u/Cr7_GOAT88

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Heres my list:

1. Manchester United: By far the most succesful club domestically with 20 premier league wins and also has 3 UCLs

2. Liverpool: Most succesful English club in Europe but weak domestically and only has 2 titles

3. Arsenal: Will win the Prem this year and probably the UCL aswell

4. Chelsea: 2UCLs and a few Prem wins a pretty succesful club in the modern era

5. Manchester City: A lot of bought success recently, has a UCL

Think about it in the Arab Champions League 2 it is all the best team in the whole of Asia playing against you and Ronaldo had to once again carry hes team to even get there while Messi is playing with the most valuable team in the MLS and can barely even win a farmers league like that and in the MLS you only play against teams from the US which has not good teams. Ronaldo deserved the win today but sadly hes team wasnt up to the task so he didnt win but it was close but Al Nassr probably need to make some changes to their team next season so they can better compete in these tournaments

Referees make a lot of mistakes and often those mistakes go against certain teams and in favor of other teams regularly but if there was VAR since the 2000s then for example Barcelona would not have won more than 1 UCL and Chelasea would win in 2009 since Barca would have gotten red cards and this would be much better for football in general because in modern football the referees still make mistakes that favor certain clubs so now there is an objective check where you cant cheat because they see everything. A lot of results could be avoided and football history would change for the better and the correct clubs like Manchester United Chelsea and Real Madrid would have won more UCL but Barcelona eould lose some so of course many Barca fans dont want to lose there UCL but they didnt deserve to win them so it would be good if they take those away now that we know what happened.

The only thing that Messi fans still have over Ronaldo is the World Cup they act like the debate ended when Messi got his but once Ronaldo wins it and scores 1000 goals he will be the undisputed GOAT:

Most goals in football history, World Cup and EURO, 5 Ballon d'Ors, 4 Golden shoes, dominated 4 leagues, most Champions League goals, most penalty goals, most international goals, the best freekick taker of all time, scored from 40 yards regularily, most goals in a single UCL campaign, forced entire teams to change their playstyle just because of him, when he wins the WC he will have the best trophy cabinet in football history. No other player can match what he has done in football. The GOAT🐐🇵🇹

I've seen a lot of Aston Villa and Crystal Palace fans claiming their Europea League and Conference League finals as some sort of "great achievement", but it really isn't. Winning the Premier League or Champions League is a great achievement, this is just another 2nd tier trophy where none of the top clubs even compete in. Also why do Aston Villa fans care so much about Eropa League when they already won a Champions League? Shouldn't that be where the bar is set, settling for anything less is just loser behaviour

And then Crystal Palace and their Conference League final... brother you guys are 15th in the Premier League, maybe focus on that instead of a 3rd tier European trophy with random village clubs whos yearly budget is the same as one of your players salaries💀

Let's be real here: These competitions only exist so that bad teams and their fanbases can feel important and it gives them a chance to win atleast something, but it isn't really an achievement, it's just charity from UEFA.