r/SubredditDrama

Original post: People who show mercy and leniency to criminals are the ones who truly lack empathy

Top comment: Just like we need to, according to you, stop throwing men in jail for not paying their LEGALLY MANDATED, COURT-ORDERED child support*?* https://www.reddit.com/r/HonestHotTakes/s/RCH1ur7kck Don’t murder or rape people, but also don’t be a fucking bum-ass clown of a baby-daddy or father, and just pay your child support.

>My god, can we please stop this coward behavior of searching random posts and using that as an argument? It has nothing to do with the OP. It is just such a coward method. “I can’t argue the point so I’m just going to look in your post history for something I might be able to argue instead” Everyone just private your profiles honestly

>In a debate a person's previous held positions and statements are fair game.

>Because murder and rape = lack of child support payments...

>You're a few French fries short of a happy meal...

>I don’t think that they are. People that refuse to support their children should have the book thrown at them, possibly rocks as well.

>Some fathers can't afford to pay child support, especially in this economy. If the marriage dissolved over financial issues due to low income, trying to compel the father to pay child support after the marriage has ended only perpetuates the problem which ended the marriage in the first place.

>Why? Why can’t a man just abort the baby from his life because he’t too poor to have it? It’s the number one reason abortion lovers cite to kI’ll babies. Why shouldn’t A man be allowed to do the same but without torturing the child to death?

>Because the child still exists and still requires support, whether his deadbeat ass likes it or not. Abortion doesn't torture a child to death, and the fact that you think it does is ample evidence that you're not knowledgeable enough about it to qualify to have an opinion.

OP's previous thread: We need to stop throwing men in jail and stop suspending licenses for lack of child support payments

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1x1uyzs/trump_strikes_russian_diesel_deal_to_tackle/

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Reagan is spinning in his grave. I’d rather pay more than give Russia our money. Embarrassing. >REAGAN LET IN MILLIONS OF IL LEGALS!!’

So what does this mean at the pump? Does Diesel drop from $6 to $5.89, or does it drop to $4? >*cries in california >>I have no sympathy for HCOL blue states. Alot of their high prices are of their own doing. Yea, it shouldnt be as high as it is but its made higher because of their Democrat politicians. >>>We didn’t all vote for that and not all of us can just up and move >>>>Anyone can up and move. It may take dedication or sacrifice, but anyone who says they can't move are not willing to move.

Fucking ridiculous. This is prob the most unimpressed I've been - and I've been pretty checked out lately. Russia is our lifelong enemy. Any move Russia makes is in opposition to us. If he thinks getting diesel prices lower by midterms via Russia of all places is gonna save us I think he's gonna be surprised at the disdain for this move. Just ugh EDIT - why are people from our sub coming to me in DMs? Just ask the questions here FFS. Like u/capsfansteelers whining in my DMs that I hate Trump and should leave the sub. 1) I do NOT hate him in the least, and 2) it's r/Conservative not r/Trump Holy fuck this website is going to shit >RUSSIA ISN'T OUR ENEMY! SORRY BUD >>Russia has killed more Americans than Iran in the last 20 years, and they already have nukes. They absolutely are the enemy. Wake up. >>>Iran literally blew up a bunker with 241 American soldiers in it, wtf? Beirut barracks bombing. Weird that you had to restrict it to 20 years lol. >>>>Ok, let's go back 40. I didn't want to go too far back as the further you go back the more in favour of the Russian caused deaths that occur because of the greater number of proxy wars being fought in Africa, and South + Central America. >>>>>If you’re gonna include proxy conflicts then we need to include Afghanistan where 30000 Soviet soldiers died. How is that even close? The fact is proxy conflicts don’t matter. You’re stretchi ng your argument to its limit

While I could see what your saying on a fringe NATO level I have to say They are rivaling us in fuel distro They are the closest thing to China we have in near peer They are still sabotaging us at every turn and harboring/giving asylum to all our traitors And last but absolutely not least THEY ARE IRANS BIGGEST ALLY AND GIVING THEM TARGETING DATA AND INFO oh and btw they are an aggressor to Ukraine who we have a lucrative mineral deal with and committing daily war crimes to our allies >You cannot prove Russia provided it when they are preoccupied with Ukraine and China has better capabilities than Russia. All those things you listed are minor and even non problems. We harbor Russian criminals, we pump out oil too, who cares? >>The main problem I have is their allied direct confrontation as well as their indefensible Ukraine offensive And they absolutely provided it wdym >>>China did.

Absolute betrayal. Well done, America, you finally caved to the commies. >No one cares about Ukraine any more lol sorry homie

I have strongly supported Trump policies for the first five of his years. Somehow he has fallen into the wilderness. I don’t support any deals with Russia/Putin for any reason at the moment. Though I support kicking Irans ass, I don’t support the current approach. Either ramp up the bombing or go home >GET THE DIESEL PRICES DOWN, NO ONE CARES ABOUT UKRAINE ANY MORE!!! >>Found Putin's Reddit account. >>>MUH RUSSIA COLLUSION!!!

How embarrassing. >If you're actually British, you have enough reasons to be embarrassed about your failing Island than anything we're doing State-side. >>lol.. cry harder. Trump literally simping Russia because his idiotic Iran plan backfired. Art of the Deal indeed. >>>I have a feeling you're entire view of failure and success in the Iran conflict is based off of gasoline prices. Even if you won't admit it. This whole thing has highlighted how fragile the world's energy supply chains are. Which I must be one of the few people on reddit who went from not really liking the Iran war to actually thinking it was in America's best interest. Because lord knows if Iran aver got a nuke, (and maybe in several cases if they didn't) all they have to do is start shooting rockets at ship's in the strait to have the same exact effect. Regardless of the U.S.'s presence or not. So the U.S. is slowly starting to restore it's domestic production capabilities. Unfortunately Britain and many other European countries I don't think have the strength to do the same. And so forever you'll be beholden to foreign influence just by virtue of them being able to threaten shutting off a big chunk of your energy. Yet again the United States being the "bad guy" and doing something that will ultimately benefit the Europeans, and somewhat dragging them kicking and screaming along for the ride. It might cost us the midterms over here and even though it's unpopular now, I think on the other side of this a lot of people will realize the virtue of the effort to decapitate the Iranian "Death Cult" Regime they've got going on over there.

Absolutely stupid. Leave Iran and reopen the Strait of Hormuz! >THE STRAITS OPEN BABY!!! STOP READING FAKE NEWS

If it delivers lower gas prices fine by me. We need relief for truckers and farmers.

NOW SHUT DOWN THE STARLINKS FUELING THE STRIKES IN RUSSIA! And Russia can stop bombing Kiev. And then this ridiculous war can end

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/1wwwg6h/mushoku_tensei_is_so_good/

Context: Mushoku Tensei aka Jobless Reincarnation, is a very popular anime/manga/light novel about a p*edophile reincarnating in a fantasy world as a baby. The narrative follows his life as he grow up into a young adult.

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I am a dude and consider myself very open minded, but this anime is disgusting man. >Maybe you’re not as open-minded as you thought >>I know this is r/anime so what I'm about to say might be unpopular, but honestly I think it's ok to not be open-minded about pdophilia >>>So people enjoying mushoku no tensei means they are open minded for pdophilia is that where you're going with this 😅, or what do you mean exactly? >>>>Means you have 0 respect for girl/women as people imo. Liking wish-fulfillment fantasies that involve harems, sexual harassment, perving on girls, is a big flag of being a loser >>>>>So everyone who has watched it in this thread and talking about it(those who have seen it) 'has 0 respect for girl/women as people in your opinion Liking wish-fulfillment fantasies that involve harems, sexual harassment, perving on girls, they are a big red flag and a loser' I got that correct? >>>>>>Watching is one thing, liking and defending is another. I admit to have a bit more respects for people who at least recognize that the author is a sick pervert and Rudeus is also. I have more respect for people who drop it. But yes, people who call it the best anime ever are big losers that I wouldn’t want to interact with in real life. (30 more comments of these two arguing)

"First of all, yes I know that a LOT of people are turned off from MT, because of some questionable stuff" Grooming and p*dophilia are a little bit worse than “questionable”. Shit like this is why anime fans have a reputation, often times it’s well deserved. >there is no Grooming and p*dophilia you are inventing that in your head b/c someone on twitter told you too. >>In the anime he did not. edit: dunno why I'm getting downvoted for literally telling the truth. >>>Is it a thing where it was in the LN but not the anime? >>>>it was never in the light novel, its in the web novel which is non canon. >>>>>It's in redundancy >>>>>>which is its own separate can of worms >>>>>>>Is redundancy not cannon? >>>>>>>>never said it wasnt but its in a whole a different volume than the standard light novels and in redundancy its said he does it to a picture of her in a bikini not a webcam he installed

"Some questionable stuff" meaning glorified p*dophilia and child grooming. >I have a question that seems unrelated but is actually connected. Did you enjoy the first phase of mcu movies? So everything up to endgame? >>Not particularly. Iron Man was decent. >>>So glorifying war profiteering is okay? >>>>Half the point of the movie is that he restructured his company to give up on war profiteering my dude. >>>>>The movie is literally funded by the us military to glorify war and war profiteering >>>>>>And? Why are we comparing this to p*dophilia? >>>>>>>Because its just as relevant to MT

"Questionable stuff" is an understatement for sure. As a woman it was rough watching the first part of season 1 because it gave me the creeps. Since I was watching with guy friends I powered thru and came to enjoy the show more the less creepy Rudeus got. The world and character building are amazing. The animation is crisp. And story is taking turns I didn't expect. >As a guy who read the original LN when it was being written and is watching the anime right now and thinks it's a great fantasy series - what do you mean when he gets less creepy? Rudeus never gets less creepy the man's a born creep through and through His love interests just age out of it being pdophilia his actual behavior never uncreepifies at all, you just get used to it and stick around for the story and the worldbuilding >>"His love interests just age out of it being pdophilia his actual behavior never uncreepifies at all," "I want to have sex with my wives" vs "I want to _______ a 10 year old" is, in fact, a HUGE decrease in creepy. When's the last time he did something reprehensibly creepy in the anime? >>>"I want to have sex with my wives two of whom I groomed from childhood" Those relationships don't stop being gross because they get older. >>>>How did he "groom" Roxy when she is A: older than him and B: served as his tutor, then left when he learned everything she had to teach, and only reunited later? >>>>>I didn't say anything about Roxy. >>>>>>Weren't Slyphy and Eris his childhood friends? Is it weird to marry your childhood friends? >>>>>>>When you are a grown man and they were children, and you developed feelings for them when they were children, and hooked up with them when they were children, yes, it's weird. Weird is putting it very lightly.

Even ignoring all the p*dophilic stuff ... they buy a slave dude >and yet if you think about it for 2 seconds there is no moral failure in their buying and treatment of julie (a child slave bought by the MC). quite the opposite in fact. >>"my child slave is actually happy, trust" >>>you’re so right, she would have been better off dying in a cage in the slave market than essentially being adopted to live a normal life. >>>>those are definitely the only two options the writer had available to him. you are very smart. >>>>>enlighten me then, what about the julie plotline is bad writing? edit: or makes it a moral failure on rudeus’ part?

Truly one of the best stories ever told in anime/manga/LN. The writing gives breathing space for the characters to exist in the setting that was created, in a very organic way. Everything that is happening feels as natural progression of the world. Only One Piece for me has its world progress in a similar manner. Many anime fans are unfortunately immature and cannot accept the fact that you don't have to project yourself to the cast of any show. There are so many shows out there that people murder others, sell other people, do or sell drugs, and many other hideous things. I didnt see people criticizing Breaking Bad about focusing on creating and selling narcotics to broken and vulnerable people. It is amazing that you need a tv show to tell you whats good and bad. These people just come off as pretentious for me. >Because Breaking Bad doesn’t paint its lead as a hero. It’s literally about how he becomes a villain and dies. Rudeus is not a villain lol, he’s treated as a hero and ultimately gets a heroes ending. What a cool dude, the grooming pdophile. How inspiring. Jesus Christ. Best story ever? lol >>everything you just said was wrong, hes not treated as the hero in fact the real hero literally kills him in the first season of the show. and he never even in the dark timeline dates or has relations with anyone whos physically younger than him, people make the claim his "mental age" is what matters which is just dumb. tanya degurechaff is a grown ass man in a little girls body does mental age still matter? >>>The fact that you have to add “physical” already puts you on the losing side. He’s an adult pdophile in a kids body who gets to sexually lust after children because he’s “technically a child cause other people don’t know”. A good well written story would have explored that and how he doesn’t give in to his desires and uses a fresh start to become a better person. Not sexually assaulting children and grooming them. Also Rudeus doesn’t get a good ending…? How is married to three women he lusted after the entire time, after saving the world and dying an old hero not a good ending? >>>>if rudy is a pdf why in the dark timeline did he only go after adult women? why not build a harem of loli sex slaves with all of this great power and wealth? if hes such a pdf explain why. he is physically a child in the first episode it even says he has the mind of a child b/c he can learn things faster, why does he never date anyone younger than him physically? brain of a child, body of a child and memories of a past life = can never date anyone your own age untill you are 18. or is roxy ok when he was a child? where this line you are drawing here? yes he gets a good ending, after he literally gets a bad ending and has to kill himself to save himself from it >>>>>Because the author can’t write a good story? If he’s not a pdo explain to me why multiple retellings of his past life in different forms have him jerking off to photos of his underage niece or loliporn? He also specifically has the memories of his previous life. He does not have the mind of a child, he has a physically healthier mind which means he can learn new things faster. He’s very much an adult person in a child’s body. That’s the entire reason you keep having to use physically all the time. Like cmon dude. He’s an adult man that wants to fuck a child and tries to groom her and rpe her.

TIL p*dophile tendencies by the MC is only considered questionable >"questionable" is when you filme your underaged Nice on the showed then jerk off to It. Literal pdophile jerking of to literal CP and people Will call his actions "questionable". >>That’s not in the anime, so why do people keep bringing that up in anime discussions? >>>Because it is in the manga. It is the author’s intent for the character. Though it isn’t shown in the anime, that is the MC. >>>>The manga is not the source material >>>>>Yeah its in the LN for sure, which is the source material. >>>>>>the LN volume 1 changes it to lli stuff, only the web novel (basically drafts) has the niece stuff >>>>>>>Not true, the LN explicitly confirms (and retcons the WN, you could say) that Rudeus stole his brother’s camera to jerk off to pictures of his underage niece in a bathing suit (Redundancy Vol 3, canon to main series)

Yeah fr. I keep seeing praise for the show but bro. I heard the series literally had a so-called erectile dysfunction arc. In the context of some old dude being in a kids body its a huge turn off and impossible to look past for me. Never watched it but wonder if the production value is what people fall for >Bro judges show that he never watched it smh. Western ENGLISH fans are so finished smh. Fell for stupid woke propaganda everywhere >>I just got no interest in an Mc like that. Crazy to glorify it. Anime community has always been weird and I say that as a fan for 20+ years. >>>"crazy to glorify it" Bro thinks every single one of over 8 billion population in the world has to be the same as him. Such a cutie Time to find a job and touch some grass >>>>I do actually think all 8 billion shouldn't be p*dophilic, yeah. Tho I know thats unfortunately not the case. Crazy hill to die on bro good luck arguing that one irl >>>>>And I do think none of the 8 billion is on isekai trip to a fictional fantasy world either. How delusional this is 🤣🤣

Griffith is a lot worse than Rudeus, but I'm pretty sure People like him more as a character than Rudeus, or maybe I'm wrong. Either way Berserk and MT are goats, and both Griffith and Rudeus are greatly written characters >Griffith is the villain tho. And nobody defends his behavior >>Nobody defends Rudeus or Griffiths behavior, still good characters. >>>I mean, it's all over this thread. For most people, p*dophilia is not a redeemable quality. Even if Rudeus 'grows' , it's still going to hang over the entire show. He's your protagonist ! And he's written as a heroic one. That's gonna put people off >>>>Neither is murder but we have people that Stan characters that do it and think they’re worth supporting. A character can be well written and make your stomach churn, both things can be true.

So you want to tell me the story needs all the p*do, sexual abuse etc. to be good ? and its okay for people to defend Rudeus for it ? Weird argumentation there buddy maybe you ought the one to touch some grass. Also are you the arbiter of reddit or why do you want to dictate what I can and cant do and diagnose me because you cant fathom someone dislikes the thing you so desperately seem to idolize Always creeps me out how people defend rudeus and the tones of this anime yikes. >Do you like game of thrones, american horror story, pretty little liars, the handmaids tale, mad men, Lolita, bojack horseman, juno, gosip girl etc...? I find it weird people go so hard into this show, but dismiss other shows with the exact same levels of complications. There is tons of media with these themes. There isn't anything new here. There are so many shows that dismiss cheating, r*pe, incest, and grooming. I guess i don't understand why this specific show is where people have drawn the line. Edit: add twilight and True blood to the list. Some clear grooming. >>Do you think that enjoying a show that involves awful actions presented in a negative light is the same as defending a paedophilic character that is glorified and rewarded for their behaviour? Genuine question, because it would be absolutely baffling to compare these two pieces of media in any meaningful way when you're coming from the position of Rudeus being a good main character. Game of Thrones fans aren't burrowing out of the woodwork to shout at everyone that Cersei has done no wrong, and actually it would be fine if she fucked some kids. Edit: Never mind, no point arguing with someone who goes back and edits their comments to an unrecognisable degree. Previously he compared MT exclusively to Game of Thrones and didn't mention themes or dismissal of negative actions - the discussion is on Rudeus as a character. Not worth the effort to keep up with someone who swaps out their opinions every 5 minutes. >>>I literally don't see a single comment here claiming Rudeus is perfect. What are you talking about? A very clear strawman argument. I think it's baffling you're defending Cersei. You must want to fuck your sibling huh? ...Oh wow, it's super easy to just spout bullshit! I also mentioned like 5+ shows, and it's not like that is the definitive list. Way to completely miss the point. Complicated characters are everywhere. If you don't like Rudeus whatever, but acting like this is some unforgivable thing never before seen is just so fucking dumb. >>>>"good main character" equals "perfect"? Yup, clearly "super easy to spout bullshit." I'd honestly be sad if this isn't generic AI ragebait. >>>>>Lol it would be convient if i was AI. I'm literally responding to your position. Way to ignore the rest of my arugement because that's inconvenient. For example (as mentioned elsewhere here), True Blood and Twilight are both grooming. Where's your pitchfork for those? Teenage girls are literally obessed with those, and there's far more of an audience then MT. I just went with the default username. That doesn't make me AI. >>>>>>To respond to my position, it would have to actually reference my position. You're responding to your own made-up arguments. >>>>>>>Wow classic ai.

In a ban-heavy and restricted thread, neoliberals give their free thoughts in the aftermath of the Cornell Gangrape.

Link of the thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/s/yd2Bw1taPd

What even is a fraternity anyway?

I've not only never been in a frat or witnessed a frat event, I've never known anyone who was (or at least not well enough to be aware of it). I therefore have no idea which characterization of them being thrown around is accurate.

- As someone who was in one, honestly they are trash. 90% of them are obscenely filthy and even the best behaved ones promote and glorify excessive drinking.

Is freedom of association a big deal?

Are college students not adults? Universities should have no say in who their students associate with, and how they associate with them. This infantilisation of young adults needs to stop. They are perfectly capable of making their own informed decisions, and don’t need the university (or anyone else for that matter) meddling in their lives. Yes, frats are hotbeds for some really shocking sexual assault cases, but so is literally every space with young people and alcohol in it. Are we going to ban bars and clubs next?

- Should universities have a say in who the university associates with?

— No? Not really? If you pass the entrance exam and aren’t a criminal, why’s it the university’s problem that you’re a member of a fraternity?You could be the world’s most virulent racist and the university does not have grounds to expel you unless you hurt a student or fail too many classes. Who gets to set the standard regarding the moral character you need to be a university student?

- Are you going to be perfectly happy with an association of “X university students for Hamas” or “X university chapter of National Socialist party of America” then?

— Yes

But have you considered that they’re voters?

What if we just… got rid of them. Genuinely what purpose do they serve.

- I don't think getting rid of them would be good for the polls at all. College educated men are on average some of the most democrat-leaning men, and removing frats would definitely alienate them.

— If I have to speculate who makes up the 15% that votes Republicans in college towns, frats would definitely be up there, above business students. They are not the liberal segment of college men at all

— Fuck the polls, they're rape hubs and everyone knows it.

Like I said, the mods are using the ban hammer with gusto so a lot of the savory bits are already gone. The thread is still young though so there’ll be more.

AI Taking over the fair

At a state fair is where I realized nobody really cares if people use ai or not. Like 95% of people. And I was pointing it out to people and they were just like meh. So I stopped trying to tell people about it.

- I don’t mean to be rude but no shit. The people who usually care are just chronically online or on websites like this one. People you meet in your day-to-day really don’t give a shit.

-- the only people who care anymore are artists. it makes me sad everyone stopped sticking up for them

--- I am an artist and I don't care

---- Then you’re not.

----- I'm sure that I can draw better than you

------ Probably. I don’t draw.

------- Stfu then

-- They should care though

--- Why should we care about people using AI to make stupid fair posters to advertise overpriced consumer crap.

---- Theoretically, because it’s all contributing to the entire mess as a whole. The energy consumed to make the posters, the data centers being built to keep AI going and the way it impacts the environment, the money to fund all this, the impending doom, etc.

Lmao imagine being the guy at a state fair annoying the shit out of everyone by pointing out all the ai while everyone else is trying to have a good time. Literally what is anyone supposed to do about it then and there? People are trying to shut their brain off and have some fun. Maybe you should learn to do the same. Turn off the savior complex for a night and try to just enjoy yourself. This shit sounds absolutely insufferable dude.

-- That’s all people ever do, shut their brain off trying to have fun. I’m not saying go around a fair and tell everyone (well, I’m not saying NOT to lol but I wouldn’t), but this is some gun control shit to me. “Shut up about it because I’m trying to live in my fantasy that nothings wrong, and if something happens that I can’t ignore then I’ll just say it’s not the right time to bring it up.”

--- Do you genuinely think that harassing strangers trying to enjoy a nice evening with their families is going to do anything to help your cause?

---- Nope. I’m just making a larger comment that many of these “AI isn’t going anywhere so just get used to it and stop annoying me” people have basically already made up their minds to put their heads in the sand no matter what time or occasion, the same way vehemently anti-gun reform people have done over the years. Just my individual observation here.

----- Ok well I would feel equally annoyed by someone who’s pro ai or anti gun or pro gun or whatever other thing they want to shove in my face. You try to do it while I’m spending what little time I get with my family, I’m gonna tell you to fuck off 🤷‍♀️

All of these are objectively better than the lame ass 480p pictures of a hamburger and fries they had before. Unless the owners pay a designer, the average AI pic is better than whatever they come up with.

- Do you not appreciate the crude charm of a low resolution picture of actual food over a thoughtless, clinical AI image that isn't even close to representing the food they sell and also looks horrifc when you look close enough. The AI designs always look like AI. Never like someone actually designed them

-- Are you really going to state fairs to critique their sinage?

--- If it's AI then yes

---- Why do you care what a Fair vendor does to save some of the little money they make? The fair does not provide or pay for those signs.

If some random dude walked up to me at a fair, to tell me the sign at the food truck was made with AI, i would look at him like a lunatic wearing a tin foil hat. Nobody in the real world cares what made the sign lmfao.

- But its not a conspiracy, the AI bullshit is right in your face. And while it may be a very complicated subject, child labor supporting our modern lifestyles is distrurbing. Maybe if it was your kids you might be bothered?

-- So you want random people walking up to you and telling you about the child labor that goes into your clothes and every other random thing that could be "bad"? That's wild. I know Reddit is anti-social, but come on. Surely you dont believe thats a normal interaction. And if for some reason you do, please stay away from my kids and I at the fair.

--- Ofcourse im not advocating random people running around getting into others faces and going on unwarranted rants. But I think it’s conversations that people should be having. If that occasionally includes a stranger that you’ve already been conversing with I dont think its a terrible thing.

graphics at the fair have been crap since the dawn of the printing press - who cares.

- Nah, they used to be crap in a cool and interesting way.

-- Luddite nostalgia is a helluva drug.

--- Anti's are the "luddites", yet it's the pros who need a machine to help them write a "heartfelt" message to their mom, create a basic flyer, or have one read a book to their son. But, I guess I'd rather be a luddite than lose what makes me human

---- Strawmanning is a helluva drug. "If you support AI, you don't love your mother!" lol

----- More like you don't love your loved ones if you have to rely on an AI tool to do the filling in for your emotional intelligence, empathy, and compassion vs. using those skills that should be inately built into you as a human who has basic love and care for others

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/NewsThread/comments/1x11q1h/pete_hegseth_vows_to_make_first_firing_squad/

Context: R/Newsthread is one of the slew of "alternative" new subreddits

The Fort Hood shooter, Nidal Hasan, a former US Army major, executed a mass shooting at Fort Hood on Nov 5, 2009, killing 13 and wounding 32 others.

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So very pro-life of you. >He took 13 lives and injured 35 more. I think i’m allowed to celebrate his death. >>Trump caused millions of excess COVID deaths, through his insane policies. Are you going to celebrate his death? >>>Anthony fauchi was responsible for covid, didnt you guys pardon him and let him plead the 5th until he got away scot free? >>>>"plead the 5th" ...in a Republican-controlled courtroom, r*tard? Cope and seethe, snowflake. >>>>>It was controlled from day 1. What's your point? I'm against genocidal crimes against humanity and he was in fact the one who did the gain of function research after being denied multiple times in America, thats why the lab was moved to wuhan but don't wanna mention any of that no? >>>>>>Trump was a never ending line of lies and stupidity. The only good thing he did was getting the vaccine to the public quickly >>>>>>>Trump didn't do gain of function research, fauchi did and every country had very strict terms before being given the covid shots - one being a 80 year clause where you cannot sue them for covid no matter what

That's awesome >Why >>Why not? >>>Because getting pleasure out of observing live death is ghoulish and the government shouldn't facilitate morbid voyeurism for weirdos like a second rate LiveLeak making their own content. >>>>Don’t be so dramatic people have been killing each other for entertainment for thousands of years. Realistically speaking the amount of time we haven’t had stuff like this is way shorter than the amount of time we’ve had it. >>>>>That reasoning doesn’t make it right/evolved/socially/politically/or otherwise acceptable.

Veterans should get the help that they need except you >Ok, but what if he was a nonwhite former illegal immigrant trans veteran? >>You mean a snowflakes boogeyman? >>>I mean someone who checks all the marginalized boxes but disagrees with you. >>>>Ill try to help them before the guys they are supporting send me and them to a random country i guess. >>>>>Heck yeah. Because they check the marginalized boxes. >>>>>>Do you think you're doing something clever right now?

Can't wait to see how they botch this one. >I hope he suffers worse than his 50 victims. >>And what about the innocent that they (us military) inflict pain and death on? What about those people. >>>Stop with all the whatabouts. Good lord i can’t believe everyone is sympathizing with an actual terrorist. >>>>They sympathized with the woman who killed her children, they sympathized with the woman whose execution was botched without even considering the irony of it after what she had done to that poor girl she killed. They’ll sympathize with anyone who isn’t considered a part of the mainstream world they think exists. Anyone who is a criminal is innocent (unless they go against the common narrative). Women are to be believed and are innocent or were forced to commit horrible crimes. Islamic terrorists are just reacting to western imperialism! Every black male shot and killed by police were unarmed and/or cooperative and not a threat. Notice how we haven’t heard about a single mass shooting or “innocent black male” shot by police unjustly in months and in the latter case, i would argue years! They just regurgitate this week’s line. Today, it’s botched executions and the Cornell case. Tomorrow, it’ll be something else. >>>>>Don’t forget the celebrations of charlie kirk. The hypocrisy of the “tolerant left” is astounding. >>>>>>They did it with that, body shaming people, slight tinges of racial rhetoric (see the various black dedicated subs), it’s endless contradictions. It’s very boring.

Wonder if the same punishment will be applied for the person who gave the go-ahead to bomb a school full of Iranian children? >So Claude? >>Firstly, the AI excuse is bullshit. Secondly, Claude was banned at the time, so ChatGPT >>>So Sam Altman in front of a firing squad? >>>>Don’t tempt me with a good time

Sounds great until you actually see it. Civilized countries don’t do that for a reason. >Also, it's not great for the firing squad, either. Already weak morale about to get another boost to the gutter. >>Even the nazi death squads couldnt handle it mentally. They give some of the people in firing squads blanks so they cannot definitely says who killed them, so people can cope with killing a person >>>Wow really!?! That’s wild!!! Almost like the “nazis” were human beings and most human beings don’t like killing, regardless of indoctrination and brainwashing. Crazy, right? >>>>Suspicious quotes there lol Of course they were human beings. The problem is they bought into an ideology that deep down isn't real and they don't believe, yet they decided to keep acting accordingly anyways. Reminds of that reddit story where the guy spent too much time on porn and picked up a scat fetish. He finally hired a prostitute to help him and he was so excited to finally live out his fantasy and when she did it, the reality literally hit him in the face. Because it was just that, a fantasy. >>>>>Yeah, I am aware of this. The only thing I was pointing out is that it makes me roll my eyes when people say “even the nazis thought this was bad” or “even the nazis didn’t do this” as if they are some monolithic, alien race outside of homo sapien thoughts, actions and feelings. it’s idiotic. >>>>>>Just say you like Nazis bro >>>>>>>I can’t like something that doesn’t exist

Disgusting comment >Your toxic empathy is what is disgusting >>"Toxic empathy" Oh shut up. >>>Grow a set.gif >>>>I mean, you're the one crying over how others feel, sounds pretty soft.

The thread goes from arguing over evacuation policy to debating whether dead civilians are propaganda, collateral damage, or evidence of Western hypocrisy—with accusations of apologism and personal insults thrown in along the way.

A post showing the aftermath of an incident in Kramatorsk sparks an argument over civilian evacuations, responsibility for deaths, and whether Ukraine is keeping people in danger for PR reasons.

One commenter questions why civilians are still in the city:

>Awful. Kramatorsk should have been evacuated months ago. What are these people still doing there?

Another argues that Ukraine has a propaganda incentive not to evacuate:

>Evacuating Sloviansk and Kramatorsk would contradict the propaganda bit that Ukraine is winning the war. These people were sacrifised for PR reasons.

The discussion turns to whether the victims were civilians or military personnel. One commenter predicts the response:

>People here gonna say they wearing military uniforms

Another replies:

>Others called them civilians. Guess we will never knows.

A different commenter argues that the attack was probably accidental:

>It's obviously unintentional, you would never a target a bus in the middle of the road with a weapon like this, the sheer timing+precision+luck involved would be next-level. It's just collateral damage, which is always sad to see, but is inevitable in any major war.

Another commenter asks whether a frontline city should stop being attacked if its residents refuse to evacuate:

>What do you actually do when a large portion of the civilian population of a frontline city refuses to evacuate? Do you stop attacking completely? Do you continue and accept the loss of civilian lives?

The argument then shifts to Western hypocrisy over civilian casualties. One commenter brings up the Middle East:

>and no one in the west gave a shit when the middle east got turned into a mass grave either. only once they got told by the media to do so in the case of UA.

A reply asks why Russia invaded Ukraine in the first place, prompting a response accusing the commenter of performative moral outrage:

>nobody did that here. you are just over the top dramatic because you want to present yourself as the "good western Samaritan"

Another commenter suggests that Ukraine deliberately keeps civilians in danger as human shields:

>does anyone have the quote to zelensky saying that if they evacuate a city it becomes easier to capture cause russia doesnt have to avoid civilians? Basically forcing these people to stay there to be used as some kind of shield. This whole war is just horrible. Nasty screw up here on russia's part too.

The response:

>Classic Putin apogologist – straight up inventing theories without any evidence

The thread also features a particularly callous description of the victims as an example of weapon effectiveness:

>Seems to be proof that fabs are very effective at deleting people in a large radius. Unfortunately this time it was civilians.

Direct link to the exchange

Full thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/longisland/comments/1x1i3r5/by_exit_57_on_lie/

> Send the picture to the company.
> > why dont you send it? why are you ordering someone else to do the dirty work. YOU do it > > > Because it’s not their picture and they probably can’t give a single detail other than what the driver gave in this post? Omg take a breath > > > > im calm, thanks. I just love pointing out hypocrisy. why are you commanding someone else to send the pic to the company? why can't you do it?

> Long Islanders casually demanding someone to be fired without any context. Classic > > What context do you want? Guy is driving while watching a show in one of the busiest highways in NY. It should be as plain as the eye can see > > > Please educate me on how your able to tell he's driving and actually in motion. Can you even see a driver? I'll wait. > > > > I feel so bad for whoever raised you lol. That’s all I’m going to say > > > > > don't think there's power lines crossing this highway. 2) absolutely no motion blur, he's moving, you are there should be at least some. There's none. 3) might be a parking or brake light that's on. I think you took a pic stationary, thought it was funny and exaggerated. But that's speculation, as is the driver being in motion.

> Mind your business > > It's not really a mind your business situation when it's on the LIE. > > > its not? okay YOU send the pic to DOT or newsday. otherwise guess what? you are minding your business. something youre telling someone else not to do > > That shit on the expressway IS my business. And yours. And everyone else's on the road.

WTF? > > > is it? then why dont you send the pic to newsday or DOT and follow up? send the pic to the company thats on the door.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/hatethissmug/comments/1x0rmri/i_hate_the_rbaddlejackets_subreddit/

In metal and punk subculture a "battle jacket" is the name for a jacket or vest that is adorned with patches. Patches generally are band logos, sigils, symbols, or album covers. r/baddlejackets is a snark sub that makes fun of jackets that they view as "poser" or outside the music scene. Many of the posts are DIY jackets from left wing sources, often LGBTQ or trans focused. The sub is regarded as having a rightwing slant to it as they do not ostracize vests with Nazi/conservative bands on them.

/r/hatethissmug is a sub with the description "for everyone who want to bully a fictional character, here’s your safe space"

OP's thread on r/hatethissmug: i understand their frustration to an extent; battle jackets and the like are a super important piece of the metal/punk music scene and to have people throw around a term that holds a lot of significance to a widely misunderstood counterculture sucks.

but like. holy shit some of them are so miserable

i’m not sure how or why this sub keeps being recommended to me, but anytime it is it’s always either a) making fun of a child or b) treating any DIY denim jacket project as the worst thing to ever be created someone will legitimately post some long ass hate rant about “god look at this poser scum, look at this trash ruining our sacred community they don’t know anything” and then you look at the original post they’re reposting and it’s a 12 year old trying iron on patches for the first time. it’s a middle school aged child and they’re calling him slurs about it (and oftentimes opening up the original post for completely unearned hate that said child will then have to deal with)

either that or it’s just any denim DIY. like, idk who has to tell these guys, but the metal/punks scene doesn’t OWN the idea of decorated jackets 😭 someone literally posted a pic of some guy’s denim jacket that he painted princess celestia on. no claim of it being a battle jacket in sight. it doesn’t even have to be mislabeled as a battle jacket to get hate, literally anyone’s DIY project that has imagery or political messaging they think is cringe can come under fire for no reason despite not actually being related to the topic of the sub at all. you guys don’t have the monopoly on putting patches on denim 💔💔

i know saying this is ironic considering im on a hate sub, but i feel like any sub dedicated to hating without strict enforcement of the “no bullying/hating on real people” rule will inevitably just devolve into miserable people jeering at anything they don’t personally approve of.

Replies on r/hatethissmug: The irony here is all this shit comes from queer culture. You can't hate queers and be a punk.

(Writer's note: patched vests come from WW2 airmen that later joined motorcycle clubs. Metal and punk took the fashion from them in the 70s and 80s.)

you guys are so close to the answer. if only you could activate those two brain cells you have.

people defend black metal, but make fun of punk. how could that be?

yes, indeed. it's a metal subreddit making fun of punk. see, it wasn't that hard to figure out >So they're stealing their culture and then mad that the originators of the culture are still doing their thing?

Make this make sense, or are you just here to defend transphobic losers?

>>stealing who's culture? you think jackets came from punk into metal?

>>>Considering that only one subgenre of metal called thrash which is known for being more punk influenced wears them yes. Black metal is not known for battle jackets they're known for black leather.

>>>>sure buddy

have you ever seen pictures of fenriz?

>>>>>Wow I did not know Fenriz was the walking embodiment of black metal culture as a whole gosh how silly of me. I must have been hallucinating when I saw all those black leather jackets or something

>"a subreddit for bad battle jackets" looks inside transphobia

100% agree and I also understand where that sub first came from. Seeing battle jackets that had zero bands on it and only your political slogan spreadsheet vomited on a jacket makes me groan. You express your political views through the bands you support. And the constant comments like "dosen't seem very punk/metal to criticize people doing something they like" is just so annoying and ignorant of how people view these subcultures. That sub however is just people lashing out at anyone and everyone though. No discussions of the core issue like these cultures being watered down and misrepresented by the masses since forever just unfocused anger.

>there’s also a serious issue with bigotry in that sub. not very punk to hate queers 💔

but yeah they’d accomplish a lot more by creating an educational space rather than shitting on anyone who puts a patch on denim. and not to mention scaring off a lot of potential baby punks by telling them to die bc their first attempt at diy ever isn’t up to snuff 🫩

i get where the anger comes from. but it’s become destructive rather than productive

>>That's another thing too. I can't even tell if that sub is made for punk fans or metal fans which both genres despite having some political overlap are still very different. It seems to just be filled with a bunch of people who actually aren't even interested in either culture other than being shocking and provocative. I actually hate discussing metal music online now you run into these guys constantly and on the other hand you have the other side which is just as uninterested with the culture and just yell "stop gatekeeping" every time someone mentions anything.

I'm going to be as respectful as I can, and I'm not defending that sub per se, because I agree there's some really shitty people in there, but hot take:

IT EXISTS BECAUSE PEOPLE ON REDDIT DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SUBCULTURES WORK.

And before I start my little rant, no - I'm not transphobic, queerphobic or anything shitty. I am a bitter old anarchist punk who has been in the scene for around 26 years. Most of my best friends are queer and/or non-binary. I frequently do the door at trans events etc.

Redditor jackets SUCK. It's virtue signaling at best, without zero bands the majority of the time, or anything remotely politically interesting, it's just LOOK AT ME I'M TRANS. LOOK AT ME I'M QUEER.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - the trans people I know are just trying to survive ffs, and they also find these jackets fucking embarrassing.

Subcultures need identifiers and 'costumes'. That's why patched jackets are popular. None of this 'punk is just about the music' - whether you like it or not, fashion is part of that, along with the politics and DIY ethos.

I'm still convinced that the people that post these terrible jackets don't go to gigs/are not involved in their local punk community, because I've only seen one person in my entire life with the whole shitty white paint aesthetic and amazon bought patches and that was in the street. And god knows I've been a lot of places.

You could tell immediately my political outlook by looking at the band patches and badges on my jacket. There's no need to write it in tippex. It looks crap.

So yeah - the sub is shitty but it's a expected reaction to most of the dogshit you see on punkfashion or punkDIY. Nevermind other fucked up shit, like queer people putting homophobic or nazi patches on their jacket because 'they liked the design' and didn't know who the fuck the band was. I was young once, and I never did anything as cringe as this.

But that's reddit in a nutshell no? My favourite thing I've seen so far was someone on an alt sub screaming DR MARTENS WERE MADE POPULAR BY QUEER PEOPLE!! 15 year old child, step down. That's not what happened.

Rant over.

The comments on r/baddlejackets:

Fellas, y'all are famous

All battle jackets are dorky and should be made fun of, and i own 2.

Being bullied is a natural part of any 12 year olds life

Everyone needs to be bullied a little.

>joking and making fun is one thing, calling people and obvious young kids slurs is not a part of that

>>says you

That subreddit became full of insanely over the top woke posting and it went from being a light hearted shitposting sub to calling out / brigading other subs and now they just complain about "I hate this thing because it doesn't align 100% with my political and social beliefs plus God is Dead and if you're a Christian I hate you."

It's such a weird place, man.

This person has a point

>Maybe 30 year olds who live in their mother's basement shouldn't be making fun of a 12 year old's first attempt at a battle jacket. Its honestly pathetic, we should be giving contructive criticism and support, not putting down the youngins who want to be apart of these scenes

>>12 year olds shouldn’t be on social media, period

>>>fair enough… still shouldn’t be a dick to them. just tell them what they could’ve done better

>>>Even if its adults trying to make their first jacket or piece of DIY clothing, it isn't okay

>Honestly this sub is just an interesting thought experiment more than a problem to be solved.

>>This sub is dominated by women and libs. No wonder the replacement rate is so abysmal.

>>>Yeah let’s just blame women for everything

>>>Based

>>>I think we can tell what box you checked on that poll

>I have 0 kid myself so contributing in this trend but in my defense finding a decent guy is very hard most young men's don't want serious relationship.

>>This is simply not true. There are more decent men then women at this point. There's just not men that you're interested in. I know plenty of guys in there 30s who own property, aren't weird, are generally likable, and are mature.

>>>“There are more decent men then women at this point” Source?

>>>I want guys in mid to late 20s only interested in guys around my age Why is this comment getting downvoted nothing wrong with wanting someone around your age

>>>>If its not working its wrong

>>>>>Dumbest statement I’ve ever heard

>>respect. it’s not anti-natalism to say a significant portion of young men this days are not suitable or ready to be good fathers these days.

>>>a significant portion of young women are not suitable or ready to be good mothers these days.

>you need to capture age as well to get a real tfr. obviously a 15 year old on reddit doenst know their tfr

>>And what does a 15 year old know how many kids they can realistically have!? They dont even know who their future partner is! That is like 50% of the equation as to family size. If you had settled on a partner, then yes you can say how many kids you plan to have. I wanted 1, my husband wanted 0 & then was fine with 1 (he is besotted) but if i wanted 2, i would still have had 1. He had a vasectomy when i was 6 months pregnant.

>>>... u ok

>The incel cohort is over represented.

>Include me in the subredditdrama post

Background: Evan Hubinger, an AI alignment researcher, resigned from Anthropic citing safety issues around developing AI and estimating that the current trajectory of AI development having a 10% of destroying humanity if it continues. A post on r/neoliberal is submitted about this, resulting in drama from within that thread, and the discussion thread. Drama from both these threads are posted below:

Anthropic alignment thread drama

>When people wonder why AI and tech in general has a bad image with the public, it might be smart to pause and think about just how misanthropic and downright weird a lot of the sector has become recently. It’s hard to buy into data center YIMBYism when they’re being used by an industry constantly touting the fact its product is a literal existential risk Totally expecting the “graph go up” crowd to downvote me, but I’ll personally take a guarantee of being alive in 10 years over the potential for 20% greater GDP growth 11/10 times on this one

>>Mate, r/neoliberal has a bad image with "the public".

>>No one can guarantee you that you’ll be alive in 10 years. Make every day count.

>>>Sorry Mr. Pedantic, would you prefer I edit it to “humanity will be alive in 10 years”

>>>>No. Keep it as is.

>Imma need some error bars on that calculation

>>The secret sauce is that there is no calculation

>>>As in the case with any remotely complex prediction about the future, you cannot "calculate" it, but you can certainly put a probability number to it.

>>>>That doesn’t make sense at all, dude

>>>>>It clearly does. There's an obvious difference between the accuracy of the statements: "There is a 95% chance we will breach 1.5C warming by 2050" and "There's a 10% chance we will do so".

>>>>>>You can only justify placing a non-arbitrary probability to some state of affairs by showing how you derived it. If no such calculation exists then the probability is arbitrary

>>>>>>>This is beneath me

>>>>>>>>Literally the funniest shit I have seen on Reddit lmao

>R/Neoliberal: we should trust the experts. Also R/Neoliberal: not these experts!

>>More like: "These aren't experts"

>>>I think we've reached peak arrogance with this comment.

>>>Who are the AI experts?

>>>>"I christen you, Procgen, as a bonafide expert in AI generated outputs. Please accept this wall plaque and wine bottle"

>“Why are people so against data centers?!”

>>I mean most people who are against data centres just run around drooling and screaming "but da wata, da wataaa" or "it uses electricity thooooo".

>>>Bet you wouldn’t last 4 days without water

>>>>Bet I could drink the water used to cool GPUs.

>>It's not for this reason, it's for generic NIMBY reasons.

>>>It’s generic NIMBY reasons but it’s also anxiety about AI taking jobs. Most normies aren’t seriously considering AI extinction risk though.

>>>>"AI took my jerb"

>>>>>Wow you are a treat to have in these conversations

>>>No, it's impossible that the people who would want to stop apartments being built (which this sub was fervently against from day 0) would want a warehouse full of GPUs in it being built. Literally impossible. Take your downvotes because you're wrong and because AI and data centres are evil.

>>>>Reddit's slopwave remains undefeated. What will it swallow next?

>I really don't understand this mentality. In the most harsh terms, The Government has a monopoly on violence and can straight-up murder the people who work on this technology and bomb the copyright infringement factories they use.

>>Can always count on Americans to think they can bomb their way out of every problem despite decades of evidence to the contrary.

>>Could we not suggest I be murdered by the government today? Ffs.

>>>This subreddit is about worms.

>How can you calculate this? Like why 10 and not 5 or 20?

>>Sure, error bars would be nice, but I think as much as people make fun of rationalist-adjacent people, it's actually good to put your beliefs into concrete numbers. Much preferred over the usual commentariat who throw strong opinions out there without any qualification. But trying to be specific gets you made fun of, so I guess these efforts are in vain..

>>>Tragic how these reflexive appeals to incredulity are the order of the day here: "Oh my god, you're using a framework to indicate concretely how likely you think something is to happen in the future, you crack addled freak!!!!!"

>>>>aka pulling numbers out of your ass

>>>>>Which of the following two outcomes is more of a risk? 1. AI is a necessary cause in the extinction of humanity 2. I, CII_Guy am a necessary cause in the extinction of humanity How close are they in likelihood? Please answer without pulling numbers out of your ass.

Discussion Thread drama

>anti-AI threat monitoring activists be like "wahhh i like the way the cops are currently functioning in america" [This comment was made by an account with a "Pro-Data Center Zionist" flair]

>>Flair checks out

>>What?

>>👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀👌👀 good faith go౦ԁ faith👌 thats ✔ some good👌👌faith right👌👌th 👌 ere👌👌👌 right✔there ✔✔if i do ƽaү so my selｆ 💯 i say so 💯 thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷМ💯 👌👌 👌НO0ОଠＯOOＯOОଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ👌 👌👌 👌 💯 👌 👀 👀 👀 👌👌Good faith

>Anthropic Is Building a Predictive Surveillance System to Monitor Activists this is actually a good thing, not that i expect the reactionaries here to understand true vision for a better tomorrow [Pro-Data Center Zionist]

>>Yes, I love a good old surveillance state

>>>i've yet to see any argument against it that doesn't devolve into, "what if i need to do a crime?"

>>>>Oh wait you’re serious

>>>>>of course, AI is our greatest natural resource

>>This is horrible, why are you cheering this?

>>>Because I think it's overblown nonsense from a bunch of terminally online nerds and underemployed 20 somethings.

>seeing a lot of people upset about the notion that AI could potentially kill us all one day. need i remind you that a lot of things could kill us all one day and your'e not doing shit to stop that? also, if you just do what the AI says, it probably won't hurt you. [Pro-Data Center Zionist]

>My theory is that a lot of AI hate is American liberal channeling their absolute powerlessness as anger at a legitimate target. They can't bring themselves to truly hate the enemy. Their neighbors. Their fellow Americans. It is your parents, your friends and coworkers. They are the evil. But no, you just know they are nice people not like those out-of touch SF nerds. You think an AI lab is really a greater danger to America than an evangelical church? [Deleted comment]

>>God, you're such a misanthrope. This mindset is how you produce civil conflict.

>My theory is that a lot of AI hate is neoliberals channeling their absolute powerlessness as anger at a legitimate target. They can't bring themselves to truly hate the enemy. Their mods. Their fellow shitlibs. It is your substitute teachers, your unemployable college graduates and neurotic doomers. They are the evil. But no, you just know they are nice people not like those out-of touch SF nerds. You think an AI lab is really a greater danger to America than Mod Slack? [Parody of the deleted comment]

>anti ai and ai doomers will be looked upon like the anti vaxers and anti nuclear people in 50 years and no one will face any consequences regarding the deaths their anti progress behaviors have caused [Deleted comment]

>>What's your model

>I posted about anthropic institute modeling different economic scenarios and was massively downvoted within minutes before I could add a simple comment adding context about it and clearly without people having read it, lol. That's the fastest I have seen this happen. 8 mins between me posting and me adding this context comment https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/s/tPRpPAUUbA

>>Probably Altman-operated botnets.

>>It is possible to drag the subreddit out of its slop brained anti-AI malaise, but it's going to be difficult.

>Got ratioed outside the DT for suggesting that CEOs probably aren't solely motivated by money, and probably do think they're doing something good at the end of the day, even if they're misguided about it. Do people really believe that CEOs are literally sitting there saying "I want to destroy the world so I can make more money"?

>>It's truly excruciating how sloppified the subreddit has become.

>>What did you learn about going against groupthink outside of the DT

>>>"CEOs good" is just inside the DT groupthink.

This post in r/ToiletPaperUSA decries a dozen internet personalities as fake leftists posturing so they may pander to the right-wing. The only issue? Several of them do not claim to be leftists or support the right.

Moderators are active in the thread, I saved as much as I could.

EDIT: The original post has been deleted. This is the same post, same OP, in a different sub.

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Why is contrapoints on this?

>OP: She has no solidarity with Palestine or any real leftists positions. She's a big standard lib. Her having Hilary Clinton on her show should've been a clue

>>Except where she has repeatedly said what is happening there is a genocide that she opposes and she has done public streams where all of the revenue goes to charity to support Gaza. The twitter brainrot is fucking unreal with some of you people.

>>>OP: 43 upvotes on a post where your opinion is extremely unpopular. Yeah, totally not bot activity Edit: instantly downvoted. How predictable

>OP: She refuses to talk about Gaza, they she went on this self pity tour condemning the left. Say what you want about Keffals, she was dead on when she called Contrapoints the Blaire White of the establishment libs.

>>That's not true.

>>>Interesting, so she literally said that she has an opinion on Gaza and that she agrees it is a genocide? Christ these people who are hating on her suck and have no fucking lives.

>>>>OP: Lol a Pedo Klein fan saying other people have no lives? 😂

>Because young leftists think attacking people well left of center but to the right of them on any issue is politically effective

>>OP: God you right wingers are cringe

>>> I’ve voted against Trump in 3 elections little buddy, so you can say whatever you want but I know who I am. Let me know which one describes you though: Too young to vote Jill Stein voter Not an American I’m thinking 2 most likely Edit: quick downvote and no reply, #2 confirmed ☠️

>>>>OP: (This one has already been removed but they said they were too young to vote in 2024, i.e. they are at most 19 years old today)

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I guess I haven’t kept up with David Pakman in a while, wouldn’t assume he would be on this list. I might need to investigate.

>OP: He's in Israel's pocket, he condemns people boycotting Israeli companies, never talks about Gaza, claims he doesn't know what AIPAC is, and he cries about Hasan "dressing up as Mao", but weirdly complains about Epstiny being banned from the DNC and happily platforms the latter on his show, despite knowing the horrendous allegations against him.

>> Give me a break. Purity testing circular firing line left type. With your brand of “leftism” we will always lose. Always the circular firing line of “you’re not pure enough so you’re my enemy”. Don’t get me started on those ridiculous AIPAC attacks, kinda seems like you don’t know him at all.

>>>OP: Active in the H3H3, Pakman and Real Time subs. Man if that isn't a trifecta of steaming shit I don't know what is

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Trash post most of the people in the picture really suck but some of them actually work for or with an actually authoritarian government.

>OP: Who doesn't suck on this post then little man?

>OP: Lol, using bots to upvote yourself. Pathetic

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Holy shit bro the libs in these comments are soying out over your criticisms of their favorite genocide deniers

>OP: They've been stalking my posts for weeks. Defending their beloved Epstiny mainly

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Added bonus (I found funny):

OP: Yeah there is absolutely no fucking way your upvotes are organic. More botting happening on the sub

> There are people who notice your absence in their life - they knew you once, before you began to live on your phone. You should really use the phone to reach out to them and see if they want to talk to you face to face about what they've been up to, their struggles and triumphs. Also, delete your account.

>>OP: You should go fuck yourself and stop taking a moral high ground you'll never reach.

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And for CoffeeByStarlight:

Please include me in the inevitable subredditdrama post :pleading:

r/amiuglytruth is exactly what it purports to be: a subreddit where people post pictures of themselves and ask others for their opinion on whether they are ugly. Putting the obvious toxicity that such a community is bound to generate aside

A recent post in the sub by a 24 year old woman, caused quite a bit of arguing in the comments section over the poster’s weight.

https://www.reddit.com/r/amiuglytruth/s/yl54FupJAv

One commenter quickly latched onto her manner of presenting herself, and extrapolated on her character from it.

“The fillers and kissing face is ugly honestly you look like the definition of bad choices.”

“ooh harsh. i dont think shes ugly at all. people are so quick to judge.”

Another commenter immediately brings up her weight, which leads to an ensuing flame war over the attractiveness of not being skinny, complete with accusations of simping and violating the purpose of the sub:

“You’re not ugly but don’t let the “Thicc” girl hype train ruin your life too. You are mid. Your looks are just above average but you have a gut and flabby arms. Dye your hair back to normal too.”

“Def not mid. She's very pretty, and her hair looks great. Quit acting like she's 300 lbs by saying "flabby arms" and "has a gut." While she could benefit from losing a bit of weight, that doesn't automatically make her mid.

Objectively, her facial features look very symmetrical. Her nose is slim, and her lips look plump. All features that point to being attractive.”

This last comment, which asserts that OP is significantly better looking than average, immediately prompts some rebuttals:

“I could walk outside throw a paper plane off my balcony and hit ten women that look just like her and five that are objectively better looking because they don’t have a gut. I didn’t call her ugly. I didn’t even call her fat. I just said she’s out of shape basically. I even said her looks are above average. She’s not very pretty. Good looking at best. You said it yourself she can benefit from losing weight. That’s what makes her mid. You’re making it too personal with your personal preference. You should really take a look at the rules for this sub again. If you want to simp for women looking for attention there are places you’ll enjoy much more than here. These women come here for the truth and sometimes the truth is ugly even if they aren’t.”

“No man don’t gas her up. She is definitely pretty. Not ugly, but certainly mid.”

u/curryMax21 seizes on this last comment as an opportunity to absolutely eviscerate the OP’s looks, which prompts some people to defend them. At this point, things get ugly, with accusations of simping being hurled in retaliation:

“I would dare say significantly below mid. She looks average at best with a pound of face paint and could stand to skip a few pizza nights”

“Ten bucks says you’re “significantly below mid”. Your comment absolutely stinks of projection.”

“Bro calm down. 🤣 why are you so pressed. Most people are mid. It just means average. She’s not going to dm you and ask you to smash just because you’re hyping her up.”

“Is this satire?

You commented on my reply to the last guy… so you clearly read the part where I pointed out that I only spoke about him, and didn’t even mention OP.

Your reply literally focused on the part where I said that I was only here for the comments, not the pictures of attention seekers.

I haven’t hyped her up. I haven’t even complimented her.

And, spoiler alert: I’m not about to. Because I genuinely don’t care if she even read my comment, as it wasn’t directed toward her. It was only about her in a marginal and wholly unavoidable way…

But, hey… if you wanna think I’m here to clamor for someone’s attention in the most indirect possible way, instead of just accepting that I’m here for the far more obvious (and flatly stated) reason… ok. I wouldn’t stop you even if I could. Cause you’re just as important to me as she is… and that’s not at all.

Although… to be fair to you… I have spent 100% more time and effort addressing you specifically, than her. So I guess that means you’re the real MVP.

Congrats, or something.”

“Here comes the simp army 🤦”

Another user comments negatively on OP’s apparent promiscuity:

“You look like I'd catch something TBH.”

“Catch what”

“Some random STI”

“Ahh the best game. Dont know what you'll get haha”

Another comment thread also frames OP’s weight negatively, but this one doesn’t devolve into as much of a battle as the first one:

“You're at the edge of chubby.. try not to gain more weight”

“Edge of what? Chubby and morbidly obese?”

“In what made up reality is this girl anywhere near “morbidly obese”?

What a ridiculous thing to say.”

I didn’t scroll down to read most of the comments, so there may be more drama.

>Hard pass. This broad is a stinker >>How so? >>>Women are not funny in general. >>>>Feeling edgy today are we. >>>>>Feeling truthful. >>>>>>Hey, I get it honest Abe. Live your truth sister. If the only thing that can get you to chuckle is a man then that's the honest truth. No women can make me feel the joyful feeling of laughter, that's gay as hell! >>Why? >>>I just dont find her funny. Her comedy is typical relationship stuff that I just dont laugh at lol >>>>I don’t think you’ve actually seen her stand up if that’s your takeaway lol. Also it’s okay for dudes to do that in stand up but not for women— not that Taylor’s stand up is even that way. >>>>>if her stand up is anything like her performance on this pod, I'm out. >>>>>>if her stand up is anything like her performance on this pod, I'm out. >>>>>>>Dude she was navigating Foley’s relapse and awkwardness. She deserves a damn medal. >>>>>>>>They deserve a funnier guest. >>>>>>>>>I don’t like all the guests they have. I just move and don’t leave 50 comments about how I don’t like the guest. That’s what normal people do. >>>>>>>>>>Sounds like you love commenting on Reddit. >>>>>>>>>>>Sure. But I’m not responding to every comment about how much a hate a guest. That’s just weird. >>>>>>>>>>>>You love responding to me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>Sure, I’m also not telling everyone how much a guest sucked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I am telling everyone how bad a guest is. Congrats on figuring out how our comments are different. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yeah you can leave one comment about it. Not everyone needs to know what you think.

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>I heard she’s a real c u next Tuesday off stage. Hard pass. >>I have worked in a middle of nowhere comedy club that Taylor has performed in over the past ten plus years. She has been nothing short of the kindest performer to come through every single time. How she is on stage and on pods/interviews is how she is with everyone. >>>thanks - as if I needed another reason NOT to watch her standup. >>dons't surprise me at all. You can definitely tell from this pod she sucks.

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>good get, she is funny >>funny how? She didn't say a single thing on this ep that was funny. She gave David Cross a run for his money on the worst guest ever. >>>Bro you're replying to everyone on this thread about how you didn't like her. Relax dude. It'll be ok >>>>Glad my message has been conveyed >>>>>Your message of being a weird incel has been conveyed. >>>>>>What?! I’m not an incel!

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>Taylor is so hilarious and down to earth. And she was the kindest person to be on for Foley’s relapse. >>tell me which moments on this pod did she make you laugh out loud? I'd like to know if I missed something. >>>I’m not explaining anything to you lol. I’ve watched it twice and it’s funny. Sorry you hate women and don’t have a sense of humor 🤷🏻‍♂️ >>>>Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who said I hate women?? >>>>>Me. I said it. >>>>>>Omg. I had no idea saying a comic was unfunny would mean I hate women. Wow. Oh but, David cross was a disaster too. Does that mean I hate men too?!? Do I hate all genders!?! >>>>>>>David Cross is a disaster on most pods and was years ago. That’s the best you got? Love how you couldn’t name a woman that’s been on the pod that you liked and instead named a male guest from years ago. >>>>>>>>Bert, Tom, Schultz, schaub, Joey Diaz. I can go on if you want. >>>>>>>>>Still didn’t name a woman you liked on the pod bozo lol. You’re proving my point so well. >>>>>>>>>>Why would I have to? I already told you hate both male and female comics. How does hating one woman guest equate to me hating all women guests? Make sense of that reasoning for me. >>>>>>>>>>>You can’t name one female guest you’ve liked lol >>>>>>>>>>>>You can’t explain your reasoning. You have to be able to make sense of an argument you keep on trying to convey. We can all just say words and pretend they have meaning. So let me ask you one more time, how do you know i haven’t thought any female guest was funny? >>>>>>>>>>>>>You literally can’t name one female comic you found funny. That’s all the reasoning I need lol. And at this point I wouldn’t believe you if you named someone because it’s been so many callouts and you still couldn’t name one. If you can’t understand how ridiculous that is, not sure what else to tell you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>You have the logic of a 3 year old. How do you survive the world?

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>Nice! Looking forward to this one! >>spoiler alert, it sucked >>>women- first they won’t let you touch them then they think they can do comedy- booo!

>>>I was gonna make about a dozen comments on this post trying to convince people she’s not funny but looks like you beat me to it, thanks brother!

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>early? she made it a bad ep the entire time >>Dude are you commenting on every single comment? Are you okay lol? >>>Yup. Just trying to quell anyone’s delusions that this was a good ep and good guest. >>>>Think people could make that decision for themselves without commenting on all the replies? I get that you don’t like women. >>>>>Not sure they can because this ep was obviously a sad disaster. >>>>>>You seem to be one of the few who thinks this way but think you can make up for it by replying to every comment >>>>>>>It’s almost like AYG Reddit will like anything they put out. Including disaster shows like this one. You stick a wet mop in the guest chair and you guys will love it. Fucking imbeciles. >>>>>>>>I don’t like every episode. I even leave a comment when I don’t like the guest. Key thing is one comment— not replying to every comment about how much I don’t like the guest. >>>>>>>>>That’s great. Thanks for the update.