r/HatsuVault

Could you tint ren with say love or arousal to seduce a target?

Or indifference to make them ignore you?

I honestly think its possible but such an extremely high level nen technique that only top tiers like netero or ging can use it.

I think thats how netero hides his enormous power from other nen users. Hisoka could feel illumis aura without even looking at him and your telling me he couldnt have sensed neteros.

Also ging has one of the worst personalities to be a team player yet he can get into teams like the original archeologist team he got into or the way his greed island friends still do his work. I also think thats how he got into the dark continent expedition team.

A person you love very dearly is detained, unjustifiably, in a highly fortified facility. What is your course of action?

A)

I’d go immediately. Read the situation in real time, trust my instincts, and overpower obstacles as they appear.

B)

I’d improvise. Maybe disguise myself, create a strange distraction, or exploit an unusual weakness nobody expected.

C)

I’d prepare the exact tools, resources, or conditions necessary so success becomes inevitable once the plan begins.

D)

I’d use people. Persuade guards, build relationships and infiltrate from within.

E)

I’d scout the facility extensively first, testing boundaries, probing defenses, searching for openings or expansion routes.

F)

I’d use whatever methods were necessary — even if it meant abandoning everything else along the way.

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Answer Key

A) Enhancer

B) Transmuter

C) Conjurer

D) Manipulator

E) Emitter

F) Specialist

ADMIN: I'm not sure if you have polls disabled, but.. stop that.

So basically i keep seeing people talk about how they dont think you need manipulation to move aura around, but the more i have seen that the more i feel compelled to disagree. To put it in the most basic context i believe that Gyo and Ko inherantly use enhancement, and that your skill in enhancement develops via your use of these techniques even if you never otherwise train in enhancement. I partially beleive this due to the fact that Ko enhances the offensive/defensive power of any nen user who makes use if it, and there really isnt a better explanation for why pure enhancers can do more damage with it then anyone else.

However if we can assume that the use of nen is in many ways grounded in the practical aspects of the various hatsu types it seems to make a great deal of sense reguarding what we consistantly see characters do. Now i can probably get into each nen use from basic to advanced and point out which hatsu seem to affect which aspects, but im pretty sure nobody woyld read that if I did. Instead i want to make a few simple points on the matter, in the hopes of changing peoples minds.

-It is likely shaping/directing aura in simpler ways takes far less specialized training and likely less overall skill to actually achieve. To put it another way it is like the differance between knife throwing and tossing a paper ball in the trashcan, one takes a great deal of practice and training and the other is something that most people can do if somewhat inconsistantly.

-It is likely that in order to form a shape with your aura you require manipulation or conjuration, in the case of manipulation i am implying that forming and potentially holding a shape without that shape being real is what requires manipulation. We see Bisky shaping her aura into numbers when she first trains Gon and Killua, and while im willing to accept that she transmuted her aura into something rigid rnough to hold it's shape that doesnt explain how that shape is formed. Transmuters can force their aura to simulate and alter the nature of real life properties, forces, and substances, there is no substances which naturally want to form into the shape of a number to my knowledge. The only way that makes sense is if she first forms the shape of the aura then transmutes it to hold the shape (same thing with Gon's Janken-scissors btw).

-With reguards to the last point i would like to point out that Bisky likely has around 40% affinity with manipulation, and if the previous point is correct, she only uses it in extremely basic ways overall. While she likely does use some form of manipulation for her hatsu Cookie, its likely that Cookie only works via utilizing preexisting knowledge on related subjects. In other words she is programmed like a machine so she likely cannot be used on nonhumans or really any creature Bisky doesnt have knowledge of reguarding their biology. Much like a CNC machine she cant perform actions she isnt programmed for, but she will absolutely do an amazing job at what she is programmed for. This would also explain why killua jumps over his opponents when he uses his thunderbolt, he not only extends his aura to his target via manipulation he also uses the properties of electricity to do some of the the heavy lifting.

-The last major thing i want to put here is a comparison to Shoot (who i want to beleive is a manipulator or emitter but i really cant find any direct info on that at this point) and what Bisky and Killua can do. Firstly i want to point out that Shoot's bird cage and seperate hands arent specifically anchored to a relative point outside of maybe his body itself. Instead there may or may not be a set limited range, but reguardless he can manipulate the relative position of all three hands and the bird cage in space in real time. Not only is the level of manipulation more complicated then what bisky or killua ever do, he actively can also manipulate multiple objects effectively without their flight paths interrupting eachother. I think the difference in affinity and lack of deicated training in that area can more then account for the limited abilities of nen users who are further from manipulation.

-Small note here about nen beasts with their own personality(this is slightly irrelevent), Kite's crazy slots didnt use much manipulation since he had low affinity with it (probably around 50% affinity if togashi's chart is to be believed). I beleive that his low affinity with manipulation is what results in the clown's "annoying" personality, Kite literally has no control over when it speaks or what it will say even finding his helpful commentary to be annoying and wishing it would shut up. I think that low affinity with manipulation may actually be a condition for autonomously thinking or acting nen beasts.

Bonus brownie points if you can make an enhancer pull this off. (RIP Kastro, sometimes we can still hear his voice)

If it's from a Transmuter, you don't have to make a thematically functional aura quality that depicts rage or rage baiting; feel free to create whatever comes to mind.

It's been a while since I last posted in this sub, so this is more of a I'm still lurking in this sub from time to time kind of post.

for example: im a master swordsman who's excellent at a specific style of swordsmanship. i use my conjuration to make a sword that can only do damage if i use the specific fighting style that im excellent at. thus giving myself a restriction that doesnt hold me back in the least. is that kind of restriction inefficient compared to other normal restriction that can affect you? like if i did the opposite and restricted my conjured sword to doing damage when im NOT using my favored fighting style , does the fact that im putting myself at a big disadvantage with not using my preffered swordstyle give me a greater hatsu-buff than normal?

So it’s a common belief that all emitters use emitted nen beast. Many fans believe that emitters separate a piece of aura, use transmutation to shape it and then give it instructions with manipulation.

But transmutation constantly drains your aura, and while conjuration may be inefficient for emitters once they’ve conjured it they lose the burden of supplying it with aura. It can function like a “battery” and disappear after a certain time as demonstrated by Hinrigh.

I have trouble finalizing the hatsu build for my OC. I already have a general idea of what it would be, it's just that tying everything up thematically is quite difficult.

And I wonder, if I provide a character summary and my OC's natural nen affinity, would we arrive at similar nen abilities.

So I challenge you to create a hatsu build using this backstory:

Name: Minamoto Springz

Affinity: Emission-Enhancement

Character Summary:

Minamoto grew up in a developing country blessed with picturesque landscapes and natural wonders. Wherever he goes, he notices the same truth repeating itself: water, in all its forms, is the quintessence of nature and life. It shapes the background and foreground of every scenery, giving it punch and depth; provides movement to stillness and connects different elements with each other, giving them all-encompassing vitality; enriches beauty with sight's, sounds, smells, tastes and touch,, making experiences memorable. From vast oceans to quiet creeks; from mist and dew to hail, snow, and rain; from the skies above to the hidden rivers beneath the earth—even the currents beneath the ocean itself—water was everywhere. Cold springs, hot springs, wine born from fertile soil and flowing rivers… to Minamoto, water was the source of life, beauty, and flavor itself.

As a practitioner of Nen and martial arts, he developed a profound fascination with it. Water felt mystical—adaptable yet relentless, gentle yet capable of carving mountains apart. Drawn by that affinity, he decided to base his Nen around water and its countless properties.

And like every martial arts lunatic chasing enlightenment, he chose to train in the one place where water was most scarce: the desert.

Armed with nothing but two spatially-expanded jugs—one filled with water, the other with wine—he set out alone.

At first, his training consisted of meditation. Beneath the merciless desert sun, he sat still for hours, trying to sense the faint traces of water molecules suspended in the dry air. Later came real combat. To survive, he hunted dangerous desert beasts, forcing himself to fight efficiently while preserving stamina and supplies. At night, he searched for shelter against the desert’s biting cold, maintaining Ten without rest until dawn.

Then, after a sudden epiphany, he did something completely insane.

He emptied his jug of clean water onto the sand.

Only the wine was spared—for “special occasions.”

From that point onward, survival depended entirely on his Nen. By extending his En, he learned to sense microscopic traces of moisture in the atmosphere. He enhanced those particles, increasing their volume, then manipulated them drop by drop until they gathered in his cupped hands, finally able to quench his thirst. At first, the process was clumsy and wasteful. But desperation is a ruthless teacher. Through repeated crises, his efficiency in Emission, Enhancement, and Manipulation evolved at an explosive pace.

He devoted himself religiously to the training. Day after day, he shed not only water, but sweat, blood, and tears.

One freezing night, after hours of meditation and mental reverie, Minamoto opened his eyes to find ice forming from the water he had suspended in the air with his aura.

He was stunned.

For months afterward, he tried to reproduce the phenomenon deliberately. Every night, he submerged his hands into buckets of water, studying the sensation of cold and attempting to understand the process. Yet no matter what he did, he could not recreate it intentionally.

Eventually, he journeyed to the Polar Zones, a deadly region named after a ferocious species of bear, hoping to push his Nen even further. There, he discovered the answer: water froze not because of “cold,” but because of the absence of heat and movement.

Still, he faced a strange limitation.

He could transmute water into mist effortlessly. He could sharpen it into slicing threads or polish its surface until it reflected like a perfect mirror. Yet turning it into ice remained impossible. It was as though his mind itself rejected the concept.

So, in another act of madness, Minamoto reached a terrifying conclusion:

If ice was born from the absence of heat… then perhaps it was akin to Zetsu—the absence of aura.

With no Nen protecting his body, he meditated in the hellish cold.

And then, enlightenment came.

Or perhaps possession.

At last, he succeeded.

He could finally turn water into ice.

But only while in a state of Zetsu.

The realization crushed him. A technique unusable in combat was nearly worthless to a fighter.

Desperate and teetering on the edge of insanity, Minamoto traveled to the coldest place on Earth. There, he carved a hole into the frozen wasteland and submerged his right arm into a mysterious “liquid that never freezes.” While maintaining Zetsu, he offered a final prayer to the Nen gods:

“I don’t care anymore. Just do something.”

Something answered.

When he emerged, his right hand had become black as the deepest abyss, radiating an otherworldly cold and an ominous presence that no longer felt human.

It was both a blessing and a curse.

The blessing: he could now freeze not only water, but even aura itself.

The curse: he had traded away a piece of his humanity. Whenever he entered Zetsu, the frozen corruption spread further across his body, slowly consuming him. Someday, he knew, nothing human would remain.

But Minamoto cared less than he probably should have.

After all, he still have his wine beside him... which he could perfectly chill to his liking.

And with that alone, he felt as though he could take on the entire world.

Hobby

Minamoto loves sampling wine from every country he visits, treating each bottle as a taste of that land’s history and soul. During training journeys, he creates his own wines by fermenting the flesh of magical beasts he defeats together with exotic plants he forages—especially poisonous or dangerous ones. Using purified water and careful Nen control, he transforms lethal ingredients into bizarre, often powerful wines with flavors no ordinary brewer could ever replicate.

I get that some abilities are near impossible to execute without conditions but abilities like creating fire arrows require ZERO conditions unless you want them to be super strong.

Why is it so uncommon on this subreddit for simple low aura cost abilities you get nerfed by their users? It’s like giving bungee gum a stretch limit of 4 feet, it just makes the ability worse.