Drama background:

1. In South Korea, while the constitution guarantees religious freedom, it generally ends when you leave the church, temple, etc. Therefore, while you have the right to practice your religion, the schools and workplaces don't have obligation to accommodate them. ("You have to pray? Do it at your church, why here? This is not your church").

2. It's not that uncommon for job interviews to ask "do you have to wear that hijab? It's against our dress code" or "do you have to go to church on Sundays? Then how will you work on Sunday shifts?" Religions have been generally considered as something optional since 1392 and that sentiment still prevails.

3. Like many country subs r/Korea has more non-Koreans than Koreans

4. Mods are also mostly non-Koreans who end up banning a lot of replies from Korean users.

The content of the interview as a background:

Potential Korean employer: "So are thinking about front desk work?"

Muslim Applicant: "Yes"

Potential Korean employer: "Your appearance is different than Koreans to begin with..."

"You would have to take this off (hijab) Would that be possible?"

Muslim Applicant: "No"

Potential Korean employer: "Then there will be restrictions in the hotel industry"...

Muslim Applicant: "Since we are Muslim, we must always wear the hijab, so..."

Potential Korean employer: "But you need to get a job here and you need to fit into Korean Culture, right?"

Potential Korean employer: "If you want to work in our country..."

Potential Korean employer: "It can be uncomfortable but you need to adapt to it."

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Disclaimer: The post is in Arabic and it was translated using Reddit's autotranslate + Gemini when reddit couldn't translate

r/Jordanians is a fairly quiet community of local residents of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan to share ideas. So typically it's a fairly quiet place.

As the clock hit September 11 in local time, people began to offering competing ideas:

Should 9/11 be celebrated? Should it not be since Americans did it themselves? Should we mourn given the number of people that was killed subsequently, all within 20 minutes of each other.

Lively drama occurred between 12:41AM local time and 2AM local time. It starts with a redditor posting a birthday cake emoji to celebrate 9/11 anniversary.

9/11 Anniversary 🎂

• ✈️🏢🏢🔥🎉
• we lost 19 of our best men on that day 💥💀
• Are you worried about killing more than 3,000 innocent people? You are really just a piece of trash
  • Ok, White Boy, go wipe the air for the Americans. By God, if you were born there, you wouldn't be defending it this much

With that, some redditors bring up the consequences 9/11 brought on the region.

• (this is in English) U r just a stupid lil boy who feels good for something ended two and half decades ago while ur people r getting fked up every day u r desperate to feel that ur people did something while u r getting fked up every day lol, let me spit this to u arabs r fked up people with all their attitudes even if Americans or whatever r shit but still arabs r among the most retarded people ever , feel happy this day cuz u won't feel accomplished till the next year i guess
  • Hey smart boy, do you know anything about how buldg 7 collapsed? And why ? Do you know why the owner of the building signed up for insurance for this specific type of events a week before it happened?
• Damn we ain't beating the allegations smh
• The number of martyrs in Iraq from the American invasion exceeds one million martyrs Not to mention America's impact on Iraq to this day

This post inspires another poster to create a thread where he starts to question "Why are we celebrating this? It's possible that Americans did it themselves and/or it's been disaster for us and the only people who benefited from 9/11 are Americans and Israelis"

September 11, 2001 is not something to celebrate

>

"The post is long, you can skip it. September 11, 2001 is not something to celebrate as an Arab Muslim.

>1. Point One First of all, until now there is no definitive proof confirming that Osama bin Laden was the perpetrator; all narratives, stories, and evidence come from the American side. Even some of the photos and videos are strange, and some physicists have questioned the credibility of the collisions and the likelihood that an airplane impact could cause such destruction—especially the most controversial topic, the third tower.

>2. Point Two America has a long history of engineering events, even at the expense of the lives of its own soldiers and people, to achieve its interests, justify its actions, and gather the maximum amount of support for what it intends to do. Examples:

>The Gulf of Tonkin Incident (1964): The administration of President Lyndon Johnson claimed that North Vietnamese ships attacked American destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin, and used the incident to secure congressional support to escalate the Vietnam War. Later, it was discovered that the attack was not from Vietnam, but rather an inside job. Why did I mention this point? So you know that America, for the sake of its interests, sacrifices lives, and there are many such historical examples.

>3. Point Three (The Most Important) The damage of the September 11, 2001 attacks on Arabs and Muslims, and the primary objective behind it: No one was harmed by the attack except Arabs and Muslims. It resulted in actions by America against Arabs, justified by the 9/11 attacks:

>Afghanistan: A war was launched on Afghanistan and it was occupied under the pretext of the Taliban harboring Osama bin Laden. The funny thing is that they couldn't find Osama bin Laden in Taliban-held areas, but they managed to occupy it, and American rule remained there for 21 years until it finished its objective.

>Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen: The biggest indirect sufferers after this attack. American intervention in the Middle East increased after the attack, backed by international support. Everyone knows what happened to these countries after the American intervention.

>Saudi Arabia: The most directly affected after Afghanistan. After September 11, Saudi Arabia faced massive international pressure because some of the hijackers were Saudi nationals, and because of the environment bin Laden came from. To this day, Saudi Arabia's image is tarnished.

>Jordan: Affected indirectly, with increased American intervention in Jordan and attempts to drag Jordan into the issue during political disputes.

>4. Point Four The impact of the attack on Muslims and Arabs around the world:

>Increase in Islamophobia. Discrimination in airports and travel. The image of Islam in the media. Wars in Islamic and Arab countries. Public support for Israel... etc.

>5. Point Five (Information regarding Osama bin Laden) Osama fought the Soviet Union with clear support from America, and there were training operations for resistance fighters facilitated by America.

>Finally, most of what happened was either planned by America or, if not planned, it was disastrous for Muslims and Arabs, and America and Israel were the ones who benefited."

• From the heart of New York, I'm telling you that everyone knows and is aware that it wasn't us who did it and we have nothing to do with it. So drop the nonsense, and your celebrations make them feel like we actually did it. Besides, what do we as Jordan have to do with the damn 9/11? Or Palestine?
  • Man, I swear to God it's herd mentality—they don't research, they don't bother themselves.
  • Driven by their malice, they've stuck a piece of iron [steel beam] in every state as a memorial to the event. When I visited Maryland in 2022 (4 hours away from New York), [I saw it]. Demonization of the entire people against Islam and Arabs in general
• Idiots are the ones who celebrate it, I swear to God they memorized [the lines] without understanding
• In addition to conspiracy theories, Jews, Freemasonry, religious war, etc. Of course, there are some that have evidence and events that make one doubt his situation

Then people start accusing OP of treating the US like God which he vehemently refutes

• May God admit you to Paradise. Now someone like this will show up to you. Who knows, people are clueless, I swear.
  • Screenshot says: "May God misguide [you], how you are being fooled. And damn America, which has become your lord that you worship and fear, damn it, may it dry up and wither."
  • True, America is shit, but you are submissive just like the author of the post (this inspires the next post)
  • OP: We are submissive?! You are a naive, ignorant fool, the reason behind the decline of Arab thought. You are a physical and human embodiment of pure ignorance, populism, and empty heroics.
  • The phrase 'decline of Arab thought' coming from you alone proves that you are a submissive slave to the West, the kind who doesn't even wash after they crap on him, you submissive, low-bred person. If our thinking doesn't appeal to you, go to them, prostrate yourself before them, and seek their approval if they'll even have you.
  • OP: Kid, you're a keyboard warrior handing out disbeliever/sinner tags to everyone passing by. At the end of the day, you're just a minor child—get lost
  • OP: I have read a lot about the issue of America's presence, its political interference, and the war on Muslims 60% due to the September events

Some accuse the OP of being a conspiracy theorist

• Oh man, the very first point completely dismantles all your arguments, because the guy [bin Laden] admitted to the events in recordings found in 2001: you're going to tell me they were fabricated and acting? He replied in 2004 by sending a message in which he confessed that he was the one who arranged and planned the attacks. Second of all, no, it's normal for a building to fall. You need to look at the engineering of the two towers, the spot and exact angle of the impact, and the temperature that reached 1000 degrees Celsius due to the furniture inside the towers. Not to mention that the collision horribly affected the structure of both buildings and caused the upper floors to crash down with their full weight, bringing the towers down. Now, if you tell me there are engineers who said it's a lie and impossible, I'd like to tell you that there was a doctor who promoted a health regimen that caused the deaths of god knows how many people, whose first name starts with Diaa Al-Awadi. Simply put, there are frauds and ignoramuses whose only goal is to become famous and make money just by coming out to contradict science, engineering, and logic, it's just pure nonsense, nothing more. This is aside from the fact that the towers were actually targeted before, but the plan back then was with a car bomb.
  • OP: My friend's admission supports the last thing I said, which is that Osama bin Laden was either an agent or a toy. Secondly, those who convinced you of these matters and that the influences that helped in the extent of the destruction are engineers, so it is very likely that they lied. Thirdly, my main topic is that it is not something you celebrate, and you are the party that loses greatly in all aspects

Some tell him to focus what's happening now

• No one gives a f bro, we have a million geneside to worry about

And this one inspires another post that accuses the OP of the second post of being America's defender

The submissive people who defended America in this sub

>Honestly, I don't care who blew it up, the important thing is that 3,000 Americans died (true, I lack humanity, I take pleasure in the death of an American). I wish you knew the number of Iraqis America killed: 200,000 human beings, and the number of Afghans America killed: 176,000 human beings. And you can see, of course, the Gaza war that America supports militarily and politically, and how many Palestinians have been killed. In short, the cause of all the problems in the Middle East is America. If you look at the numbers, you will see that 3,000 murdered Americans do not equal 1% of the number of our Arab and Muslim brothers whom America has killed, so don't act like the American ambassador of peace

• Two thousand Americans died and now they have human rights. More than 100 thousand Iraqis have become racists and are talking about who brought this to their country and are gloating. racist double standards
• "If I met you, I would kiss your head for these words. This is what we are saying. Man, the siege of Iraq alone, in which a million Iraqi children died, this is enough to burn America from stem to stern. However, the present is a child of the moment and does not tie previous events to subsequent ones, but rather you find in it neither loyalty nor innocence. The man [bin Laden], may God have mercy on him, even though we disagreed with him, used to send many letters to successive American administrations demanding the withdrawal from the Middle East and the abandonment of support for Israel. He found no other choice than to drag America to the land of the Afghans until it is defeated and disintegrates, just as happened to Russia

The OP of the second post - "We shouldn't celebrate 9/11 because it brought more pain to our people" show up to defend himself, but is downvoted to oblivion (to the sub's standards)

• No one is defending [them], but the damage of the event was many times over greater on Arabs and Muslims please wake up for God's sake. Research the topic
  • Look, I'm not with killing people in this way, but anyone who thinks that if this event hadn't happened, our enemies would have become our friends, or would have eased up on their crimes against us, or would have lacked the pretext to do whatever they wanted to do is mistaken, so that I don't use another ugly word. And he needs to read and research more and look at history to make sure that neither America nor those like them are waiting for a reason from us to do what they see fit to ensure their interests, even if that means killing millions of human beings directly or indirectly.
  • OP: I'm not talking about the result of the explosion; I'm talking about those who defend the Americans and call those who mock this event terrorists (the Arab became a terrorist and the American became the victim)

A redditor tries to interject and say that the world under American hegemony is preferable to other alternatives (Russia, China) but is quickly downvoted

• May God protect America from all evil. You do not know without it what would happen to us from Russia
  • OP: You must be joking or were you serious?
  • Without America and Europe, the world would be dirtier than what we are in. The West is better for us than the East
  • OP: I'm still convinced you're joking
  • By God, I am telling you very much that the whole world is under America's shield, especially Europe, under America's protection. If it weren't for America, Europe would be a Russian piece
  • Now I might agree with you that America is a billion times more merciful than the atheists of China and Russia. These are criminals, criminals, not rational people. The Americans have nothing on their side, but you were not successful in formulating your comment. God does not protect America.
  • If America collapses, the world will be ruled by China and Russia, and since you know that they are the dirtiest creatures, you will certainly not accept that the rule goes to them, and if God does not protect America, the rule will go to communism, then you are contradictory in my opinion, how can God not protect America when you do not want the Russians to control the world without America

My family originates from China, but during the Huang Chao rebellion in 874AD, we became refugees and settled in the Korean peninsula.

So I guess you could say that we are settlers from China.