Dawg when I say this shit was tearing my pockets and ruining my life… I was so oblivious to what I was taking. A lot of us were given free trials of this shit and had no idea what we were taking. FUCK ANYONE selling this shit.

If you don’t see how this shit is a scam to funnel people into rehabs and put them on suboxone… well you heard it here.
Btw I’m not shitting on anyone for getting on subs but if you are ADDICTED to opioids, what makes you think using another opioid would take the ADDICTION away?
I’ve read that people with insurance are better off getting the subotex shot. From what I’ve gathered… that is the most effective way of getting off this shit (escaping a short horror withdraw) everyone is different. Do your own fucking research there’s people everywhere with agendas praying on you hoping to catch you at your most vulnerable to keep this nightmare going.

If it sounds too good to be true IT IS

I got to a point I literally was just sweating 24/7 constantly withdrawing and couldn’t keep up. Didn’t even know what the fuck a withdraw was. Only then and then did I realize I had to fucking stop… it was crazy because how the fuck did I go from 5mg to 3000mg a day??

I started tapering out of desperation didn’t know about this Reddit or anything about a fucking taper. I just knew I was fucking done, but I had to keep getting more to keep it going.
Now everyone is different and when I started my taper it was a very slow cope for about 2 months because I truly battled with myself about quitting… but I got down to about 150-200mg a day…

Dawg I booked a cruise for October and if you think I’m gonna be tweaking on a fucking boat in the middle of the ocean 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I called out of work told my job I have Covid and they can suck my dick. I know some people have more important jobs.
But you have got to make a fucking stand. Find a fucking way. If you got a good job they should have HR you can confidentially file for some sort of leave. And you probably have insurance.

Make up a fucking reason. Make up the most absurd shit you can think of.
what the fuck are they gonna do? Wait for you to get back and call you liar? While you were getting your life back??
FUCK THEM

And if your job is shit like mine. They fucking need YOU! And if you don’t have insurance, just say you have Covid or say there’s a fucking salmonella outbreak… And I know if you were working while using, you’re a fucking BEAST!

Theres nothing you haven’t done when you tried

I know there’s someone reading this withdrawing looking for a reason to keep going and I’m here to tell you, you got 4 fucking days of some terrible body aches, no sleep, and restless legs

“Oh no I’d rather keep using than have rls” are you shitting me?

It took me 4 fucking days. I was scrambling this Reddit for information to help my withdraw … what helped me was just taking a hot fuckin bath anytime I couldn’t bare to lay in pain anymore. I literally would get up, walk downstairs, hop in the tub and it would soothe me so much (even if it was 2 minutes)… crazy how i thought of myself as being reborn again and being in the water of the tub was like being in a womb.

Dawg im not a bath guy but i promise that shit felt so good.

Tomorrow marks a week for me and I can honestly say that was the smoothest 4 day hell I could have ever went through to get my life back 🤣✌️ can’t believe I was running from this weak ass withdraw (nah shit was hard but I just wanted my life back more. Using is not a fucking option)

First night I started smoking weed to get me through it and I ain’t smoked weed in years but it helped me relax a little at least. I laid in bed and put some headphones on and listened to
Watching Movies With Sound Off. LONG LIVE MAC MILLER

Couple other things that helped me personally (do your own research on what your putting in your body)

-Magnesium Complex by cymbotica brand (my girl had it)
-protein shake with vitamins
-vitamin D3

I did also take vitamin C but I seemed to find mixed reports on what it does so I didn’t use a lot (everybody’s different DO YOUR RESEARCH)

Words of affirmation
Don’t listen to these people that are fearmongering you from getting a better life. It doesn’t take THAT FUCKING LONG
365 days in a year LOCK THE FUCK IN FOR 7 DAYS AND TAKE YOUR LIFE BACK
I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT ANYONE SAYS YOU ARE WORTH IT. This is just the beginning of the greatest fucking underdog movie you’ve ever seen… and you’re the main character

If you’re scared you won’t be the same again… there are literal studies of how the neuroplasticity in your brain will FOREVER be changing.
Old science tells us “oh you’re an adult now you stop evolving now” FALSE ❌❌❌❌❌❌❌
You will ALWAYS be able to recover and get better.

The guy that sold me this bullshit everyday wanted me to get on cats claw so bad and I told em he can SUCK MY DICK
Because I’m quitting.
Bro said “oh no you’re gonna be tweaking man if you don’t take this cats claw to get off 7oh you’ll never be the same”

Dawg I laughed in his fucking face 🤣🤣🤣✌️✌️✌️✌️✌️
5 days later and I’m HAPPY AS FUCK! Imma go up there tomorrow (pending if wifey gives me keys back🤞) and let his dumb ass know I quit this shit no sweat…

You got this. It’s the furthest from impossible. You are worth it

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I have decided to make the jump and get off this devilish shit. But I need help. I take prolly like 100 to 150 mg daily(7stax sadly. Stupid, ik) but im at the end of my rope with this shit. Ive been taking it for prolly 1.5 years now. So today I got 2 5 packs of 7stax and a 500 mg pack of SR. How do I successfully taper with just the 500mg of SR? I know there are people way wiser than me in this group and I just really could use any advice. Worse come to worse I can buy another pack of Sr I will do literally anything to just not be a slave to this shit anymore. Im 24 years young with a 3 yr old kid so I definitely have to keep working. Any advice is welcome and wanted pleaseeeeee. I'm am idiot for ever touching this stuff. ( I'm so happy I found this group I was relying on Facebook b4 and they suck in those groups)

I am only here because your
Community has educated me. I know I sound like an idiot or unqualified but I am an addict in general and k can see the road

Irecently went through a very traumatic event and was at the lowest point in my life.

18 days ago I picked up MIT tablets. 5 of them. 50 mg.

12 days ago I picked up 7OH 15mg x 5 .

Yesterday I bought another 5 tablets. Did 1 yesterday and 1 today.

What should I expect withdrawal wise. If at all? How long until some dependency develops?

I know I am somewhat unqualified to be here but any kind souls who know the hell ahead for an addict getting into this- any information at all would be helpful

I’ve posted in the past. I’ve been going back and forth with 7 since last year. Got clean for the first time last summer and I wish every single fucking day it stayed that way. Living this way is no way to live. I’ve relapsed a bunch of times, but I’ve steadily been using since the beginning of this year…exactly what I didn’t wanna do. I’ve tried so many times over the last few months but I cannot get myself out of my own head. Selfishly, I was banking on them being off the shelves by now so the choice was taken from me like a child but it’s not. It’s hour six or seven and the anxiety is always the first thing to pop up and not regular anxiety it’s indescribable anxiety where it feels like life or death if you don’t get 7oh…what the hell is in this stuff to make it as addicting as it is? I’m at the end of my rope. I tried S R twice and managed to screw those attempts up. I have had subs here for months and months but in the back of my mind I’m not ready. We are never really ready are we? How did you guys get past this hump? It’s insane bc I’ve done it many times but this time is different and I don’t know why. I feel mentally messed up from this stuff. Very depressed, very discouraged. I have a family, I have kids, why can’t I put them above this? What makes this harder is no one knows I relapsed. Doing this alone I know isn’t a good idea but I am TERRIFIED to tell my spouse or my family. The amount of lies will unravel with borrowing money for this or that meanwhile it’s always for god damn 7oh. I’m rambling, I just need some encouragement. I don’t know how to get myself to last long enough to induce subs. I’m scared to give S R another shot. What do you guys think? This community has always been so helpful and solid. I’d be lost without it!

I made another post yesterday. For starters I only used 7OH a total of 13 days. 60-120mg. I would only dose in the middle of the night. I decided to stop last Sunday at 10 days. Made the foolish mistake of ‘going out with a bang’ at 120mg. Couldn’t handle the RLS and I can’t take time off work so I did a short taper and I took my last 10mg pill last night. Ever since Monday I’ve been in withdrawal, not sleeping, and bad RLS, from the aggressive taper, I presume. However now I wish I would’ve just jumped off instead. Anyway, I jumped off now. I also have a leaf habit, I take 10g of leaf daily, 5g when I wake up, and 5g when I go to bed. As soon as it reaches 8pm these last few days, the withdrawal starts killing me. And I know the worst of it is probably still coming because I didn’t actually quit all together until 20 hours ago. But I’m not going back.

My question to you guys is if you think it would be okay to increase my leaf use by 50% for probably just the next 4 days to deal with WD. The leaf completely eliminates my WD and helps me sleep a little bit. Although relief is only about 2-3 hours, it’s of significant help since I still have to work. Anyway, if anyone’s reading this, let me know your thoughts. I’ve been nothing but reading this sub lately and I need to get off this too. I’ve ordered liposomal vitamin c and that comes in tomorrow. If the vitamin c makes it a lot easier, hopefully I won’t have to increase my leaf dose! Much love everyone.

Edit: will vitamin c even work if I’ve already jumped?

Ive checked out, i cant forced users to read warnings and guides. Im passing it on to you to warn others.

7OH wd is intense but short, suboxone withdrawal due to improper rapid doses OR long term use is a much longer withdrawal and soul suckingly bad. If you a prone to depression and alike you need to be very careful. Just read /r/suboxone

It doesnt have to be if you use it correctly

Some cannot do it right due to their mental addiction OCD dosing needs so they need the shot, but the shot and high doses are not designed for 7OH abuse issues.

Youre life your choice, but so many would not take the stupid dosing amounts if they were educated about how they WILL pay the piper for letting your body get use to subs or high dosing rapid detoxing (youre just delaying worse wd with high dose rapid 8 12 16 24 32)

This is my final post on this topic. Some just have to learn the hardway.

Youre most likely not anywhere near the need for subs that an IV / fent / street dope user has.

Ive been wrong about the sub ceiling dose, but you never want to go over 2mg after day 2 IMO and many others. 0.5 MG can help you get by day 3 and easily feel good on 0.25mg

Bupe is a POWERFUL opioid. Its extremely potent and builds up in you due to very long halflife.

• 0.25 use to get me high if i was only using leaf, like nose itching high * you gotta respect the power of this drug or itll own you.

THIS IS MY OPINION through my own life and through others ive been close to (A LOT), I am not god, i am not a doctor, i am an addiction counselor for work. We all have different needs, addiction is never one size fits all.

See like, I thought giving it a shot before it got scheduled wouldn’t be too bad, man was I wrong. I took 7 everyday for about one week, my addictive personality of course kicked in, along with a little bit of no self control, so I was taking hundreds of mg’s per day (supposedly) I’m sure the brand I had was underdosed but still. It’s been around 4 days since my last dose and even tho I only took this god awful substance for a week these WD’s are rough dude.. I am so uncomfortable 24/7, waking up sweating, horrible body temp control, and just overall depression. Is this normal😭 I just feel so shitty, definitely not what I was expecting but that’s what I get huh

Quit 6 days ago, was doing prob about 1000 mg a day and quit cold turkey. Caved on the night of day 3, did 60 mg and instantly realized how stupid it was and felt nothing from it.

But now here on day 6, and I feel like I’m losing control. The restlessness, aches, and inability to regulate my body temperature is almost as intolerable as 24 hours in. It’s really making me want to cave I don’t even mentally want to like it’s different than the other times I’ve relapsed I’m just exhausted from the agony. Plowed through the gabapentin, chewed through a months supply of Ativan in the first 3 days, I’ve already taken an unhealthy amount of Tylenol, ate all my Kratom, even if I could get a refill on anything I don’t think I could convince myself to drive. Just took some chlonidine I hope that helps. I feel like an idiot for not saving any gabapentin or Ativan for now. I really thought I’d only be facing mental issues right now.

Will it be over soon? I wonder if it’s because I caved. I wonder if it’s because of taking SR. I didn’t even take the SR more than 2x a day for a few days bc I just gave up since it felt like it was barely doing anything. I know I have some nasty ass shit somewhere that I don’t even believe really has 7-oh in it but I’m almost desperate enough for relief that I’m about to find it and take it. But then I’m scared relapsing is why I feel this way on day 6. I just can’t believe a 60mg relapse would cause this much agony? I don’t have a bathtub to take a nice bath. My shower head is stupid and I can’t even lay under the hot water without holding the handle and I regretted it the other day from how sore my arms were from holding it. Please tell me any minute now this suffering will end. I don’t know if I can last much longer. It’s been all day. I can’t take it.

Hey all - still in the first week of this. Quit with a bumpy taper from 1000mg/day to about 50 or 100mg per day for 2 weeks, then I dose of 50mg, now nothing. Have help meds (gaba, trazadone, hydroxazine).

Nothing is bringing me the littlest bit of happiness and it’s making life very difficult right now in a way I did not understand was possible.

I am gonna try to take a run after work.

Anyone else feel like this was so incredibly not worth it?

I have experience with alcohol withdrawal, which was terrible, but usually by day 3 I was ready to try to get back in the saddle. Right now I just feel flat anhedonia. It’s making it hard to stay straight. Let alone the physical piece. I truly hate this stuff

Decided to pop by and drop an update.

238 days ago I quit a 7 month long 300-500mgpd 7oh habit alongside my 10+ year long 25-30gpd leaf habit cold turkey.

238 days, that's nearly 8 months, but it feels like a lifetime ago at this point. Those first 3 hellish days are but a distant memory, almost as if they occurred to someone else. That doesn't mean I've forgotten them or have become complacent, quite the contrary in fact; however, the numbing of the systemic pain the withdrawals caused is honestly immensely soothing.

Rather than just stating how I feel, I think it's more appropriate to say what I've learned over this time period. The major one being the importance of discipline.

The self-control and discipline gained from such an undertaking should not be understated. Quitting 7/leaf and extricating myself from a dependency on them which I thought I needed feel "normal" has led me to make major improvements to myself and my life in general. I cracked down on my diet eating only home cooked meals of non-processed ingredients, drinking only water and milk (in moderation), and keeping an eye on my macros. I have been going to the gym and lifting heavy and pushing my body for months and the improvements are coming quite dramatically. My blood pressure and cholesterol are normalizing after years of them being high. Those are just to name a few.

More generally, I now truly realize life is a marathon, not a sprint. You cannot expect to be high, whether chemically induced or activity induced, every second of every day. You have to put in work and reap the rewards over time. Positive change is slow but the rewards are unparalleled. There is no exogenous chemical in the world that can reproduce how I feel at this moment. They would only amount to crude approximations. To experience the true releases of dopamine through success and improvement, as nature intended, is intoxicating.

You may feel trapped at this moment and whether you have recently quit or (truly) want to quit, I can tell you that once you stick it out and allow your body to re-regulate over the months and give your body what it really needs, you will never want to go back.

If any questions exist, I'll happily answer them here or in a message. You're all going to make it.

I never had the experience that a lot of you had. I’m old, like 64 old. I took 7 because my smoke shop (I vape) had something to boost energy and guy said it helped pain. I never took much. 1/2 of a 15mg tab was fine by me. There were times I wanted more and I did take another half some evenings if there was something I had to do after work. So my habit was small, tiny comparably, but it got where I NEEDED it to do demanding physical work outside all day in the heat. I’m a farmer by trade. Work never stops even if you are old. 7 helped with energy and the pains of working too hard. I could sit and get up and walk. It was great but all good things come to an end. I guess I need to take more to feel like I did but I can’t do that. I know how this ends. So I started tapering the little amount I was doing.
I got down to an 1/8 of a tablet once a day. I FELT it. That little sliver I could still feel but would not last but maybe 3 hrs, then I just felt bad. No energy, achy, irritable, couch potato and I’m not a couch potato. Stomach all messy. Sweating all night. Well I did almost two weeks of that and had cataract surgery during that time. Anesthesia did not work and I had horrific experience with surgery. Thankful the whole thing was less than a 10 minute operation. I do believe even small amounts do something to opiate receptors. So BEWARE if anyone needs an operation while taking this stuff.
I stopped taking Tuesday. I have no withdrawls to speak of. Going on 46 hrs and nothing. Guess it’s because I was on a low, low dose. Tapering works

I don't know if I'm getting bad stuff somewhere or somehow, but subutex doesn't seem to be working for me.
I mean they are and they're not. They're not stopping me from taking 7! They definitely don't hit the same.
I literally take a 4mg Subutex and then later on (if i get funds) take 40 mg 7oh tab. like i never even took the Subutex. No precipitated w/d..
I can't figure out why. Anybody else going through this? It doesn't make it any easier to quit!
😬* *

Ok yall I pushed it too far on these. Found them after I relapsed on 7 and they aren’t 7 or M but my guess would be the corynoxin I’ve read a little about. Kept it to 2-4 a day and only dosed once a day but I slipped and they last longer effect wise than 7.

Last night wd started after about 12hrs and then today I took one at about 24 hrs just to get through the day but damnit it wasn’t nearly as bad as my 7 wds up In the high 100-1000mg but I hate that clamy feeling and sweating it tf out. I also hate the wet dreams lmfao so uncomfortable.. did it to myself though and I have a big thing this weekend.

I’m just keeping myself to minimal until Monday and then we’ll see how bad it is truly and how long these new extract wd last I’ll be the guinea pig sadly

im the old lady who cold turkeyed the absurd 3.5k-4k mg a day addiction.

around day 45 clean I was finally seeing the end of PAWS and feeling pretty good. Acutes said hold my beer an PAWS sledge hammered me, but I was on the other side finally feeling goooood. A couple weeks before I quit, I bought a metric shit ton. half I threw away half I rerouted to a ups access point, where it stayed for many weeks until it didn’t

well, I lied to myself and said time to get the stash in case I have surgery or something and need it. I have a degenerative connective tissue disease where surgery is sometimes inevitable if something life threatening happens to me, so my addict brain lies exploited that situation. I knew better too because it took me over a decade to have alcohol in my house and not relapse (I am also a recovering alcoholic)

had the stash for about 4 days and turned into golem from the lord of the rings. it consumed my every thought. it’s MINE MY PRECIOUS

I relapsed for two days. thankfully I only took 25 mg each day. omg. it tasted like insane chemicals — which I never noticed when I was eating handfuls all day long.didnt even get me high. i had thousands of tablets but I drew a line at 25 mg somehow. oh man it made me feel awful. Headache. Sooo sick… but even worse is..

long story short even this small amount gave me an express ticket back to PAWS hell. so I drove 30 minutes away and threw the whole stash away in a very public trash can that I knew I would not come back to get it out of.

the reason I am posting this is for anyone even considering a relapse. call your support system and get through it but more importantly don’t have any of it anywhere near you. it is never going to be worth it. I have been very good about my support but I told nobody I was golem and had them again of course

I am not juding or beating myself up. no point in that. took about 11 days clean to get out of PAWS 2.0 world. Still have the insane insomnia again. Not worth it.

Hi I'm trying to find a rehab that is in nature like the mountains or something and accepts Medicaid,and can transport me to there. I'm In Kentucky but will travel if they provide it. Can anyone help out?

Quit cold turkey last Tuesday afternoon after taking ~300 mg/day for about a year. I do suffer from chronic pain, but I’d be lying if I said it weren’t manageable with Tylenol. In all honesty I just really love opioids. By last Tuesday evening, I was in such a god awful state with nonstop cyclical vomiting, brain zaps, symptoms of neuropathy etc. I had to go to the ER for IV fluids and antiemetics. I said no when offered subs because I was terrified of possible precipitated WDs making my symptoms even worse. I’ve been throwing up damn near everything I’ve tried to eat and drink since then—with the exception of one egg I managed to keep down this morning, I haven’t had hardly any nutrition since last Tuesday morning. Last night I started throwing up blood due to my esophagus being so raw from all the stomach acid.

It’s day 9 clean and I’m finally fucking feeling better. I’m still very weak, dehydrated and fairly malnourished, but I can’t describe how insanely good it feels to be on the other side at last. I did take SR starting on day 2 in addition to rx antiemetics and other comfort meds I’m already prescribed, but obviously nothing did much to stop the incessant vomiting. I saw my PCP this morning and had my blood drawn to make sure my kidneys aren’t damaged from the lack of fluids and nutrients; if they are then that’ll be another ER trip, but either way it’s all uphill from here. I’m so fucking proud of myself. Fuck 7oh.

Whew. My last 7oh dose was August 7th at 2am. Thank God for quickmd. Got all the helper meds from them and it was truly a lifesaver. I haven’t had anything in three days now as far as helper meds go. My sleep is almost back to normal and mentally I’m clearheaded and motivated. My only issue is I’m still not able to go #2 on a daily basis. Overall I feel great and I want to thank this group for that. I was so scared about quitting but if I can do it anyone. My state hasn’t had it on shelves since last year and I was able to find one website that would still ship to my state. Now that site is out of 7oh so I had no option but to quit. I started out with kratom powder around covid time and eventually discovered 7oh in 2024. At my max I was taking 350-400 mgpd without ever any breaks between days.

So I grew up in the era of plentiful opiates. I’ve been struggling with addiction most of my life. In highschool, I was doing blues/oxys with friends then by senior yr blues/oxys by myself. Then I went off to college and lost access to my dealers before things got too bad. Completely clean my first semester(at least of opiates lol).

Then I broke my foot really badly. This is like 2012 so I was able to get a pretty good script out of it. Immediately started abusing those which led me back down the addiction path, only deeper this time. The next six years or so I’m a semi-functioning addict. Luckily a combination of being a broke college student, and blues not always being available meant there was a limit on how much I could use. These factors also led me to starting buying H though(luckily I only shot up twice, could never do it myself cause I hate needles so a friend did it for me)

So I’m in a constant state of using and then WD, then using then WD, cause I can’t find or afford any. Somehow through all that I was able to graduate/pass my finals. I remember walking to my tests dripping in sweat from acutes, only to walk in to a FREEZING classroom and trying not to look like a junkie.

So I passed my finals great… but anyone else at that time would be thinking about there future and there next step.. all I could think about was H and how to get it. But I ended up getting a job anyway (not as good as I would have gotten). And immediately fucked it up because of my addiction. It was still a decent job, but I was coming in on WD with cravings and left early and suspiciously a few times (you know why). I ended up getting fired and moving back home with my parents..I had ruined my life. Then I learned what WDs really were..CT, no helper meds, but I got through it.

So I fucked up my life with my addiction, but I got clean… FAST FORWARD to summer 25’. I had been clean for about 7 yrs. Things were going great, I was exercising and meditating etc. all the shit we’re supposed to do…. I was at a point where I don’t think I had even thought about opiates for yrs.

THEN…. Driving around one day I hear on the radio a news story about 7oh. God what I would do to go back in time and never hear that news story(I’m tearing up writing this).. I live in New Orleans now and the story was about how Louisiana was going to ban 7oh and kratom in about a month. My addict brain IMMEDIATELY started churning and devising. Hey I can’t get addicted too bad if it’s going to be banned in a month. I’ve been clean for so long and doing so good maybe I deserve a little last hurrah.

I think to my credit a week went by before I drove past a smoke shop and thought, hey maybe I’ll step in and see if they have that 7oh stuff. I walk in and Dozo Perks are prominently displayed on the counter… “perks?… I know what they’re doing” I thought. This really is a legal loophole opiate.. so I bought some and came home and tried it

I had tried kratom during my first addiction to help the WDs but it didn’t seem to help so I just forgot about it.

7oh tho… holy shit. I can’t remember how much I took but I had been clean for so long it GOT ME. I was flying.. I think when it first kicked in I started do impromptu ballet I was so happy 🤣. Like here’s this feeling again I’ve missed so much. I then spent a month amassing 7oh packets. My addiction spiraled out of control very quickly. I had never had cheap opiates readily available on my drive home before. You can imagine…

The ban comes, did I quit? Of course not. I started ordering MGM online. It’s been a little over a year. I’ve quit and relapsed a few times. This has to stop.

I’m trying to use this ban to stop but I have been to a few websites and noticed it’s still available. THANK GOD i stopped short of ordering any, but I was close.
I’m currently in hour 50 of being clean and starting to feel a lil better

Sorry this is so long I’m in WD and rambling/need to vent(you probably are too if you’re still reading, haha been there)

I love you all that are going through this. We never asked to love this stuff, our bodies just love it anyway.

I just wanted to share our experience with Quick MD.

Background- my husband and I have both used kratom since 2016. We have been taking 7OH since 2024. We both take around 1,000mg per day.

Together we’ve decided to make drastic changes in our life. We are very close and do everything together so naturally if one of us is quitting we’re both quitting. We’ve tried to quit on our own. We’ve failed. After lots of reading here on Reddit we wanted to try quick Md.

My husband’s apt was on Saturday. He had a lovely Female dr who was warm and embracing. She was thorough and just so kind. She prescribed him 8/2 Suboxone films and clonadine for sleep and comfort. She explained everything in detail and sent follow-up instructions. She wants to see him in one week to see how it went to to prescribe the rest of the month.She was just perfect.

Husband started suboxone on Monday and is through the worst of it now. He’s going back to work tomorrow on his day 4.

I just had my apt this evening (Wednesday). I scheduled with a male. I did research on every dr and found this one had an expertise in addiction treatment.

I get on the phone and immediately I can’t see the dr. He’s hidden in the corner of the screen obviously this geezer doesn’t know much about technology. His WiFi service was terrible and I could barely make out him asking me for my name and date of birth. He asks me what I’m there for and I explain my history with 7OH and kratom. He asks a lot of questions about other drug use and family history of drug use. I don’t drink or smoke pot - I hate them both. Kratom is all I’ve ever loved and I’m in a mentally rough place giving this up. His questioning was cold and accusatory almost like he didn’t believe me. He was rough all the way around- I immediately did not like him. He talked down to me and I felt judged and stupid. I literally held back tears during the visit - I could also feel myself becoming increasingly angry. I explained to him how awful my anxiety is and the reason for my kratom use has always been that. I said every time I try to quit the anxiety and rls is so bad I give up. He ended up prescribing 4 mg strips for me. (I had checked with the pharmacy about 8mg strips in stock not 4) he prescribed up to 4 of these per day for two weeks then a follow up. He said anything else? I then asked about clonidine or gabapentin to help with the withdrawal and he flat out said “no this is all you need”

BRO I JUST WATCHED MY HUSBAND CURLED INTO A BALL FOR 36 hours … he took 10 clonadine in 24 hours- that’s bullshit.

He said “WE do not prescribe those for withdrawal they are far to sedating together”

You all - I’m pissed- I’m pissed about his bedside manner- I’m pissed that I did so much research to get “the right one” and I failed. I’m pissed that my husband received far far better treatment (he’s a male maybe that’s why). I’m pissed I gave this asshole $100. I wish I could redo. I absolutely will NOT BE rescheduling with him. Quick Md needs to take him off the platform.

I just feel stupid. And angry. And scared. And judged. I will be reviewing my options and continuing to seek help elsewhere.

And now I have to pay more money than my husband because he prescribed a less common drug.

I cold turkey quit once, and i relapsed. Some of you might remember my post, but this was me
https://www.reddit.com/r/quitting7oh/s/wsdoodrIjV

So long story short here i am again, i was able to quit and went back to normal. The reason i wanted to do it again is cause i have a concert coming up, and i don’t drink anymore so i wanted to do it for my concert friday. I wont bore you with the story, but i ended up taking it on Sunday 8/9 and fast forward to today 8/19 Wednesday currently 11:30PM I’ve been on around 120mg everyday since 8/9 Im so upset, and disappointed with myself. I would only take it when i got off of work at 4:15pm so i thought i was in control of it, and only took it throughout the day on the weekend. I would be fine at work and didn’t feel a need to take it in the day. Then it happened… i woke up, went to work today, and 2 hours in had a MASSIVE panic attack, i caved and took some around 11AM. I felt a lot better, but now i realize im right back where i was. I went to the doctor, and i was able to get more gabapentin, and they gave me some trazodone but who knows if that will help at all. Is there any advice you guys could give? Should i go cold turkey tomorrow or wait till after the concert? I had huge plans to do an official proposal to my fiancé at the concert, and i’m worried ill feel like shit in peak withdrawal so idk if i should just do it then cold turkey Saturday, what do you guys think? Any tips or tricks this time? It was a shorter time frame of taking it this time, and most of the time it was only taken after 4:15pm and around 120mg a day. I’m worried gabapentin isn’t going to do anything again, and i’m so nervous about panic attacks and insomnia. Those withdrawals last time were hell. Do you guys think it maybe won’t be as bad this time since it wasn’t as long or severe, and i know what to expect, plus trazodone this time? Im so sorry i let everyone down, it’s time to finally kick this, and i’m so glad we all have each other. This is the best group of people, and i’m so happy these groups exist. I wish everyone luck, and would appreciate any tips or advice i can get. I’m nervous as hell. I can deal with anxiety, but the panic attacks i can’t. Last time i went CT i only had the one the day before i CT, i never really had one while going CT just lingering bad anxiety. Also if anyone’s also going through this im always willing to message and boost each other up! We all got this and im so proud of putting this behind us!
(I typed this really fast before bed, i have work tomorrow. Sorry for the rushed typing and might not make sense. I will fix, and update if there’s any questions. Just to clarify it’s been 10 days at 120mg. Need tips, guidance, or help with meds or vitamins. I’ll be posting i’m multiple 7oh communities. I love you all, thank you so much. I’ll keep fixing, responding, and updating!)