u/AdEastern612

If you don't know (somehow) they buffed a bunch of characters melee's to make them far better at tracking their opponents.

here's why i think that sucks ass even ignoring bs stuff like monoma:

1. removal of skill expression. they've been doing this for a few seasons but a lot of characters are having the skillful part of their kit gutted, started all the way back with shinso's nerf, making him a very 1-2 character instead of an actual combo character. than hawk's alpha buff, than mirko's beta buff for some reason, now we have make everyone have a good melee buff, which i hate. not only does it make some characters way better, like ibara or rapid all might, but also it makes it so activating tunnings like acceleration, or getting people away with a melee if you're out of ammo is nothing. i really hate how that's become the norm.

2. removes the concept of "good melee" characters. hawks even before heavy nerfs, rapid deku, kendo. these were all characters with really good melees (ignoring tunning or loops, that's a separate issue) specifically hawks and kendo made really good use of it, by having another close range option that is fast. now they are on par with other character, and while their melee's are still good, it also makes the cast really boring when no bad melee's exist. like a melee is a must have instead of a sometimes needed.

3. didn't fix anything. this change didn't fix any busted characters, nor buff any bad characters into being good, it just buffed everyone into being better and being easier. which is a really BAD choice. it makes the game feel less diverse when everyone must have a good melee, which is the entire fun part of the game, i loved the fact that some characters have really good, situationally good, or bad melee's now everyone is basically in the really good category, and that's not very interesting, the entire reason i even got into this game was because literally every character play's differently to some degree even if they are the same character. this isn't what's gonna help the game, if nothing else this will kill it faster.

tldr: it made melee's easy and unfun to use as someone who uses melee's often.

S: no can do, greeting

A: bow, at attention, that's the point, taunt

B: clap your hands

C: roger that (the cane just disappearing is really annoying to me)

most ragebait possible: no can do

S: roger that, enthusiastic

A: that's the point (cause you can leave the end screen and that's funny) get ready

B: clap your hands, triumphant, fearless

C: greeting, bow, at attention

S: clap your hands, duty

A: roger that, bow, that's the point

B: no can do, at attention

C: greeting, at attention again (fluttering in the wind), that's the point again (resolution)

S: no can do

A: clap your hands, bow (you can make him say yay)

B: greeting, is that all you got?, that's the point (not iida enough)

C: roger that, at attention, follow me (the fact it ends instead of looping ruins it for me)

S: young lady

A: greeting, bow, that's the point, whole hearted devotion

B: no can do, clap your hands, at attention

C: roger that, Uwabami Agency (which is my personal least favorite emote in the game, but at least it's got decent animation, so c tier)

i literally JUST started the match. Byking FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME.

I love using rapid hawks, he's really fun, and i do like this buff because it makes his alpha usable, but the range it has along with the buff is way too much, it needs a decent range nerf on the track version, because i have watched people stand in a corner and spam alpha as hawks multiple times.

This time you don't need a 4 page essay in order to decipher what i was thinking, plus some fixed placement based on feedback, ballence was not taken into account, how diffrent are they compared to themselves, the rest of the cast, and how accurate are they to the anime version, heance why clustergo is so low.

The only reason i have the og's as a tier list is because I'm doing this on mobile.

As for tsu and twice, they're in their own tier because they're quirksets haven't released yet, but generally twice definitely needed one, and tsu definitely did not need one.

by luck i mean you need to actually get into combat early enough, because some characters can't do a bunch of kos in endgame easily or can't chase at all.

i genuinely don't know how they made a character so shit to fight. why does he erase quirks on his gamma? because. why can he hold you for a full fucking seconds with his alpha? yeah. why does he have no cd on any of his moves? fuck you thats why. free escape. free movement. literally the peak of byking being shit at making things fun to fight. he should at most be able to hold you for maybe a quarter or at best half of a second with alpha. his gamma just doesn't need the erasure or multiple hit mechanic. and this is ignoring the storm and monoma bs he can do.

Hear me out, removing the green civilians would:

Completely remove storm camping with t.fortune (which would still need a nerf)

Make more randoms get team heals cause I've watched them run away from green ones to blue ones.

And make me actually never have to waist time reviving them for the worst thing possible.

Now what should we replace them with: easy. Make them all kota, now the games perfectly ballenced.

I am personally not a big fan of how they made clustergo, at least for a technical role he feels boring. so i wanted to make something that is as chaotic as possible with my version, and giving him too much movement. all numbers are just guesses as to what they should be.

quirk skill alpha: clusters:

very low damage attack, about the same as overhauls. 100% ammo uses 0.5% per shot. shoots 1-2 shots very fast and can be used while attacking with other moves. restores 50% of ammo over 1 second. inaccurate. 0 dp

this is meant to be his most technical move out of all of them, you can use them at any time, unless you are in hit stun from an enemy or are downed. its meant to be chip damage when someone's trying to escape or meant to bring out more damage of the moves. a more extreme version of rapidgoes alpha.

quirk skill beta: Nitro blast: medium damage. (about 100 ish to 130 at lv 9?) close range attack, once you hit it you get knocked back in the opposite direction you attacked from, if you hit a wall you get implanted into there for half a second if its not a breakable surface. 2-3 ammo depending on level. and stops all of your momentum when you input it. 501 dp

its kinda similar to his current beta but not long range, because the entire cluster trap thing seems kind of pointless to me. this is probably the easiest move to land out of the 3.

quirk skill gamma: cluster rocket/howitzer impact: cluster:

rocket: first bakugo charges up for a second, then creates an explosion behind him, doing low, 30-45 damage. after that he launches himself faster than rapid mights beta, but he cannot shift in any direction, nor stop his movement unless he uses his beta, also does not send far if aimed directly upwards. 1-2 ammo depending on level, dash decreases in distance at some levels. 501 dp

Howitzer impact: cluster: if you manage to make contact with anyone after launching with rocket, you will initiate this move, grabbing them high into the sky and then throwing them downwards with a large explosion at the bottom. 80-100-80 damage for the lift, and another 100-110-80 for the ground explosion, if you encounter a ceiling the move ends early but the missing damage gets put into the explosion. dp: 501 on explosion, 250 on the lift up.

unironically much harder to hit than strikagos gamma but does less damage. this move is meant to be really really chaotic at the start of the game, it sends you flying but its extremely hard to hit unless you spam your body into a enclosed area, which it wouldn't be bad at. but there's no damage resistance, (there is super armor but only halfway into the lift up) as it goes on it gets less range at lv 4, then another ammo at lv 9 but even less range, the reason why i think it should get less is because this also implants you into the ground if you hit the wall, floor or celling without having someone in your grasp. and that makes you perfectly still for half a second.

why do i think this is any better?: always wanted clustergo to be just insane and fling himself everywhere cause that's what made his fight so cool. this is what i think would be able to emulate that in the game without being too broken.

is this good? is this bad? do you have any feedback? im curious, this was also a lot to read so if you did, thank you. i spent an actual real life hour on this because i need to go outside.

Why did the game softlock, i know about the other reas ons but he literally just played one cryobrain, is he cheating?