My highest CTR RR ad has my worst follower conversion.

I've been running 3 RR ads for my current story and the results are starting to make me question how useful CTR is by itself.

Current numbers*:

Ad Impressions Clicks CTR Followers Read Later
A 65,036 445 0.68% 15 (12.5%) 24 (20%)
B 27,329 208 0.74% 1 (1.61%) 16 (25.81%)
C 11,371 64 0.56% 3 (12%) 6 (24%)

* from RR dashboard

Obviously the sample sizes aren't equal yet, especially for C, so I wouldn't draw any hard conclusions from this. But Ad B is very interesting am already in process of trying to change it.

It currently has the highest CTR at 0.73%, so if I were judging the creative purely on clicks, I'd call it the winner. Yet its follower conversion is dramatically worse than the other two. At the same time, its Read Later percentage is actually the highest.

That makes me wonder if we're really measuring two different things:

CTR = Did this image make me curious enough to click?

versus

Follower conversion = Did what I found after clicking match what the ad made me expect?

In other words, could a really strong curiosity based ad actually be worse than a slightly lower CTR ad if it's attracting the wrong readers?

I'd much rather have 0.6% CTR from people who are interested in the story than 1% CTR from people who click because the ad itself is funny/strange and then immediately leave.

The Read Later numbers muddy things further. Ad B might not necessarily be attracting the wrong audience they may just be less willing to follow immediately. I am not sure i like the Read Later option at all! if I like it I will follow or fav, RL is a weird option imo.

So I'm curious what people who've run a lot more RR ads have found:

And if you had to choose between:

A: 1.0% CTR + poor follower conversion ( even if strong RL)

or

B: 0.6–0.7% CTR + strong follower conversion

which one would you actually keep running? I would be more inclined to B

Also interested in whether anyone has found Read Later to be predictive of eventual followers/readers, or whether it mostly click and forget type of things.

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u/AzherVayne — 1 day ago

Why Shoutouts are important but not necessarily the end all be all of RS success

First a big thanks to rrtrack.app website to build such a great data treasure trove for data nerds like me. ( Btw i am not associated with the site just a user)

I was curious how heavily the current Main Rising Stars list relies on shoutouts, so I went through all 50 stories currently on Main Rising Stars ( snapshot rn) and checked the incoming shoutouts via Rr track detail story page.

Key data points:

Across the 50 stories:

  • 1,068 total incoming shoutouts
  • 21.4 average
  • 19 median

Almost half of Main RS currently has 25+ tracked incoming shoutouts.

Median shoutouts by ranking

Ranks #1–10: 18.5
Ranks #11–25: 18
Ranks #26–50: 20

There are some pretty extreme examples.

Underworld Bread Mage: 68 shoutouts
Gifted: 57
Dollar Store Demonology: 53
Fall of Duties: 51

Meanwhile there are Main RS stories with:

0 shoutouts.

Peak Elf performance - 0 shouts

Conduits - 0 shouts

One story in the sample had almost 3,000 followers with only 2 tracked incoming shoutouts.

Another had over 4,000 followers with 4.

Note please this data only contains stories that have already succeeded enough to reach Main Rising Stars. And there are several huge variables we can't see.

Ads run, How big the story giving each shoutout was ( based on story) , How many clicks each shoutout generated, Genre/audience overlap?

Shoutouts seem common, but raw shoutout count is a terrible predictor of where a story sits on Rising Stars.

all i can say is what someone said earlier to me here or on discord cant remember,

Shoutout from huge author story following > Shoutout from genre match > Shoutout > No Shoutout

So please plan your launch well and learn to network with fellow authors... Cheers and hope this helps! There are some great discord servers ( The Writing Well is one of them that am biased towards due to some really great people who are very helpful)

u/AzherVayne — 6 days ago
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Does a new book release of DCC ( or any other big author) release help the grow the audience of less well known genre writers or readers to explore

Hi everyone! I recently came across this market report ( State of LitRPG from Pivot Press) click download to get the pdf and read in detail ( I am not associated with them just came across it).

One thing really caught my eye, and I want to know what readers and writers in our genre think?. If you look at the 3 charts i have shared from report the market grew however share of DCC is growing faster than that! In fact, seven of the top ten books being read are from this one series.

You might think a big release / collabs brings in new readers who then go read other books but instead, when a new book drops, it seems to me readers just go back and read the older books in that exact same series ( DCC mainly rn). any boost for other writers is just not there?

Readers: When you finish catching up on a huge favorite like DCC, do you jump right into a new, unknown writer? Or do you just want more of that exact same series?

Writers: Have you ever noticed a boost in your own reads when a new book of series like DCC drops?

Maybe am thinking of this in too simplistic terms, do let me know your thoughts!

u/AzherVayne — 9 days ago

Missing metric I think RR should provide on Ads

https://preview.redd.it/1hqpn7ehkqgh1.png?width=608&format=png&auto=webp&s=c5ef22387f6261032e20e0a89e79525efb2e9588

I was looking at my data yesterday as I had recently launched a new ad and this question popped up, How many ad-attributed Read Later users eventually followed the story or opened Chap 1 or reached Chapter 5?

This seems to be one of things I would love to see in understanding more on my ads effectiveness. I have run 4 ads so far on RR , 3 for my previous stuff and one currently ongoing and I would love to this data as it would help me see what worked better ( was Ad 2 better than 1 in follows?) . I dont know if its already in plans but this would help a lot in deciding which ad was most effective. Also if some Read later read up to 5 and just dropped instead of following? So blurb attracted them but they didn't get hooked.

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u/AzherVayne — 19 days ago

Published a few books recently and in process of writing a new one...

I’m an indie author who writes humorous fantasy with absurd bureaucracy, workplace satire, progression elements, and characters trying to stay sensible while everything around them falls apart.

My **Duck You** series currently has two books on Amazon, with Book 3 ongoing on Royal Road. I also have the workplace-fantasy novella **Misery Inc.**

Duck You: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GX2YJ8LL\](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GX2YJ8LL)
Duck You 2: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H3R184KN\](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H3R184KN)
Misery Inc.: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H9Y256M5\](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H9Y256M5)

Hope some of you try and love it! I had / still do have a blast writing em

u/AzherVayne — 24 days ago

Published a few books recently and in process of writing a new one...

I’m an indie author who writes humorous fantasy with absurd bureaucracy, workplace satire, progression elements, and characters trying to stay sensible while everything around them falls apart.

My Duck You series currently has two books on Amazon, with Book 3 ongoing on Royal Road. I also have the workplace-fantasy novella Misery Inc., plus my new progression fantasy series, Keeper of the Infinite Archive, about an ordinary asst librarian rebuilding a ruined cosmic archive through rules, cataloguing, and questionable management decisions.

Duck You: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GX2YJ8LL
Duck You 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H3R184KN
Misery Inc.: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H9Y256M5
Keeper of the Infinite Archive: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/182632/keeper-of-the-infinite-archive

Hope some of you try and love it! I had / still do have a blast writing em

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u/AzherVayne — 24 days ago

Is it just me, or do most series fall off after book 4 or 5?

Does anyone else lose interest in a story around the 4th or 5th book?

A lot of progression could be done and MC would have overcome a major obstacle by then normally?. To keep the story going, it seems like authors take hard turns and force new problems that just do not fit. Very few stories hold my attention past book 5. Of course there are exceptions...

I really think a a trilogy is the perfect length for most stories. If an author wants to keep using that same world / universe, they should just write spin offs with new people? The original MC could become a side character even?

That makes way more sense than dragging the same MC through endless, forced drama.

What do you guys think?

u/AzherVayne — 24 days ago

New Absurd story alert: Keeper of the Infinite Archive

Most isekai heroes die saving a person. Bart, an assistant librarian, died diving in front of a speeding bus just to save a dropped library book.

Because of this, the universe transmigrates him to manage the Infinite Archive a ruined cosmic library floating in an endless dark void. His job is to rebuild the library from scratch using his administrative skills and a magical "Staff Restroom" door that acts as a multiverse portal.

things to expect:

  • Rule Enforcement Magic: Bart doesn't fight; he spends his Mana to enforce Library Rules. If someone attacks him with an iron sword, he enforces "No weapons in the reading room," turning the sword into a rolled-up newspaper.
  • Absurd Base-Building: Every scrap of paper brought back rebuilds the ruins. Bringing back a dirty goblin bounty poster magically grows the new Crime Section.
  • A Hilarious Cast: Bart's only staff members are a living skeleton wearing a black bowtie, a magical flying book that constantly insults him in red ink, and a petty thief paid in squished turkey sandwiches. Also some great recurring visitors!

Check it out on RR: https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/182632/keeper-of-the-infinite-archive

u/AzherVayne — 25 days ago

Marketing Advice requested: Transitioning from Royal Road to KDP with a GameLit Comedy Series

Hi all, I recently published my first two books on KDP. They are in a specific fantasy niche GameLit comedy, to be exact. Before moving to KDP, I had a small following of about 400 people on Royal Road, which gave me the push to try self-publishing.

My first month brought in some sales (nothing huge, but a start!) and just a single rating/review so far. I have been testing different advertising options to see what works best, and I would love to get some pointers from the community.

Here is what I have tried so far:

  • Amazon Ads: I started here but quickly found it was getting too expensive for what I got back. I had around 40,000 impressions, which led to about 60 clicks and 3 sales.
  • BookBub Ads: I tried targeting readers of authors who write similar books. It brought in some sales, but the click-through rate (CTR) wasn't much better than Amazon.
  • Facebook Ads: I just started trying these and am already seeing much better results. The CTR is higher, the costs (CPM) are lower, and I have already made a sale. Right now, my budget is 5 euros a day. Is this too low to see real results over time?
  • Organic Social Media: I am also using TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram to promote the books naturally.

What else should I be doing to maximize my marketing? Am I missing any obvious steps or strategies, especially for the GameLit/LitRPG niche? Any hints or direction would be great!

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u/AzherVayne — 2 months ago
▲ 3 r/KDP

Marketing Advice requested: Transitioning from Royal Road to KDP with a GameLit Comedy Series

Hi all, I recently published my first two books on KDP. They are in a specific fantasy niche GameLit comedy, to be exact. Before moving to KDP, I had a small following of about 400 people on Royal Road, which gave me the push to try self-publishing.

My first month brought in some sales (nothing huge, but a start!) and just a single rating/review so far. I have been testing different advertising options to see what works best, and I would love to get some pointers from the community.

Here is what I have tried so far:

  • Amazon Ads: I started here but quickly found it was getting too expensive for what I got back. I had around 40,000 impressions, which led to about 60 clicks and 3 sales.
  • BookBub Ads: I tried targeting readers of authors who write similar books. It brought in some sales, but the click-through rate (CTR) wasn't much better than Amazon.
  • Facebook Ads: I just started trying these and am already seeing much better results. The CTR is higher, the costs (CPM) are lower, and I have already made a sale. Right now, my budget is 5 euros a day. Is this too low to see real results over time?
  • Organic Social Media: I am also using TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram to promote the books naturally.

What else should I be doing to maximize my marketing? Am I missing any obvious steps or strategies, especially for the GameLit/LitRPG niche? Any hints or direction would be great!

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u/AzherVayne — 2 months ago

How to keep a series going forever....

Just some of the tricks of the trade i have been learning by reading recently ....

u/AzherVayne — 3 months ago

Self-Publishing Update: The Launch of "Duck You" Book 1 Week 1

Hey everyone! I want to keep being open about my self-publishing journey. Book 1 of Duck You launched on May 2nd, and I wanted to share how things are going.

The Numbers So Far As you can see in the picture, for this past 8 days I have:

  • Orders: 7 ebook orders
  • Pages Read (KENP): 775
  • Royalties: €19.32

RR & Followers I mainly promoted the launch using an Author Note on Royal Road. I had 400 followers before I took my chapters down for Amazon (stubbing). After taking them down, about 20 to 25 people dropped, which is seems pretty normal!

Paperbacks Are Coming Some RR readers asked for physical copies, so I made a paperback version! My proof copies are arriving this Wednesday. Once I check them and make sure they look good, the print version will go live. For anyone curious about Amazon math: the printing cost is around $6 for about 414 pages with my settings. You get a 60% royalty on paperbacks, minus that print cost (eBooks are the ones that get the 70% royalty!). You can set this via KDP and also get an ISBN number which is important for free.

Reviews I asked for ratings and reviews ( keep it honest here don't ask for 5 star etc), but I haven't gotten a single one yet! :) It happens, we just keep moving forward.

Marketing & Ads Here is what I did to get the word out:

  • Facebook Groups: I shared in some LitRPG groups. If you do this, read the group rules first! Some groups let you post for free, while others charge you for featured posts. It is also important to be active in the group and not just drop links.
  • Paid Ads: I spent about $30 on Meta ads (Facebook and Instagram).
  • Videos: I posted short videos on YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram to try and get more eyes on the book. ( see pics and my attempts at social media marketing lol)

I will keep sharing these updates periodically as the process goes on. I hope this helps anyone else who is looking to self-publish! Ask me any other question and I will try to answer to the best of my knowledge.

Great input Courtesy of u/EndlessSleeper3992 List of groups and rules for anyone starting out on this journey!

[Progression Fiction Addicts (Fantasy/Sci-Fi/Gamelit/litRPG/Cultivation)](https://www.facebook.com/groups/progressionfictionaddicts/): only post Mondays, Wednesdays, or Fridays.

[Progression Fantasy](https://www.facebook.com/groups/349808165619256): 1 post per book.

[LitRPG Rebels](https://www.facebook.com/groups/LitRPGRebels): 1 post per book.

[LitRPG Adventures Reviews and Discussions](https://www.facebook.com/groups/LitRPGAdventures): Saturdays or Sundays only.

[LitRPG Releases](https://www.facebook.com/groups/LitRPGReleases): contact Troy Osgood, BJ Woods or Sean Oswald. They will post about your book.

[LitRPG Forum](https://www.facebook.com/groups/litrpgforum): 1 post per book.

[Fantasy, Fiction, litrpg books and Audible](https://www.facebook.com/groups/618412771839288): 1 post per book.

[A Speculative Fiction, Science Fiction, Fantasy, Readers & Writers Hangout](https://www.facebook.com/groups/spec.fic.scifi.fantasy): 1 post per book, add #selfpromotion to the post.

- You can also post in these subreddits when the book launches and send me the link to the posts so I can share them.

[r/ProgressionFantasy](https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressionFantasy/): you need to have contributed comments or posts to be able to self-promo. Only 10% of your posts can be self-promo. It's a good idea to ask the mods beforehand.

[r/LitRPG](https://www.reddit.com/r/litrpg/): only 10% of your posts can be self-promo. No need to ask mods here.

[r/RoyalRoad](https://www.reddit.com/r/royalroad/): you need to link the Royal Road page instead of the amazon page. I suggest you put the genius link in your RR novel description and in the chapter before stub (author notes).

u/AzherVayne — 3 months ago

Wow, this marketer definitely read my book and didn't just copy my summary...

I just got a sales pitch from a book marketer for my AMZ launch, and I had to share it because it is so low effort. Here is her brilliant plan:

​- Copy and paste my exact book summary including the keywords like "alpacalypse" and the pumpkin paladin so it looks like a personal email.

​- Remind me that I have zero reviews and tell me my rank is in danger. (Thanks, I already know!)

​- Tell me my book is great, but my title might be scaring people away. Lol the title is one of main reasons why my book is attractive.

​-Offer to send me a "secret" phase by phase plan to fix it of course potentially for a fee.

- literally just suggests that I ask my friends on LinkedIn and Discord to leave reviews.

​Has anyone else gotten these? It gave me a good laugh today.

P.S. for anyone interested i have had 6 unit sales and 290 pages in KU read so far :)

u/AzherVayne — 3 months ago

I am really happy to share that my book, Duck You! Book 1, is officially out on Amazon and Kindle Unlimited!

What is the book about? It is a comedy about a tired game maker named Kai who gets stuck inside his own broken game. The world is a mess, the rules do not work right, and the game is run by a greedy system that charges him gold for just about everything.

The magic system is a lot of fun. The system is snarky, run through a bad autocorrect . If he tries to cast a dangerous "Apocalypse" spell, it changes to "Alpacalypse" and fills the room with spitting alpacas instead.

To fix the broken world, he has to travel with a very weird team:

  • Sir Gideon: A knight who thinks game bugs are miracles from the gods. He wears pink plastic roller skates and fights with a giant squeaky toy hammer.
  • Viscount Pigglesworth: A snobby noble who deals zero damage in fights, but yells at monsters about their ugly clothes.
  • Maya: An artist who uses a giant brush to paint new things into the world. Sadly, a "child safety filter" changes her deadly spikes into soft pillows.

If you like lots of laughs, broken game rules, and a story that does not take itself too seriously, I think you will really enjoy this one.

You can grab the book and read it right here: 🔗https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GX2YJ8LL( Direct AMZ link for US readers)

https://books2read.com/u/bP2v57 (For rest of non US marketplaces to help you direct to AMZ link for your country)

Book 2 is wrapped up on Royal Road right now, and I am already working hard on Book 3! Thank you so much to everyone who has read the story and helped me along the way. I hope you have a great time reading it!

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u/AzherVayne — 4 months ago
▲ 25 r/royalroad+1 crossposts

Hey all, I’m thrilled to announce that Duck You! Glitch Please : Book 1 is officially live on Amazon and KU! I started the journey of my writing on RR with a post here about 4 months ago which has led to this moment of AMZ publication. I cannot begin to thank some of the people here who supported and have ended up as readers of Duck you!

So for people not yet familiar with my story here goes:

Have you ever stared at spaghetti code at 3 AM and wished you could just isekai yourself out of the office? Don't do it. It’s a trap, and the System literally charges you for breathing.

The Pitch: Duck You! is a satirical GameLit comedy about a sleep-deprived dev ( Kai) who fat-fingers a typo and gets sucked into Aether a glitchy, heavily monetized RPG ( More on this later if its actually an RPG or something else).

In Book 1, the magic is tied to a laggy Autocorrect and snarky system. Try to cast "Apocalypse"? You get an "Alpacalypse" of spitting llamas. Try to cast "Fireball"? You throw a "Flyer Ball" of cheap coupons. You also have a bunch of ways to exploit the game world.

To stop a catastrophic server wipe, Kai is stuck trying to survive with the ultimate liability squad:

  • Sir Gideon: A paladin who thinks game bugs are "signs from the gods," currently swinging a squeaky hammer while wearing plastic roller skates.
  • Viscount Pigglesworth: An aristocratic NPC who deals zero physical damage but causes devastating emotional damage by critiquing enemies' fashion.
  • Grom: An Orc Guildmaster who treats every dungeon raid like a hostile corporate takeover.
  • Maya: A senior artist whose magic paintbrush keeps getting censored by the game’s "Child Safety Protocol".

A quick note on the series: Book 1 kicks off with the Autocorrect chaos, but as the story evolves into Book 2, we focus much more on breaking the game, exploiting collision bugs, dodging reality leaking spills from the real world, and surviving a System that literally micro-transactions us to death.

Status & Links:

Thank you to everyone who followed along during the RR serialization. Your comments / follows kept the servers running 😄 !

u/AzherVayne — 4 months ago

​Hey all, ​I just finished book 3 of Dead End Guild Master by Marshal Carper, and I would 100% recommend it! I think it is really underrated, so I wanted to make a post in case anyone here hasn't read it yet.

​I will say it starts a little slow, but stick with it. I absolutely love the way the characters< Hans and Mazo are my favs> connect with each other. It has a great mix of casual slice of life stuff, but there is a much bigger, deeper story going on behind it all.

what to expect: ​Kingdom building & Dungeon Master parts, ​Detailed party based fights, ​Guild politics and best of all ​Deep mysteries: There is cool mystery running through the whole thing, and the story uses flashbacks to slowly reveal the secrets of the past along with some fun as well. MC is not OP though he does have significant influence over some OP ones.

Also the gag with books by Hanyu B Dumas is great... There are 5 books out on KU as far as I can see..

u/AzherVayne — 4 months ago

Hi everyone!

If you want a fun break from huge battles and just want to read about monsters dealing with real everyday horrors like tax forms and long meetings check out my free story, Misery Inc.

It takes place at a reinsurance company where the staff is a little different:

  • Alucard is an energy vampire working in the Tax department. He eats office stress to survive.
  • A werewolf who fixes computers in IT.
  • A zombie stuck working in the mailroom.

Life at the office was perfectly gloomy until a super-happy HR manager showed up to spread joy and cheer. Now, Alucard is starving! The three friends and an intern must team up to bring the bad moods back before a forced "team-building event" ruins their lives.

It is a light, cozy story about friendship, normal magic, and fighting back against forced office pizza parties.I wrote this mockumentary style finishing Vol2 of my other book Duck you!

You can read it for free on Royal Road right here:https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/162349/misery-inc

u/AzherVayne — 4 months ago