35 Initial inventory adjustment recovery
Q2 FY26 $0.69 AI server delivery momentum builds
Q3 FY26 $0.84 Strong demand beat ($0.84 vs $0.61 consensus)
Q1–Q3 Subtotal $1.88 Cumulative actual EPS heading into Q4

2. Forecasting Q4 FY2026 EPS

Prior to the preliminary announcement, SMCI guided Q4 revenue to $11.0B–$12.5B with gross margins of 8.2%–8.4% and adjusted EPS of $0.65–$0.79.

Applying the updated Q4 parameters:

  • Revenue: Estimated near the low end of guidance (~$11.0 Billion).
  • Gross Margin (15.0%–17.0%): Midpoint of 16.0% yields ~$1.76 Billion in gross profit (compared to the ~$935 Million original baseline at 8.3%).
  • Operating Expenses: Estimated at ~$650 Million–$700 Million.
  • Operating Income: ~$1.06 Billion–$1.11 Billion.
  • Effective Tax Rate & Interest (~15%): Yields estimated Net Income of ~$900 Million–$940 Million.
  • Diluted Share Count: ~590 Million shares.

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Forecast Q4 FY2026 EPS Scenarios:
 ├── Low Margin / High OpEx (15.0% GM):  ~$1.25 EPS
 ├── Base Midpoint Case (16.0% GM):      ~$1.45 EPS
 └── High Margin / Cost Control (17.0% GM): ~$1.65 EPS

This places forecasted Q4 FY2026 EPS at ~$1.35 – $1.55, roughly double the initial $0.65–$0.79 guidance window.

3. Total FY2026 EPS Calculation

Combining actual Q1–Q3 results with the updated Q4 forecast:

$$\text{FY2026 Total EPS} = \text{Q1-Q3 Actuals (\$1.88)} + \text{Q4 Forecast (\$1.35–\$1.55)} = \mathbf{\$3.23 – \$3.43}$$

  • Pre-Announcement Consensus: ~$2.15
  • Post-Announcement Forecast: ~$3.30 (+53% upgrade in FY2026 earnings power)

4. Fair Value Range Based on FY2026 EPS

Applying standard price-to-earnings (P/E) multiple frameworks to our updated $3.30 FY2026 EPS baseline:

Valuation Tier Applied P/E Fair Value Rationale
Deep Discount / Bear 10x $33.00 Reflects ongoing governance reviews and accounting overhangs.
Base Hardware / Systems Multiple 14x $46.20 Matches standard server integrator multiples (Dell / HPE peer baseline).
Growth / Peer Re-Rating 18x $59.40 Reflects high-margin liquid cooling leadership and $60B+ order backlog.

Takeaway

Using actual FY2026 execution plus the Q4 preliminary margin upside:

  • At ~$25.00–$28.00, SMCI is trading at roughly 7.5x–8.5x FY2026 earnings.
  • If the August 11 earnings call confirms that Q4's 15%–17% gross margin is repeatable, a baseline peer multiple re-rating puts fair value comfortably in the $45.00–$60.00 range.

Projecting for FY2027

1. Key Inputs from the Latest Announcement

  • Q4 FY26 Preliminary Revenue: $11.0B (at the low end of $11.0B–$12.5B guidance).
  • Gross Margin: 15.0% – 17.0% (vs. previous guidance of 8.2%–8.4%).
  • New Orders Intake: >$60 Billion in Q4 alone, pushing backlog to record highs.
  • Share Count: ~580M to 600M diluted shares (reflecting recent capital raises).

2. Updated Earnings Power Model (FY2027 Run-Rate)

Previously, Wall Street modeled SMCI as a low-margin assembler (~8% to 10% gross margins) producing thin operating margins (~4% to 5%).

If SMCI maintains a 12% to 14% normalized gross margin (conservatively assuming Q4's 15%–17% was a favorable mix peak that settles slightly lower), its bottom-line earnings power expands dramatically.

Scenario Modeling (FY2027 Revenue & EPS)

Metric Conservative Case Base Case Bull Case
Annualized Revenue $48.0 Billion $55.0 Billion $65.0 Billion
Gross Margin % 11.5% 13.5% 15.5%
Operating Expenses ~$2.4 Billion ~$2.7 Billion ~$3.1 Billion
Operating Margin % ~6.5% ~8.6% ~10.7%
Net Income (after tax) ~$2.4 Billion ~$3.6 Billion ~$5.2 Billion
Implied Diluted EPS ~$4.00 ~$6.00 ~$8.60

3. Fair Value Target Matrix

Historically, SMCI trades at a discount to peers like Dell and HPE due to corporate governance overhangs and margin volatility.

  • Historical/Discounted P/E Multiplier: 8x – 10x forward earnings
  • Peer Group Benchmark (Dell/HPE): 12x – 15x forward earnings
  • Pure-Play AI Growth Multiplier: 16x – 20x forward earnings

Applying these P/E multiples to our Base Case EPS of ~$6.00:

Fair Value Range (Base Case EPS ~$6.00)
 ├── Bear / Deep Discount (8x P/E):   $48.00  (Governance & Execution Discount)
 ├── Mid / Base Case (12x P/E):        $72.00  (Standard Systems Integrator Multiple)
 └── Bull / Peer Match (16x P/E):      $96.00  (Dell/HPE Benchmark Realignment)

Target Valuation Summary

  • Prior Stock Price (Pre-Announcement): ~$24.00 – $25.50
  • Post-Announcement Pre-Market Price: ~$30.00 – $31.00 (+18% to +20% jump)
  • Estimated Fundamental Fair Value: $65.00 – $75.00
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u/AInvestor_2025 — 29 days ago

SMCI Business Update on Taiwan

https://www.supermicro.com/en/news/taiwan-business-update-2026-07-01

Super Micro Computer, Inc.
980 Rock Avenue
San Jose, CA 95131, USA

July 1, 2026

Dear Valued Customers and Partners,

I am reaching out regarding this week’s events in Taiwan and recent media coverage about shipments of Supermicro products. We deeply value the trust you place in us to meet your AI, cloud, and enterprise infrastructure needs, and believe it is important that you hear directly from me.

Over the past few days, the media has reported on a Taiwanese investigation relating to Supermicro. First and foremost, I want to emphasize that the relevant authorities have confirmed that Supermicro is not a target of this investigation. In fact, we have been providing information to and working in cooperation with Taiwanese authorities for several months to assist in their efforts. We highlighted aspects of our collaboration in a May 28, 2026 press release, which you can read here.

Let me also correct one point that has been widely misreported: Supermicro’s offices in Taiwan were not raided by any government authorities. Rather, this week’s events reflect our ongoing collaboration with Taiwanese authorities. Here are the facts:

  • On Monday (6/29/26), four Supermicro Taiwan employees were detained for questioning in connection with the Taiwanese investigation regarding Supermicro’s sale of products to a technology company in Taiwan.
  • We coordinated with authorities to provide access to those employees’ desks and electronic devices.
  • Two of the four employees have been detained pending a hearing, and the other two have been released on bail.
  • We have zero tolerance for anyone who violates the law or our internal policies, and the four employees were immediately placed on administrative leave pending the conclusion of the Taiwanese investigation.

We do not have the full visibility of the investigation as it is ongoing. Most importantly, I want to assure you this has absolutely no impact on our ability to serve and support you. Our team remains 100% focused on execution—delivering the highest-performance, most reliable datacenter infrastructure solutions and driving the first-to-market and first-to-online innovations you have always expected from us.

Supermicro remains committed to protect US interests and to safeguarding our advanced technologies and intellectual property for the benefit of our customers, our partners, our company and our industry. While managing a complex global supply chain and a multi-tier distribution model is an industry-wide challenge, we maintain a robust compliance program. As part of this, we continue to work closely with government authorities, external advisors, and other stakeholders to strengthen our safeguards, prevent illicit technology diversion, and navigate evolving threats and industry risks.

As always, thank you for your strong partnership and support. If you have further questions, please reach out to your typical company contact.

Sincerely,

Matt Thauberger
Chief Revenue Officer
Supermicro

u/AInvestor_2025 — 2 months ago

Valuing SMCI with the $39B orders and dilution

Ran the following prompt through ChatGPT to attempt to value SuperMicro after the $39B orders and the dilution. Results are below and fairly similar across different LLMs.

Base case (current, without $39B orders): $40-66

Moderate case (moderate success with DCBBS): $62-103

Bull case: $93-155

If Smci really has $39b in orders and a portion of them is higher margin DCBBS, how might their revenue and eps look? Can you do a reasonable projection, compare before and after, as well as do a valuation analysis vs. it's peers?

Yes. If the reported $39B of recent orders is real and if a meaningful percentage shifts toward DCBBS (Data Center Building Block Solutions) rather than just low-margin GPU server assembly, the earnings power could be materially higher than what most investors currently model. But the key variable is margin, not revenue. (TNW | The heart of tech)

Let's build a reasonable framework.

Where SMCI stands today

Current FY2026 guidance:

  • Revenue: $38.9B–$40.4B
  • Q3 FY26 revenue: $10.2B
  • Q3 gross margin: 9.9% (recovered from 6.3% prior quarter)
  • Q4 gross margin guide roughly: 8.2%-8.4%
  • DCBBS is growing and management specifically cited it as a margin driver. (Super Micro Computer)

The market's concern is that SMCI historically operates more like a systems integrator than a software company. Revenue can explode while margins remain thin.

Scenario 1: Base Case (No major DCBBS mix shift)

Assumptions:

  • FY27 revenue = $45B
  • Gross margin = 10%
  • Operating margin = 6%
  • Net margin ≈ 4.5%

Result:

Item FY27
Revenue $45B
Net income $2.0B
Shares (post dilution) 760M
EPS ~$2.65

This is roughly what many skeptics think happens: revenue grows but profits remain mediocre.

Scenario 2: Moderate DCBBS Success

Suppose:

  • 25% of revenue becomes higher-margin DCBBS
  • Gross margin rises to 12%
  • Operating margin rises to 8%

Revenue:

  • FY27 = $50B

Results:

Item FY27
Revenue $50B
Operating income $4.0B
Net income $3.1B
Shares 760M
EPS ~$4.10

Now we're in a completely different earnings regime.

Scenario 3: Bull Case (DCBBS becomes meaningful)

Assumptions:

  • $39B orders largely convert over 12-18 months
  • Revenue reaches $55-60B
  • DCBBS becomes 35-40% of mix
  • Gross margin = 14%
  • Operating margin = 10%

Results:

Item FY27
Revenue $60B
Operating income $6.0B
Net income $4.7B
Shares 760M
EPS ~$6.20

This is the scenario many bulls are implicitly underwriting.

Why DCBBS matters so much

A traditional AI server sale:

  • GPU
  • CPU
  • Memory
  • Chassis

The GPU vendor (NVDA) captures most economics.

DCBBS adds:

  • Complete rack
  • Cooling infrastructure
  • Power systems
  • Networking
  • Integration
  • Data-center software
  • Installation

Management has explicitly highlighted DCBBS as a margin-expansion driver. (The Motley Fool)

Every additional dollar sold around the GPU generally carries much better economics than the GPU itself.

A simple illustration:

Product Gross Margin
Basic GPU server 8-10%
Rack-scale solution 12-15%
Full DCBBS deployment 15-20%+

The exact numbers aren't public, but the direction is what matters.

Valuation vs Peers

Let's compare forward multiples.

Dell

  • Forward PE ~15-18x range historically
  • Operating margins ~7-8%

HPE

  • Forward PE ~10-14x
  • Slower growth

Arista

  • Forward PE ~30-40x
  • Premium margins and networking exposure

Nvidia

  • Forward PE ~25-35x
  • Much higher margins

SMCI probably deserves somewhere between Dell and Arista.

Not Dell because:

  • Growth is much faster.

Not Arista because:

  • Margins are far lower.

Reasonable range:

Bear multiple

15x EPS

Base multiple

20x EPS

Bull multiple

25x EPS

Valuation Matrix

Base Case

EPS = $2.65

Multiple Value
15x $40
20x $53
25x $66

Moderate DCBBS

EPS = $4.10

Multiple Value
15x $62
20x $82
25x $103

Bull Case

EPS = $6.20

Multiple Value
15x $93
20x $124
25x $155

What the market is debating right now

The market generally believes the revenue.

The debate is whether SMCI can sustain:

  • 12-14% gross margins
  • DCBBS mix expansion
  • Working-capital discipline
  • Cash generation

Remember they are raising $7B because fulfilling these orders requires enormous inventory purchases and they have already consumed significant cash. (Crypto Briefing)

So the real question isn't:

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Management is already guiding around that level. (Super Micro Computer)

The real question is:

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If the answer is yes because DCBBS becomes a large part of the mix, then EPS could plausibly move into the $4-6+ range, making the stock potentially worth $80-150/share depending on execution and market multiples. If margins remain near traditional server-integrator levels, fair value is much closer to $40-60/share.

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u/AInvestor_2025 — 2 months ago

### Positive Signposts (Turning Around / Improving Fundamentals)

- **Revenue Growth & Demand**: Strong 123% YoY growth driven by AI GPU platforms (>80% of revenue). Record-high backlog with significant deferred revenue expected to convert as customer sites become ready. Q4 guidance: $11–12.5B; FY2026: $38.9–40.4B. Robust demand in NeoCloud, sovereign AI, agentic AI, enterprise, and storage.

- **Gross Margin Recovery**: Non-GAAP gross margin reached **10.1%** (58% sequential improvement from 6.4% in Q2), driven by improved customer/product mix, lower tariffs/expedite costs, and reduced inventory reserves. Non-GAAP operating margin rose to 7.3% from 4.5%. Management committed to a sustainable **double-digit gross margin model**. Q4 guidance: 8.2–8.4%.

- **Customer & Revenue Diversification**:

- Enterprise channel: **$2.8B** (28% of total, up from 15% in Q2; +46% YoY, +45% QoQ).

- Only two customers >10% of revenue (one at 27%, one at 10%) — improved concentration.

- Strong Europe and Rest-of-World growth.

- **Strategic Shift to Higher-Value Solutions**: Accelerating DCBPS (racks, liquid cooling, power, networking, software, services). Software revenue >$46M (sharp acceleration). Expected to contribute 20–25%+ of future profits, supporting better margins and stickiness. U.S. manufacturing expansion and automation for improved yields.

### Warning Flags & Detailed Mitigations

**1. Revenue Miss & Timing/Visibility Risks**

Sequential decline and miss due to customer deployment delays (power/networking infrastructure) and persistent component shortages. This creates lumpiness and lower near-term predictability.

**Mitigation**: Management views these as temporary timing issues rather than demand weakness. Record backlog and strong orders remain intact, with deferred revenue poised to convert once sites are ready. No lost customers or canceled orders were mentioned. Q4 and full-year guidance reflect confidence in a rebound.

**2. Cash Flow & Balance Sheet Pressure**

Operating cash flow of **-$6.6B**, FCF ~-$6.7B, net debt rising to ~$7.5B, cash at $1.3B, and cash conversion cycle worsening to 106 days (inventory at $11.1B). Rising interest expense.

**Mitigation**: The cash burn was largely deliberate — driven by ~$10B accounts payable normalization (paying suppliers faster to secure allocations) and inventory build to buffer shortages. Strong collections helped, with $2.6B AR reduction in the quarter plus an additional **$2.7B received in early April**. The company has multiple liquidity tools in place, including U.S. and new **$1.8B Taiwan revolving credit facilities** and non-recourse AR sales. Positive net income and improving margins provide a base for normalization as supply stabilizes and mix shifts toward higher-value enterprise/DCBPS revenue.

**3. Supply Chain & Execution Risks**

Ongoing shortages in CPUs, GPUs, memory, and SSDs are expected to continue constraining shipments and potentially pressuring margins.

**Mitigation**: SMCI has built record production capacity (>6,000 high-end racks per month) through expansions in Taiwan, Malaysia, Netherlands, and a major new U.S. DCBPS campus. Design-for-manufacturing and automation initiatives are improving yields and reducing costs. These operational enhancements, combined with strong vendor relationships (NVIDIA, AMD, Intel), help secure supply and support faster delivery.

**4. Regulatory/Legal Overhang**

DOJ indictment of former employees/contractors related to alleged illegal shipments. Ongoing investigation.

**Mitigation**: The company itself is **not a defendant nor a target**. SMCI has a zero-tolerance policy, immediately terminated involved parties, and is fully cooperating. An independent investigation by the board (with top forensic and legal firms) is underway, and the compliance program is being significantly strengthened. Management emphasized that customer relationships remain largely unaffected (“most customers feel very solid”) and highlighted the push for expanded U.S. manufacturing as part of long-term risk reduction.

### Overall Takeaway

The earnings call showed credible positive momentum on **gross margins**, **enterprise diversification**, and the shift to higher-value DCBPS/software solutions — clear signs of a maturing, higher-quality business model amid continued AI tailwinds. Revenue growth is robust year-over-year and supported by a strong backlog.

Near-term challenges (revenue timing, cash burn/leverage, supply constraints, and legal matters) are real and contribute to volatility, but management provided substantive mitigations: temporary nature of many issues, strong underlying demand, liquidity facilities, operational scaling, and proactive governance improvements. These risks appear largely transitional in a hyper-growth environment.

Q4 FY2026 results (expected late May/early June) will be key to assessing working capital normalization and sustained margin progress.

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u/AInvestor_2025 — 4 months ago

I managed to get access to Tegus which provides interviews with industry folks on any companies of interest. These can be the ex-employees, partners, customers of the particular company under study. The interviews, including the late April ones on Supermicro are hugely positive. All are saying demand are exceeding (or at least meeting) expectations and that Supermicro is differentiating by speed and customisability. The interviewees could not comment much on margins, but generally ASPs has increased. Unfortunately, I am not able to share snapshots here, but these seem like credible signposts that 5 May will be good, at least on the revenue side.

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u/AInvestor_2025 — 4 months ago