u/Correct_Durian1503

Trying to price out sanctuary stage lighting: Are wash moving heads worth it over more static cans when volunteers run the booth?

We run two services on Sunday with a tech team that is all volunteers, and the booth rotates through about six people. Nobody on that list had touched stage lighting before this year. Me included, really.

Right now the platform has eight static LED pars on a bar plus two ancient fresnels. It's flat. Fine for preaching, useless for anything the worship team wants to do.

We have money approved for one lighting purchase and that's it for a good while, so I want to price this honestly before it goes to the committee.

What I keep coming back to is four wash moving heads. The ones on my shortlist (a Betopper LM3715R, a Chauvet unit, one ADJ) sit somewhere around $300 to $500 each, so with a controller the whole thing lands between $1400 and $2200 depending on which way I go. Shot of the platform and roughly where they'd hang is attached.

What I can't work out is whether that money buys anything we'd actually use.

Nobody in that booth is going to write cues. Realistically we need four or five looks and a volunteer who can hit the right button on a Sunday when the sermon runs long.

And who fixes a wash moving head when it stops moving. A par we can swap in ten minutes.

So for anyone at 200 to 250 seats. Is there a better way to spend this than four wash moving heads, and if you've already been through it, what did you actually end up putting over the platform? Pictures of your setup would help more than anything else, I'm having a hard time picturing what four of these look like in a room this size.

Thanks

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u/Correct_Durian1503 — 14 days ago

New mobile DJ here, finally swapped my LED bar for actual moving heads. gig log so fa

Bear with me, this is my first "real upgrade" post. Part-time wedding DJ for about 2 years, mostly Saturday weddings + the occasional school dance. My lighting setup has lived its entire life as "plug in the GigBar, hit auto, and pray nobody asks me about it." Worked fine for a while.

What killed it: a March wedding where the photographer pulled me aside to ask if I could "dim those bars during dinner" because half the guests were squinting. The GigBar can dim from the panel and remote, but it hits the whole room or nothing, I had no way to drop just the dance floor and leave the head table where it was. I went home that night and ordered 4 cheaper moving heads.

Six gigs in, here's the honest report from someone who very much did not know what they were doing on day one:

  • Moving heads in auto mode look 1000x better than a GigBar in auto mode for one reason. They actually point places. A bar shoots forward whether you like it or not. Movers can paint the dance floor and leave the dinner tables alone.
  • DMX is way less scary than the YouTube tutorials make it sound. I picked up free DMX software (there are a bunch of options depending on what your friends already use, QLC+ if you want fully free, MA OnPC if you eventually want to learn console workflow, Wolfmix or SoundSwitch if you want something more mobile-DJ friendly), grabbed a $70 USB dongle, and had 4 cues built in an evening. Ceremony wash. Dinner warm. Dance floor chase 1. Dance floor chase 2. That is genuinely all I needed.
  • Auto mode dim curve is jumpy. DMX dim curve is smooth. Same fixture, two different worlds. First dance basically forced me to learn DMX.
  • Fan noise at 6ft is fine for receptions. At 3ft during a quiet ceremony I can hear it, so I just keep them off until the recessional.
  • Packing 4 movers in a hatchback is not as bad as I worried. Two padded totes, two in each, fits next to the speaker totes.

Things I'm still bad at: focus on the day, color picking that does not look like a strip mall, programming chases that move with the BPM. Open to roasting on any of this.

What do you wish you'd known when you went from LED bar to your first proper movers? Trying to skip the obvious mistakes if I can.

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u/Correct_Durian1503 — 3 months ago

Two productions in, none of these movers have died yet

We run a 320-seat black box at a community college and the lighting budget is whatever the dean didn't spend on the pep band. Department head told me last August "find me 4 movers, $1k total" which is roughly half what one entry-level branded mover costs.

Ended up with 4 small movers off a brand I'd never heard of, ~$200 each direct. I went in expecting to babysit them through tech week.

Here's what actually happened: A Doll's House (3 weeks of tech + 8 shows) and a student-directed Tartuffe revival (5 shows after 2 weeks of tech). About 30 hours of pure show time per fixture, plus another ~70 hours of tech week and student programming abuse stacked on top.

Zero dead units and no RMA tickets so far. Two full productions in, all four are still on the rig.

Things I'd flag for anyone going down this road:

  • Fans are inaudible from the audience in our 320-seat house. Only audible if you walk under a hang within roughly 1m. For dialogue-heavy work in a smaller space, just don't hang directly over the front rows.
  • DMX channel layout is goofy if you've spent your career on Mac Auras. Took my student programmers one rehearsal to relearn it. RDM works fine, patches without drama once you've sorted the channel map.

Anyone else running cheap movers through a real season? Curious what dies first. Fan or pan motor.

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u/Correct_Durian1503 — 3 months ago