u/Any_Tomato_9037

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Tomas — possible neurodivergence?

I know a lot of viewers and commentators complain about the actor that plays Tomas being emotionless and robotic. Many do not like him because of it. Others do not like his hyperfixation on his job above personal relationships or his inability to read the room or moments. Some complain about his lack of reaction things that they believe you should be more emotional.

Do any of you consider the possibility of the signs of neurodivergence? There are many neurological diversities beyond and including impossible placement on the autism spectrum if the writers chose to go in that direction, there are a few things that they would have to make adjustments to or dive into but what do you all think?

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u/Any_Tomato_9037 — 12 hours ago

Ted is NOT the PRIZE

These women’s lives , mental health, parenting, abilities, accomplishments and well-being is not wrapped up in whether this man stays with them or not. What a ridiculous message to send. So many options that they had to pursue their “hate Kat wagon” continuation and they create this? Wow it was completely unnecessary. If they wanted to really force this stupid dream scenario like a typical predictable things that they tend to want to do, they really could’ve typical stories to tell.Not even letting Kat see what it might’ve been like for Eva growing up or jumping in between scenarios Kat gets to see what cat could’ve went through During all of the gaslighting that she did the Kat in anyway, possibly by making Leslie think that she did the things that Eva made Kat’s family think that she did…. I don’t want any of they really this one off as much as I really want to support. They are giving me the courage to just say there’s much more out despite wanting to support them because of their commitment to diversity, they can’t seem to respect to different types of people. They are peddling too much favoritism toward it toxicity and they’re trying to teach people to turn the other to hatefulness at their convenience and they’re preaching selective accountability, which seems to mostly be going to work the victims instead of the orchestrators.

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u/Any_Tomato_9037 — 14 days ago

It’s valid

I seriously do not think this is a spoiler, but just to protect anyone who hasn’t watched, I’m putting the tag

Ramblings:

Kat clearly has a severe medical phobia of some kind whether they covered it or not. It’s a shame that her parents are medical professionals who have refused to acknowledge this validity, support her through healing from it, and getting her to mental health that she needs to support her as well.

Watching her family, including two medical professional parents — one of which is a psychiatrist, go figure —disregard her well-being through disregard to her mental health by gaslighting her, diminishing her value, belittling her intuition, and refusing to take accountability and apologize themselves constantly is hard to watch.

Nicole does not come off as very motherly to me since watching the show just like her friend, Vanessa. The most motherly ones seem to be Dani and Anita. Both Ted and Nicole present somewhat narcissistic parenting in a different way than how Leslie does. Ted and Nicole are consistently disregarding, mishandling, not believing, not validating and treating Kat like she is a nuisance. They treat her as a selfish little brat and they have supported Martin in doing the same while they simultaneously are going around calling her their miracle child, pretending she is their pretty little “perfect” princess while also bashing her and talking negatively about her problems, they obviously created and contributed to and not being there for her or supporting her in her times of need. I vividly remember Nicole not going after her own daughter when she ran off.

It seems like they look at Kat and treat her as an extension of themselves in their fake perfect life instead of as an actual human being with her own thoughts, feelings, emotions and problems. For both of them, it’s amazing that they treat her so poorly considering they are able to show so much grace towards Eva and Leslie—which makes me think that they look down on them so they feel they can tolerate more from them, but because they look at Kat as an extension of themselves and their fabricated “perfectness”, they hold Kat to an impossible standard and expect for her to be as fake as they are. (imagine being held to a fake mirror your entire life by the people who are supposed to love you.)

When the family refused to hold Eva and Leslie accountable for their choices, and just “seemingly” let go of what Leslie and Eva did they expected Kat to follow suit. They honestly do it because they still have resentment that they haven’t sorted through but for the they want it to appear as though they’re a strong that moved forward in the face of adversity and they require Kat to put on the same show and do what they did even though you can tell they both still hold resentment they just need to keep up the image of perfection that they’ve been practicing for Kats entire life. Any imperfections are not welcome.

They treat Kat like she’s the imperfection simultaneously telling her to her face that she’s perfect miracle; and not saying, but expecting that she lives up to whatever they her to be even if it’s not her or in her nature, and despite the fact that their pressures on her has affected her mental health and her expectations for the type of life that is possible for her. All of their lying, Teds cheating and the way he reacted afterwards, and how easily her family fell apart, had to have been catastrophic for her because her whole life was based off of this fake narrative that they gaslit her into experiencing and now she has to wake up from a dream see the truth of everything that they have been covering up from her. As her brother, Martin is no use. He has emotional problems, anger, issues, and instability all on his own he doesn’t make time to be a good brother. Some of us might even forget that they’re siblings many times during the first year. Some might even still.

Back to Ted and Nicole, Martin is their perfect little boy because he’s just as fake and performative in the face of public perception. I’m not intending to defend Kat, but I just see it extremely hypocritical on the parts of the family members and the fans who cannot extend her the same grace that they do to Eva and Leslie.

It is classism in the complete opposite way that most people claim classism in favor of Eva. They think that because Kat had a family with a prestigious name and money that she cannot have struggles and problems even though we can clearly see the neglect and expectations that were placed on her in a lifestyle that they gaslit her into living up to, and then snatched from underneath her without even as little as an apology or consideration for her mental health while her mom parades herself around as a psych psychiatrist, nonetheless!!

As I said, Ted and Nicole go on and on about how Kat was a miracle baby and she was not supposed to be here but some miracle she made it through to live and they had to struggle to bring her into the world meaning that her entire beginning of her life there was a possibility of her, not making it and they put that in her head her entire life. as a child, constantly hearing that her life is fragile, she could have died. They’re always scared of losing her, and they have been,that she could die, and that they were afraid of her dying, and that they were scared for her life and scared that she wouldn’t make it. They probably and possibly jumped at every little scrape or fumble, and if not, they seem to be overbearing and overly trying to pedestalize her in their own image. That is psychologically damaging, and it could easily explain why she would have a phobia of anything related to the potential of her, not making it in life.

Who knows what type of trauma she has from the beginning of her life? It’s frustrating that people don’t acknowledge this. They were probably hovering over her. Her entire life worried about her well-being. We don’t know if she was taken to the or if she had any type of when she was born because they were afraid after having so many miscarriages. It’s not their fault that they were scared, just like it’s not Kats fault that she has taken on their fears and anxieties that they put on her because they wanted to have a child and she happened to be the child that they were gifted.

It doesn’t mean that they intended to, but it is obvious that they have treated her like less than her own person and more of an extension of themselves. It’s even more obvious that they have not taken the effects of what that has done to her with the seriousness that it deserves.

It has been obvious that cat has had a phobia to those of us watching continuously throughout the show, especially when the cancer storyline happened and she refused to tested and was so crippled by her anxieties and fears that she was unable to even go with her grandmother after she learned about the diagnosis and people were trying to force her to be tested for something. She was clearly having an anxiety and fears about. There’s literally a chemical alterations in your brain when you experience those type of phobias, which I Suspect could have developed from her parents, fears and phobias after having so many miscarriages and receiving her as a rainbow baby. She loves Anita so much; the fact that her fears about them trying to force her to be tested was so paralyzing that She could not bring her self to get past the detriment of these life threatening risks to be with Anita during the Mardi Gras around the diagnosis of the cancer and gene risk proves that her fears are not about evil at all, and they are legitimate.She deeply struggles with medical fears and phobia and uses avoidance as a coping mechanism. She was honest when she described how she is paralyzed by medical fears, anxiety and phobia. I wish we could count on her mother to have been there for her, but we see how her mom has treated her as if she’s overdramatic or disregarding her despite being a herself, so it’s a coin toss. Kat support that she should’ve gotten at a different time before her sister was endangered.

More than that, Leslie needs to take accountability for the hate that she brewed between Eva and her entire family, especially Kat. Leslie spent the better part of the last 2 years, constantly saying negative things about cat to Eva and negatively discuss discussing that entire family for Eva’s entire life. Every time Eva and cat nearly had some type of breakthrough. Leslie was there crush the potential of that . Leslie needs to go to cat and lay it out for her and apologize to her for her contributions and she should’ve done that long ago before her daughter Was in need of an organ.

Had Ted and Nicole tended to Kat’s anxieties which clearly had to have been obvious before now if we as viewers can see them, had Leslie prioritized her child’s wellbeing ahead of her own revenge plot on a family (who doesn’t know her) to foster a positive relationship between Eva and her family everyone would be better off. But since they did not, they need to address all of that right now in order to protect Eva’s life.

Eva is going through a life-threatening ordeal and she certainly needs and deserves focus. Due to the adults dragged along problems there are continuous repercussions. The desire to fight for Eva’s life is obviously valid. it’s gonna be extremely overwhelming for cat being that the very People who fostered the issues between her, and her sister are now teaming up to bully her further into literally cutting her body open and giving a piece Away and complete disregard her clear anxieties and phobias. They’re making it as though cat doesn’t have any rights or say so and it’s clear that she cares about Eva because if she did not, she would not have stayed at the hospital after they kept going off on her. You can tell that she wants to be able to do what she sees as the right thing, but she doesn’t know how to because she’s crippled in her fears that she could not even get past when she needed to get tested to Prepare to protect her own life In the case of the BRACA gene.

Kat has a genuine heart that has been stepped on a lot recently so she has her guard up and she’s trying to protect herself; seeking any place for safety, which is why she is even with weak Tomas. she has not been protected and people think that because she has been spoiled, that means that she has been protected when sometimes I can be the exact opposite. She has not had safety in the illusion they gave her safety was completely false and so now she’s just free falling with no one to be there for her or protect her. The way everyone in her family told her they always would be. No one has her thoughts, feelings, fears or anxieties in mind. No one cares about her mental health. Her fears of what would happen if Eva turned out to be her father’s and when her family broke up or being realized and no one cares just like they did not care when it first happened.

She’s re-living Unresolved traumas and she’s expected to save the people who triggered the domino effect. Although I do want her to help if she can and I believe that she wants to, I completely understand Her mental phobias and I do not think it’s right to bully Abuse, her into doing something that creates more trauma for her mentally. She needs to make that decision on her own based off of what she can and Live with in herself because she’s going to have a lot of trauma, regardless of how this goes and that matters too all of these things are valid Her mental health and Eva’s health.

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u/Any_Tomato_9037 — 19 days ago