u/CunningAdversary

(EDIT:Seems like my original post violated rules or something Im not sure if it posted, sorry if this shows up as a repost)

I’m someone who managed to get off a severe (1000mg per day for a year) 7oh habit with mit tabs.

When I first jumped off the 7oh I was taking 80mg mit 3x a day.

I kept going until the remaining 7 WD left, and now after a month or so I am fully stable while taking 160-220 mg mit 3x a day.

I’m looking for support here but I have no clear sense of how my current use compares to the leaf gpd everyone is talking about.

I’m in a state that recently banned all kratom products so the only vendor I can reliably order from only sells these extract tabs.

I have to say, even when I occasionally take a larger dose of mit I hardly feel it, and if I do it only lasts about 15 minutes, probably residue from the 7oh habit and overall wreckage of my opiate receptors.

In short, I have only been taking mit about 45 days, I am disoriented about how my habit stacks up to other people in terms of dose, I want to get off it asap but I fought so hard through the 7oh WD I’m not ready to go through that again in terms of work schedule and end of school year right now.

Does anyone else have any experience with quitting just MIT?

I’m someone who managed to get off a severe (1000mg per day for a year) 7oh habit with mit tabs

When I first jumped off the 7oh I was taking 80mg mit 3x a day

I kept going until the remaining 7 WD left, and now after a month or so I am fully stable while taking 160-220 mg mit 3x a day

I’m looking for support here but I have no clear sense of how my current use compares to the leaf gpd everyone is talking about

I’m in a state that recently banned all kratom products so the only vendor I can reliably order from only sells these extract tabs

I have to say, even when I occasionally take a larger dose of mit I hardly feel it, and if I do it only lasts about 15 minutes, probably residue from the 7oh habit and overall wreckage of my opiate receptors

In short, I have only been taking mit about 45 days, I am disoriented about how my habit stacks up to other people in terms of dose, I want to get off it asap but I fought so hard through the 7oh WD I’m not ready to go through that again in terms of work schedule and end of school year right now

Does anyone else have any experience with just MIT?

(Reposting my reply from another thread)

I’m at 27 days and I wake up in the morning pinching myself because I can’t believe I did it

I’m still taking occasional leaf throughout the day and can’t tell if if has any effect, it has zero rewarding effect for me and doesn’t seem to reduce lingering feelings of weirdness, those pass on their own

I was blessed to get extraordinarily sick with viruses twice during my quit/acutes, and it forced me into surrender mode

I’m so much stronger than I realized

all you really have to do is shuffle around and stay alive when everything feels impossible

The biggest insight I’ve gained is that the early psychological effects after acutes are actually in many instances the return of normal emotional range and environmental sensitivities; NOT “PAWS”. Being on a powerful drug all day every day for a long time means not only do you atrophy your emotional resilience muscles, your life is also in far more disarray and dysfunction than you realize (until you quit)

Everyone here has all the info they need for supplements and comfort meds, I myself used SR also( which seemed helpful at the time but in hindsight does add an extra X factor to the equation, since nobody really knows what the heck it is doing exactly in the brain and body and it’s very easy to loose track of what’s happening when you aren’t feeling the full effects of coming off 7 each step of the way. I think SR will be much more useful once it is more established, for now it’s kind of most useful for getting started on a quit for those dreading the initial jump)

Every quit is different, even if it’s same person, same drug. It’s a journey of self discovery and that journey does truly get harder with age, partly because of biology but also because the older you are, the more important systems and structures there are that rely on your stability. You have to make decisions based not just on what’s best for you, but also consider that jumping into full on acutes can be massively destabilizing to jobs and families and other people who need us. So it’s harder to muster the courage and the will to see it through because you know you can just take a little DOC and things can just “go back to normal”.

The other thing that’s clicked for me is that while still suffering through it, it feels tempting to try and figure out exactly what is causing discomfort. Is this withdrawal? Is this illness? Is this my baseline self? Is this a side effect of comfort meds? Is this withdrawal from comfort meds? You can go online and try to find answers to this but the reality is simple: when you are on a powerful daily psychoactive for a long period of time, your brain is adapted in ways that will not work well without that drug. And it’s going to take a month to get any clarity on what caused what. It’s very easy to try and science yourself to early wellness but forget it, there’s no way to use an injured brain to assess and treat an injured brain effectively. Just embrace the suck, accept the mystery.

Even a week ago, I couldn’t have typed all this. I was posting in this sub and others wondering if SR had removed my ability to feel joy or present with loved ones. Less than a week later I’m listening to Beatles songs like they are new to me (they are not) and catching myself staring in wonder at the morning light reflecting off the cats fur. Later today, I will have moments filled with doubt and fear and discomfort, but I’ve now fully remembering that those moments are temporary and not worth obsessing internally over as if it’s a question in desperate need of an answer. You don’t have to answer every speck of pain. You can let it be.

(Reposting my reply from another thread)

I’m at 27 days and I wake up in the morning pinching myself because I can’t believe I did it

I’m still taking occasional leaf throughout the day and can’t tell if if has any effect, it has zero rewarding effect for me and doesn’t seem to reduce lingering feelings of weirdness, those pass on their own

I was blessed to get extraordinarily sick with viruses twice during my quit/acutes, and it forced me into surrender mode

I’m so much stronger than I realized

all you really have to do is shuffle around and stay alive when everything feels impossible

The biggest insight I’ve gained is that the early psychological effects after acutes are actually in many instances the return of normal emotional range and environmental sensitivities; NOT “PAWS”. Being on a powerful drug all day every day for a long time means not only do you atrophy your emotional resilience muscles, your life is also in far more disarray and dysfunction than you realize (until you quit)

Everyone here has all the info they need for supplements and comfort meds, I myself used SR also( which seemed helpful at the time but in hindsight does add an extra X factor to the equation, since nobody really knows what the heck it is doing exactly in the brain and body and it’s very easy to loose track of what’s happening when you aren’t feeling the full effects of coming off 7 each step of the way. I think SR will be much more useful once it is more established, for now it’s kind of most useful for getting started on a quit for those dreading the initial jump)

Every quit is different, even if it’s same person, same drug. It’s a journey of self discovery and that journey does truly get harder with age, partly because of biology but also because the older you are, the more important systems and structures there are that rely on your stability. You have to make decisions based not just on what’s best for you, but also consider that jumping into full on acutes can be massively destabilizing to jobs and families and other people who need us. So it’s harder to muster the courage and the will to see it through because you know you can just take a little DOC and things can just “go back to normal”.

The other thing that’s clicked for me is that while still suffering through it, it feels tempting to try and figure out exactly what is causing discomfort. Is this withdrawal? Is this illness? Is this my baseline self? Is this a side effect of comfort meds? Is this withdrawal from comfort meds? You can go online and try to find answers to this but the reality is simple: when you are on a powerful daily psychoactive for a long period of time, your brain is adapted in ways that will not work well without that drug. And it’s going to take a month to get any clarity on what caused what. It’s very easy to try and science yourself to early wellness but forget it, there’s no way to use an injured brain to assess and treat an injured brain effectively. Just embrace the suck, accept the mystery.

Even a week ago, I couldn’t have typed all this. I was posting in this sub and others wondering if SR had removed my ability to feel joy or present with loved ones. Less than a week later I’m listening to Beatles songs like they are new to me (they are not) and catching myself staring in wonder at the morning light reflecting off the cats fur. Later today, I will have moments filled with doubt and fear and discomfort, but I’ve now fully remembering that those moments are temporary and not worth obsessing internally over as if it’s a question in desperate need of an answer. You don’t have to answer every speck of pain. You can let it be.