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I Found the Best Way to Make Small Historic Conferences Work Without Conference Championship Games.

EA made the baffling decision when rolling out custom conferences to allow you to remove conference championship games, but ONLY for conferences of 12 teams or more. In order to get that old school feeling of small conferences pre-conference championship games, it makes sense to put two smaller conferences in the same conference, make two different divisions, and turn off the conference championship game. To use divisions and still get an acceptable conference scheduling that accounts for major rivalries like Red River and so forth, this lowers the cap from 20 teams in a conference to 16.

In a conference, you play 8 or 9 conference games, with no other choices in CFB26 or 27. If you have 12 teams in a conference and play 8 games, you would play 5 (division members minus yourself) games in a round robin against the rest of the division and 3 rotating games against the other side. If you have 14 teams in a conference and play 9 games, you would play 6 games in a round robin against the rest of your division, and 3 rotating games from the other side. This gets a bit more complicated when you add a protected cross division rival, because then the number of rotating games from the other side goes down by one.

In a 16 team conference, if you were to play 8 conference games with a protected rival, then you would play 7 games in a round robin against the rest of your division, and you would play the protected rival, and have no rotating games against the other division. This matters because it effectively means there are 7 teams you can never play in the regular season. This is fixed If you have 16 teams in a conference, and you play 9 conference games, because then you rotate through the rest of the league (albeit slowly). I hope you see where I’m going with this. In a 18-team conference, even with 9 games, you would play 8 games in a round robin against your division and one game against the other side. If you don’t have a protected rival, that’s fine since you rotate through everyone. But if you do (and likely should) have a protected rival, then the schedule has no rotating games.

As such, this alignment can’t be a 1-to-1 replica. The answer for this is to take what people have usually done with the Big Eight and Southwest and do that for other conferences that have a lot of overlap, like the ACC and Big East or Big Ten and PAC-8. The biggest issue is that these conferences did not fit into 8 team molds (Big Ten and PAC-8 equaling 18, ACC and Big East equaling 17, Big Eight and SWC equaling 17), so some teams need to get cut. I looked to history and which conference was the “host conference” and who was the guest conference to determine which teams would get cut. I decided I would not cut any of the “host” conference’s membership.

In the ACC-Big East merger, the ACC had 9 teams, the OG Big East had 8, so the Big East had to drop a team. They kicked out Temple historically, so Temple goes.

In the Big Eight-SWC merger, the Big Eight gave the name to the league, and is the host conference. The SWC had 9 teams; so it needed to drop one team. Houston was the last to join the SWC, joining in 1972, some 40-50 years after the majority of the conference had been together. When the SWC collapsed, Houston opted for C-USA instead of the WAC with Rice, TCU, and SMU. Houston goes.

In the Big Ten-PAC-8 merger, the Big Ten is the host league, so the PAC-8 had to drop two teams to get to 16 (no team could be moved to a 9 team division that didn’t have a required annual rival that would allow for 18 teams). In the 1950s, there was a major scandal in the PAC-8 that caused California, Stanford, UCLA, USC and Washington to abandon the league and try to form a national league with Notre Dame and the Service Academies; they planned on leaving Idaho, Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington State behind. That fell through, and they rebuilt the league again several years later, this time without Idaho. In 2023, California, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, and Washington all announced they were leaving for new conference homes on the other side of the country, leaving Oregon State and Washington State behind. Oregon State and Washington State stay behind.

The PAC-12 is loosely based on the old pre-1978 Arizona WAC with two additions of post-1978 Air Force, San Diego State and UNLV. I dropped UTEP from this lineup. Oregon State and Washington State would have been likely candidates to join if the Big Ten-PAC-8 merger would have happened.

Similarly, the MWC here is based on several iterations of the post-1998 WAC, with every team in this edition being a member of the WAC at one point.

I also moved the major independents of the 20th century into either the American or their modern homes (ACC for FSU, Big East for Miami, South Carolina to the SEC, etc etc). I did this because, outside of Notre Dame, the independent teams didn’t really play each other much so their schedules just filled up with G5 teams.

The American is host to what was early 1996 Conference-USA, sans Southern Miss and Tulane, in exchange for UAB, UCF, and USF. The other conference in the American is the major northeastern independents. Like the other merger leagues, they do not play for a conference championship.

There wasn’t a good league to merge with the SEC, so to get it to the required minimum of 12 teams, I added Tulane. I kept the divisions because most SEC teams have at least 3 rivals that should be played every year.

I also added the 2025 and 2026 playoffs to show how this turned out.

What do you think? Would you give this a try? I’m all ears for suggestions.

u/B1GSkyNorth — 24 hours ago
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I Found the Best Way to Make Small Historic Conferences Work Without Conference Championship Games.

EA made the baffling decision when rolling out custom conferences to allow you to remove conference championship games, but ONLY for conferences of 12 teams or more. In order to get that old school feeling of small conferences pre-conference championship games, it makes sense to put two smaller conferences in the same conference, make two different divisions, and turn off the conference championship game. To use divisions and still get an acceptable conference scheduling that accounts for major rivalries like Red River and so forth, this lowers the cap from 20 teams in a conference to 16.

In a conference, you play 8 or 9 conference games, with no other choices in CFB26 or 27. If you have 12 teams in a conference and play 8 games, you would play 5 (division members minus yourself) games in a round robin against the rest of the division and 3 rotating games against the other side. If you have 14 teams in a conference and play 9 games, you would play 6 games in a round robin against the rest of your division, and 3 rotating games from the other side. This gets a bit more complicated when you add a protected cross division rival, because then the number of rotating games from the other side goes down by one.

In a 16 team conference, if you were to play 8 conference games with a protected rival, then you would play 7 games in a round robin against the rest of your division, and you would play the protected rival, and have no rotating games against the other division. This matters because it effectively means there are 7 teams you can never play in the regular season. This is fixed If you have 16 teams in a conference, and you play 9 conference games, because then you rotate through the rest of the league (albeit slowly). I hope you see where I’m going with this. In a 18-team conference, even with 9 games, you would play 8 games in a round robin against your division and one game against the other side. If you don’t have a protected rival, that’s fine since you rotate through everyone. But if you do (and likely should) have a protected rival, then the schedule has no rotating games.

As such, this alignment can’t be a 1-to-1 replica. The answer for this is to take what people have usually done with the Big Eight and Southwest and do that for other conferences that have a lot of overlap, like the ACC and Big East or Big Ten and PAC-8. The biggest issue is that these conferences did not fit into 8 team molds (Big Ten and PAC-8 equaling 18, ACC and Big East equaling 17, Big Eight and SWC equaling 17), so some teams need to get cut. I looked to history and which conference was the “host conference” and who was the guest conference to determine which teams would get cut. I decided I would not cut any of the “host” conference’s membership.

In the ACC-Big East merger, the ACC had 9 teams, the OG Big East had 8, so the Big East had to drop a team. They kicked out Temple historically, so Temple goes.

In the Big Eight-SWC merger, the Big Eight gave the name to the league, and is the host conference. The SWC had 9 teams; so it needed to drop one team. Houston was the last to join the SWC, joining in 1972, some 40-50 years after the majority of the conference had been together. When the SWC collapsed, Houston opted for C-USA instead of the WAC with Rice, TCU, and SMU. Houston goes.

In the Big Ten-PAC-8 merger, the Big Ten is the host league, so the PAC-8 had to drop two teams to get to 16 (no team could be moved to a 9 team division that didn’t have a required annual rival that would allow for 18 teams). In the 1950s, there was a major scandal in the PAC-8 that caused California, Stanford, UCLA, USC and Washington to abandon the league and try to form a national league with Notre Dame and the Service Academies; they planned on leaving Idaho, Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington State behind. That fell through, and they rebuilt the league again several years later, this time without Idaho. In 2023, California, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, and Washington all announced they were leaving for new conference homes on the other side of the country, leaving Oregon State and Washington State behind. Oregon State and Washington State stay behind.

The PAC-12 is loosely based on the old pre-1978 Arizona WAC with two additions of post-1978 Air Force, San Diego State and UNLV. I dropped UTEP from this lineup. Oregon State and Washington State would have been likely candidates to join if the Big Ten-PAC-8 merger would have happened.

Similarly, the MWC here is based on several iterations of the post-1998 WAC, with every team in this edition being a member of the WAC at one point.

I also moved the major independents of the 20th century into either the American or their modern homes (ACC for FSU, Big East for Miami, South Carolina to the SEC, etc etc). I did this because, outside of Notre Dame, the independent teams didn’t really play each other much so their schedules just filled up with G5 teams.

The American is host to what was early 1996 Conference-USA, sans Southern Miss and Tulane, in exchange for UAB, UCF, and USF. The other conference in the American is the major northeastern independents. Like the other merger leagues, they do not play for a conference championship.

There wasn’t a good league to merge with the SEC, so to get it to the required minimum of 12 teams, I added Tulane. I kept the divisions because most SEC teams have at least 3 rivals that should be played every year.

I also added the 2025 and 2026 playoffs to show how this turned out.

What do you think? Would you give this a try? I’m all ears for suggestions.

u/B1GSkyNorth — 1 day ago

Wanted to clean up the modern conferences a little bit while still feeling like real life

This has a P5 G5 split. The west coast gets split up for all of the reasons it got split up in real life: overly competitive conference that fans out east did not watch because the games were played too late at night, so they always played themselved out of national title contention. They struggled to garner fan interest nationally, which creates a feedback loop of lower revenue and an inability to keep top recruits closer to home, only exacerbated by fewer and fewer kids in California playing football. So when the realignment cycle came, the biggest football brands joined their Rose Bowl cousins in the Big Ten. The snobby rich kids who played a million sports nobody has heard of joined other snobby rich kids sponsoring those sports in places where their alumni got jobs and where they recruited their student bodies in the ACC. The regional desert football powerhouses joined the Big 8.

ACC: All of the old eastern Independents, mixing the Big East and ACC together.

Big Ten: the Rose Bowl Coalition

Big XII: Big 8 and Fiesta Bowl friends

C-USA: the Metro Mid-Major Conference

SEC: SEC + SWC

For the G5s I combined them and split them up geographically-ish along rivalry lines. The American is the Eastern US + Service Academies. MAC is the Midwest. Mountain West is the Southwest. PAC-12 is the Far Western US. Sun Belt is the South.

What do you think? Who has the most fun regular season?

u/B1GSkyNorth — 30 days ago

What do you think of this conference setup?

Key: conferences listed with two columns have divisions, conferences listed in one column do not have divisions.

Lowkey I kind of enjoy messing around with the dead PAC-12. It allows all the other power conferences to have a “westward expansion” manifest destiny vibe.

Basically, ACC is oversized to accommodate the Big East teams for my BC dynasty.

Big Ten is cut down to 16 so Nebraska can be in the reformed Big 8 conference. Rutgers doesn’t bother me in the Big Ten as much as Maryland does.

SEC is the traditional SEC plus the four SWC teams who formed the Big XII. Texas and Oklahoma still play every year.

C-USA is based on the late 90s early 2000s after the WAC fell apart but before TCU, Cincinnati, Louisville, and USF left. Kind of a strong mid-major like the rebuilt Pac-12 here.

u/B1GSkyNorth — 1 month ago

No customization for the postseason really sucks.

Back in NCAA 12, 13, and 14 you could give different conferences autobids to specific BCS bowls and I was hoping that with the autobids this year we’d see that feature return. Really makes custom conference settings a lot less fun (I.e. no PAC-12 autobid if you set things back to 2022).

Just seems like it’s railroading you into fewer options.

Between that and the paywalled coach archetype I might be passing on buying this year.

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u/B1GSkyNorth — 3 months ago
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Realignment where the 1990s went very different. What do you think?

What if the 90s went crazy?

I think this is my favorite alt-history alignment. Here are the significant points of divergence. 

  • Big Eight/SWC merger starts earlier, and grabs Arkansas and TCU, instead of letting Arkansas go to the SEC in 1992.. 
  • Penn State, after being snubbed by the Big East, begins discussions with the ACC instead of the Big Ten. They join with Florida State in 1992. 
  • The SEC invites two prominent Southern independents, South Carolina and Tulane after missing on Arkansas, to bring its membership up to the required 12 teams for a conference championship game.
  • Seeing the large TV contracts the Big XII and SEC were getting, the Big Ten and Pac-10 discuss a merger, like in the 1950s when the PCC collapsed. However, negotiations fall apart around number of conference games, divisions, and travel to remote college towns. Fearing the worst in a new BCS system dominated by the SEC and Big XII, 6 West Coast teams simply agreed to join the Big Ten in 1997 rather than create a new merged conference. 
  • In the wake of the collapse of the SWC, several Texas teams joined the WAC, which was ballooning in size all the way to 16 teams. In 1998, 8 teams left the WAC (Air Force, BYU, Colorado State, New Mexico, San Diego State, UNLV, Utah, and Wyoming) to join the abandoned PAC-10. It would rename to the PAC-12. The WAC would take the best programs from the Big West, and rename to the Mountain West. Over the course of the 2000s and 2010s, the MWC invited Houston and UTEP from C-USA, New Mexico State from the Sun Belt, and would be the home of several FCS move-ups like North Texas, Texas State, UTSA, and Sam Houston State. 
  • The American was formed in 2013 after the Big East floundered in the wake of losing Virginia Tech and Miami in 2004 and Boston College and Rutgers in 2005. Eventually, independence fell out of favor when the new CFP system did not give Notre Dame a seat at the bargaining table or any particular special access. Memphis and UCF were the first call-ups and brought the league to 9 teams in 2012. Temple and UMass got nods in 2013 to reestablish the league's footprint in the Northeast. Navy joined in 2015. In 2016, after getting excluded from the NY6, Notre Dame, already being a member in every other sport left over from the Big East, decided to move its football team to the AAC alongside Army, closing out independence as a viable option in the sport.

 

For the Sun Belt, C-USA, and MAC I just geographically realigned the remainder of the teams. 

This is a tweaked version of another conference setup I didn't quite get around to trying earlier this year. We've got 6 power conferences, or probably more like 4 powers and 2 mid-majors, but I'll have to test in the playoffs. What do you think? Who has the best schedule? Is the SEC too weak compared to the B16 or Big XII? What stands out that needs fixing before it could be fun? 

u/B1GSkyNorth — 3 months ago

Divisions were a useful scheduling model from 1992-2022 that created familiarity between teams within the division by having them play each other every year, and they made conference championship races significantly easier to follow because of the round robin format the division needed to follow. Divisions are also important for the game's scheduler, because without the guardrails the divisions provide it will spit out schedules with things like 4 conference away games in a row. Conferences with divisions must have either 12, 14, or 16 members because of 9-game conference scheduling math.

General factors I considered:

  1. Making as few changes to power conference (ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, and SEC) lineups as possible
  2. Protecting as many rivalries within those conference lineups as possible
  3. Geographic matchups

Basic moves before assigning divisions:

  1. Moved Maryland and Rutgers to the ACC to get the Big Ten to 16.
  2. Moved Pitt, Louisville, and Syracuse from the ACC to the American and SMU out of the ACC
  3. Moved UCF, West Virginia, and Cincinnati from the Big XII to the American and Houston out of the Big XII
  4. Moved UMass and UConn to the American
  5. Moved East Carolina, North Texas, Tulsa, UTSA, and Charlotte out of the American
  6. All teams outside the American, ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, and SEC were pooled together and then split into groups of 12 based on geography, historical membership, and rivalries with the goal of creating four more regional MAC-style conferences

American: Super Big East combined with 1990s Metro Conference. North is more Big East, South is more C-USA. Memphis and Southern Miss have four rivalries in division, Cincinnati has four rivalries in conference, Pitt, West Virginia, and UCF have three as well. Protected cross-divisional rivalries used to bring back Cincinnati-Pittsburgh and West Virginia-Louisville. I took three teams from the ACC and three teams from the Big XII to build this into a mid-major power conference. This one took a broad sweep, but I did not consider the American to be a power conference until I added these teams, so it was fair game to make broad changes to this league.

ACC: Followed the old "Atlantic-Coastal" structure. I know, I know it's dumb to put Cal in the Atlantic division, but (1) it's just better to follow tradition rather than make up something else and (2) honestly I've had a lot of fun watching Cal terrorize the ACC with its mediocrity and generally just screw around, and I could not think of a similar name to coastal that didn't have a geographic signifier like this.

I kicked out Pitt, Louisville, and Syracuse to strengthen the American and put them with their historic rivals like West Virginia and UConn. SMU is fun but they are an island of themselves without a rival in-conference, so off you go. The Big Ten needed to trim down, so Maryland comes home to the ACC, and brings along Rutgers (whose only rival in the game is Maryland). I think the proliferation of west coast teams into all the other conferences is really fun, so Cal and Stanford stay. We need one more team to get to 15, and who better than the team that is already a voting member for all other sports and is contractually obligated to join if they were to join a league, Notre Dame.

For the divisional lineup I started with the 2012 divisions, with the Atlantic having BC, Clemson, Florida State, Maryland, NC State, and Wake Forest, while the Coastal has Duke, Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, Virginia, and Virginia Tech. From there I decided that Rutgers would need to go with Maryland (and it fits the extremely red/orange/yellow motif the ACC Atlantic had). I wanted Notre Dame to play Stanford, Miami, and BC every year, so it made sense to me to put Notre Dame in the ACC Coastal, and just protect the Notre Dame-BC game. It also balances out the league, with Clemson and FSU on one side and Miami and Notre Dame on the other. Since BC took Notre Dame's protected cross-divisional rival slot, Stanford needs to go in the same division as Notre Dame, the ACC Coastal. And to make sure the travel burden to the bay area is spread evenly across the whole conference rather than just one division, Cal would go in the ACC Atlantic, and Cal-Stanford would be the protected cross-divisional rivalry game.

B1G: After moving out Maryland and Rutgers, it made sense to go back to the East-West setup. One might think it does not make sense to put all of the West Coast teams in the same division if, in the ACC, we split them to ease the burden of travel. The difference here is in protecting rivalries. There are 20 in-conference rivalry games with this group of teams. this divisional alignment, and only this divisional alignment, protects 19 of them (Minnesota-Penn State, the least important one, is the lost game). The traditional 11-team Big Ten has this weird rivalry split where 8 teams (Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Ohio State, Penn State, and Purdue) all have a ton of history with each other, while out west Minnesota, Iowa, and Wisconsin all do their own thing, with Minnesota being the only team with historic rivalries that bridge this split. So it follows that, when you add in Nebraska, who has fit in seamlessly with that western triangle into a quadrangle of hate, you should just pair it with the other four-team pod a bit farther west, and not think too hard. Protected rivalries will be on, solely for Minnesota-Michigan.

Big XII: Once we've shed our Big East/American teams out east, we are left with thirteen teams. Houston, the newest member to the P5 of this grouping and no primary rival in this league either, is the natural cut to bring this down to 12. I opted to go down to 12, rather than add SMU at 14 teams, because this way I can make sure every conference is either 16 teams or 12 teams, and this standardization makes it much easier on the scheduler so it doesn't give you bad games. So Houston joins its fellow Texan P5 newcomer SMU in the Mountain West.

With the 12-team divisional split, a North-South split turned out to be super obvious. There's two three-team pods (BYU-Utah-Colorado and Iowa State-Kansas-Kansas State), a four team rivalry grouping in Texas & Oklahoma, and Arizona-Arizona State. So it made sense to me to put the group of four with the Arizonas, and put the groups of three together, and it makes geographic sense. It splits up the travel costs more evenly as well.

SEC: I made no changes to the lineup of the SEC because this group of 16 has really nice symmetry and balance. However, for divisions, I decided to go back to the East-West model the SEC used until 2024. The quirk here is that Missouri was in the SEC East from 2011-2023, which was done to make sure Alabama and Auburn stayed in the SEC West and played their historic rivals in that division, and maintained competitive balance across the league. So when we need to add Texas and Oklahoma to the league, it makes sense to try to follow that logic. We put Texas with its former SWC rivals Arkansas and Texas A&M in the SEC West, and we put Oklahoma with its former Big 8 rival Missouri in the SEC East. It's a little weird but there is a coherent logic to this, because it makes sure both divisions have four of the Blueblood/Big 6 teams (Florida, Georgia, Oklahoma, Tennessee in the East, and Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Texas in the West).

C-USA: Central South region+ FAU/FIU. I put FAU and FIU in this league because after setting up the Sun Belt and MAC, there were only 10 teams. FAU and FIU are a natural pair rather than splitting up any two of Georgia State, Georgia Southern, and Kennesaw State. FAU also historically had a rivalry Troy back when they were together in the Sun Belt. FIU went to the opposite division, however, to split the travel burden across the whole league, rather than just the East division, like in the ACC.

MAC: Midwest region. No explanation necessary

MWC: Southwest region. Combined all remaining Texas teams (many of whom have historic ties to the WAC, the predecessor of the Mountain West) with Tulsa (rivalries with Rice, SMU, and Houston), New Mexico and New Mexico State (rivalry with UTEP, border state, solidifies connection to Mountain region) and Air Force (mountain connection, military connection to Texas, regional, left out because of numbers from Pac-12). East-West Geographic Split just made sense, even though it is terrible from a competitive balance standpoint to put SMU and Houston together like that. If you have an option that allows me to put Houston and SMU in either the Big XII or American while making sure every G5 league stays at 12 or 14 teams, I am all ears.

Pac-12: West Region. Basically the old Mountain West but swapping out Air Force and New Mexico for a much stronger Oregon State and Washington state. South Division is just the Mountain West West division, which protects Fresno State's million rivalries with everyone in that division. Protected Rivalries on for Boise State-Fresno State and Wyoming-Hawaii.

Sun Belt: East Region. Based around the old FCS SoCon and Big South leagues. Divisional split keeps App State and Georgia Southern in the South together, while East Carolina and Marshall stay together in the North. Protected Rivalries on for App State-Marshall, Coastal Carolina-Liberty, and Charlotte-Old Dominion.

Note: If you're just going to complain about the usual things like "No Pac-12" (there is) or "you did [INSERT TEAM] dirty" (I was more than fair in considering historical success, previous conference membership, and rivalries, so I didn't "do your team dirty"), you should just move along.

What do you think? If you read this and understand what I am going for, I would love some feedback or just discussion about who has the most fun schedule or maybe suggestions that would make the divisions better.

u/B1GSkyNorth — 4 months ago