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Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/worldcup/comments/1uo6mf4/folarin_balogun_available_for_usmnt_vs_belgium_as/

Context: Folarin Balogun is a striker for the USMT in world cup, whose having an exceptional tournament so far. In the US's r32 match against Bosnia and Herzegovina, Balogun received a controversial red card. In football/soccer, when a player receives a red card during the match, they are not only ejected from the game, but suspended from the playing the following game, thus, Balogun would miss the US's round of 16 game against Belgium. Today, Infantino, the head of FIFA, rescinded Baloguns suspension, after a supposed conversation with president Trump.

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Fuck it, we Ball - FIFA longtimers here acting like corruption is a brand new thing that hasn't been happening for the last 70+ years. Now that the US is a little more heavily involved y'all wanna have a conniption over it. Go USA 🇺🇸 >I despise people like you. Always claiming you're the victim, so it's "your turn" to enjoy the fruits of corruption, and it's only fair. But that's literally what every corrupt person on the planet says to themselves. >>Do you get as salty about the rampant corruption elsewhere, or do you only have a special place in your heart for the US? >>>Oh the "salty" meme, you NPCs are really busting out the classics. Just the corruption that involves Epstein's best friend, actually. Nobody else, ever, you caught me. >>>>What does Epstein have to do with the world cup? If you think that's a "gotcha" moment, you should know the vast majority of Americans want those files released too. Not the burn you think it is. >>>>>Epstein's literal best friend gave you this gift. Enjoy it. >>>>>>Again, mentioning Epstein isnt the flex your think it is. >>>>>>>Maybe if you repeat it a few more times it will become true. Like I said, enjoy the gift of corruption from his best friend. Savor it.

Euros punching air afraid of the team of a country that cares so little about the sport that they had to use a different name because it was already taken. If Belgium can’t beat a country whose best athletes play other sports than that alone is embarrassing. >Who created the term? Tell me who created the term used? Was it the Socceroos? No, it wasn't. Tell me who created the term! >>Are you even literate? That isn’t even relevant to the post. Americans don’t like the sport. I don’t know what a Socerroo even is nor do I care. >>>LMAO! Don't know what a socceroo is, don't care, can't tell me who created the term. Apparently it's you that doesn't care for the sport and you're here why exactly? 🤣 >>>>Your literacy is still subpar. No where in the post does it say who created the term soccer or that America did. It’s entirely irrelevant. The fact the US calls it by a different name than basically the entire world highlights how little Americans care. Try reading again slowly, word by word. Then attempt to process how the words interrelate to form a thought. You can do it! It’s never too late to learn how to read! I’m rooting for you. >>>>>Stfu....YOU obviously don't care and not sure why you're here. Learn who created the term and what a socceroo is, jackass. America hates the sport so much huh? Tell me how it is that this cup has beat the attendance record previously held by the '94 cup? Actually, don't even worry about answering. You clearly know fuck all.

This is incredible. How the hell does this happen? It seems incredibly problematic. Will they be suspending red cards for everyone? For star players only? For WCs only? Jesus. Now the senior players can play however they want. >It’s happened before on questionable red cards, you can’t appeal but FIFA can deem it not suspension worthy, like this one very much was. >>Wasn't really questionable though was it, he could've snapped his ankle. Sets a terrible precedent >>>So all the experienced commentators like Henry, zlatan, Landon Donovan etc called it anywhere from dubious to bullshit. Yet, you in your infinite wisdom disagree with all the experts who said it was a bad call. You don’t even think it’s questionable. >>>>All the ones on American television 😂 who do you think pays their wages... >>>>>Ah so you choose to believe they are lying to feed a conspiracy, rather than simply giving their opinion? Ok.

It was a shitty red card. Now we have precedent for future shit red cards to be removed. People should be happy. >"shitty red card" Balagun already missed 30+ min of the match and USA played with only 10 men. Isn't that enough of a punishment? Instead of banning a player for an additional game why not treat the next match as if the guy already has a yellow? >>Because that would give players a free pass to do stupid shit. Let's say you are playing a team with one stand out star player that they won't win without. With your suggestions someone could commit a red card level offence against him to get him out the game and be back playing in the next one. >>>Sure homie we'll change the rules mid-tournament for the shithole host country only >>>>Such a shithole that visitors for the cup have generally been loving it. >>>>>Man I loved my vacation in Tanzania that doesn't mean.. you know

Screw all of the haters on this sub! I feel pumped that Balogun is able to play tomorrow night and I just want to see us make it to the round of eight! >Thanks to Marc Rubio and Trump, FIFA broke their own rules… >>You could say they broke their own rules by improper in-game use of VAR. >>>No because their var rules allow the use of var if the var referee thinks a red card was missed and they can use sliw motion to determine the point of contact. No rules were broken. You are being fed lies in your corrupted americans media >>>>I looked into this and you’re correct. VAR was invoked properly. I still contend it should not have been ruled a red card offense. >>>>>This started so well with you admitting you didn’t knew the rules but looked it up and i was right. But you think that contact should not be a red… there is not a single football/soccer fan outside of the United States that sees the image and don’t think it’s a red And all we know from the decision is Trump called Infantino and FIFA decided to cancel the red with no explanation. This is a first in world cup history and clear corruption

Eurotards: “Ronaldo ban lifted good. Balogun ban lifted bad.” >Europoors here : Ronaldo ban lifted Bad. Balogun ban lifted bad. >>“Air conditioning bad. Balogun ban lifted bad.” >>>"P*dophile president" good for me said the yankee >>>>Trump is a piece of shit but don't be a bigot. When you talk like you are acting the same way trump supporters do. All bigotry is bad. >>>>>I didn't vote for him so I can sit on my ivory tower with peace of mind. Do better, for the sake of the whole world

So Americans can only win if they cheat, nothing new >It was a terrible card to begin with sit down scrub >>your p*dophile in chief is the only one who called it a "terrible card" >>>Trump knows nothing about sports in general. Don't deflect. This was fifa's decision. >>>>the president literally came out with his opinion on the red card being unjust on twitter. >>>>>That doesn't mean it influenced the decision. And if Trump says he influenced the decision, he definitely did not bc we all know he is a liar.

No, fuck that. Fuck this whole tournament. We’re going to start lifting bans as favours now? Fuck this, fuck Infantino and fuck anyone who supports this. If the US plays him I pray they lose their match in spectacular fashion. >Salty because we have a competitive team for once? >>Any team would be competitive when you have the FIFA president in your back pocket duh. >>>Explain your logic behind your comment. How did Infantino help us score 4 goals against the team that eliminated Germany and France could only muster a PK goal against? >>>>I don't think you need Infantino to help you tie your shoes. >>>>>If beating Paraguay is as easy as tying your shoes then why was it so hard for France and why wasn’t Germany able to win? >>>>>>because group stage is the regular season and knockout is when the actual tournament begins. stomping on 3rd place paraguay in a weak ass group definitely is not the flex you think it is. >>>>>>>You’re saying Paraguay sucks but they eliminated Germany and France struggled. You can’t have it both ways.

Look at the Americans who hadn't watched a "soccer" match in their life until a few weeks ago celebrating blatant corruption. You can't make this shit up. >Why is it corruption? By the rules it sounds like it was a misuse of VAR right? What's the corruption? >>Before Ronaldo’s, it’s never happened that a player’s disqualification was postponed by a year. There’s no reason why it should happen this time. >>>So new rules are always corruption? Seems to be working as intended >>>>There was never a rule change >>>>>The specific text and designation of Article 27 was introduced as part of a massive overhaul in the 2019 edition of the FIFA Disciplinary Code, which officially went into effect on July 15, 2019 Just using the rule as intended >>>>>>"A comprehensive overhaul occurred with the 2019 edition, effective 15 July 2019, which reduced the code's articles from 147 to 72 for conciseness and restructured provisions to streamline disciplinary proceedings, particularly by centralizing authority in the Disciplinary Committee for match manipulation cases and mandating simplified evidence exchange to minimize correspondence." Nothing of relevance to the case. There was no rule change. >>>>>>>I’ve heard they did it with Ronaldo, Caicedo, and otamendi this tourney. So it seems to be used a lot. If this is just the first time they’re implementing the rule it seems new. (15 more comments of these two arguing)

I'm feeding off the tears of all the people crying over this. Was a bullshit red card in the first place due to the VAR, rightfully rescinded. He's hoping it's a good match tomorrow >It was a very unfortunate, yet legitimate red card. Come on. >>It should have been a yellow card. There was no intent, and live commentators (even ones from other countries) agreed it should not have rose to the level of red. There's no dispute that it's a foul. There's dispute to the level at which it was given. >>>This is the world cup of "soccer" fans learning the rules of football, crazy. Do you know the rules? Do you see intend ANYWHERE when it comes to this kind of foul? >>>>Read below in my comment to another response. You have selective reasoning. >>>>>The fact some pundits think it's not a red card means corruption is ok? Don't bring Fox here ... shit media anyway. British media said it was red. Seems like only in the US they contest it. Great job >>>>>>Men in Blazers, a whole bunch of broadcasters, and others dispute that. You only hate that the US got this, not that it was reversed. If this were one of the British teams, you'd rejoice. And again, where was your outrage when Messi did the same action and didn't even get warned? Where was it when Ronaldo got the same treatment to excuse his red card and allow him to play in the first two world cup games?

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/1un7bko/usa_250_flightradar24/

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Graffiti for rich people, but more damaging for the environment. >Redditors are insufferable. >>Says a Redditor named Trump's Cum My On A Hole >>>No, it's worse than that. The uppercase letters correctly separate the words. >>>>Trumps Cummy Onahole. Not certain how that's worse? What's an "onahole"? Is "cummy" meaningful slang beyond, of or pertaining to cum? >>>>>I'm not sure I can describe an onahole better than Google. Cummy here just means, yes, cum-crusted/stained.

The fact that THIS upsets them is just straight up mental illness >Our world is dying bro, sometimes its hard to crack a smile >>[removed] >>>"Don't be such a fucking pussy" is gonna be a great epitaph for humanity's tombstone. >>>>Doomer gooner. >>>>>We are doomed of we don't do something now broh >>>>>>Get to work fixing it then bud >>>>>>>See that's the real doomer shit. "Oh well what can you do, might as well ruin shit faster before we go." Cowardly and stupid.

This country is such a joke >The fact that this makes you mad just showes how unhinged you are >>You’re right, we should be happy about our country being run by corrupt pdophiles. >>>Lmao bro it's a private plane having fun and look what you're turning it into, are you seriously this miserable? >>>>Just say you like pdophiles, it's less words >>>>>Actual bot >>>>>>Lol, says the hidden post history account P*dophile lover! >>>>>>>lmao, my history isn't hidden at all clanker >>>>>>>>It was at first, maybe reddit just sucks lol I'm not a bot, I don't mindlessly suck off Trump or Israel

Not feeling patriotic this year >There’s nothing to celebrate, unless you’re a fascist, a p*dophile, a r#pist, or stupid rich. >>You live in one of the most prosperous countries in the world celebrating being one of the only governments on the planet to last over a century. Crime is falling, GDP is growing, and there's a line out the door of people who want to enter. But your doom scrolling of your echo chamber has convinced you to be miserable because that's what drives your engagement. >>>do people eat GDP? >>>>Some people eat paint chips. >>>>>i can tell

country of the great epstein files. >In current news DOJ did NOT turn over redacted files when judge ordered them to do so! Fucking great country right?!?!??! >>Schizophrenia detected >>>The fuck? This is legit Google it dipshit. Oo also pdo supporter detected! Gtfo scum bag >>>>Schizophrenia detector goin nuts now, off the charts. >>>>>Lmfao says the person who supports pdophiles.....might want to go check yourself in my friend >>>>>>Who said who I supported? This is why you're schizo. You're making up a reality of your own. Are people chasing you in this world? >>>>>>>Says the person who commented on a comment regarding the DOJ not handing over redacted Epstein file? How is this schizophrenic please explain yourself? >>>>>>>>The post is about a plane celebrating the 250th birthday of the country by flying around in a pattern on radar. You turned it into DOJ EPSTEIN FILES HAHA HAHA P*DOPHILIA WOW GREAT COUNTRY HAHA ... Brother, that's insane. It's the fucking 4th of July, we've celebrated this day for a quarter millennium now. Nothing in the post supported any politician or party.

Built on slavery >Pretty hard to find a country older than 200 years that didn’t benefit from slavery in some way or another. Not justifying it, just saying calling out one country for something almost all had a hand in is a little insincere. >>Pretty hard to find a country older than 200 years, period. Folks don't realize the US is actually one of the longest standing continuous governments in the world at this point, an impressive feat for a legal system. >>>"Pretty hard to find a country older than 200 years, period" Not terrible hard. Russia, Scotland, England, Wales, Sweden, France, Norway, Denmark, Netherlands, Spain, China, Japan, Mongolia, Vietnam, Siam, Brazil, Portugal, Argentina, Mexico, Chile, Peru, Egypt, Canada (not independent until about 60 years ago), Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Paraguay, Bolivia (just hitting the 200 year mark I believe), Uruguay, Haiti (second independent country in the Americas after the USA), coasta Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicraugua. And that's just the easy ones for me. Most of those are old colonial powers or former Spanish empire released by Napoleons wars. Of course the reality is that your comparing governments to countries. Countries can end up with many governments like France and Germany. The country is old though. Well France is, Germany is 150ish. In that case, the US is probably somewhat lucky but it's also not 250. The US constitution wasn't made in 1776. >>>>Few of these qualify. In the 20th century, China went through a dynastic transition and then a revolution, Russia saw a revolution and a state collapse, Japan had its constitution rewritten by a foreign power. Etc. I'm not talking about countries with militaries strong enough to prevent loss of territorial independence (though the US would be first in that as well). I was commenting on having a legal system well-designed enough to ensure a continuous system of government.

Do better in your next 250 America. Way things are headed I doubt you will >America is the best, so we'll see >>You a fan of America’s history/ Mr “wipe out a whole civilization” today? >>>Bow down or bow out muh fucka >>>>??ok😂 So that was a yes or no question btw, is that a yes? You like slavery and trump etc >>>>>He loves pdophiles >>>>>>Stop telling on yourself. >>>>>>>Yawn, you done here? >>>>>>>>No one was talking about pdophiles, yet you brought them up. That's because you're always thinking about p#dophiles. Pretty telling (11 more comments of these two arguing)

I am a pilot and can assure you I am not rich. Also we need to build a lot of hours just doing shit randomly so if this was time building it’s awesome >this was not a student pilot in training. News reports and flight tracking organizations confirmed the flight was completed by a licensed private pilot. So your comment doesnt even make sense for this so its a stupid stunt that wasted fuel and impacted the environment for nothing and didn't even help trainees get logged flight hours Literally took 3 minutes to look this up and write this comment >>Just because you have your PPL doesn’t mean you aren’t working for more certifications or ratings that require a ton of logged hours. >>>Great point except the pilot who conducted this specific flight, Eric Genier, is a highly advanced aviator who serves as a Chief Pilot already so again no pilot is being benefited from this to advance their training/certification but here will come the next comment of well you have to keep your skills sharp >>>>You're not making the compelling point you think you are, why do you think he's so good? And as a chief pilot you're expected to fly and maintain proficiency. God these reddit commenters wear me out. >>>>>He did not do this merely to maintain basic FAA proficiency. Eric Genier is a highly active professional pilot who flies commercially and serves as a Chief Pilot, his regulatory currency is already heavily maintained through his daily career operations. Instead, this was done as a highly deliberate, promotional, and patriotic passion project. His business, the Ohio Flight Center, is known for pulling off these massive holiday sky-art demonstrations, having previously spent 10 hours flying a "Merry Christmas" script over the state. Yawn you just dont like that it's a waste to the point others are literally comparing it to people traveling to see their families. You redditors are insufferable >>>>>>Why do you give a fuck? >>>>>>>Wasteful idiots 🙄 looking at random writings in the sky you will never see while the great lakes get devastated

why is everyone hating lmao >America Bad is really big right now >>[deleted] >>>It’s funny how the really young accounts complain the most about the people on Reddit >>>>What's my excuse? At least 4 comments everyday for 9 years is crazy work my guy >>>>>Youre trying to clown on me for using the same social media you’re using. It’s pretty pathetic. Go enjoy the 4th of July. >>>>>>Its not using it that's the problem, its the frequency of which you're using it >>>>>>>Oh is that not allowed?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N4936T/history/20260703/1007Z/5A1/5A1 It’s real. >Gps signals can be spoofed and upload yo any flight tracking app. >>Brother, spoofing ADSB is very illegal. No way someone would risk that for a dumb july 4th celebration. >>>How does a plane turn at such a sharp angle as in the top left of the shape? Is this person doing maneuvers in a single prop Cessna like that? >>>>The route stretches horizontally from Cleveland to Toledo... over 100 miles. You're looking at a zoomed out map that shows the entire image. Zoom in on the "corner" and youll see the plane's actual turn. tight angle turn

(OP) Proof : https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n4936t#407bf3fc >Cool, what a fucking waste of money >>It was a hobbyist in a small private plane. Flying for fun.. >>>Exactly, fucking people here have a stick in their ass. What this guy did is hardly any different from someone driving a hummer just because they can. >>>>Yes, use another vehicle that is terrible for the environment, terrible for the safety of pedestrians and a waste of fucking money lol. >>>>>Anyone in this comment section that does not drive the most fuel efficient sedan is just being a huge fucking hypocrite.

America Bad is so hot right now >America is bad, why should i celebrate them being bad? >>Then either leave if you are here, or don't come here lol. Life in America is great if you have more than 2 braincells. >>>I don't expect you to understand by the phrasing of my comment that I'm clearly not American. Education isn't exactly your strong suit over there is it? >>>>I make at least 5x more here than I would in any other country and have a nice home/yard. Why would I want to live in Europe or anywhere else? You have nothing to offer me but an accent lol There's a reason higher salaried employees from Canada try to work in the US. It's actually a big problem for Canada in the tech sector. >>>>>Congrats. >>>>>>Unfortunate your country doesn't provide value for high level employees

Direct link to the AMA: Andy Burnham here - AMA

To be clear, not all of Burnham's responses have provoked negative responses or were otherwise dramatic - I have only featured the ones in this post that did.

Background Context

The Labour Party is currently in control of the UK's government; after the departure of Keir Starmer as PM, Burnham is the only currently-declared Labour candidate for PM.

For background, you can read more on Wikipedia about Andy Burnham here, Kemi Badenoch here, and the Triple Lock here: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Pension_(United_Kingdom)#Pensions_Act_2007)

The Drama

• Kemi Badenoch, the Leader of the Opposition, pops in to the AMA to challenge Burnham by writing:

>Hi Andy, Kemi here. Whilst you’re answering softball questions on Reddit, I’ve been in Yorkshire answering questions from the press.

>You’re going to be Prime Minister soon so it’s time to start acting like one. Come out from hiding, face a proper press conference and submit yourself to scrutiny and some tough questions.

>Are you up for it?

Prompting this response from Burnham:

>Fair challenge, Kemi - but don’t forget it’s only two weeks since I faced questions from 74,000 members of the public in Makerfield!

and this commentary from a third Reddit user:

>The year is 2026. The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and the Leader of the Opposition are having a Reddit debate.

• In response to the top-scoring question (~950 points):

>Thanks for the AMA Andy, is it time to abolish the triple lock? Or at least have that discussion?

Burnham wrote:

>I appreciate there’s a lot of debate about this but it is important that the commitment in the manifesto stands.

The score of his response is hidden currently but based on the number and tone of the response comments this response is not being well-received.

• In response to a question asking if he would call for new elections, Burnham wrote

>No. As I said in my speech on Monday, I’m going to work to the 2024 manifesto.

This prompts allegations of hypocrisy on Burnham's part, as he had called for the Tories to call snap elections in a similar situation.

The AMA is ongoing and this post will be updated with any notable updates.

Update: The Independent has the following piece on the AMA: Andy Burnham announces he will keep controversial pensions triple lock when he become prime minister | PM-in-waiting ruled out an early election, backed a better post-Brexit trade deal with the EU and chose Martin Scorsese’s Goodfellas among his favourite films

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/dankindianmemes/comments/1ulel5z/btw_according_to_lore_she_was_supposed_to_be

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Aint no way an indian subreddit is making racist comments and jokes on a black woman's appearance aint no way. >Gets Woke/NPC >>Went through your history. Racism, classism and misogyny. You will never peace. You will be alone mentally and emotionally. Even if your folks manage to do arranged marriages for you, you'll never be happy. Amen. >>>Are you r*tarded or what and what you know about my relationship. What are you saying is incoherent verbal diarrhoea >>>>Lmao suuure small Indian man. Suuuure >>>>>They always say when they don't have any argument they will crash out 🥀 and call you anything just to feel good 💀 >>>>>>Lmao no crash out here. You're the ultimate crash. I mean look all the nasty posts and comments you make.

Cry more. Lupita is pretty. Grabbing a random screenshot is pathetic. Edit: I absolutely love that Nolan has managed to rage bait all the losers across the planet. Keep crying 😁 Helen is a mythical character and she can be played by anyone. Of course I can’t expect any better from a country like ours that still cannot manage to depict Krishna as neela megha shyama (dark like storm cloud) >Would you be okay if a pretty white person acted in Moana ? Would you be okay if a pretty white person acted in African epics, what about indian Epic would you be okay to race swap them? The problem is not being pretty or not the problem is cultural appropriation, Greeks are anyway minority in the world and in Hollywood and why would you take their stories and replace their characters with different ethnic groups what is good about it? >>It's a false equivalence brother >>>Why so? epics from other native culture are correct comparison isn't it? Do you think Greek and western epics are not as important as other native Epics? >>>>You talked about moana but don't know that moana is literally about representation of a culture whereas helen of Troy is nothing of sort, she is not representing her culture, she is just a character in a story >>>>>Why? how can that be ? when we read about Greek culture isn't these stories the first to be mentioned? I don't know muxh about Greek I know they through these stories , their places , their way of life , sea, war , what not why is it not important? To me Moana is also a character in a story and to Greeks may be Helen of Troy is also represents their culture who are you and me to stop that? >>>>>>So if for you moana is also a character in a story then why does it matter to you if she is white or black >>>>>>>That story is based on a region and I would prefer them represented by natives. It's their money and choice to produce but I feel it difficult to support rich countries trying to sideline natives . That's all

While Lupita in the role is indeed questionable the same way a German actress portrayed the role earlier, OP is just a cherry-picking racist lol. He's comparing one of the best shots with one of the worst shots of the two actors >Lupita is questionable “in the same way” as Diane. Nahh bruh your woke sh!t ain’t gonna fly lol >>It's not woke to say that a Greek character wasn't portrayed by a Greek actor. But it's fine though, I don't expect you to think too much, can't afford to lose your last brain cell too, amirite? >>>At least she was a blonde. Buttt it’s a lot to process especially for someone has already lost the last brain cell lol >>>>"At least she was blonde" Since when is that the criteria, you ignoramus? Shifting the goalposts just to win online arguments lol >>>>>lol better compared to your POS woke criteria which says Lupita and Diane are EQUALLY wrong casting lol >>>>>>Bro just say you're racist, it would be less pathetic than this display >>>>>>>lol you are the actual racist here >>>>>>>>Why can't you just admit it? We'll stop roasting you, pinky promise

Greek people weren't blonde. Both castings are inaccurate, but of course you'll simp for the white one because your ideology is hollow and superficial >Supporting References in Lyric Poetry Beyond Sappho, other ancient lyric poets used the same adjective (xanthos) to describe her hair: Stesichorus (Fragment S103): Reconstructs the phrase ⁠[ξ]α̣νθὰ δ' ῾Ελένα̣⁠ (blonde/golden Helen). Ibycus (Fragment 1a.5): Refers to ⁠ξα]νθᾶς ῾Ελένας⁠ (of blonde/golden Helen). Yeah right your woke ideology is vapid and pathetic >>Homer's Iliad mentioned only that Helen had "lovely hair." And xanthe/xanthos also means "radiant." Aegeans didn't have blonde hair, they had dark hair and olive skin, so there's absolutely nothing to suggest Helen was blonde. Lol, braindead imbecile >>>Yeah Menelaus, Achilles, Agamemnon, Rhadamanthys, Athena (in disguise) are explicitly described as blonde. Hardly any with African curly black hair. Take a bath this year at least woke trash lol >>>>All of them were described as "xanthos" or "xanthe" you low IQ inc*l tourist. Which, again, means "radiant" not blonde. Of course tourists and larpers like you won't know that (12 more comments of these two arguing)

Greek women are not blonde and blue eyed either. Diane Kruger is a German actress. >Blonde and blue eyed is lore accurate lol. Sorry if it didn’t meet your woke agenda. >>Lore accurate? The word blue wasn't even in the Greek vocabulary at the time the odessey was written. You are an idiot. >>>The exact textual reference for Helen having "blue eyes" comes from ancient Greek lyric poetry fragments, where she is given a specific, recurring description. The Word: Kyanōpis (\kappa\upsilon\alpha\nu\tilde{\omega}\pi\iota\varsigma) While Homer left her appearance completely blank, later lyric poets and writers of the Epic Cycle used the compound epithet ⁠κυανῶπις⁠ (kyanōpis) to describe Helen's face and eyes. This is the direct source of the modern "blue-eyed" translation. Stfu lol >>>>You serious? Your own comment literally states that Homer ,the literal creator of the Epic, didn't write have a definite eye colour and it was an added by later poets and writers and somehow this is supposed to support your point? Of course, I shouldn't expect too much from a person who copypasted an AI prompt and couldn't use basic comprehension to actually read the prompt. >>>>>Yeah how about African features for Helen. Is that from Odessey lol Ofcourse can’t expect logic from a woke freak lol >>>>>>I never said that was "lore accurate". I didn't even say anything to support the Nolan film. I personally think that the film is not an accurate representation of the actual Epic and is worse for it. All I said against you was about the blue eyes. Of course, you are too inept to actually argue like a normal person and too illiterate to read your own arguement. Which is why you are resorting to insults because critical thinking is too hard.

Nobody gonna fight a war for this. Men will be like you take it for free. No no I will pay you to keep her , take her away from my sight. >Idk what th you white washers get by being racist, the actress is gorgeous, lemme click your pic from a hideous angle, heck, even a good angle can't hide that disgusting racist personality of yours, fyi, the casting wasn't directed by her. image >>She looks okay, I have seen better looking black actresses >>>Tfym? So you get the right to insult random people? U all have no empathy or humility. Don't be shy, share your pic. >>>>If anyone is insulting and being a bully here that's you. What I shared is my opinion, which not necessarily attack anyone, I said she looks okay but I have also seen better looking black black actresses. It's not a blanket statement, it's an opinion >>>>>Well you were def defending op who is def being rude as f.

r/blackpeopleofreddit is going to ban you for this >Why. >>because they are racist >>>My criticism was for the movie , it's casting choice and authenticity. I did not said anything which is racist. If they try to do something, they are on the wrong side. >>>>you completely missed the joke >>>>>I was going to type a paragraph, but you saved it.

DEI stuff is getting pretty wild. I wonder how far it will go ? >Clear already rewriting science to feel good. Like retrospectively changing things and publishing research paper and getting them cited and peer review with each other. Like female were as good as hunting in Big game as men and prehistoric era, what not b******* to show gender rules were equal even back then. But in reality today 90% of men to hunting in USA and 10% of women when there is no external force >>Actually embarrassing that your proof to go against peer reviewed papers is "in the modern day women don't like hunting for a leisure activity" wow that's so similar to hunting to survive as a prehistoric human. Dropped this big guy 🤡 >>>This is a funny one but people who are inside academia all over the world. Are aware of,all the systemic issues along with a lot of things they are not able to say. https://youtu.be/bekDq_Ebi2I?si=tyilCQrFBmk5acL6 >>>>Crowder?! Thats your reference po- Oh honey >>>>>See go through the content not the person. See the substance >>>>>>The only substance coming out of Crowder is bullshit.

Felon of Detroit The face that turned a thousand ships >Your racism only encourages people to be racist against Indians as well. >>People are and still going to be racist towards Indians regardless, don't try to justify your Nolan dickriding with the facade of social justice and go have a look what these blacks even write about Indians Now go away lick those boots harder sepoy, your masters ain't gonna be pleased with just that >>>Brainless. You seem to be reflecting. I don't consider Nolan to be in th top 50 directors nor are his movies the best or anything, but a lot of respect to him. >>>>Sure buddy...Sure Take it even deeper now >>>>>Grow up. >>>>>>Sure unc just like you did rn after your previous comment got removed 🤣🤣 I triggered all the lameass Nolan fanbois smh

Lupita nyongo is objectively one of the prettiest women. I find her extremely attractive but art is subjective >“Objectively” prettiest. Next line “subjective”. Don’t use fancy words if don’t know sh!t. >>Why are you such an asshole while being wrong abt what i said? I said the actress herself is objectively good looking on a scale of what humans find attractive. But art itself as in the movie and how it should be cast or how accurate it should be can be subjective. How about a have a normal discussion instead of being an asshole >>>"objectively good looking on a scale of what humans find attractive" Aren't human opinions subjective? >>>>You can create a objective scale based on subjective opinions. It's just aggregating opinions. >>>>>A scale based on subjective opinions cannot be objective lol

Woke kinda Wakanda nonsense is this meme >It is like , some white dude playing black panther >>Ohh it doesn’t work that way. Hate it when wokeism ruin such good movies and shows. >>>Wtf did you just said??? Like how is a movie destroyed if a black actress is playing helen?? >>>>Helen of Troy wasn't Black or african by any means so that representation is inaccurate people will call it out >>>>>That's not how history works.We don't know what Helen of Troy actually looked like because she's a figure from Greek mythology,not a documented historical person.She wasn't Black by any means is a claim you can't prove any more than someone can prove she was. The Odyssey is an adaptation of a myth,not a documentary >>>>>>So you would be okay with Timothee Chalamet playing Lord Ram? And Zendaya playing Sita? No right? You don't care because it isn't your culture that's being affected. The Greeks care about this. >>>>>>>Nice false equivalence.Lord Ram is a living deity worshipped by millions today.Helen is a mythological literary character who's been reimagined for over 2,500 years.Those are completely different contexts. According to you every adaptation has to be frame for frame identical to ancient depictions.Better get rid of modern English dialogue,Hollywood accents, clean teeth and half the costumes too. For you guys historical accuracy only wakes up when skin colour changes

They definitely made lupita look chopped, with right makeup and styling lupita looks etheral, I feel like nolan hates black people and want them to fail, cause even zendayas styling looks atrocious >Yeah right for Wokanda not for Greece lol

background:

Destiny is a liberal political streamer. Zohran Mamdani is a democratic socialist and New York City mayor. This makes them mortal enemies. However, that did not stop r/Destiny to fall in love with Mamdani

Sure, they had some hiccups along the way. He should've condemned Hamas harder, and his economic policies are just socialist nonsense. But Mamdani charmed them just like he does with about anyone. Him meeting Trump was received well, and him getting out an ICE-detained student was praised. His tax-the-rich bill wasn't really that radical. His PR skills are awesome and something that every Dem needs to learn from in these times! And anyway, he will get more moderate as the time goes on, as many others did before him - something that was frequently said in the subreddit.

So what happened?

From Wikipedia - 2026 United States House of Representatives elections in New York:

>Progressive and socialist candidates in New York City had a successful primary night, defeating more moderate Democratic incumbents in the 10th and 13th districts and winning the open 7th district in a landslide, in what was described as a "clean sweep" and a show of strength for Mayor Zohran Mamdani and the Democratic Socialists of America

#New York City is cooked. It’s DSA territory now.

>Zohran was speaking at DSA meetings about abolishing capitalism like 2 years ago. He will boost every tankie he can get his hands on >>He understands that he needs to hide his power level. We're cooked >>>This sub is completely deluded about Mamdani being a good faith actor. He clearly is not. >>>>He's so devious, he's going to be a good mayor as part of his plan. >>>>>I can’t wait for when he starts that part of his plan

>Zohran is a Trojan Horse for the DSA disease. >>Man, I hope it’s not true, cause he seems like a good candidate and politician.

>>Yep. He has good governance but the larger picture is grim. >>He is a good politician. Whether he's a good mayor remains to be seen.

>I’m watching our boy Hutch suffering reacting to this. Mamdani fucked us >>Mamdani is a fucking snake and he's always been a fucking snake. He's not a Democrat. He's DSA. That's why he was uncommitted for Kamala, but all too happy to endorse vile and morally repugnant anti-Dems like Chevalier. Fuck him and fuck the DSA.

#DSA swept tonight. Fuck Mamdani and the voters

>I thought Chicago was full of regards but New York takes the cake

>Did everyone just think that Zohran stopped being an anti capitalist tankie fuck because he filled some potholes? >>I've been a Zohran hater from the start, Ive only praised his top tier PR abilities which should be emulated. But ultimately he is a commie loser.

>>He's not a tankie >>>He is. He's just young and attractive and knows not to say the quiet part out loud.

>>You need to get offline if you think Zohran and the DSA are tankies. Please take a deep breath. >>>Call them whatever, their goal is to infiltrate and take over/destroy the Democratic party from the inside. Its their own stated goal. >>>That's enough for me. >>>>Yes and changing the party from the inside is a good thing. We will make the "left" party left wing. >>>>>No. >>>>>You will continue to be completely irrelevant outside of insanely blue districts. >>>>>At some point that will stop working as well once people realize how unserious you larping dorks are. >>>>>>Corporate stooges will lose in increasing numbers as time goes on. People don't want bought and paid for do nothing politicians. >>>>>>>"donor classssss" >>>>>>>lmfao >>>>>>>Good luck with that man. Surely socialism is just around the corner.

>Reminder that socialism is illiberal and therefore these DSA freaks are the opposition. >>Screech about genocide and you don't even have to talk about actual issues like housing and climate change anymore. 😞 >>>How dare people have strong moral convictions against genocide. "Screeching". How disgusting you are. >>>>Miss me with your “moral convictions” when you support the IRCG that just murdered thousands of Iranian protesters

>Mamdani ratfucked us. I didn’t mind him at first but this endorsement was such a punch in the face. >>He was always like this dude is a card carrying DSA organizer >>>Yeah I know but I was convinced to give him a chance, I guess it was a mistake  >>You mean a Marxist aristocrat is a threat to liberal democracy and was not the "no big deal" that certain people thought he was... I am shocked! Shocked, I say!

#Seriously, Fuck Mamdani and His Shameless Campaigning for these Tankie Fucks

>Vote blue no matter who or stfu! >>This doesn’t apply to illiberal DSA members. >>>Oh now there are exceptions?

>>>Shut up. >>>Trump is trying to dismantle democracy. >>>I will vote blue no matter who. It ain't easy, but it is needed. >>>Cowards can hide or scramble, but don't think we'll think you noble. >>>>So, if a literal Nazi ran as a Democrat you'd say "Vote Blue No Matter Who?" >>>Even the most crazy illiberal DSA member will vote more in-line with Dems than a modern "moderate" Republican.  >>>>Nah, I’d rather let the party burn if ever got overtaken by DSA members. This ain’t gonna happen( thank god), but I’m telling you the truth. Nothing you say or do will change my mind on this. >>>>>You are the problem. >>>>>>You can cry about it. Not supporting a DSA dem in a blue state when it doesn’t even matter.

>You people are so fucking dramatic my god get a grip man

>>This sub kills me during every election night. And it's always the same "the sky is falling" shit from the same people here.

>Blue no matter who >>Tankies don't vote blue no matter who. It's only the libcucks falling for it. >>>That's right, we should be just as moronic as them. That's how we take back this country. >>>>How are you taking back the country if you’re replacing one set of fascists with fascists who like the colour red? >>>>>You vote for the person you think is the lesser of two evils. If the new fascists are more in-line with our agenda, vote for them. And then we can focus on primarying them out 2 years from now.

Fairs:

Bernie absolutely has been a tankie lol. Now hes old and like beach houses more

So, if a literal Nazi ran as a Democrat you'd say "Vote Blue No Matter Who?"

Edit: I got showered with non-free awards by just two people. Kind of wondering why? And for this post? Very cool but strange

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/fivethirtyeight/comments/1ukub7i/53_of_likely_battleground_voters_say_dems_are_too/

Context: R/fivethirtyeight is a sub for fans of the now defunct 538 website founded by Nate Silver

HIGHLIGHTS

The DSA doing what they do best: sandbagging the Democrats, helping Republicans win, then complaining elected Democrats don't do more >It’s been really awesome living in this new world the last few weeks where the DSA has suddenly become a powerful political force responsible for republican victories >>Guess you missed the Genocide Joe crowd taking down Kamala in 2024. As soon as Trump won, we have seen zero "Genocide Don" protests and Jill Stein immediately disappeared again. >>>Yes there have famously been no protests against Donald Trump and his continued genocide in gaza Are you alright? Why do you keep talking about jill fucking stein? Jill Stein is abhorred by the left. Her base of support is crystal mommies >>>>Please show me protests against Trump over Gaza from the DSA. I never see them ever mention Republicans. All I hear from the DSA is about how Chuck Schumer and the other Jewish Democrats are "Zios". Mamdani just took down three accomplished liberal members of Congress simply because they don't hate Israel enough >>>>>they would have been fine if they hadn't defended genocide and taken all that corporate and aipac money >>>>>>The phantom "genocide" and the antisemitic theories about secretJewish money puppet masters are why the DSA continue to be misguided loons with no interest in actually addressing the real issues in our democracy right now

The centrist Democrats doing what they do best, absolutely nothing and making everyone apathetic to the republicans destroying the government >I'm sure that approach will do wonders for helping enact change >>What change? The centrists do nothing >>>You really need to look into what Biden did in his first two years, it was significant and impactful. Then the DSA Jill Stein "Genocide Joe" crowd showed up after October 7. And what did they accomplish? >>>>Genuinely, are you ok? Jill Stein is hated by the DSA. Sorry, all the people you don’t like aren’t a simple story for you to tell.

Looking forward to national level Marxist struggle sessions and raising your hand and saying “point of privilege” before speaking. Rubio/DeSantis have this in the bag. >Oh look, nonsense >>You haven't seen this before? >>>A video with 4 thousand views posted by Joe Rogan? No. Most people haven’t. >>>>LOL what a joke. You do realise this is just a random reupload and the first result I found on youtube right? This was a very popular meme. Here is one with 1M+ views from 6 years ago. Are you gonna take back your comment about it being nonsense now? >>>>>So we’re going back to 2019? I was being generous assuming that the clip you posted was even remotely relevant by being post-covid. But it wasn’t. >>>>>>The guy referenced this very popular meme mocking the DSA. You, not being aware, said it's nonsense. You have now been proven wrong. End of story. Pre or post covid is completely irrelevant lmao I actually laughed at how hard you're grasping at straws.

This is so expected. For some reason the far left refuses to accept this reality. >Now do individual policies and talk about accepting reality. >>Why? You’re acting like voters are sifting through policy and making informed decisions. They are not. It’s all vibes. The vibe is you guys are too far to the left. >>>The vibe is also apparently the Republicans are too far to the right. So what’s the point? >>>>In my opinion, republicans don’t seem to be undergoing an existing rightward shift. The party appears to be as right as it’ll get in the foreseeable future. None of trump’s potential successors are further right than him. Democrats on the other hand, are currently being pulled to the left by the DSA. So if overall voter perception is currently “they’re both extreme”, it’ll soon turn to “wait one just got a lot more extreme than the other.” >>>>>You don’t think that MAGA primarying out incumbent republicans is a rightward shift? >>>>>>MAGA has everything to do with what Trump wants at that moment, so no.

Let me guess they didn't ask for if the Republicans are too far right? >They did, and it was basically the same result. But OP chose not to post that. >>This was posted because Galen posted it on Twitter. But it’s not “basically the same result” it is measurably more favorable to the GOP. >>>No, it really isn’t. It’s literally margin of error differences >>>>Ok you can believe that but it’s just cope, I don’t know what else to say to you. >>>>>Can you share what the margin of error was and what the GOP results are? It either is or isn't inside the margin of error, it's not really worth debating, just show the numbers. >>>>>>It’s variable on the states but about 5%

As usual, this is a meaningless “statistic” because nobody defines their own politics as extreme. >It’s hilarious. Every single time data like this comes out there’s also plenty of other data contradicting that shows the median voter has no clue what terms mean and defines “moderate” as “whatever I personally think is good.” >>Seems like a messaging issue. >>>I mean, yes, progressives do have a messaging issue, especially with statements like “defund the police;” however, I’d argue that’s unfortunately a side effect of grassroots organizing - all slogans and statements aren’t going to be PR or focus group-tested. >>>>I mean we can throw our hands up and say the voters are stupid, but ultimately politics is about convincing people and messaging. Dems and progressives need to work on messaging. >>>>>Can’t disagree with you there, though I do think there have improvements at least with folks like Mamdani.

The median voter has no real clue what constitutes far-left and far-right. Are the democrats too far-left or too far-right? “Too far-left!” Would you support the democrats if they fought for universal healthcare and childcare, went after big corporations, and enacted better labor protections? “Of course! Those things are great!” >But the Mamdani era isn't about building coalitions to pass legislation to do those things. It's about Israel and AIPAC controlling the world through hidden cabals >>Mamdani has collaborated with and even endorsed Hochul, a more moderate Dem. He constantly redirects questions that seek to make him attack fellow Dems back to New York. Sure, some DSA folks have taken a combative stance. But if anyone is being hostile currently? Moderates haven’t exactly been friendly. >>>Moderates have been far more friendly than the DSA folks get serious lmao. Do you wanna compare the statements of the DSA leadership to those of Jeffries? >>>>“DSA leadership,” isn’t in office. They even released a statement condemning Mamdani’s actions on the police, and yet I don’t think anyone’s going to call him “not DSA.” Would you like to compare the statements of former DNC chair Jaime Harrison or Democratic strategist James Carville? Mamdani, who was name dropped in the aforementioned comment, has certainly not been combative. Folks like AOC have near-integrated with the establishment. Lmao. Get serious. >>>>>DSA leadership is in office. Just not elected office. Neither are Harrison or Carville (who's been out of it for 2 decades lmao). If you wanna compare electeds, I'll gladly listen to you talk about Gottheimer and Suozzi or whoever and compare that to all the shit anyone in the elected DSA caucus have said. >>>>>>And electeds like AOC are far more kind to moderates than individuals in the new centrist group. We could cherry-pick individuals all day. Gottheimer stated, despite fairly winning primaries, socialists have no place in the Dem party. Mamdani responded by saying they can fit in the tent together. There’s a microcosm of the larger issue. (35 more comments of these two arguing)

I always wish they would ask follow up questions to define why they feel this way. I sense some of the responses will be things like they are too "woke" without explaining what that means. >I don’t think it really matters though. Voters going off of vibes these days shouldn’t be surprising. I don’t even think they know. All that matters is that the reputation of democrats is woke and extreme while republicans is somehow still centrist but corrupt. >>Probably because Republicans talk about being proud of America, while the DSA talks about burning it all down. The Democrats have so many amazing centrist politicians but the idiocy of the Squad ruins all their good work. Tlaib and Omar spent last week simping for Hezbollah in Lebanon. I mean what is the average American supposed to think Democrats are doing? It certainly isn't about making American lives better. >>>Ah more FETTERMAN!!!!!!!!!! CENTRISTS WOOO!!! >>>>I was thinking more Bashear, Shapiro, Pritzker, Whitmer, Newsom, Buttigieg, Mark Kelly, Ossoff, etc, but go off >>>>>Oh, you want to claim some progressives now? >>>>>>Yes. I believe in real progressivism, not Antisemitic hate mobs >>>>>>>It’s a genocide, btw 😊 >>>>>>>>Actually it isn't, it was a war that ended six months ago, but keep clinging to that word like Republicans clung to "WMDs" for years after the facts showed they were wrong. I get it. Sunk cost fallacy.

I doubt most Americans would consider the Dems “too far to the right.” >I wonder if the question was surrounded by social policy questions or economic policy questions. Democrats being right wing is a tough sell for social policy. For many, its an eassssyyyy sell for economic policy. Edit: no framing, up to the individual >>Outside of leftist internet bubbles it is actually also a tough sell that Democrats are “center right” economically. They support raising the minimum wage wage, universal healthcare, raising taxes on the wealthy, increasing the child tax credit, etc. >>>Yeah they do support it in speeches! >>>>Well and legislation. >>>>>Yeah, thats why we have a $15 minimum wage and universal healthcare. >>>>>>Filibuster + Republicans usually controlling the senate is why we don’t have those. If you can’t characterise Dems by their leftmost flank, you can’t characterise them by Manchin and Lieberman either >>>>>>>Is the filibuster a permanent unbreakable force? Also in states that are majority Dem, how do plans like Calcare go? >>>>>>>>The filibuster isn't a right or left belief, it's procedural with arguments for and against it by either party's members. It's significantly harder to implement a universal healthcare program at the State level compared to a national level. You are allowed to support a national healthcare program but not a state healthcare program without being right wing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/comments/1ulgsxi/is_this_image_completely_made_up/

Context: A common point of contention in the AI debate is the alleged high water use (for cooling data centers) and environmental impact of AI. An image created by a pro-AI advocate is posted by an anti-AI user, asking whether the stats in the image are legitimate. The image compares the allegedly small water usage of AI to the [commonly cited](https://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-gallons-of-water-to-make-a-burger-20140124-story.html) figure of 660 gallons of water to create one hamburger. Commenters refuse to believe that it takes this much water to make one hamburger.

>[600 GALLONS for a SINGLE hamburger and youre asking if its bull shit?](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/comments/1ulgsxi/comment/ov3tz2k/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=mweb3x&utm\_name=mweb3xcss&utm\_term=2&utm\_content=share\_button) (this has 600 upvotes)

>>Are they counting the bull that made the meat and the water drank by the cook?

In their eyes, life doesn't deserve water.

>>>What they're counting is how much water was used to grow the crops we use to feed cows. That said if were going that far back all food takes hundreds of gallons of water to make. So its pointless.

>>>>Even that does not make sense because its not like just one hamburger comes from that LMAO

>[Idk why everyone’s so skeptical about the hamburger number do y’all not know how much water it takes to raise cows? Beef production has been a huge driver of climate change for a long time it’s terrible for the environment im so sorry to say](https://www.reddit.com/r/antiai/comments/1ulgsxi/comment/ov40p0n/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=share_button)

>>At least the water used to water cows, and grow their food, goes back into the water table and is reusable…

The water used by datacenters pollutes the nearby water and kills the fish

>>>Water used to irrigate feed crops or water cattle does return to the water cycle, but it is not guaranteed to return cleanly to the water table. Some of it evaporates, some is absorbed by plants, and some runs off into rivers and groundwater carrying manure, fertilizers, bacteria, and excess nutrients. That runoff can contaminate water, trigger algal blooms, reduce oxygen levels, and kill fish. The water remains part of the water cycle, but it may require treatment before it is safe for drinking or other uses.

I can’t believe people don’t realize that the cattle industry is one of the largest consumers of freshwater. It uses enormous amounts of water, much of it for growing feed, and a significant portion of that consumption is arguably unnecessary depending on what alternatives are available.

Context: Yesterday, the Supreme Court ruled that children born in the US have a constitutional right to citizenship.

Meanwhile, the DoomerCirclejerk subreddit is a reportedly unbiased sub that claims to poke fun at people who "doom" over current events. They vociferously opine that they are not a right-wing subreddit.

Several threads were made making fun of people "dooming" over the Supreme Court's recent ruling. It goes about as well as you'd expect.

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I’m not going to freak out, but it is worrisome that right now 1.5 million children born on US soil through birth tourism are living in China, are going to be raised in the Chinese system and so on. > Where are those numbers from? >> I looked it up and it’s an estimate between Chinese data on returning citizens who have had children abroad. So I would probably go with the Chinese numbers >>> Where is this Chinese data? >>>> I’m at a job site right now

The idea that a CCP-born loyalist has even a snowball's chance in hell at becoming president under this electorate is pretty funny. > Get ready to get called racist for not voting a spy into office

I don’t know, maybe the Chinese should take over for a bit, they seem to build roads, houses, and world class rail super faster than our geriatric corrupt assholes can. /s (kinda) > CCP slop take >> -5 social points

It’s plainly observable that there is a real effort to demographically replace Americans with an immigrant under class the elites can more easily control. > Ok doomer >> Facts = doomer. Forgot Reddit is full of leftist retards. >>> What facts? This is doomer bs. Oh no, the nation of immigrants is continuing to allow immigrants to come here. Must be some nefarious plot by -The Elites- for more control.

Matt Walsh isn't a doomer. He's a grifter. I doubt he genuinely believes this - but it encourages engagement and keeps his name relevant. > Not really a grifter. How is he a conman? How is he exploiting trust to get victims to part way with their money when much of his content is free? If he is a "grifter" anyone in journalism is a grifter. >> He's manufacturing outrage to gain social media attention. Maybe it's a bit loose use of the word, but in no way do I actually believe he's devastated by this ruling. He wants engagement. >>> What is manufactured? Should everyone be happy birthing tourism can change state elections in the future? Huge demographics changes nobody voted for ?

Lmfao, not dooming at all. Totally reasonable anxieties. I'm sure this really impacts your day to day. /s > pointing out an incredibly stupid policy isn’t dooming >> This sub frequently believes that pointing out that some things are actually bad is ‘dooming’. > His kid's ability to live in a country that "looks and functions something like America" was "stolen from them" because of an amendment passed in 1868? Because the Supreme Court refused to overturn an amendment and 200 years of precedent? Not dooming? Ok >> And it’s been the same since the 1860s. Were you this afraid of it 10 years ago? You guys are so dumb it’d be funny if it wasn’t so sad. >>> not only was the the third world not just a plane ticket away in the 1860s, citizenship was still reserved for white men of good character, which is what the founding fathers wanted. you’re embarrassingly ignorant

China has over 1M US citizens currently being brought up in China. You know what happens when the CCP strategically places them in the US? China can take over without firing a shot. > Lol yes 1 million Chinese citizens are going to destroy or take over a nation of 350 million. Found the right wing doomer... >> The adeptus chinastartes are coming any decade now…

Get ready, you're gonna get a lot of, "This isn't dooming, it's a real issue" on this one. > There’s an extent to which you move beyond anti-dooming into just garden variety nihilism. If you can’t see what makes this such a terrible decision or why it is, in fact, a real issue, I don’t know what to tell you. >> It's a terrible decision to preserve the status quo for 168 years? Wild take. >>> When the “status quo” was effectively turned into a loophole to flood the country with fraudulent amnesty seekers from third world countries by a sitting president and the party behind him attempting to remake the nation’s demographics illegally, yes, terrible decision. >>>> Are you doing white replacement? >>>>> In the kindest terms possible: fuck off.

no officer the weapons that I have aren't illegal, they're just undocumented

The problem is that voters are not rational. They don't actually care whether or not an issue will make the country better or worse. They just listen to what their camp tells them to think.

Its funny when conservatives make the most slippery slope argument ever > Not sure what you mean

So naturally, America is on life support. > 14th amendment should be erased >> Ok, so write your congressman. >>> I know.

> The basis of this are abuses of the amendment, such as taking a vacation when pregnant in order to have your kid be a US citizen. The amendment clearly was not intended to allow this, which is why there was a case. This is why three judges ruled this was a reasonable use of executive authority, but the majority decided that it wasn’t. Some of the majority had different reasoning than some others, but came to the same conclusion. The sad part of this is taking the view that there isn’t a possible other viewpoint at all. As an example, the second amendment allows unrestricted arms, but note that you can’t buy missiles or standard issue tanks as a citizen. In other words, amendments are often limited based on preventing abuses, but keeping the primary intended purpose of the amendment. Even more sad, this won’t be seen as showing that the court remains independent of Trump, instead the doom is still there and this will just be ignored. The one thing for certain is we are doomed.

because the sign of a healthy democracy is that everyone thinks the exact same thing with no variation. > Well, a sign of healthy democracy sure isnt giving citizenship to someones child with absolutely no connection to this country, its history, or its values, because they crossed the imaginary map line 5 minutes before dropping their umbilical anchor on american land, and then flying off to another country to raise them under another culture their whole life (for example communist china's birth tourism.