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Tell us how would you finish the Dragon Ball Super story?

After the appearing of Black Frieza, what do you think it's the best possible ending to the DGS story, you can use any character or invent a new one, everything you can imagine!

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u/Alive_Adagio6014 — 5 days ago

My Pitch for the Final Arc of Dragon Ball Super: Fixing Gohan, Canonicity for SSJ4/Dragon Fist, and the Ultimate Villain

SCRIPT PROPOSAL: THE DESTINY OF THE GODS (THE FINAL SAGA)

Introductory Chronological Note (Timeline Placement)

This story takes place after the Granolah Saga, which concludes with the appearance of Black Frieza. He demonstrates that he is no longer the bloodthirsty villain of the past, leaving Goku and Vegeta alive despite defeating them in a single blow, as his new ultimate objective is to become a true God. For this reason, he sets out on a quest to find the Super Dragon Balls.

This entire storyline has another key condition: the Golden Frieza Saga never existed. Instead, during the events of the other Dragon Ball Super sagas, Frieza remained trapped in Earth's Hell. The suffering he was forced to endure there, combined with his eventual resurrection and 10 years of intense training, resulted in a much more mature and less murderous Frieza.

PART 1: THE TSUFURU VENGEANCE SAGA (THE RETURN OF BABY)

Act I: The Parasite from the Past

While Frieza operates in the shadows, peace on Earth is shattered when an unknown biological entity arrives on the planet. This is Baby, an artificial lifeform created with the DNA of the King of the Tsufuru (Tuffles), the ancient inhabitants of Planet Plant. Decades ago, the Saiyans invaded their home, massacred their people, and renamed the land Planet Vegeta. Baby has awakened with a single objective hardcoded into his genetic blueprint: to extinguish every last Saiyan and rebuild his empire.

Act II: The Fall of Earth

Instead of a frontal assault, Baby acts as a silent parasite. He infects ordinary humans first and, one by one, takes control of the minds of Goten, Trunks, Gohan, and Piccolo. The entire Earth becomes a hive mind under his command. His masterstroke arrives when he manages to possess Vegeta. By taking over his body, Baby not only accesses Saiyan genetics but also Vegeta's devastating Ultra Ego. With the Ki of Destruction (Hakai) completely unleashed from Vegeta's moral restraints, a ruthless creature is born, willing to destroy everything in its path.

Act III: The Savage Awakening and the Clash of Doctrines

Baby-Vegeta begins a crusade of absolute destruction, tearing through entire galaxies and reducing half the universe to ashes in his quest to eradicate Goku's lineage. Seeing Earth and the cosmos decimated, Goku is forced to break his logical limits. The conventional Ultra Instinct, rooted in absolute calm, is not enough to stop the brutality of a possessed Ultra Ego.

To win, Goku must embrace his roots. He manages to channel the primitive power of the Great Ape (Ozaru) and seal it within his humanoid body, unlocking the legendary Super Saiyan 4, but refined and enhanced with Divine Ki and the precision of Mastered Ultra Instinct. With wild black hair, crimson fur, and the silver eyes of the gods, Goku unleashes a titanic battle that shakes reality itself, ultimately defeating Baby and freeing Vegeta—though at a catastrophic cost: the universe is left in ruins.

PART 2: THE ZARAMA SAGA AND THE FINAL JUDGMENT

Act I: The Emperor’s Plan and the Cosmic Rupture

With Earth and half the universe destroyed by the war against Baby, Shenron's Dragon Balls are insufficient to repair the damage. The Z-Fighters decide to venture into deep space to find the planet-sized Super Dragon Balls. It is here that their paths cross with Black Frieza once again.

The emperor, who has spent all this time gathering them behind the scenes, reappears with a terrifying level of maturity—the product of a full decade of mental and physical training inside an extraterrestrial Chamber of Time. His ultimate goal is to use the Super Dragon Balls to make the definitive wish: to become an absolute God ruling over even Zeno-sama.

Act II: The Awakening of the Original Deity

Goku (SSJ4 UI), Vegeta (recovering with Ultra Ego), a properly developed Beast Gohan, and Black Frieza collide in a massive four-way battle for control of the giant spheres. The clash of these absurdly broken divine powers creates a distortion in space-time. During the chaos, a stray, overpowered blast directly impacts one of the Super Dragon Balls, shattering it into pieces.

The destruction of the sphere triggers a chain reaction that causes the others to explode—not to grant a wish, but to shatter a prison. From the remnants of the fifth-dimensional cosmos emerges Zarama, the ancestral Dragon God and creator of the Dragon Balls. Zarama was never a mere servant of wishes; he was a deity so ancient and dangerous that he was sealed inside his own creation. Free from his chains, Zarama decides to eradicate and rule over all universes, displaying a power so immense that it genuinely threatens the throne of the Omni-King.

Act III: The Ultimate Alliance and the Sacrifice

To prevent the end of existence, the most unthinkable alliance in history is forged: Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Black Frieza against Zarama.

  • The Fall of Gohan: The battle is an absolute slaughter. Beast Gohan is the first to fall; despite his overwhelming raw potential fueled by rage, his historical lack of consistent training catches up to him. He runs completely out of stamina, being logically eliminated from the fight.
  • The Angel-Level Vegito: Desperate, Goku and Vegeta use the Potara earrings to bring forth the ultimate warrior: Vegito SSJ4 Ultra Instinct + Perfected Ultra Ego. This entity possesses power comparable to the Angels, but the divine energy overload is so staggering that the fusion faces a strict time limit of only 5 minutes.
  • The Climax and Frieza's Redemption: Vegito and Black Frieza coordinate a desperate assault, but Zarama seems invincible. The fusion expires, leaving Goku and Vegeta completely defenseless. In that final split second, Black Frieza demonstrates his evolution as a character: he understands that selfishness is useless if there is no universe left to rule. With a bitter smirk and using the absolute last of his strength, Frieza lunges at Zarama, trapping him from behind in a suicidal full-nelson grip, completely immobilizing him.
  • The Masterstroke: Frieza screams at his eternal rival to fire. Goku, gathering the entire energy of his soul and his Saiyan heritage, executes the mythical and devastating Dragon Fist, making it canon for the very first time. The majestic golden energy dragon pierces through the bodies of both Zarama and Frieza, destroying them both instantly.

Epilogue: The End of an Era

With Zarama's death, the Super Dragon Balls vanish from the multiverse forever, forcing mortals to live with the consequences of their actions and rebuild the universe with their own hands. The extreme toll of using a divine Dragon Fist leaves Goku's body severely damaged, permanently stripping him of the ability to fight at the level of the gods ever again.

The greatest warrior in history smiles, accepts his fate, and retires in peace, leaving the future of the universe in the hands of the next generation.

The End of Dragon Ball.

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u/Alive_Adagio6014 — 5 days ago
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My Pitch for the Final Arc of Dragon Ball Super: Fixing Gohan, Canonicity for SSJ4/Dragon Fist, and the Ultimate Villain.

SCRIPT PROPOSAL: THE DESTINY OF THE GODS (THE FINAL SAGA)

Introductory Chronological Note (Timeline Placement)

This story takes place after the Granolah Saga, which concludes with the appearance of Black Frieza. He demonstrates that he is no longer the bloodthirsty villain of the past, leaving Goku and Vegeta alive despite defeating them in a single blow, as his new ultimate objective is to become a true God. For this reason, he sets out on a quest to find the Super Dragon Balls.

This entire storyline has another key condition: the Golden Frieza Saga never existed. Instead, during the events of the other Dragon Ball Super sagas, Frieza remained trapped in Earth's Hell. The suffering he was forced to endure there, combined with his eventual resurrection and 10 years of intense training, resulted in a much more mature and less murderous Frieza.

PART 1: THE TSUFURU VENGEANCE SAGA (THE RETURN OF BABY)

Act I: The Parasite from the Past

While Frieza operates in the shadows, peace on Earth is shattered when an unknown biological entity arrives on the planet. This is Baby, an artificial lifeform created with the DNA of the King of the Tsufuru (Tuffles), the ancient inhabitants of Planet Plant. Decades ago, the Saiyans invaded their home, massacred their people, and renamed the land Planet Vegeta. Baby has awakened with a single objective hardcoded into his genetic blueprint: to extinguish every last Saiyan and rebuild his empire.

Act II: The Fall of Earth

Instead of a frontal assault, Baby acts as a silent parasite. He infects ordinary humans first and, one by one, takes control of the minds of Goten, Trunks, Gohan, and Piccolo. The entire Earth becomes a hive mind under his command. His masterstroke arrives when he manages to possess Vegeta. By taking over his body, Baby not only accesses Saiyan genetics but also Vegeta's devastating Ultra Ego. With the Ki of Destruction (Hakai) completely unleashed from Vegeta's moral restraints, a ruthless creature is born, willing to destroy everything in its path.

Act III: The Savage Awakening and the Clash of Doctrines

Baby-Vegeta begins a crusade of absolute destruction, tearing through entire galaxies and reducing half the universe to ashes in his quest to eradicate Goku's lineage. Seeing Earth and the cosmos decimated, Goku is forced to break his logical limits. The conventional Ultra Instinct, rooted in absolute calm, is not enough to stop the brutality of a possessed Ultra Ego.

To win, Goku must embrace his roots. He manages to channel the primitive power of the Great Ape (Ozaru) and seal it within his humanoid body, unlocking the legendary Super Saiyan 4, but refined and enhanced with Divine Ki and the precision of Mastered Ultra Instinct. With wild black hair, crimson fur, and the silver eyes of the gods, Goku unleashes a titanic battle that shakes reality itself, ultimately defeating Baby and freeing Vegeta—though at a catastrophic cost: the universe is left in ruins.

PART 2: THE ZARAMA SAGA AND THE FINAL JUDGMENT

Act I: The Emperor’s Plan and the Cosmic Rupture

With Earth and half the universe destroyed by the war against Baby, Shenron's Dragon Balls are insufficient to repair the damage. The Z-Fighters decide to venture into deep space to find the planet-sized Super Dragon Balls. It is here that their paths cross with Black Frieza once again.

The emperor, who has spent all this time gathering them behind the scenes, reappears with a terrifying level of maturity—the product of a full decade of mental and physical training inside an extraterrestrial Chamber of Time. His ultimate goal is to use the Super Dragon Balls to make the definitive wish: to become an absolute God ruling over even Zeno-sama.

Act II: The Awakening of the Original Deity

Goku (SSJ4 UI), Vegeta (recovering with Ultra Ego), a properly developed Beast Gohan, and Black Frieza collide in a massive four-way battle for control of the giant spheres. The clash of these absurdly broken divine powers creates a distortion in space-time. During the chaos, a stray, overpowered blast directly impacts one of the Super Dragon Balls, shattering it into pieces.

The destruction of the sphere triggers a chain reaction that causes the others to explode—not to grant a wish, but to shatter a prison. From the remnants of the fifth-dimensional cosmos emerges Zarama, the ancestral Dragon God and creator of the Dragon Balls. Zarama was never a mere servant of wishes; he was a deity so ancient and dangerous that he was sealed inside his own creation. Free from his chains, Zarama decides to eradicate and rule over all universes, displaying a power so immense that it genuinely threatens the throne of the Omni-King.

Act III: The Ultimate Alliance and the Sacrifice

To prevent the end of existence, the most unthinkable alliance in history is forged: Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, and Black Frieza against Zarama.

  • The Fall of Gohan: The battle is an absolute slaughter. Beast Gohan is the first to fall; despite his overwhelming raw potential fueled by rage, his historical lack of consistent training catches up to him. He runs completely out of stamina, being logically eliminated from the fight.
  • The Angel-Level Vegito: Desperate, Goku and Vegeta use the Potara earrings to bring forth the ultimate warrior: Vegito SSJ4 Ultra Instinct + Perfected Ultra Ego. This entity possesses power comparable to the Angels, but the divine energy overload is so staggering that the fusion faces a strict time limit of only 5 minutes.
  • The Climax and Frieza's Redemption: Vegito and Black Frieza coordinate a desperate assault, but Zarama seems invincible. The fusion expires, leaving Goku and Vegeta completely defenseless. In that final split second, Black Frieza demonstrates his evolution as a character: he understands that selfishness is useless if there is no universe left to rule. With a bitter smirk and using the absolute last of his strength, Frieza lunges at Zarama, trapping him from behind in a suicidal full-nelson grip, completely immobilizing him.
  • The Masterstroke: Frieza screams at his eternal rival to fire. Goku, gathering the entire energy of his soul and his Saiyan heritage, executes the mythical and devastating Dragon Fist, making it canon for the very first time. The majestic golden energy dragon pierces through the bodies of both Zarama and Frieza, destroying them both instantly.

Epilogue: The End of an Era

With Zarama's death, the Super Dragon Balls vanish from the multiverse forever, forcing mortals to live with the consequences of their actions and rebuild the universe with their own hands. The extreme toll of using a divine Dragon Fist leaves Goku's body severely damaged, permanently stripping him of the ability to fight at the level of the gods ever again.

The greatest warrior in history smiles, accepts his fate, and retires in peace, leaving the future of the universe in the hands of the next generation.

The End of Dragon Ball.

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u/Alive_Adagio6014 — 5 days ago