Borksen’s Specialist Ability Theory <> Morena May Want Her to Upgrade Contagion

Borksen’s Specialist Ability Theory <> Morena May Want Her to Upgrade Contagion

I think Borksen’s eventual ability could be something designed specifically to interact with Morena’s Contagion.

Morena said she needs a Specialist for a particular purpose, which makes me think she isn't simply looking for another powerful fighter. She may want an ability capable of improving something that Contagion itself cannot do.

My theory is that leveling through Contagion increases a member’s aura reserves and output, with Level 100 bringing them to the limit of their natural potential in those areas.

But that doesn't necessarily mean they would also have the Nen proficiency of someone who spent decades mastering Nen. They could have enormous reserves and output while still lacking the technical mastery needed to use that power efficiently.

That could be the gap Morena wants Borksen to fill.

Ability: Perfect Partner <> Symbiotic Evolution

Type: Specialist

  • Borksen chooses one Nen user to become her partner.
  • Both Borksen and the target must willingly agree on one specific way the partner’s Nen ability will be strengthened.
  • Borksen can only have one partner at a time. She cannot use the ability on herself or choose another partner while the current one is alive. Only when that partner dies can she use the ability again on someone else.
  • The enhancement lasts for as long as Borksen remains alive. If Borksen dies, the boost immediately disappears and the partner’s ability returns to its original state.

With restrictions that severe, the boost could be incredibly powerful.

Why Morena wants it

Morena would choose herself as Borksen’s partner and have her permanently modify Contagion.

The improvement would be simple:

Every level now increases Nen proficiency alongside aura reserves and output.

So while normal Contagion might bring someone at Level 100 to the maximum aura reserves and output their natural potential allows, the upgraded version would also push their Nen proficiency toward its maximum possible level.

At Level 100, they wouldn't just have the aura of a fully developed Nen user. They would have reached Ultimate-level proficiency as well.

That would be terrifying.

Morena could take ordinary people with almost no Nen experience and, through enough kills, accelerate not only decades of aura growth but potentially decades of Nen training too.

It would also explain why she specifically needs a Specialist. Borksen doesn't need to develop some unrelated broken ability, Morena may already know exactly what Contagion is missing and wants Borksen to complete it.

u/Choclon — 22 hours ago

Twelve Days of the Zodiac: Botobai Gigante

For Botobai, I'm going with Enhancement as his natural Nen affinity.

His ability itself would rely mainly on Transmutation, with some Emission. Since both categories are adjacent to Enhancement, I think they would be a natural fit for him.

As the Dragon of the Zodiacs, fire feels like an obvious theme for him, but instead of giving him ordinary flames, I wanted something specifically designed to fight Nen users.

Ability: Dragon's Breath <> Soul Fire

Type: Transmutation and Emission

The basic idea is simple:

Botobai transmutes his aura into Soul Fire, a special flame that cannot burn physical matter, only aura, using Nen itself as fuel.

If Botobai covers his fist in Soul Fire and hits someone, the fire attaches itself to their aura and begins spreading across their Ken.

The more aura the target releases, the more fuel they give the flames.

Using Knuckle's numbers as a rough reference, once Soul Fire has fully spread across a Nen user's aura shroud, it could consume around 10,000 aura units per minute. How long someone can endure it would depend on their total aura reserves.

The counter

Soul Fire has a very simple counter: Zetsu.

If the target stops releasing aura, the flames run out of fuel and disappear.

This leaves the opponent with a choice: continue fighting normally while Soul Fire rapidly burns through their reserves, or enter Zetsu and leave themselves defenseless against Botobai.

Normal people are actually more vulnerable to the ability. They still possess aura, but because they cannot consciously control it or use Zetsu, they have no way to extinguish the flames themselves.

An ordinary person would collapse from exhaustion after around 10–20 seconds of having their aura burned away.

Since they cannot see Nen, from their perspective Botobai simply touches them, they feel an intense heat spreading across their body, and then they pass out without suffering any actual burns.

Emission

Botobai can also separate Soul Fire from his body through Emission.

He can throw concentrated fireballs at individual opponents or release huge waves of fire when fighting groups.

However, detached flames have a limited range.

Without another source of aura to consume, they quickly burn through the aura Botobai initially placed into them and disappear. If they reach another Nen user before that happens, however, they attach to their aura and begin using the target as their new fuel source.

Conjured objects

Soul Fire can also consume the aura maintaining conjured objects and Nen beasts.

Once ignited, the construct begins burning away until the aura sustaining it is exhausted.

The simplest defense is to dismiss the construct. Once it disappears, so does the fire, and the user can simply conjure it again.

Abilities with special conditions that make their constructs effectively indestructible could obviously behave differently.

The risk

Soul Fire does not distinguish between Botobai's aura and anyone else's.

His own aura is fuel too.

Because of this, covering his entire body in flames would rapidly exhaust him.

Botobai compensates for this through extremely precise control of localized Zetsu. He can instantly shut off the aura flow from specific parts of his body, preventing Soul Fire from spreading farther than he wants.

For example, he could ignite his fist while closing the aura nodes around his wrist, stopping the flames from traveling up his arm.

His fighting style would therefore involve constantly opening and closing different aura nodes across his body to control exactly where the fire can exist.

Because Soul Fire is still transmuted aura, he can also conceal it with In, forcing an opponent to use Gyo to actually see the flames. They would still feel the heat and notice their aura disappearing, though Botobai rarely bothers concealing it.

Why this would fit Botobai

Botobai is a Terrorist Hunter and public prosecutor, so I like the idea of giving him an ability designed to neutralize dangerous people without necessarily injuring them physically.

It also turns his fights into a very simple dilemma.

Once Soul Fire reaches you, your own Nen becomes the thing keeping it alive.

You can keep fighting and burn through your aura.

Or do you dare use Zetsu while fighting Botobai Gigante?

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u/Choclon — 5 days ago

Twelve Days of the Zodiac: Pyon

Pyon is multilingual and, judging by her professions as a linguist and interpreter, proficient in both ancient and modern languages. She also demonstrates her skill as a programmer by developing language analysis software.

Ability: Mother Tongue <> Binding Words

Type: Manipulation

Description: Pyon has the ability to give individuals or groups commands. Once a command is given, the target will immediately comply under the effects of manipulation, but only if the target does not understand the language in which the command is given. If the target does understand the command, then Pyon herself becomes the one forced to comply, under the effects of self-manipulation.

Restrictions:

1.She can only use a command in a given language on a target once, after that, the target becomes immune to that specific language.

  1. The more resistance the target has to fulfilling the command, the more times it must be repeated, each time in a different language, to take effect.

  2. Pyon has no resistance to her own commands, no matter what they are.

  3. The longer the command, the more resistance it generates in the target, so the more it must be repeated. Commands of one word are the most effective.

  4. Can only be used on creatures capable of spoken language.

  5. When used on multiple targets simultaneously, the command treats the group as a single individual, so all the usual rules apply. If even one member of the group understands the command, it rebounds onto Pyon, and the entire group remains unaffected.

Examples of useful comands: Sit, Sleep, Lay down, Use Zetsu, Explain your ability, Stop, Kill yourself, Leave, Explain, Confess, Freeze.

As you might expect, commands like kill yourself generate the highest resistance, meaning they may need to be repeated dozens of times or more depending on the target's willpower, each repetition in a different language before taking affect. If the target understands any of the languages used, Pyon herself becomes the one forced to comply instead.

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u/Choclon — 5 days ago

Twelve Days of the Zodiac: Kanzai

My theory for Kanzai is that he's an Enhancer whose ability revolves around sacrificing his physical and mental abilities outside of combat so he can stockpile them for later.

This could also explain why Kanzai normally comes across as pretty stupid. He isn't actually dumb, he's just almost always storing part of his cognitive ability when he doesn't need it.

Ability: Starving Beast <> Delayed Gratification

Type: Enhancement

Kanzai can suppress different attributes of his body and store the lost potential as Nen.

For every 1 hour he spends storing an attribute, he gains 1 minute in which he can massively enhance that same attribute later.

He can store six attributes:

  • Strength: He becomes physically weaker while storing it.
  • Speed: His movement and reactions become slower.
  • Endurance: He becomes easily exhausted and has very little stamina.
  • Health: His natural recovery and resistance to illness are reduced.
  • Senses: His sight, hearing, smell, touch, and general awareness become dulled.
  • Cognition: His processing speed, focus, judgment, and problem-solving ability decrease. When released, he becomes an extremely sharp and capable tactical thinker. It doesn't give him knowledge he doesn't already possess.

Kanzai can store one attribute at a time, several at once, or all six simultaneously.

So if he wants, he can spend hours being weak, slow, exhausted, sickly, half-blind, and stupid while filling every reserve at once. Alternatively, he can focus on storing only the attributes he expects to need later.

He can also stop storing completely, at which point he returns to his natural baseline. Without the ability affecting him, Kanzai is actually fairly intelligent and competent across all of these areas.

Conditions

  • Only time spent awake and conscious counts toward storage.
  • Kanzai can choose to store one, several, or all six attributes simultaneously.
  • Each attribute can hold a maximum of 1,000 hours, giving him up to 1,000 minutes of normal enhanced output.

Kanzai normally keeps at least a few attributes charging whenever he doesn't need them, with cognition being one of the ones he stores most often.

Apex Predator

Kanzai's trump card is Apex Predator, a state in which he releases all six reserves simultaneously.

Unlike simply enhancing all six attributes at their normal rate, Apex Predator burns through his stored reserves 100 times faster, producing a correspondingly greater boost.

His strength and speed explode, his endurance allows him to fight at maximum output without slowing down, his body recovers from damage at an incredible rate, his senses become exceptionally sharp, and his enhanced cognition allows him to process all of that information and react almost instantly.

For every 1 minute spent in Apex Predator, Kanzai consumes 100 stored hours from each of his six reserves.

This means that even with the maximum 1,000 hours stored in every attribute, he could maintain Apex Predator for only 10 minutes.

For those few minutes, however, Kanzai becomes the complete opposite of how he normally appears: an incredibly powerful, fast, perceptive, resilient, and intelligent fighter operating far beyond what any of his individual enhancements could normally achieve.

The catch is that accumulating that much power would require him to spend an absurd amount of his normal life deliberately handicapping himself.

Fortunately, Kanzai has only ever needed to use Apex Predator a handful of times in his life. While the effect is active, he genuinely considers himself the strongest Nen user alive.

Whether that confidence is justified is another question, but according to Kanzai, Netero was the only person who ever managed to survive a full spar against him until Apex Predator ran out.

The weaker Kanzai is willing to live, the stronger he gets to fight.

References / Inspiration

Mistborn / Feruchemy: inspiration for the idea of storing attributes while weakened and releasing them later.

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u/Choclon — 6 days ago

Twelve Days of the Zodiac: Pariston Hill

We still know almost nothing about Pariston’s Nen ability, but I think an ability built around other people's expectations of him would fit him perfectly.

Pariston is at his most dangerous when he can manipulate people, create uncertainty, and turn situations into games. So instead of giving him an ability with one straightforward function, I think his Nen could reward exactly that behavior.

Ability: Public Opinion <> Self-Fulfilling Prophecy

Type: Specialization

The basic idea is simple:

Pariston's Nen ability becomes whatever the people around him genuinely expect his ability to be.

If someone believes Pariston has an ability that lets him read minds, his Nen begins moving in that direction.

If they believe he can manipulate people, it develops properties related to Manipulation.

If they become convinced that he has some kind of defensive or offensive ability, his Nen attempts to reproduce what they expect.

The important part is that Pariston himself does not directly choose the ability.

He has to make other people choose it for him.

The conditions

- If nobody has any real expectation about Pariston's ability, he cannot manifest anything.

- If only one person believes he possesses a certain power, that belief alone is enough to make it real, as solid as the conviction behind it. But if that person's certainty wavers, so does the ability itself, becoming just as unstable as the belief that shaped it.

- The more people who share the same expectation, the stronger and more complete the resulting ability becomes.

- If several people expect completely different things, the ability becomes weaker, unstable, or may not activate at all.

- The ability has a maximum range of 100 meters. The closer a person is to Pariston, the greater the influence their expectations have on it.

Why this would fit Pariston

Pariston could deliberately plant evidence, lie about what his ability does, dress differently, change his fighting style, allow himself to be injured, pretend certain attacks don't work on him, or arrange entire situations just to manipulate his opponent's theory about his Nen.

Against Pariston, your attempt to understand his ability would be the mechanism that creates it.

The risk

This would also be an extremely dangerous ability for Pariston himself.

He cannot completely control what people believe.

If his opponents become convinced that his ability has some terrible limitation, that limitation might become real too.

If they deliberately spread contradictory theories, they could prevent him from forming anything useful.

And if Pariston misjudges someone psychologically, he could accidentally give himself an ability that is completely useless for the situation.

So the ability could theoretically become almost anything, but only if Pariston successfully manipulates the people around him into creating exactly the expectation he needs.

That combination of enormous versatility, psychological warfare, and ridiculous risk feels perfect for him.

Pariston wouldn't win because his Nen ability is inherently overpowered.

He would win because he convinced you that it was.

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u/Choclon — 8 days ago

The Succession Contest Could Succeed With Six Princes Still “Alive”.

The Succession Contest supposedly requires a single surviving prince, but that may not mean every other prince must permanently disappear. Several Nen abilities and unusual circumstances could allow princes to die, become ineligible, or otherwise leave the contest while still surviving in some form after the ritual concludes.

Kacho

Kacho is already the clearest example. The real Kacho died during the escape attempt, which removed her from the Succession Contest. However, her Guardian Spirit Beast remained behind, copied her appearance and memories, and continued protecting Fugetsu.

From the ritual’s perspective, Kacho is dead. Yet from Fugetsu’s perspective, Kacho is still beside her and behaves almost exactly like the original. This establishes that a prince can be eliminated without completely disappearing from the story. If Fugetsu wins, she could remain with Kacho even though the ritual only recognizes one surviving prince.

Benjamin

Benjamin may soon become another version of the same loophole.His Guardian Spirit Beast appears capable of activating after his death, merging with his Nen and choosing someone from his bloodline as its new host. The most likely candidate would be his secret child.

We do not know whether Benjamin himself would remain conscious inside the beast. It might only preserve his aura and intentions rather than his full personality. Still, it creates the possibility that some version of Benjamin could continue existing after his death.

Like Kacho, Benjamin could be considered dead and ineligible while his Nen remains active through someone else.

Woble

Woble’s survival depends on the fact that the real Woble was swapped before the voyage ceremony. If the real Woble never participated in the departure ceremony, then he would never have been recognized as an eligible contestant in the Succession Contest. 

That means the real Woble could remain safely on the mainland throughout the entire contest. He would not need to win, escape, or exploit a Nen ability because, from the ritual’s perspective, he was never a participant in the first place.

Halkenburg

Halkenburg creates the strangest problem because his ability separates a prince’s body from their soul.His original body may die, while his consciousness continues living inside another person. But what happens if the person he possesses is also a prince?

Imagine Halkenburg taking control of Fugetsu and Fugetsu eventually becoming the final eligible contestant. Would the ritual see one surviving prince because only Fugetsu’s body remains? Or would it somehow recognize that Halkenburg’s soul is also inside her and still competing? If the ritual considers them one prince then Halkenburg could also be around even after the ritual end.

Camilla

Camilla could potentially survive through timing. Her ability activates after her death, kills her attacker and uses their life to revive her. That means there is a brief period in which Camilla is genuinely dead before she returns.

What would happen if Camilla were the second-to-last eligible prince and her death caused the ritual to recognize someone else as the winner? The ritual might conclude, declare the remaining prince victorious and transfer its accumulated power. Camilla’s ability could then finish activating and resurrect her after the Succession Contest had already ended.

She might return without her Guardian Spirit Beast and without any right to the throne, since the contest would already have a winner. Camilla would technically lose through death but still survive afterward.This would require extremely precise timing, and the ritual may not declare a winner immediately. Camilla’s resurrection would also fail if her killer could not be targeted by her ability. Still, the possibility exists.

The Six-Survivor Scenario

Under exactly the right circumstances, the Succession Contest could end with one official survivor while six princes remained in some form.

  • Fugetsu could become the declared winner while Halkenburg’s soul lived inside her body.
  • Kacho could continue existing beside Fugetsu as her Guardian Spirit Beast.
  • Benjamin could survive through his post-mortem beast after it attached itself to his child.
  • The real Woble could be safely hidden on the mainland and disconnected from the ritual.
  • Finally, Camilla could die just before Fugetsu was declared the winner, only to resurrect after the ritual had already concluded.

The ritual would technically end with only one surviving contestant, but six princes would still exist in one form or another.

I would honestly like an ending like this. I still want the Succession War to be bloody and for its deaths to have serious consequences, but several princes have enough potential to remain relevant after this arc.

This could be Togashi’s way of having his cake and eating it too: the ritual succeeds, only one prince wins, but resurrection, possession, substitution and post-mortem Nen allow several of the others to survive.

u/Choclon — 11 days ago

Tserriednich's Nen Ability: Parallel Future (Theory and Mechanics of How I Think It Works)

Prince Tserriednich only awakened his Hatsu recently and the manga hasn't spelled out the internals yet, so this is my working theory on how the three moving parts actually fit together mechanically.

**Ability: Parallel Future

Type: Specialization**

Description: The ability is really three sub-abilities firing as one package, powered by a Conjured Nen beast that slowly stockpiles aura over time like a battery.

1.Precognition: He sees exactly 10 seconds into the future, but the vision isn't from his own eyes, it's fed to him from the Nen beast's perspective.

2.Clone: A conjured double is superimposed on his current position and plays out the vision he just saw, beat for beat.

3.Intangibility: His real body goes intangible and invisible at the same instant.

How it activates:

The whole sequence is gated behind Zetsu. He drops into Zetsu and shuts his eyes, and all three abilities trigger together in a single instant.

Duration and the beast-reserve limiter:

The base window is 10 seconds. He can stretch it by simply staying in Zetsu with his eyes closed, the vision refreshes, the clone keeps performing, he stays intangible. But this isn't free: every second draws down the Nen beast's stored aura, and that pool is finite.

Reserve cap: ~10 minutes of continuous activation before the beast runs dry.

Staggered shutdown (Zetsu broken / eyes opened/ reserve limit reached): The instant he drops Zetsu or opens his eyes, the precognition cuts off immediately, no more incoming vision. But the clone and his intangibility don't drop with it; the beast keeps the clone running and keeps him intangible for another 10 seconds before everything shuts off. The same happens when he runs out of aura.

Recharge: once depleted, he has to drop out of Zetsu and let the beast passively refill, which takes roughly 10 hours to top back up to a full 10-minute charge. He can use the ability before the beast is fully charged, though, he just gets a shorter window before it runs dry.

Restrictions:

1.Requires the beast to have banked aura beforehand, no aura, no activation.

2.The clone can only replay what was already shown in the vision; it's not independently reactive to anything that deviates from that 10-second window.

3.Intangibility only applies to the real body, the clone is fully tangible/visible, since it's the thing standing in for him. Intangibility means he can't interact with anything; he can only change position.

4.He must stay at a certain distance from the clone and nen beast.

As you can see, I disagree with the view that he creates an illusion or hypnosis, I think he conjures an actual clone of himself. This could be checked, for example, by looking at where the bullets that were shot at him ended up. If he were an illusion, you'd expect the bullets to hit the wall behind him. But if he's a clone, the bullets would end up where the clone fell to the ground.

What makes this ability impressive to me isn't the precognition, we've seen future sight before, it's the intangibility. That part feels like the truly unique piece of the ability.

u/Choclon — 12 days ago

Tserriednich's Nen Ability: Parallel Future (Theory and Mechanics of How I Think It Works)

Prince Tserriednich only awakened his Hatsu recently and the manga hasn't spelled out the internals yet, so this is my working theory on how the three moving parts actually fit together mechanically.

Ability: Parallel Future

Type: Specialization

Description: The ability is really three sub-abilities firing as one package, powered by a Conjured Nen beast that slowly stockpiles aura over time like a battery.

1.Precognition: He sees exactly 10 seconds into the future, but the vision isn't from his own eyes, it's fed to him from the Nen beast's perspective.

2.Clone: A conjured double is superimposed on his current position and plays out the vision he just saw, beat for beat.

3.Intangibility: His real body goes intangible and invisible at the same instant.

How it activates:

The whole sequence is gated behind Zetsu. He drops into Zetsu and shuts his eyes, and all three abilities trigger together in a single instant.

Duration and the beast-reserve limiter:

The base window is 10 seconds. He can stretch it by simply staying in Zetsu with his eyes closed, the vision refreshes, the clone keeps performing, he stays intangible. But this isn't free: every second draws down the Nen beast's stored aura, and that pool is finite.

Reserve cap: ~10 minutes of continuous activation before the beast runs dry.

Staggered shutdown (Zetsu broken / eyes opened/ reserve limit reached): The instant he drops Zetsu or opens his eyes, the precognition cuts off immediately, no more incoming vision. But the clone and his intangibility don't drop with it; the beast keeps the clone running and keeps him intangible for another 10 seconds before everything shuts off. The same happens when he runs out of aura.

Recharge: once depleted, he has to drop out of Zetsu and let the beast passively refill, which takes roughly 10 hours to top back up to a full 10-minute charge. He can use the ability before the beast is fully charged, though, he just gets a shorter window before it runs dry.

Restrictions:

1.Requires the beast to have banked aura beforehand, no aura, no activation.

2.The clone can only replay what was already shown in the vision; it's not independently reactive to anything that deviates from that 10-second window.

3.Intangibility only applies to the real body, the clone is fully tangible/visible, since it's the thing standing in for him. Intangibility means he can't interact with anything; he can only change position.

4.He must stay at a certain distance from the clone and nen beast.

As you can see, I disagree with the view that he creates an illusion or hypnosis, I think he conjures an actual clone of himself. This could be checked, for example, by looking at where the bullets that were shot at him ended up. If he were an illusion, you'd expect the bullets to hit the wall behind him. But if he's a clone, the bullets would end up where the clone fell to the ground.

What makes this ability impressive to me isn't the precognition, we've seen future sight before, it's the intangibility. That part feels like the truly unique piece of the ability.

u/Choclon — 19 days ago

Pyon's Nen Ability — Mother Tongue: command-based Manipulation.

Pyon is multilingual and, judging by her professions as a linguist and interpreter, proficient in both ancient and modern languages. She also demonstrates her skill as a programmer by developing language analysis software.

Ability: "Mother Tongue"

Type: Manipulation

Description: Pyon has the ability to give individuals or groups commands. Once a command is given, the target will immediately comply under the effects of manipulation, but only if the target does not understand the language in which the command is given. If the target does understand the command, then Pyon herself becomes the one forced to comply, under the effects of self-manipulation.

Restrictions:

1.She can only use a command in a given language on a target once, after that, the target becomes immune to that specific language.

  1. The more resistance the target has to fulfilling the command, the more times it must be repeated, each time in a different language, to take effect.

  2. Pyon has no resistance to her own commands, no matter what they are.

  3. The longer the command, the more resistance it generates in the target, so the more it must be repeated. Commands of one word are the most effective.

  4. Can only be used on creatures capable of spoken language.

  5. When used on multiple targets simultaneously, the command treats the group as a single individual, so all the usual rules apply. If even one member of the group understands the command, it rebounds onto Pyon, and the entire group remains unaffected.

Examples of useful comands

Sit, Sleep, Lay down, Use Zetsu, Explain your ability, Stop, Kill yourself, Leave, Explain, Confess, Freeze.

As you might expect, commands like kill yourself generate the highest resistance, meaning they may need to be repeated dozens of times or more depending on the target's willpower, each repetition in a different language before taking affect. If the target understands any of the languages used, Pyon herself becomes the one forced to comply instead.

u/Choclon — 23 days ago

Theorizing Hanzo's full Nen kit: Friction, Camouflage, Twin Blades, and the Doppelganger

Hanzo is a ninja and licensed Hunter, first introduced as a competitor in the 287th Hunter Exam.

Hanzo Skill 1 — Sure Step (Friction Manipulation) Transmutation

Hanzo imbues his aura with the properties of friction. He can use it to slide across surfaces with zero resistance, or the opposite, cling to walls and even walk across ceilings like a true ninja.

Hanzo Skill 2 — Hidden Leaf (Camouflage) Conjuration

If Hanzo stands completely still, his body takes on the color and texture of whatever is behind him, rendering him nearly invisible to the eye. Similar to Texture Surprise, this would work by conjuring a layer over himself that mimics his surroundings rather than altering his own aura's nature.

Hanzo Skill 3 — Twin Fang (Dual Blade Transmutation) Transmutation

Hanzo transmutes his aura into a blade, similar to the one he used during the Hunter Exam, he can manifest it on both arms at once, letting him fight with a blade in each hand.Similar to Gon's Scissors.

Hanzo Skill 4 — Art of the Doppelganger (Clone) Conjuration, Manipulation & Emission

Confirmed from canon: Hanzo can project a double of himself which can phase through matter and hover in the air, with his consciousness leaving his body while he uses this ability, putting it in a state similar to sleep.

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u/Choclon — 24 days ago

Nanika's "no limits" thing kind of bugs me, how far did anyone actually test that?

Everyone repeats that Nanika can grant literally anything, no ceiling. But when you list out what's actually been wished for on-page, it's... not much. A servant asked to be a billionaire and cash fell out of the sky from a hijacked cargo ship. Illumi got teleported across a continent. Milluki used a wish to get a new computer, and once to have someone killed. And the "biggest" wish ever granted was Nanika undoing Gon's contract and healing his body, which is huge, but he was never confirmed dead, just basically destroyed.

That's it. That's the whole track record. Nobody has ever asked for anything cosmic, so would "destroy the sun" even register as a valid wish, or would it just... not go through.

There's another clue worth considering: to heal or exorcise, she needs to physically touch the target. But for killing, she routes it through her own separate fail-request consequence instead of killing the target directly. That's not nothing. It suggests Nanika might be more limited, mechanically, than the "infinite wish granting" reputation implies.

So genuinely curious what people think happens if someone actually pushes it, stop time, revive someone who's actually dead and buried, make someone a god. Does it just fail silently? Does the backlash get apocalyptic instead?

u/Choclon — 27 days ago

Theory: Ging's Nen ability - "Random Mastery"

Ging is a Specialist, and I think his ability is a stranger cousin of Kurapika's Emperor Time, same idea of unlocking full mastery, but without a brutal condition. His condition is just chance itself.

Random Mastery: every day, Ging's affinity randomly shifts to one of the five Nen types. Whatever he lands on, he gets 100% efficiency, no penalty. He has zero control over the roll.

Basically, Ging's a walking loot box that occasionally rolls. Also explains why nobody's ever nailed down his "real" Nen type, it's never the same one for long.

With this ability, Ging has two ways he could be using it:

Option 1 — Five fixed abilities. He built five completely different signature abilities, one per type, and can only use a given one on the day his affinity actually matches it. Miss the window, and it's locked until the wheel lands there again.

Option 2 — No fixed abilities at all. His proficiency at 100% efficiency might just be high enough that he doesn't need pre-built abilities. He can freestyle whatever the day's type allows, on the fly, no rigid kit, just raw mastery applied to whatever he needs in the moment. This would explain how he pulled off copying Leorio's ability so effortlessly, not a prepared technique, just him being that good whenever his affinity lines up.

Bonus: this is probably where Kite got the idea for Crazy Slots. Same philosophy, just aimed at a weapon instead of an affinity, surrender control to chance, but make the payout disproportionate when it lands.

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u/Choclon — 1 month ago

The Price of a Wish: How Ai Uses and Replenishes Its Aura

My theory is that Ai does not possess unlimited reality-warping magic. Instead, an Ai is essentially a sentient mass of Nen with an enormous, but still finite, aura reserve.

Its wishes are real Nen abilities, its body is made from that Nen, and the system of demands and punishments exists to replenish whatever aura it spends.

What an Ai actually is

Ai is described as a gaseous lifeform from the Dark Continent. I think that description may be more literal than it appears.

An Ai may not have a normal biological body at all. It could be a mass of sentient aura whose Nen reserve is not merely a source of energy, but its actual physical existence.

This could also make Ai functionally immortal. It would not age like a human because there is no ordinary biological body growing older underneath the aura. However, that would not make it indestructible. If its entire Nen reserve were consumed, there would be nothing left maintaining its existence.

How Ai survives on the Dark Continent

I do not think Ai normally requires a human host.

A wild Ai could move around the Dark Continent in its gaseous form, encounter humans or other creatures and grant their desires. However, every wish would consume part of its finite reserve.

Unlike a human Nen user, whose aura naturally recovers through rest, an Ai might be unable to regenerate its own reserve. It would therefore need to harvest aura or life force from other living beings.

That may be the real purpose of the wish-and-demand system.

Ai grants a desire, spends part of its reserve and then forces other people to complete increasingly cruel demands. When those demands are refused, the resulting deaths allow Ai to recover the energy it previously spent.

The punishment is therefore not arbitrary. It is debt collection.

The larger the wish, the more aura Ai consumes. The more it consumes, the greater the payment it must collect afterward. Once someone dies and the debt is paid, the demands return to a lower level because Ai’s reserve has been replenished.

Nanika may be an unusual Ai

Nanika would not necessarily represent the normal condition of the species.

My theory is that a Zoldyck ancestor encountered an Ai on the Dark Continent and somehow caused it to attach itself to a human host. That relationship may have been created by a wish, an agreement or even a request as simple as “be my friend.”

Once attached to Alluka, Nanika gained access to something a wild Ai normally lacks: a human body with naturally regenerating aura and life force.

This could explain why Killua’s commands work differently from ordinary wishes.

When another person receives a wish, Nanika uses its own reserve and later collects payment through the requests. But when Killua gives Nanika a command, Nanika may instead draw from Alluka’s personal aura (or life force).

That energy can recover naturally with rest, so no external payment is necessary.

It would also explain why healing leaves Alluka exhausted. After healing Gon, Alluka did not collect lives as payment, she fell asleep. That looks less like a supernatural sacrifice and more like a Nen user suffering from extreme aura exhaustion.

A wild Ai cannot recover in this way because it does not have a biological host. Nanika can.

Ai does not grant wishes through “magic”

The final part of the theory is that Ai does not possess one ability capable of ignoring every rule of reality.

Instead, Ai translates a wish into a desired result, determines which Nen abilities could create that result and then uses the method requiring the least amount of aura.

Imagine asking Ai for a new computer.

It could use Conjuration to create a complete computer from nothing. However, reproducing every component of a complicated machine would presumably consume a huge amount of aura.

The cheaper alternative would be to locate an existing computer and use Emission a teleportation ability to bring it to you.

Both methods technically grant the same wish, but teleporting an existing object would likely be far less expensive than creating one from scratch. Ai would therefore choose teleportation.

The same logic could explain the billionaire wish. Nanika apparently did not create an enormous quantity of counterfeit money. Existing money was transported from a blimp and dropped near the person who made the wish. Rather than producing wealth through Conjuration, Nanika used the cheapest available method: moving money that already existed.

Healing could use Enhancement, manipulation of the body or some form of Nen exorcism. Transportation could use Emission. Material objects could be teleported or Conjured depending on which option costs less. Specialization would only be necessary when the other categories could not accomplish the requested result efficiently.

Ai’s “wish-granting ability” would therefore be less like unlimited reality manipulation and more like an automatic Nen optimizer.

It identifies the result you want and finds the cheapest combination of Nen categories capable of producing it.

This may also reveal how to kill an Ai

If an Ai’s aura reserve is its actual body, then forcing it to spend its entire reserve would kill it.

The crucial condition would be that Ai is compelled to attempt any wish it accepts and cannot simply refuse or safely stop when the cost becomes too high.

Suppose you encounter a wild Ai on the Dark Continent and want to eliminate it. Fighting it directly might be almost impossible. Instead, you could ask for something absurdly expensive:

“Destroy the sun.”

Ai would search for a Nen method capable of fulfilling the request, but no ability within its reserve could accomplish it. If the rules force it to keep spending aura while attempting the wish, it would eventually consume every remaining unit of Nen.

The wish would fail, but the Ai would also disappear because no aura would remain to maintain its body.

That would make Ai’s greatest power its fatal weakness.

It can grant almost any realistic wish by finding the cheapest Nen-based solution, but a wish exceeding its maximum reserve could force it to destroy itself trying.

The healing exception

There is one major problem with this theory: healing seems to follow different rules from ordinary wishes.

When Nanika heals someone, she must physically touch the target. That additional condition suggests healing is either more difficult than her other abilities or operates through a separate Nen mechanism.

After healing Gon, Nanika fell asleep from exhaustion, but the previous requests were also reset. No one needed to die to replenish the aura spent on the healing.

That creates an obvious question: if healing consumes Ai’s finite reserve, why does Nanika not need to collect life force afterward?

I see two possible explanations.

1. Healing uses the target’s life force

Healing, bodily reconstruction and Nen exorcism may not consume Nanika’s own reserves in the same way as other wishes.

Instead, Nanika may use the aura or remaining life force of the person she touches. Her ability could reorganize, amplify or redirect the target’s own energy to repair their body.

The touch condition would be necessary because Nanika needs direct contact to access and manipulate that person’s aura.

Under this interpretation, Nanika acts more like a catalyst than an energy source. The target provides most of the power, while Nanika uses her ability to control the healing process.

Her exhaustion afterward could come from the enormous mental and Nen strain required to perform such precise reconstruction, rather than from permanently losing part of her own reserve.

This could also explain why healing someone who is still alive is possible while true resurrection may not be. Nanika needs an existing body, aura and life force to work with. If the person is completely dead and their life force is gone, there may be nothing left for her ability to repair.

2. Healing wishes follow separate recovery rules

The other possibility is that healing does consume Nanika’s own aura, but aura spent on healing can regenerate naturally.

In this version, the wish system distinguishes between constructive and destructive uses of Nen.

Aura spent granting ordinary material wishes, teleportation or large-scale alterations creates a debt that must be repaid by harvesting life force. However, aura spent healing, repairing or removing harmful Nen may be recoverable through sleep and rest.

That would explain why Nanika falls asleep after a major healing but does not need anyone to die. Her reserves were depleted, but they were not permanently consumed. She simply needs time to regenerate them.

The touch requirement could be a restriction that makes these otherwise extremely expensive healing abilities possible. By limiting healing to a person Nanika can physically touch, the ability becomes more efficient and reduces the aura cost.

This would mean healing is not merely another wish produced by the cheapest available Nen category. It belongs to a special branch of Ai’s power with its own conditions:

  1. Nanika must touch the target.
  2. The process causes severe exhaustion.
  3. The requests and punishment level reset afterward.
  4. The expended aura can recover naturally rather than through deaths.

Either explanation could solve the apparent contradiction.

Healing may use the target’s own life force, or healing may be the one type of wish that allows Ai’s reserves to regenerate naturally. It is also possible that both are true: Nanika draws primarily from the target’s energy but must still spend some of her own aura to control and complete the process.

In any case, the different conditions strongly suggest that healing, repair and Nen exorcism do not operate under exactly the same rules as Nanika’s normal wish-granting system.

u/Choclon — 1 month ago
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Nen Efficiency vs Nen Mastery: A framework for thinking about Nen types (and what happens if you change categories)

I've been chewing on two concepts that I think get conflated a lot in Nen discussions: efficiency and mastery. Splitting them apart actually clears up a lot of confusion, and it leads to an interesting question about specialists that I'd love to hear takes on.

When I say Hatsu, I mean Hatsu as the fourth of the Four Major Principles of Nen (Ten, Zetsu, Ren, and Hatsu) — the act of expressing your aura, not a nen ability. Aura can technically be expressed in unlimited ways, but any expression that doesn't fit the five categories (Enhancement, Transmutation, Emission, Conjuration, and Manipulation) gets classified as Specialization by default, making it less a sixth "type" and more a catch-all for what resists categorization.

Nen Efficiency

Efficiency is simply: how much of the aura you pour into your Hatsu actually gets used for that Hatsu's effect vs. how much is lost.

  • An Enhancer who dumps 100 aura into enhancing his body gets ~100 aura worth of enhancement. Basically no loss.
  • A Conjurer who dumps 100 aura into enhancing his body only gets 60 aura worth of actual enhancement — the other 40 is lost because enhancement isn't his natural affinity.

So efficiency = "how clean is the conversion from raw aura to effect."

Nen Mastery

Mastery is a separate axis, and it actually has two parts:

  1. Learning speed — how fast/easily you can pick up techniques in a given category.
  2. Ceiling — the maximum level of proficiency you could ever reach in that category, no matter how long you train.

Let's put the ceiling on a 1–10 scale for simplicity.

  • An Enhancer learns Enhancement fastest of all, and can eventually hit a 10/10 ceiling in it.
  • A Conjurer learns Enhancement at maybe 60% the rate they learn Conjuration, and their ceiling in Enhancement caps out around 6/10, no amount of training gets them past that wall.

So your affinity doesn't just make you faster at learning your category, it also raises the ceiling for how good you can get.

We don't know what a born Specialist's efficiency looks like, but we do know they can learn all categories with the same ease and reach level 10 mastery in each of them.

The question: what happens when an Enhancer becomes a Specialist?

This is the part I keep going back and forth on.Say an Enhancer, deep into adulthood, changes into a Specialist (however you want to justify that in-universe). Two things could plausibly happen to his original Enhancement efficiency:

Option A — Efficiency collapses toward baseline. His 100% efficiency in Enhancement drops down toward something like ~40%, because becoming a Specialist fundamentally rewrites his relationship to aura conversion. He's now a Specialist first, and Enhancement is just another category to him.

Option B — Old efficiency is grandfathered in. He keeps his 100% efficiency in Enhancement (it's baked into how his aura already flows, like muscle memory), and his efficiency diagram remains that of a normal enhancer.

For both options the real change is what opens up going forward: he can now learn every other category with the same ease he used to reserve only for Enhancement, and can eventually hit a 10/10 ceiling in all of them, not just his original affinity.

On top of that, he gains a unique Hatsu that doesn't fit neatly into any of the five categories at all, a genuinely new expression of his Nen, and that Hatsu runs at 100% efficiency.

If Option A were true, becoming a Specialist would functionally be a punishment for anyone with a strong pre-existing affinity, which seems to contradict how Specialist is framed as the rarest and "best" type.

If Option B is right I think Kurapika, when his eyes turn scarlet, but before he activates Emperor Time, has the same efficiencies as a normal Conjurer.

That makes me consider a further possibility: maybe every Specialist, even those born into the category, have the underlying efficiency profile of one of the other five types (at random). That would explain why Kurapika says revealing his type as a Specialist gives his opponents no real advantage, if Specialists only had, say, 40% efficiency in Enhancement, that would be a pretty valuable piece of intel to hand over. Instead, maybe every Specialist quietly carries the efficiencies of another type underneath, while still being able to learn all six categories with equal ease and reach level 10 in each with training, and have their unique Hatsu at a 100% efficiency.

Discussion

  • Do you think efficiency in your original category should be preserved or reset if you shift to Specialist?
u/Choclon — 1 month ago

Hisoka Didn’t Get Stronger After Death, Bungee Gum Did.

My theory is that Hisoka did not receive a general Nen power-up after his resurrection. Instead, Bungee Gum itself was permanently strengthened by post-mortem Nen

Before dying, Hisoka covered his heart and lungs with Bungee Gum and commanded it to contract after his death. His Nen remained active, carried out the command and revived him.

I believe that boost did not completely disappear once Hisoka returned to life.

This would not mean that Hisoka suddenly gained larger aura reserves, greater output, better Nen control or more physical strength. The post-mortem effect would apply specifically to Bungee Gum, because Bungee Gum was the ability active while he was dead.

Its limits may now be greater:

  • It could stretch farther before tearing.
  • It could contract with more force.
  • It could be more adhesive or durable.
  • It could remain active longer after being detached from Hisoka.

Chapter 80 establishes that detached Bungee Gum tears after being stretched beyond ten meters. If post-revival Hisoka eventually exceeds that limit, it could be evidence that the ability was permanently enhanced.

I also do not think Hisoka’s missing hand and foot are upgrades. His Bungee Gum prostheses may give him new movement options, but losing real limbs should still be a disadvantage. If rubber limbs were automatically superior, Hisoka could replace all four of his limbs with Bungee Gum.

Texture Surprise probably did not receive the same boost, since Hisoka only used it after reviving. His use of Texture Surprise on the artificial limbs may simply show that he could always apply it to a Bungee Gum surface, or that he previously hid the ability’s full versatility.

There are other examples that support the distinction between strengthening an ability and strengthening the user overall.

Camilla does not appear to become stronger every time she dies. Her post-mortem Nen empowers Cat’s Name so that it can kill her murderer and resurrect her, but there is no indication that each death increases her total aura, output or general combat ability.

Benjamin Baton may work similarly. Benjamin inherits the abilities of loyal guards after they die. It is possible that he receives post-mortem-enhanced versions of those abilities, although the manga has not confirmed this.

Sun and Moon remains the strongest comparison. The original owner’s death caused the ability to remain inside Skill Hunter and changed how its marks behaved. This shows that post-mortem Nen can permanently preserve or alter a specific ability.

So my theory is not that Hisoka became universally stronger after death.

Hisoka may have the same overall aura as before, but a stronger version of Bungee Gum.

u/Choclon — 1 month ago

The Princes Were Never the Targets.

Chapter 401, this is when Longhi tells Kurapika that she is the daughter of Beyond. It turns out that she is not the only one. Beyond has more than 10 kids. He had these kids with women in the Kakin military over about thirty years.

Beyond put a nen curse on his children when they were born. This curse is an eye-globe that is hidden under their tongue. You can only see it if you use Gyo. When they die this curse activates. It kills the person that was set as a target.

Longhi thinks that one of Nasubis fourteen princes is actually Beyonds child and that the whole system is set up to help that child win.

I think that the curse does not target a prince. It targets Beyond himself. He is not setting up weapons. His kids develop nen as they grow up. They die in battle. Send all the energy they've gathered back to him. Beyond then absorbs this energy. That's his ability: not placing curses but consuming them. He is an exorcist who eats curses and his own children serve as the means to deliver it to him.

The conditions write themselves.

He cannot couse their death.

He also cannot raise them or train them.

The more powerful the child is when they die the stronger the curse will be. And the more risky it is to take it in. If he fails to get rid of the curse it does not just mean he wasted his time. It actually Kills him. The more he can get from this ability the more danger he is in.

Now lets talk about Longhis theory. And where it gets really interesting.

I think she is right that one of the princes is Beyonds blood. She is wrong, about what that actually means.

If a prince is Beyonds child. Born to one of Nasubis wives. Then they were not put in the war to become king.They were put there to win the Seed Urn ritual.

The Seed Urn holds the energy of every prince who has died in the Succession Wars throughout Kakins history. This energy is passed down from one generation to the next. Goes into the guardian spirit beasts that protect each new generation. If the prince child of Beyond wins and then dies with the mark on them the curse that comes back does not just carry the energy of one persons life. It carries everything that is attached to the winner, the ritual the entire weight of the Urn and all the sacrifices that royalty has made over the centuries.

All of this will be delivered to Beyond through his family line. The Succession War is not the goal. Beyond needs to become more powerful. The princes were not the targets. His children were not just tools.They are an invesment.

If this idea is true we should already see some signs of it in the manga. We are looking for a prince who can use nen from the time they are born. This would be the obvious sign that they have Beyonds mark.

Benjamin and Camilla are the obvious choices. We know they can use nen. They could do it even before the war started. 

Then there is Woble.If Kurapika found a curse mark on Woble that would explain a lot of things. It would explain why we have never seen Wobles beast (she is in zetsu) and why Oito looked so upset last chapter.

u/Choclon — 2 months ago

The jellyfish in Kurapika's room might be a 15th contestant — and ch. 411 makes this worth revisiting

In chapter 360 something weird happens on Day 1. The guardian spirit beasts take over Room 1014. There are these things that look like jellyfish. People think they might be Wobles beast.

If we believe what Kurapika said, then Chapter 411 just showed that Woble does not actually qualify to be in the Succession Contest.

That makes me wonder whose beast was in that room? Chapter 371 has a picture of 14 coffins in a circle around a room in the middle. People thought that each prince would get one coffin or that 13 coffins would be for the princes and one would be for Nasubi. Both of these ideas made sense.

But if Woble does not qualify, then that would mean there could be a prince who does qualify but we have not seen them in the story since the beginning. The jellyfish beast is their GSB. So could there be a 15th prince?

Who do you think the jellyfish belongs to, would it fit Camilla's beast better?

u/Choclon — 2 months ago

Beyond Netero's Nen Ability — A Theory

Name:The Devouring Rite

User:Beyond Netero

Specialization

Core — Exorcism

Beyond is an exorcist. His primary ability is the consumption of foreign nen curses: he can absorb an incoming curse entirely, dismantling its structure and converting its aura into his own. This is an active process — not passive absorption — and functions as the foundation of his entire hatsu.

Ability

Beyond can implant a nen mark — visible only through Gyo, as an eye-globe beneath the tongue — exclusively into his own biological children, and only immediately after their birth. The mark functions as a dormant curse that passively accumulates the bearer's aura and nen development over their lifetime. Upon the bearer's death by a third party, the curse activates and travels toward Beyond as its designated target. Beyond then performs a deliberate exorcism on the incoming curse, consuming it whole — What exactly is transferred in this process — aura reserves, lifespan, a developed hatsu, or some combination isnup for debate.

Sub-abilities

Mark (setup)

Implants the curse on a newborn biological child of Beyond's own blood. The window to place the mark closes shortly after birth — it cannot be applied later. Requires aura contact only once; the mark self-sustains and accumulates passively with no further input from Beyond.

Accumulation

The mark mirrors the bearer's nen growth over their lifetime. A fully matured nen user with a developed hatsu yields the maximum return: both energy and ability.

Exorcism (harvest)

When a marked bearer dies, the curse fires toward Beyond. He must then exorcise and consume it actively — this is the real ability, and the most dangerous moment. The stronger the bearer was at death, the more powerful the incoming curse, and the more demanding the exorcism.

Hard restriction — bloodline & timing

The mark can only be placed on Beyond's own biological children. Non-blood targets are entirely immune. The mark must be placed immediately after birth — there is no second window. A child Beyond fails to mark at birth cannot be marked later, under any circumstances.

Conditions & restrictions

  • Beyond cannot be the direct or indirect cause of the bearer's death. The death must come entirely from outside. A bearer killed by Beyond dissolves the mark — no harvest triggers.
  • Beyond cannot personally raise or train the bearer.
  • The mark must remain intact until death. Exorcism of the mark by a third party terminates the contract entirely — no partial harvest.
  • Active marks are capped. Beyond manages throughput deliberately — the system has a limit on how many curses can be simultaneously accumulating and awaiting harvest.
  • The bearer must not sustain prolonged contact with Beyond. Proximity destabilizes the mark and may trigger involuntary hostile aura reactions in the bearer.

Vow — the exorcism

·To perform the harvest, Beyond must enter a full Zetsu state and maintain it for the entire duration of the exorcism. He is completely defenseless during this window.

·He must sustain perfect focus throughout. Any disruption — physical, psychological, or from an external nen attack — breaks the exorcism mid-process.

·A failed or interrupted exorcism does not cancel the incoming curse. It rebounds — and kills him. The stronger the bearer was, the more time it takes and the more lethal the rebound.

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u/Choclon — 2 months ago

Longhi is wrong. The princes were never the targets. Beyond's hatsu is curse absorption — and his children are the delivery mechanism.

Chapter 401 gave us what looked like the biggest reveal of the entire Succession War arc.

Longhi, one of Prince Tubeppa's bodyguards, tells Kurapika she is Beyond Netero's biological daughter. One of at least twenty. Beyond fathered children across the Kakin military roughly thirty years ago through sham marriages, sent them all to the Royal Military Academy, and got them placed as personal guards to each of the fourteen princes.

Every single one of them was born with a nen curse: an eye-globe visible under the tongue only through Gyo. According to Longhi, the curse activates upon their death and kills a pre-designated target.

Kurapika and Bill's immediate read is obvious: Beyond has rigged the Succession War. One cursed child per prince, each one a sleeper weapon, allowing him to eliminate rivals and put whoever he wants on the throne from inside his cell.

Longhi shuts this down.

She says she knows her father. A man this cunning, this patient, and this greedy would never go through thirty years of preparation just to play kingmaker for someone who is not his blood.

Her counter-theory is that one of Nasubi's fourteen princes is actually Beyond's own child. The Succession War rules only require the mother to be one of Nasubi's legal wives. The father's lineage is never specified. Beyond's child is already in the contest, and Beyond wants that child to win.

I think they all missed something.

Something that was confirmed by Kurapika's own dowsing chain long before chapter 401 was ever published.

The contradiction that breaks Longhi's theory

Back in chapter 349, Mizaistom sits down with Beyond and offers him a deal: attend the departure ceremony in exchange for revealing his spy inside the Zodiacs.

Beyond's response is very precise. He tells Mizaistom he is wrong about two things: Beyond has no knowledge of a spy, and he does not care about the ceremony. He then says that his true goal lies after the voyage. He will behave in Kakin's interest until they land, but the Dark Continent is where his real objective begins.

Kurapika runs the dowsing chain.

No reaction.

Beyond is telling the truth.

Now sit with that for a moment.

Beyond Netero spent thirty years cursing his own children, planting them one per prince across the entire Kakin royal court, and yet when asked about the voyage itself, he genuinely does not care about it. Not performing indifference. Actually indifferent.

The dowsing chain does not lie, and Kurapika is the best lie detector in the series.

So the question is not whether Beyond is telling the truth.

It is what kind of plan produces this contradiction: thirty years of meticulous preparation inside the Succession War, and zero investment in how the Succession War ends.

The only answer that makes sense is that the Succession War was never the point.

What the marks are actually for

Longhi knows the curse fires on her death and kills a specific target. She assumes the target is a prince, because she is a bodyguard for a prince, and because the whole setup looks like an elaborate assassination grid.

But she openly admits she does not know who her target is.

That assumption is the entire foundation of her theory, and it is never confirmed in the text.

Consider a different reading.

The most talented soldiers rise. The most useful get noticed. The most trusted are selected into the factions of the princes.

The Royal Military Academy does not need to produce nen users for this theory to work. It only needs to produce elite soldiers and place the best of them near power.

By sending his children through that system, Beyond gave them a legitimate path into the Succession War without appearing to move a single piece himself. Once they became royal guards, they were placed directly beside the participants of a ritual death war — the exact kind of environment where nen, loyalty, fear, combat, assassination, and post-mortem conditions could all collide.

The Succession War is not the target.

It is the mechanism.

The princes are not necessarily the victims.

They are the environment.

Beyond's children go into the war. The war exposes them to danger, nen, assassination attempts, political pressure, and death.

Either way, the curse activates when they die.

And whatever the curse is actually pointed at — that is where the real theory begins.

The core idea: Beyond is an exorcist who eats curses

What if Beyond's true hatsu is not placing curses, but consuming them?

What if he is, at his core, the most powerful exorcist in the world, and curse placement is just a sub-ability, the setup for the main event?

The target the curse fires at on each child's death is not a prince.

It is Beyond himself.

He is the target, deliberately.

The curse travels toward him, and instead of taking damage, he consumes it whole — absorbing the nen the child accumulated over their lifetime, and potentially their hatsu along with it.(Nen,lifespan or Ability)

The curse placement ability is not the weapon.

It is the bait.

The real ability is what happens when the bait comes home.

This reframes everything about his setup. He does not need the princes dead in any particular order. He does not need a specific winner. He does not care who sits on Kakin's throne.

What he needs is for his children to develop powerful nen and then die.

And the Succession War is simply the most reliable machine available for exposing soldiers, guards, princes, assassins, and nen users to extreme pressure and violent death.

The conditions — what makes this work within Hunter x Hunter's nen logic

1. He cannot be the direct cause of a marked child's death

If Beyond kills the child himself, the curse does not mature. The death must come from outside.

This is the core constraint that explains thirty years of deliberate distance. Every child is a bet he places and then has to leave entirely alone.

2. He cannot raise the child or personally shape their development

The curse requires genuine distance for the aura accumulation to count as the child's own.

So instead of personally teaching them, he lets Kakin do the work.

The Royal Military Academy turns them into elite soldiers. The military hierarchy filters the best candidates. The princes' factions select the most useful guards. And the Succession War exposes them to the kind of extreme conditions where nen abilities, death curses, and post-mortem aura can reach their highest value.

His hands stay clean, and the children's growth remains their own.

3. The child must become a mature nen user for the full absorption to trigger

A child who dies before developing their hatsu yields only raw aura. Useful, but only a fraction of the prize.

The real payoff is absorbing a fully formed hatsu. Decades of patience are the price of getting an ability instead of just energy.

4. There is a cap on active marks at any given time

This explains why Longhi speculates Beyond timed new marks around each new prince: roughly one per prince across thirty years, not dozens all at once.

The system has a throughput limit, and Beyond manages it deliberately.

5. The mark may turn the bearer against Beyond if they come into contact with him

If this ability sounds too overpowered, then the answer is simple: there are probably more conditions and more risk.

One possibility is that the mark itself creates a dangerous reaction if the bearer gets too close to Beyond. The child may feel coerced, pressured, or instinctively hostile toward him. Not because they consciously understand the ability, but because their nen recognizes the source of the curse.

6. The stronger the child, the more dangerous the absorption becomes

This is the condition that keeps the ability from becoming an automatic win button.

The more powerful the marked child becomes, the stronger the curse becomes when it returns to Beyond.

The stronger the child, the more time, concentration, and risk Beyond needs to consume it safely. If he falters during the process, the curse does not become food.

It kills him.

That makes the whole ability much more balanced. Beyond is not just passively collecting power from a distance. Every successful harvest is a high-risk exorcism performed on a curse that was deliberately aimed at himself.

The payoff is massive, but the risk scales with the reward.

So what about Longhi's theory — Beyond's child among the princes?

I think Longhi may be right that one of the princes is Beyond's blood, but wrong about what that actually means.

If one of Nasubi's children is secretly Beyond's child, then under this theory they would not just be another participant in the Succession War. They would have been carrying Beyond's nen mark from birth.

And if the mark functions like the ones placed on Longhi and the other cursed children, then this prince may have been a nen user from the moment they were born.

That matters, because it narrows the list of likely candidates.

The obvious suspects become Benjamin and Camilla.

Both are already established nen users before the war fully unfolds.

Benjamin's ability is literally built around inheriting the nen of dead subordinates.

Camilla's ability weaponizes her own death through a post-mortem nen counterattack.

If Beyond's true hatsu revolves around curse absorption, post-mortem nen, and harvesting aura through death, then these two princes suddenly look much more suspicious.

Woble is the wild card.

Some theories argue that Woble may be in a state similar to Zetsu, which could explain why Woble's Guardian Spirit Beast has not manifested in the same visible way as the others.

So instead of Beyond's prince-child simply being “the one he wants to become king,” I think the better question is:

Which prince shows signs of having been shaped by nen before the Succession War even began?

Benjamin and Camilla fit that idea directly.

Woble fits it indirectly, if the Zetsu theory is right.

The Seed Urn is the real prize

This is where the prince-child theory becomes much more interesting.

Beyond's child in the Succession War is not necessarily there to become king in the political sense. They are there to win the Seed Urn ritual.

Consider what that ritual actually is: an ancient nen construct powered by the accumulated post-mortem aura of every prince who has ever died in every Succession War in Kakin's history.

Generations of royal nen, stored and recycled into the Guardian Spirit Beasts given to each new generation.

When a prince dies in the war, that energy does not simply vanish. It appears to return to the Urn, feeding the next cycle. The winner keeps their Guardian Spirit Beast. The losers' power goes back into the machine.

But if Beyond's child wins the contest, the ritual may create the perfect final condition.

When that prince eventually dies, the mark does not just send back the aura of one person. It could send back everything attached to the winner: the completed ritual, the inherited weight of the Seed Urn, and the accumulated power of the Succession War itself.

All of it flows back to Beyond.

The oldest and most concentrated nen harvest in Kakin's history, built from centuries of royal sacrifices, delivered directly to him through his own bloodline.

That is why Longhi is only half right.

Beyond may have a child among the princes. But that child is not the endgame.

That child is the final delivery mechanism.

Why this fits Beyond's real goal

Beyond's true goal lies after the voyage.

He said so himself, and Kurapika's dowsing chain confirmed it.

He needs to reach the Dark Continent at peak power. He needs to be able to face, resist, or consume whatever is waiting there — calamities that made even the Chimera Ant Queen look like a warm-up.

The Succession War is not his endgame.

It is his last meal before the real journey begins.

Why this fits Beyond's character

Togashi has written Beyond as a man who operates on timescales most people cannot perceive.

He does not react to events. He sets up conditions decades in advance and lets probability do the rest.

An ability that absorbs cursed nen is perfect for someone like that. It is almost entirely passive once deployed. You place the marks, you wait, and the world does the rest.

You do not even need to be in the room.

And there is a tragic dimension here that feels very Togashi.

Every child Beyond has ever fathered has spent their whole life carrying something they could not remove, pointed at a target they could not identify, in service of a plan they were never told about.

Longhi says she would have been fine being a pawn if he had just explained it.

He never did.

Not necessarily because he is cruel, although he may be.

But because the conditions of his own ability may require that they never know.

That is the theory.

The princes were never the targets.

The Succession War was never the goal.

Beyond planted his children into Kakin's military system so the best of them would naturally end up near the princes, enter the Succession War, and eventually send their accumulated nen back to him through death.

And if one of the princes is also his child, then that prince may not be there to rule Kakin.

They may be there to deliver the Seed Urn itself.

Curious what people think, especially whether the curse-eating angle holds up mechanically, or if there is anything in Togashi’s established rules for exorcism that would rule it out.

I know the theory has some holes and possible contradictions, so I’m not presenting this as a precise prediction. It’s more of a general framework for what Beyond’s plan could be.

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u/Choclon — 2 months ago