u/AryanEmbered

Samsung Dex One UI 8.5 stable impressions on Baby S25

Controller bluetooth problem has been fixed after one year of being fucked. Unacceptable it took this long but it is fixed, can confirm.

The multiple desktop implementation is absolute dog shit. They didnt even mention it in the changelog because maybe they are aware of how bad it is.

Heres why-

  1. Theres no way to switch between 2 desktops(dextops?) With a 4 finger swipe or hotkey. You have to open recents menu, and then swipe or click on the small arrow on the top left of the screen to switch. Insane.

  2. You would expect if you have 3 apps open on desktop 1. And 2 on desktop 2, and you click on the taskbar icon of an app thats on desktop 2 when you are On desktop 1, it would automatically switch to that desktop to preserve your window layout, NOPE fuck your layout that you put so much effort into creating (they made organizing windows MUCH MUCH WORSE, this will be next point), the app just reopens on your current desktop on top of whatever window layout you created.

The person who programmed this needs to use a real computer for once instead of having the ui experience of playing with an abacus.

3.window management - Absolute Dog shit. If you want to have 4 phone sized apps side by side its much harder to get to that layout because the moment you move the window handle of an app close to top of the screen, it AUTOMAXIMIZES?????? what the actusl fuck is this behavior literally no OS ever does this. A MASSIVE downgrade.

  1. One good thing is dex does remember window layouts. BUT GUESS WHAT, if you disconnect from dex, and then use your phone and close an app, and then you reconnect to dex, the closed app does not show up.

This speaks to lack of a design philosophy or vision of the technical implementation of a desktop mode.

Are apps on dex and phone supposed to be separate instances (what happens to the memory or runtime of those apps outside of desktop mode then?), or the same app just blown up.

Some places like samsung internet or instagram, it works like a separate instance with different scaling and viewport config, others like whatsapp its the same app blown up.

This is very damning because theres nothing samsung can do to fix it. And even google or aosp cant fix it for different reasons (sheer incompetence)

Thats about it. Here are my thoughts-

There is still no way to get rid of the 5 app limit which is absurd. This all ties back into the theme of Enshittification. Why is the version of dex on my samsung tablet from 10 years ago Significantly better than this? That can run linux natively and officially, no app limit bullshit, no window management bullshit, everything just works, but here we are, 10 years later, looking at a much worse version of what we already had instead of getting the promised and anticipated improvements.

I feel like i am going crazy and this current tech landscape is some form of a social experiment with hardware costs skyrocketing, software quality nosediving and general standard of living declining.

Its not just dex it is seemingly everything. People hailing the macbook neo when its just a worse macbook air m1 from half a decade ago for more money. And lets not even think about politics. A civilization in decline is an ugly thing.

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u/AryanEmbered — 11 days ago

Dex one ui 8.5 Impressions on S25

Controller bluetooth problem has been fixed after one year of being fucked. Unacceptable it took this long but it is fixed, can confirm.

The multiple desktop implementation is absolute dog shit. They didnt even mention it in the changelog because maybe they are aware of how bad it is.

Heres why-

  1. Theres no way to switch between 2 desktops(dextops?) With a 4 finger swipe or hotkey. You have to open recents menu, and then swipe or click on the small arrow on the top left of the screen to switch. Insane.

  2. You would expect if you have 3 apps open on desktop 1. And 2 on desktop 2, and you click on the taskbar icon of an app thats on desktop 2 when you are On desktop 1, it would automatically switch to that desktop to preserve your window layout, NOPE fuck your layout that you put so much effort into creating (they made organizing windows MUCH MUCH WORSE, this will be next point), the app just reopens on your current desktop on top of whatever window layout you created.

The person who programmed this needs to use a real computer for once instead of having the ui experience of playing with an abacus.

3.window management - Absolute Dog shit. If you want to have 4 phone sized apps side by side its much harder to get to that layout because the moment you move the window handle of an app close to top of the screen, it AUTOMAXIMIZES?????? what the actusl fuck is this behavior literally no OS ever does this. A MASSIVE downgrade.

  1. One good thing is dex does remember window layouts. BUT GUESS WHAT, if you disconnect from dex, and then use your phone and close an app, and then you reconnect to dex, the closed app does not show up.

This speaks to lack of a design philosophy or vision of the technical implementation of a desktop mode.

Are apps on dex and phone supposed to be separate instances (what happens to the memory or runtime of those apps outside of desktop mode then?), or the same app just blown up.

Some places like samsung internet or instagram, it works like a separate instance with different scaling and viewport config, others like whatsapp its the same app blown up.

This is very damning because theres nothing samsung can do to fix it. And even google or aosp cant fix it for different reasons (sheer incompetence)

Thats about it. Here are my thoughts-

There is still no way to get rid of the 5 app limit which is absurd. This all ties back into the theme of Enshittification. Why is the version of dex on my samsung tablet from 10 years ago Significantly better than this? That can run linux natively and officially, no app limit bullshit, no window management bullshit, everything just works, but here we are, 10 years later, looking at a much worse version of what we already had instead of getting the promised and anticipated improvements.

I feel like i am going crazy and this current tech landscape is some form of a social experiment with hardware costs skyrocketing, software quality nosediving and general standard of living declining.

Its not just dex it is seemingly everything. People hailing the macbook neo when its just a worse macbook air m1 from half a decade ago for more money. And lets not even think about politics. A civilization in decline is an ugly thing.

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u/AryanEmbered — 11 days ago

Turns out, since w3 game speed is not tied to framerate, turbo mode is basically 60fps mode

Also, new drivers dont need res scaling, nice. Even the baby s25 is able to maintain close to 60 fps most of the time.

u/AryanEmbered — 25 days ago