Who wins and what diff??

Orm Scaling

Come up with a reason the rangers could beat the time patrol, lets see who can brain storm the best excuse for the rangers to win

2 High tier OP characters going at it, who do you think clutches the win.

Before we go further, I would like to say, I dnt kno how strong Mephisto is, and no I wont google it, I posted it here to hear you opinions in the fight, coz that boosts engagement, and also promotes a "fair" and "RESPECTFUL" debate 🤦‍♂️, even though most comic fans dnt know the meaning, just coz I think a specific character wins dnt mean I'm "fanboying" or glazing, I have my opinions and you all have yours,

And to clarify something stupid 🤡 said in the last post, I DO NOT DOWN VOTE COMMENTS JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY A CHARACTER WINS OR LOSES, so please keep ur headcanon to yourself, I would rather delete a comment if it's disrespectful, not when they give an opinion.

Anyway who wins 👍

Xeno Vegeta (SDBH) Vs Dr Doom (Marvel Comics)

Who wins.

Biarra (DBS) Vs Ultron (Marvel Comics)

Which robot wins

Lets say the grand priest wanted John dead, Could his probability manipulation help him survive the wrath of the grand priest and survive?? .

I mean we have seen GP erase someone while they where in a separate space-time than him without issue, but Constantine has some high level tomfoolery he uses to trick gods and villains, but when i check it out, it simply makes those gods look dumb to me not make Constantine look smart. .

Some of these gods literally know this man is on BS and they still get tricked by him more than once, with words 🤦‍♂️, but anyway do y'all think this man can bamboozle his way to safety in this situation. .

R1 - The Grand Priest just wants him dead but might change his mind if Constantine has a Good reason for doing whatever he did. .

R2 - GP is severely pissed and doesn't care for no explanations, he just wants Constantine dead. .

Can Constantine survive Round 1 and 2??

Android 16 (DBZ) vs War Machine (Marvel Comics)

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Who wins.

Yamcha (DBS) Vs Shanks (One Piece/even though he is about to be in two pieces ✌)

Who wins

Agnilasa (DBS / Universe 3) Vs Colossus (Marvel Comics / X Men)

Who wins.

Botamo (DBS) Vs Juggernaut (Marvel Comics)

Who wins

Gamisalis (DBS) Vs Invisible Girl (Marvel)

Damom (DBS) Vs Antman (Marvel Comics)

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For those of you dnt know, damom is the tiny insect like creature that pushed piccolo out during the tournament of power, he was fast enough to Dodge physical strikes and ki blasts from the Z fighters as his tiny size gave him an advantage, so yes he is FTL.

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Who wins

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Good day everyone, I hope everyone is enjoying their day, and wGood day everyone, I hope everyone is enjoying their day, and will continue to have an even joyous 1,today Ill be trying to scale Demigra From Super Dragon Ball Heroes, so I hope yall enjoy this read coz I know this is going to take me hours to make 🫩, I really had to do a deep dive into the lore as I realized even I didn't know much about it, I'm still far from finished with reading and watching sdbh, but I can say that they where some characters I misinterpreted or miscaled, thus I will be correcting that.

First : Who is Demigra (Lore Story)

Born around 75 Million years ago, as shown in the second scan, Demigra was a wizard who hoped to become the supreme kai of Time, succeeding Aeos as the previous supreme kai of time, But Aeos felt that demigra was unworthy of the title, and that he lacked the skill for being a rookie . Aeos had already chosen 2 candidates to be the next supreme kai of time, those being Chronoa And Mechikabura. Demigra Approached both Chronoa And Mechikabura to asked to be a disciple, they Chronoa felt she was unworthy of a disciple, but Mechikabura said he didn't need a disciple, but offered him the position of subordinate instead. Demigra then join mechi's subordinates, he then plotted to steal mechi's position as supreme kai of time with mechi's subordinates, but they weren't trust worthy in his eyes. Later on, mechi's plan to "forcefully become supreme kai of time was exposed and was banished, leading Chronoa to take Demigra and the others as disciples. Demigra also started messing with time due to his research of the Toki Toki egg, thus Chronoa found him,Putin and Gravy, she put belt to ahh, and locked them TF up in the demon realm like mechi. Then he join mechi once more but left the group again because he was too ambitious to become a subordinate. He escaped the demon realm and managed to take over the time vault, but once again, Chronoa put belt to booty and locked him up again, but this time in the Time chasm,These guys dnt learn smh 🤦‍♂. He spent 75 million years imprisoned in the time chasm, during that time he was building up his magic power and getting stronger, until he finally managed to break free from the time chasm, and he still gets the same treatment from past Chronoa and the current time patrol 💀.

Some Time after that the time patrol fight a mechi who was set free, I won't be explaining how mechi got set free as this scale isn't about him, but mechi then absorbs the multiverse within himself along with all histories of dbh, Demigra shows up to the battlefield having attained new power from a wish he made from dark shenron that allows him to rival mechi, and he allies with the time patrol and uses his chains of light to break through mechi's pseudo black whole and free the time patrol and helps them seal mechi with trunks using the keysword to seal the deal.

Later on Demigra would continue to give the Time patrol trouble as he kept getting stronger and his master over time power became more refined, so much so that he was capable of sealing a super Saiyan 4 limit breaker full power Xeno Vegito who was battling fu, fu also got trapped in this as his refinement of time power wasn't as high as Mechikabura's as time power user can add layers said power to make it stronger. Which brings me to a point where people seem to believe that people can only use time power to transcend 8 layers into their current level, due to it only happening 8 times, time power layers can be stacked any number of times, not just 8,just coz it was only done 8 times doesn't mean that eight 8⃣ times is the limit, adding these layers can add a + sign in a users tier as time power layers are different from basic status amps.

Back to Demigra's lore, he then uses inhanced enemies to battle the time patrol like dark omega shenron, in the Final battle demigra was defeated by MUI CC Goku, Ssj2 Dark shenron amped Future Gohan, Super Saiyan 4 Dark Shenron amped xeno Bardock, and a time power amp from Chronoa & Aeos on all three of them, only then could they land a 3 generation Kamehameha wave that over powered demigra and put him down.

Thats demigra's story Lore wise, Demigra is 1 one the most powerful villains and actually is comparable to beings like Full power Fu & Mechikabura who are the franchise's most notorious villains, as he was also stated to want to destroy all of creation, doing this would very much make him comparable to Fu and Mechi who where capable of doing the same

Verse Cosmology

Warning I might get the low end Dimensionality wrong, and it could be higher, but definitely not lower.

But firstly for those of you who are new to SDBH cosmology, I advise you read this CC Goku scale I made, this scale has a very comprehensive explanation of the SDBH cosmology and how it all works, So please check it out (⊹つ•⊹)ᵒᵘᵗ

So I'll make a short List Of Db cosmology but I'll be skipping some things as they aren't really important here, and I've already mentioned it others scales so you should understand if you did have a look at the scales.

TIME NEST

Firstly we have the Time Nest that spawns in different space-Times. This place would arguably be the highest point within any space-time.on base its would be 7D - 8D as it would be above the dimension of swirling lights and the neutral zone.

Parallel Quests

Then we have the place outside the crack of time also known as parallel quests, this place is outside the complex multiversal timelines in Db. This would be 9D on a low end, nothing below that.

THE CRACK OF TIME

This space exists outside the multiverse and above timelines and is connected to the timelines

As stated by Xeno Goku Black it's a space where not even the Gods can intervene with his plans . On a Base end this would be about 10D bare minimum.

FICTIONAL JAPAN 🇯🇵

fictional Japan is a world that would view the lower world as fiction and transcend and exist above even the crack of time this would make it 1A in scale. On a low end analysis this would be about 11D

MARVEL CROSSOVER WORLD

In V jump there is a crossover between marvel and V jump, this would is viewed and seen as a jump world and is connected to all V jump animes and games, this world has it's own mainline number, said number being (Earth 346), since this is a mainline marvel universe/multiverse, we can assume it would have the base worlds of and dimensions of a basic marvel universe. like hell having an infinite hierarchy of dimensions thus making it infinite D. While this is an outside world beats world would still view lower worlds that are connected through the game as fiction, as seen with how xeno trunks was pulled from the xenoverse games, which is a totally Different dimension and timeline from that of SDBH, so using this jump world isn't a stretch, as just like trunks being pulled from a different game entirely, meaning they acknowledge the xenoverse world existing, they would also know of Earth 346 as it's connected to the games of VJump, jump stars, jump force,budakai,the real 4D, and more.

BEATS WORLD

Beats views the lower worlds as a video game and uses an avatar to enter what he considers the game world. On on a low end analysis beats world would be about 12D

Beats plays the video games with an avatar and doesn't use his real self. On Base it's 1A

More Info on beats world

Quick beats world "Debunk" Debunk.

There are those who think that beats world is just a timeline, so he is time traveling,which is flat out wrong, although the lore uses events of the past to fuel events of the current arcade, the current story of the arcade itself that he enters as an avatar are mere works of fiction, the whole plot is a fictional plot to beats, it's like you having use an OC character to play the game and in that game you find out you are related to master roshi, Does that make you a real life being who entered the game through an avatar and your world just a random timeline??. Even when they come to the higher worlds, they are still fictional characters and not time traveled characters, beats world was never confirmed to being a future version as said statements are only speculative and nothing proven, and of it was a future timeline, beats would definitely not need an avatar to go back in time, nor would there be a need to break the dimensional barriers to get there, future timelines don't do that.

THE BLANK PAGE ⬜

The blank page is simply the page that encompasses the creation of all dragon ball lore, and is the page each character is drawn on. .This place views all db stories as fiction as it represents a real page that creates fictional characters, thus it's Bare minimum 1A .

THE CHARISMA WORLD

The charisma world is a Meta world within the SDBH cosmology and views lower world as fictional as beings from here play lower world missions through their own avatars like beats, they are even above beats world. This on a low would be 13D, & would be H1A on a more Base analysis.

THE REAL WORLD

This world is a visual representation of our world, this world possesses the producers and the "True" real world people, even they view it as fiction, and ToriBot is known as the S.U.G of this world (Supreme ultimate God), and is stated to be the reason SDBH exists, as he is the creator of all dragon ball, even beings not created by him fall beneath him as those author avatars who created said characters are also beneath Tori. This on a base end would be 14D bare minimum

POWER SCALING DEMIGRA

We know demigra had absorbed Toki Toki and gained the power to destroy beats world, As it says right here , going off of the low end analysis we can say Demigra would Be 13D , for those wondering why I'm using this so called low end analysis is for the people who dnt believe in outer SDBH, and who think they are low complex multi at best, this scale will prove that even if I "EXTREMELY LOWBALL", the true opposite of wank, said top Tiers in SDBH can reach hyperversal tiers

Even when dead Demigra can empower chamel and grant him the same power as himself, as Demons are immortal, even when they are erased body and soul completely as long as they have remaining residuals within the world they will always return. chamel's Avatar then goes on to fight the time patrol in his stead until he chooses to resurrect.

STRENGTH

Demigra would be relevant to Fu who could lift up a entire space-time/universe within two of his fingers as shown above said universe could also be scale to complex multiversal levels like the base cosmologies in SDBH, as the as long posses spaces like neutral zone, as shown in a scan above. So they would have complex multiversal levels of strength as a low (Neutral zone is 6D - 7D) , he would have outerversal level strength for being able to box with outerversal tier characters like the time patrol, and high outerversal levels of strength for suppassing his apprentices shroom, salsa and Chamel who view even beats world as part of a video game from the charisma world.

Speed

We know that Goku already attained inaccessible and immeasurable speeds back in DBS, As shown right here , thus would give demigra immeasurable speed for keeping up with a CC Goku who experienced the DBS timeline and long achieved immeasurable speeds, this would place any mid to high tier SDBH characters leagues beyond baseline immeasurable speeds. Demigra's attacks are even stated to reach worlds that transcend the concepts of time and space, and is even called the demon god that transcends time and space, that should give him irrelevant speeds all in all, along with most time power users.

ATTACK POTENCY & DESTRUCTIVE CAPABILITIES

On the lower end His AP & DC would be 13D off of being able to surpass his charisma world compatriots, shroom, salsa and Chamel, as seen with the scans above they very much stated that he was going to destroy everything, and while we know he was able to destroy beats world in the earlier stages, he attained even greater power and attempted to destroy everything, and recreate it how he saw fit.

DURABILITY

Demigra on a low end would has 13D or hyperversal level durability and nothing below that, which in turn would make a more basic scale of his durability 1A for tanking attacks from 1A beings, he would then attain high 1A+durability from gaining time power layering, which increases the users strength, durability, ki, God Ki, Dark factor and speeds the more layers time users add, although he is 1 of the very few capable of time power layering.

HAX & ABILITIES

Time power is a very, And I mean very broken abilities 😭😭.

And demigra being 1 of the most powerful time power users is am even bigger menace.For example time power users can rewind time whenever they lose so they can receive a do over, but time power users can also stop other time power users from rewinding time by overriding their control over time, so if said opponent cannot use time power they can't stop the user from rewinding time and trying to win the fight in a different way. Time power user can also rewind time on opponents bodies, as seen with Golden Frieza undoing time of the time patrols bodies and undoing their physical training 💀💀naaahh, thus weakening them, so if an opponent can layer their hax, or existence, they can undo that layering and revert opponents back to an innitial point they choose.

So beings who aren't on the same level as them will never reach or stand a chance as they would simply rewind time on their bodies undoing the growth and power the body attained even in the absence of that time user, Demigra is very much capable of this as he is a stronger time user than Frieza.

Time power is the birth of all space-time, dimensions and abstracts, thus all can be controlled and altered through time power, thus granting time users, abstract/Conceptual manipulation, fate manipulation, reality warping, NEP interaction, and loads of more hax which I won't be naming as it would take me like 10hours to write down 🫩.

DEMIGRA'S Final Tiering

LOW END ANALYSIS

For an Extreme low ball we would have demon king Demigra at 13D With irrelevant speeds, if we ignore earth 346, this is the lowest you could get him, if we include earth 346 then he would be high hyperversal at bare minimum.

BASE SCALING

Demigra not far from the beginning of the lore anime, Gained the power to destroy beats world after attaining time power and gaining the strength to combat Mechikabura and the time patrol, This would make him easily 1A+ during the mid events of SDBH lore wise, he then gained more time power as his minions fought the time patrol while he was dead and waited for the perfect moment to revive, after said revival he emerged more powerful than the last time and even more capable, even being stronger than shroom, salsa and Chamel who are H1A aswell, which would also land Demigra in that tier of power as well "lore wise",

In the Game Version he would be H1A+ via real world and time layering,as real world avatars are playable in game,and the game allows the fighters more freedom with their hax and abilities unlike lore wise where they are nerfed so as to not hinder the story, their arcade versions are given free reign over their abilities and aren't nerfed because if they could use their abilities fully lore wise, the time patrol would pack everyone up in a matter of moments weakening the impact and plot of the story.

So Low end EOS Demigra is hyperversal - high hyperversal.

Normal Demigra would be 1A+ in mid lore,later attaining High 1A to high 1A+ in the EOS,taking both his lore and Game versions into consideration and using his strongest interpretations, this scaling is very reasonable.

Thanks For Reading 📖

Would y'all like me to drop more scales on SDBH characters to give y'all more insights on how strong the each character is??, comment below on who I should try scale next?

I started writing this at 9am, it's 5:30 pm where I am rn 💀😭, so please like the post and share your thoughts, I would really appreciate it, I'm tired 🫩.

What do y'all think???

Is infinite Zamasu stronger than Daishinkan??

Does thragg clear OG Dragon Ball??

Fu (Super Dragon Ball Heroes) VS Gandalf (Lord Of The Rings)

Gandalf Scaling 💀💀💀 I'mma be real I didn't know he scales this high, but let me know, is High 1A scaling widely excepted for Gandalf??

Fu Scaling

Anyway who wins.

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Base janemba scale

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