u/Accomplished-Day1614

A few weeks ago I went through all of DM’s public statements and interviews and noticed how she kept volunteering details to police before investigators had even discovered them. That’s why I found this video so interesting.

Today I watched Parts 1 & 2 by the creator of the video(s). He does a really detailed breakdown while physically watching and listening to her actual police interview on screen the whole time.

Important note: He’s not a professional statement analyst. He openly says he studied it several years ago, thinks about it constantly, and is just an amateur giving his best effort. But his breakdown is surprisingly methodical & very interesting.

I’ve attached slides that summarize the key points he makes (these are direct from what he states in the video not assumptions).

Standout points for me:

• The “obviously yes, we were drinking” qualifier early on
• The pronoun drop and rushing past the Sigma Chi party
• Switching from using Kaylee’s actual name to just “her”once the timeline hits the critical 4:00 a.m. window
• The sudden tense break: she’s in historical present (“I hear her go upstairs…”) then hits the investigator with “You can hear like everything” (he calls this a “terrible sign”)
• Other flags like “nothing weird at all,” “I didn’t know what else to do,” leakage comments, and the overall lack of warmth/experiential memory

Whether you think it’s all trauma affecting her wording or something more, it’s one of the most thorough statement analyses I’ve seen on this case.

Has anyone else watched it yet? What stood out to you most, the pronoun shift, the tense break, the “obviously” qualifier, or something else?

If you haven’t seen it, I highly suggest you watch and then let’s talk!

https://youtu.be/lZMfWVOdIbc?si=NgawaZepLqSTDN5k

People keep repeating the same claim: “Police only knew about the late-night communication between JD and Kaylee because Steve Goncalves had access to some of Kaylee’s messages and AG sent them over.” And since AG never mentioned the 17-minute call it must have never happened, which is not true.

That claim is false. The police reports themselves prove it. Here are the actual supplemental reports:

1. November 13, 2022 — MPD Supplemental Report #47 (Det. Lawrence Mowery) - Mowery forensically extracted data from the phones of Dylan Mortensen, Bethany Funke, Jack Decouer, Emily Alandt, and Mazie Chapin using UFED Cellebrite v7.58.0.172 and Magnet Axiom v6.5.0.32778. Signed consent forms were obtained. Data saved to MPD’s secure forensic lab.

Note: I do not know why the MPD Report starts out with on November 13, 2022 but the report wasn’t written until November 30, 2022. That would be a question for MPD, NOT ME.

2. November 13, 2022 - Video Interview — JD himself voluntarily told detectives he woke up that morning and found 6 missed calls from Kaylee and 3 from Maddie between approximately 2:40 AM and 2:57 AM, including a FaceTime attempt, plus a text from Kaylee about having his vape.

Note: the actual record shows the vape text was sent at 2:15 AM — not 2:45 AM as JD stated on 11/13. A 30-minute discrepancy on a specific detail he volunteered unprompted. By November 17 he tells VanLeuven the count was approximately 7 from Kaylee — which happens to match the actual forensic record of 7.

3. Same day (11/17) — ISP Supplemental Report #0168 (Sgt. Mike VanLeuven)

Sgt. VanLeuven confronts JD using the phone records:

“I noted in looking at phone records but there had been several text messages the night before between JD and Kaylee. The last text message was from Kaylee to Jack at 2:15 AM telling him that she had his vape and that he could come pick it up at her house. I advised JD that there appeared to be a telephone call at 2:26 AM between JD and Kaylee, that lasted approximately 17 minutes the night before.”

JD acknowledged the call but said he didn’t recall it and couldn’t explain it. He suggested maybe in his sleep he hit the side button thinking it was an alarm.

This is exactly why on that same day Det. Mowery wrote the following in Report #22:

4. November 17, 2022 — MPD Supplemental Report #22 (AG Files) - While describing the files AG sent, which included an image from the Spokesman Review showing a nearby camera, text messages between Kaylee and JD Decouer, text messages between Kaylee and her Uber driver Eric, a recent phone call list, and video from the Grub Truck Twitch.tv feed — Det. Mowery explicitly writes:

“I attached these files to the case file. The communication between Kaylee and JD was located on JD’s phone examination and the Twitch feed was previously downloaded.”

The report itself tells you the Kaylee & Jack communication came from the officer physically viewing JD’s phone during the 11/17 interview. Jack’s own phone not just Kaylee’s side via the family.

4. Official timeline — transcribed from the MPD/ISP Excel file sent to the Latah County Prosecuting Attorney’s office in November 2023

Sources the 2:26 AM call lasting 17 minutes and 4 seconds, plus every unanswered call and FaceTime that followed, directly to “JD’s Cell Data.”

Not the Goncalves family files. Not Kaylee’s phone. Jack’s own extracted cell data.

Bottom line:

JD’s phone was extracted with consent on 11/13. JD himself reported the missed calls and vape text during his interview that afternoon. Report #22 confirms the communications were pulled directly from JD’s phone examination. Alivia’s files were supplemental, they did not replace the forensic data from JD’s own device.

Arguing “AG never mentioned the 17-minute call” misses the point entirely. The police already had JD’s side of the records independently. The call is sourced to his own cell data. He acknowledged it. He couldn’t explain it.

Here is the Google Drive that include all of the sources and also the interview video:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1B3KhO8z8FMNVDHwvUs304yioz4x-UjWe

This is absolutely wild! The Defense requested independent testing on Dylan’s coat & blanket… Then Talbott immediately pulled both items and sprayed them with Bluestar on June 8, 2023 (8 months later) and before turning them over to the defense as ordered.

Direct from the ISP forensic file: Rylene Nowlin receives a call from Talbott on (06/08/2023):

“Received call re: additional items for testing. Per Talbott the defense requested items be sent to a private lab. He pulled the requested items and he sprayed them with bluestar. Two items, a coat and a blanket both from Dylan had a positive reaction.”

Note: Talbott also confirmed that both items tested positive with Bluestar (a presumptive test for blood).

Rylene Nowlin immediately responded:

“I asked what the request for examination was and he stated foreign DNA. I expressed application of bluestar on these types of items was not the ideal first step and I would need to speak with my DNA unit prior to submission to see what could still be done on these items.”

After Rylene Nowlin received both items from Talbott on 06/14/2023 she immediately called Bill Thompson:

“Per Bill these were items identified by the defense expert Matt Noedel during his crime scene examination. The defense provided a list of the items they wanted sent to Noedel’s lab and their office and D2 investigations discussed and decided it would be beneficial for Det. Talbott to first examine the items and do a presumptive test.”

Rylene warned about the serious limitations:

“I stated we are limited in what we can now do. Bluestar is a chemical designed for use in crime scenes after all other testing is done. 1 stated it has poor specificity for blood so it is not typically used in lab as a presumptive test. Studies have shown Bluestar does inhibit presumptive blood tests performed in lab like pheno and o-tol. We can examine for blood but it is likely any stains we test will be negative and there is no way to determine at this point if there is blood on the item. Also discussed DNA. I said there are studies that say Bluestar has no negative impact on DNA. However, those studies were done with undiluted blood in concentrations known to produce a full DNA profile. Studies with diluted blood are less certain. Most obtain no DNA profile but unknown if that is because stain is so dilute or Bluestar is causing an issue. The application of the liquid Bluestar to these items also dilutes any stains/ DNA that may be present. I was not able to find studies on Bluestar's impact on forensic lighting techniques like IR and ALS. I said if we don't see anything with our lighting techniques again I could not say if that was because of the Bluestar or because nothing is present on the item.”

Then Talbott calls Rylene Nowlin: “Called to ask if we had any questions or needed anything additional from them at this time. I said I talked to Bill and Ashley this morning to discuss the limitation we have given these items have been processed with Bluestar and I did have some questions for them. I asked the following of Det. Talbott and listed are his responses:

Were photos taken of the items prior to Bluestar application?--No, unsure if Moscow did that:

Were photos taken of the Bluestar reaction?-- Yes but they did not turn out;

Were gloves and mask worn while handling items?-- Yes;

Was examination surface sprayed with bleach and clean paper placed and changed between items?- Yes;

Were the areas of fluorescence circled?--Blanket yes, coat was zipper could be reacting with the metal;

Was a sterile or single use marker used to mark on the item?--Yes;

Were both sides of the blanket sprayed?--Yes;

Was the inside and the outside of the coat sprayed?-- Yes;

They stated these items were ones that were deemed personal items and released back to Dylan. The court ordered they get all items from the crime scene that had been released back into custody I asked if Dylan had washed the items while they were back in Dylan’s custody. They said they did not know.”

So let’s take a second to think about this!

Both items were NEVER sprayed nor tested at the original crime scene in November 2022. They sat untouched for 8 months and were possibly given back to Dylan! Then only after the defense asked for independent testing by Matt Noedel did Talbott pull them and spray them with Bluestar which completely ruined them from being fully tested! Why spray them after the defense asked to examine them? What the hell is going on here!? Why didn’t Anne Taylor go nuclear on this?

This isn’t “routine crime scene processing.” This is police altering potentially exculpatory evidence after the defense formally requested to test it themselves.

Google Drive with the full ISP reports:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14kz\_lKTzfil54XB4FhXN50ik4Y9xvwfd