Can we disagree here without abusing each other?
Something interesting, and honestly a little concerning, happened in this group yesterday. I have no intention of asking for sympathy here. I just want to share an opinion about what I think this community should be about.
Most of us here are struggling with some aspect of our lives because of our Indian in-laws. Some of us have decades of marriage behind us and have a lot of experience navigating these dynamics. some of us are only beginning this journey. But regardless of where we are in our marriages, I think most of us come here looking for some degree of comfort, understanding and support from people who get it.
One particularly vulnerable section of this community is pregnant women. I'm part of several other communities where I get support around my pregnancy, but for many women here, pregnancy comes with an additional layer of complexity because of their in-laws and family dynamics. So forgive me, but I do feel somewhat protective of women who are navigating both at the same time.
My own pregnancy is high-risk and comes after years of IVF-related trauma. I know firsthand how hard-fought this pregnancy is for my husband and me. I also know more about the science and uncertainties around conception and pregnancy than I ever imagined I would, simply because of what I've been through. I was once advised to consider surrogacy. Today, I'm carrying my own baby and entering my second trimester. That feels enormous to me.
Coming to the point - yesterday, someone posted about struggling with her in-laws' reaction to her pregnancy after deciding to share the news with them within her 1st trimester. She was obviously stressed out. I could have written that post myself. Despite everything I've experienced with my own in-laws, I also chose to share my pregnancy with them once I had seen a heartbeat at around 8 weeks. Unlike a completely spontaneous conception, IVF can involve a lot of people knowing about the process, procedures and struggles that preceded the pregnancy. If my own family knew and celebrated this hard-fought pregnancy with me, I felt my husband should also have the opportunity to share that joy with his family.
The point is: we don't know why someone chooses to share (or not share) their pregnancy news. And I don't think that choice should be questioned or, worse, used to plant additional fear in someone who is already anxious.
I was initially going to simply wish the OP well and move on. But then I saw the top comment, which essentially said: Why did OP share their pregnancy already? Didn't she know that only 4 out of 5 pregnancies make it to the second trimester? The commenter also mentioned that she was pregnant herself but hadn't told anyone, so implied why did the OP? That genuinely irritated me.
Pregnancy outcomes cannot responsibly be reduced to a blanket statistic and applied to an individual pregnant woman, particularly without knowing her age, gestational age, medical history, pregnancy history, conception method or other relevant factors. IVF pregnancies themselves encompass a huge range of circumstances and outcomes. If you're not a medical professional, I think we should be especially careful about presenting pregnancy statistics (and even cultural practices like not sharing before 13 weeks) as definitive facts - particularly when we're saying them directly to someone who is already anxious about her pregnancy!!
So I replied to the commenter and politely pointed out that I didn't think it was appropriate to present that statistic as a reason for OP to feel like that they shouldn't have shared their pregnancy. What followed was completely disproportionate.
I was told to "shut up", "fuck off", called a "bitch" twice, "loser", "idiot", "attention seeking moron". All in a space of 2-3 comments from someone who had never met me and knew absolutely nothing about my circumstances.
Eventually I lost my patience too and questioned how someone could speak to another person that way over a disagreement. It did reflect very poorly on her and I questioned her extent of education and manners. She said she has a Master's degree in microbiology (amidst curses hurled at me, wow!) which again doesn't make her qualified in any capacity to give advice regarding pregnancy statistics.
I've since reported the abusive comments, so I won't be engaging with her any further. I am choosing to not explicitly state her username as a gesture of courtesy.
And honestly, I'm less angry now than I am sad and a little amused that two pregnant women in a community that is supposed to be about supporting each other couldn't have a disagreement without it turning into digital abuse and harassment.
I kept thinking about it afterwards, even though I had already decided not to engage. And I'm ashamed to admit that it kept me awake. Maybe it's pregnancy hormones. Maybe it's because this part of my life feels particularly vulnerable to me after everything I've been through. And I genuinely wonder: aren't we supposed to be here to support each other?
If someone is already stressed about her pregnancy, what do we gain by throwing scary, oversimplified statistics at her? If we see misinformation being used to frighten someone, shouldn't we be able to calmly point it out without it attracting abuses?
I know this is a long, somewhat rambling post. I think I just needed to get it out.
And I really hope this post doesn't attract another round of weirdness 😂 because at this point I may just have to disappear from Reddit until my own pregnancy is safely through. 🥲