Composition in Free Pitch Space Built Around Mourning Dove Calls
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Composition in Free Pitch Space Built Around Mourning Dove Calls

I thought some here might find the process of this piece interesting. While I acknowledge there's a touch of self-promotion here, I genuinely seek feedback and insight on the result of a process like this- or maybe other creative ideas where this technique can be applied.

For the past few months I've been experimenting with composing directly in frequency (Hz) rather than thinking in terms of notes in a defined tuning system. Instead of writing within those sorts of frameworks, I build harmonies from numerical frequency relationships and just intonation, which lets the tuning stay flexible as the music develops. 

In my previous attempts this has resulted in some pretty “weird” music, so I wanted to try to keep it accessible while still exploring the idea of “what can I do with this?” 

To do so, I took a more spectral approach and analyzed recordings of several different Mourning Dove calls and used the strongest frequency near the ends of their coos as the harmonic foundations of the piece. A given coo, among several sampled in the piece, may function as the root of one chord, as a fifth within another, a microtonal harmonic, or appear as any other chord extension elsewhere, allowing the same dove material to assume different identities as the harmony remains just and “wraps” itself around the given call- no iteration of the harmony surrounding the call is the same throughout the piece.  

But of course, every dove is different. I noticed that while the overall shape of their calls is very consistent, the pitch of some calls is higher or lower than others. For instance, one dove's ending coos may land at 480 Hz, while another may land at 525 Hz. This typically would be quite problematic when trying to harmonize to the coos themselves because, while 525 Hz is very close to the note C5, 480 Hz falls somewhere between B♭4 and B4. To boot, the interval between those frequencies doesn't correspond to any standard musical interval-it falls somewhere between a minor second and a major second.

In a system where everything is defined and harmonized as numbers, however, this is no problem (Such as the modulation heard at 4:48) . The frequencies can simply adhere to and harmonize with any value. That is where the ability to truly harmonize with any dove call lies- the harmony can fit the doves, rather than the doves trying to fit “standard harmony.” This is of course just one “cool” thing you can do writing this way- you can also, say, have all voices in a given piece converge into a perfect harmonic series, which I do somewhere around 7:00 in the piece.

Rhythmically, I just used the cadence of the Mourning Dove's call. That pattern ended up becoming the main rhythmic idea while the harmony is constantly changing underneath it.

Despite all the technical harmonic thinking behind the piece, I still find overall it came out pretty “normal” sounding at most points, and I wouldn’t be surprised if some people find it emotional while others find this especially boring- I think either reaction is completely fair!

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u/Careful-Willow-2867 — 4 days ago

The Adventure Remixed in 5 Limit Just Intonation

To make up for the perceived butchering of "Everything's Magic" in a minor key, I'll share my remix of "The Adventure" tuned in just intonation.

For those who do not know, just intonation tuning involves tuning the harmonies to mathematical ratios that allow the chords to be acoustically pure or "mathematically correct". Nearly all modern music is not tuned this way because those perfect relationships only work in certain keys or musical contexts (Think of it as needing a specially fretted guitar for nearly every song)
So instead of changing the mode or emotional feel of the song, the goal this time was to try to enhance the already divine / floating / ethereal feeling this song has.

This was another tuning experiment - you may not hear any difference beyond the actual production changes made. I'm curious if you do, though- for me personally it's more of a vibe or feeling of calmness than a very audibly perceptible difference.

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u/Careful-Willow-2867 — 1 month ago
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Everything's Magic but it's retuned in a minor just in...

Mostly for the Lolz, but it's crazy just how much harmony can change the emotional impact of a song. This justly intonated 7 limit minor scale gives this piece a very different feel. Mystical, weird, and a little haunting for me personally.

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u/Careful-Willow-2867 — 1 month ago

16 Note Overtone / JI scale composition

Original microtonal composition for eight voices, written in a custom 16-note overtone scale derived from the harmonic series. This is a form of just intonation and the scale can be interpreted as the following ratios;
1/1, 33/32, 9/8, 39/32, 5/4, 21/16, 11/8, 45/32, 3/2, 25/16, 13/8, 27/16, 55/32, 7/4, 15/8, 63/32

The piece explores free counterpoint in this system, having moments of unexpected consonance that emerges from some highly unfamiliar harmonic textures. The specific overtone scale used here allows some lower limit justly intonated chords, and as you'll hear, some rather exotic upper limit ones too...
There are several intervals in the scale that fall close to a critical band, which causes them to beat. I try to take advantage of that at some points, such as at the passage that begins at 2:16. I think it sounds cool, but it might give you a headache or remind you of a broken telephone.

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u/Careful-Willow-2867 — 2 months ago

Looking to hire someone to build me a Max for Live device

I'm looking to use Max for live to program / define a frequency in Hertz and then send it as a MIDI note + pitch bend data in a digital synth that is MPE capable.

Here is the workflow I envision;

 -I place the custom made Max MIDI device before the synth. The Max device has a parameter: Target Frequency (in Hz) which is automatable via a frequency automation lane which can define specific, precise frequencies

 -In Arrangement View I program automation, such as:

Bar 1-500 Hz

Bar 4-637 Hz

Bar 5- 711.4 Hz

Etc.

The MIDI clip could literally contain the same note repeated ( such as C3,C3,C3) but the Max device ignores the note's pitch. When each note arrives, it reads the current Hz value from the automation lane, then

-calculates the nearest MIDI note to the Hz value

-calculates pitch bend

-sends corrected note to a synth that is MPE / pitch bend capable

 

If this is even possible, and something you can do, please do let me know and send me a message, name your price for your time- feel free to let me know any questions you might have before committing!
And of course, if there is an easier or more straightforward way to achieve this, I am open to that as well.

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u/Careful-Willow-2867 — 2 months ago

How to drive a synth with frequency data from Operator?

I'm looking for a way, if possible, to take frequency data from operator (Via a track that has frequency automated) and somehow convert that to data (MPE I think?) to feed into a synth on another track that supports pitch bend / microtuning, such as Arturia Pigments or others (Feel free to recommend synths this might work for)

This means gliding between frequencies over the range of intervals beyond what a pitch mod wheel usually goes up or down to.

If it's not possible I accept that, but I am willing to purchase plug-ins or other software that may be able to translate the frequency from the operator track into useable data for the synth track to accurately re-create the pitch.

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u/Careful-Willow-2867 — 2 months ago

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This is what I call a "Hz based" approach to composition, and it's a new idea (in my mind) that I'm trying. I'm curious if similar work exists.

To write material this way, there are no "notes," but rather everything is written as frequency numbers. There is not a defined scale; I'm trying to continuously adjust the frequency of all pitches or "voices" in real time to arrive at precise frequency ratios as the harmony moves forward. So it's essentially an open and fluid pitch space.
I perceive the advantage to this to be (among many practical disadvantages, if writing with the intention for live instruments) that you can essentially utilize any tuning space or framework you wish to adhere to at any given moment - Any just intonation chord, equal temperament, or other pitch relationship is possible if you are patient enough to calculate the frequency relationships / hz value.

In this piece I focused on fluid just intonation - The result is a kind of “floating” or adaptive just intonation, where the sense of root and tonal gravity drifts organically.

Core ideas experimented with in this piece;

-"Artificial Overtones" (Controllable harmonics)

-Adaptive just intonation (cycles between 5/7/11 limit and others)

-Beating frequencies aligned with the track BPM, paired with harmonic or other occurrences

-Fluid frequency / pitch space (written in numbers /hz instead of "notes")

Crazier Xen stuff / harmony picks up around 1:40

I’m curious how this comes across perceptually. . . The resulting music is to me music that is both eerily natural and unnatural at the same time, and kind of creepy and charming in an odd way. I appreciate any thoughts or if anyone knows of related work I can research or listen to that's written this way (Beyond pieces that do this naturally like a choir, string quartet, or barbershop group)

u/Careful-Willow-2867 — 3 months ago

https://reddit.com/link/1t1ygsr/video/6vn15i1curyg1/player

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Rather than working within a defined scale, I'm trying to continuously adjust the frequency of all pitches or "voices" in real time to arrive at precise frequency ratios as the harmony moves forward. At times, the music falls into recognizable just intonation chords; at others, entire pitch collections are shifted by exact Hz-based transformations, creating 'new harmonic flavor' or in reality complex just intonation chords.
The result is a kind of “floating” or adaptive just intonation, where the sense of root and tonal gravity drifts organically

Core ideas experimented with in this piece;

-"Artificial Overtones" (Controllable harmonics)

-Adaptive just intonation (cycles between 5/7/11 limit and others)

-Beating frequencies aligned with the track BPM, paired with harmonic or other occurrences

-Fluid frequency / pitch space (written in numbers /hz instead of "notes")

Crazier Xen stuff / harmony picks up around 1:40

I’m curious how this comes across perceptually. . . it's somewhere between "really weird" and "kind of cool" for me personally, but I appreciate any thoughts or if anyone knows of related work I can research or listen to that's written this way (Beyond pieces that do this naturally like a choir, string quartet, or barbershop group)

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u/Careful-Willow-2867 — 3 months ago