u/BearMaceBrah

Battleline keyword in 11th edition combat patrol

Does the Battleline keyword still allow you to sticky objectives in 11th edition Combat Patrol? I can find no mention of it in the app rules or anywhere else. They did bring in some unique datasheet abilities and stratagems (depending on faction) that sticky objectives.

Anyone have any idea? No mention of it means it doesn't sticky anymore? Wondering if anyone has read something I haven't.

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u/BearMaceBrah — 6 days ago

Messing around with lists in BWB 1k.

Logged a few 1k games as BWB against the purge mirror and take and hold. Opponents were Blood Angels (RCO) and Necrons (Starshatter). I know 1k isn't why most of us are here, but I tested a few lists. These games may or may not be indicative of 2k game play, but definitely had some learnings. Curious to hear your thoughts and what your idea of an ideal 1k BWB list would be in 11th.

List 1 (1000 points / BWB):
DP
Kharn + 10 Zerks
Goremongers
Jakhals
Rhino
FF
Helbrute

Findings:
The purge mirror into BA RCO was basically against the same army. It became an awkward staredown very quickly because the Purge mirror doesn't reward multiple NML objective control and I doubt anyone is controlling the opp home in the first 2 turns. No one wanted to overextend and we kept out of charging distance. Knowing that we can keep secondaries meant no one was going for early turn secondary points (Engage, etc...) because it meant losing 1/4 to 1/3 your army for 3 vp. It was only when I brought down the FF from strategic reserves did it force a response. If someone committed to a trade and did not wipe the enemy unit, it was gg. This rewarded playing units of 10+ or tankier units.
Goremongers, extra Jakhals, Chaos Spawn seemed useless as there's no point in trying to get NML objective control. Whatever points they obtained from secondaries were outmatched from opp Primary scoring by getting easily shot off the board. Maybe you could send Goremongers or Spawn straight for your opponents home on T2/T3 to threaten those end of turn points and cause opp to turtle back a little bit.

The take and hold game was just a blood bath for the central obj trading units. I sat back in early turns until I could arrange sending the Helbrute or x8B into their back line shooting. It was the only way I put any pressure on as I felt sending anything to stop their T1/T2 primary early would just put me on the losing end of trading. This led to sacrificing primary in early turns, but allowed me time to try and cut off shooting support. Then I started heavily trading at the middle obj. Smaller units were more useful in this matchup as their death didn't directly contribute to swings in VP, but still seemed to not pull their weight like in 10th...

TLDR:
The purge mirror against a similar melee army is awkward as hell. Without a proper shooting threat in that kind of game, nobody is doing anything for awhile...

Other lists that I tested that performed similarly or worse. Curious to see which you think would be better.

List 2 (990 points / BWB):
Kharn + 10 zerks
SB + 8B
Goremongers
Jakhals
Rhino
Spawn
Helbrute

List 3 (1000 points / BWB):
Kharn + 10 zerks
SB + 8B
x8B
Jakhals
Rhino
FF

List 4 (1000 points / BWB):
Kharn + 10 zerks
MOE + 10 zerks
8B
Jakhals
Rhino
FF

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u/BearMaceBrah — 8 days ago

Detachment possibilities in 1k games

Assuming BW will be 3 DP, what are our thoughts here?

Also assuming existing detachments become 2DP... taking stock we have KDK, Goretrack, Possessed SB, and CoB. (with VoW becoming a 1 DP detachment focused on character models)

We are getting 1 DP detachments focused on basically Maulerfiends and terminators (of which none of our characters can lead atm...)

With 2 DP to spend, all of these seem a bit awkward to run in 1k as they are all hyper focused on specific units with a very limited pool of unit points. Combining two of the three 1 DP detachments seems even more awkward.

What are people's thoughts? Do any folks have experience running Goretrack or Possessed SB in 1k games for example?

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u/BearMaceBrah — 28 days ago