r/quitting7oh

I’m currently at 31 days off 7. What you’re going through is nothing to be ashamed about. Many of us fell for the trap. Waking up in withdrawal every single time you go to sleep, sneaking off every 1-2 hours to dose, pouring thousands of dollars into a chemical just to “feel normal”, the sweats, no energy, no motivation, overwhelming sense of doom. I know all about it. You try to quit but it’s both physically and mentally unbearable. Quitting seems impossible right now. It’s not.. the thought of quitting was almost funny to me just 32 days ago. This group he’s helped me through one of the hardest times in my life. From the success post to the people begging for help. You guys showed me I wasn’t alone. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. I lost my house, 6 figure job, friends, briefly split from my wife. I’ve lost everything. At the time I thought this was it. I thought my time was near. That sense of doom will devour you. But it’s not real, it’s the 7. No one knows the long term effects yet, but I can tell you it gets pretty dark around year 2. To the person that’s in the same boat I was in not too long ago, one day at a time my friend. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. Stop hiding from it and face it head on. You got this and I wish the best for every single one of you. It’s sad how large this community has become, but we couldn’t be more blessed to have all this support whenever we need it. Again, YOU GOT THIS.

We got this!!!

Day 3 no 7OH myself. Tapered down from a 1000mg/day down to maybe 100-150mg/day and make the jump

I Have

17 - which is weirdly working well - the stuff is a miracle
Gabbie’s
Some bars
Plenty of Batak XL Kratom powder from WG

HMU or dm me if u need some advice/support cuz like a lot of you guys in here, im going thru hell too

I’I’m trying to get ahead of this before I’m forced into a situation where everything falls apart. After about a year of severe 7OH dependence, my life has become centered around avoiding withdrawal and just trying to stay functional. The financial damage has been around $30,000 in additional debt, and I know I need to find a real solution instead of continuing down this path.

I tried buprenorphine because I genuinely wanted to quit, but I never reached a point where I felt stable. I continued having withdrawal symptoms and cravings, as well as debilitating acute depression.

With 7OH becoming federally restricted or banned soon, I keep thinking about what is going to happen to the tons of people who are heavily dependent and have absolutely no plan at all.

I worry that a lot of people are going to end up overwhelmed, in emergency rooms, losing their jobs, or losing their housing because they were not able to prepare ahead of time, with myself being ima part of that category if I continue on like this.

I’m trying to make the responsible choice before I get to that point. I’m seriously considering m-done, even though the reality is intimidating: waking up early every day, driving to another city, dosing in person, and then trying to make it back and continue working.

For those who have been through severe dependence or a similar situation, I would really like to hear your experiences.

Did m-done actually give you enough stability to rebuild your life?

Was the daily clinic routine worth it?

Did you ever feel like you were too far gone to recover, and if so, what helped you turn things around?

How long did it take before you started feeling like you were getting your life back?

I’m not looking for a magic fix. I’m trying to find a realistic way forward before I lose anything else.

Coming up on day 4. It’s a mission to get up to pee or move in general. My mind is ready for the gym but I can’t get up without getting lightheaded. How long does this last?

Think about it. They're on their way to work, withdrawals are incoming. "Let me stop at the shop real quick so I can get through work." Only to find out that 7OH is now a schedule 1 substance, and they can't get it anywhere in the country. It's going to be a rough couple of weeks for a lot of people. And imagine the people whose partners or whoever don't know what they've got going on... That's how they have to find out. Oof.

So, trying to taper down from a ~600 mg daily habit. Went to 250mg total yesterday & did okay, with my last dose being about 12A. Woke up at 930A with the worst panic attack I have ever experienced... about 20 minutes if hell. Like, violently pacing & twitching, hyperventilation, BP through the roof I'm sure as my face & arms went numb, instant drenching of sweat, the worst feeling of burning up on the inside but being painfully cold on the outside, and by far the worst feeling of dread I have experienced. Like you just found out a loved one died & that feeling of total terror/pain the washes over you for a moment, except this was 20 minutes for no discernable reason. I just wanted to scream. I sadly munched 100mg or so of 7oh while trying to get the feeling to go away & it did really quickly after 7oh kicked in

I did take a 0.1mg clonidine the night before last but nothing last night, maybe related? Probably a bit of a lot of things but mainly 7oh WD.

Any advice with this taper?

I have been using up to ~500mg/day since the beginning of the year. I used all brands--probably definitely some MGM but for the past months, nothing but 7Tabz brand.

My last dose was at 2pm yesterday and though I slept through the night, I definitely woke up with some stiffness and sore muscles, but nothing that I would consider withdrawal. I took a pretty heavy dose of pregabalin this morning (I have a tolerance) but it seemed to mask any symptoms of wds, though still the soreness and occasional yawning and goosebumps.

At the 24 hr mark, I still wasn't in full blown wd, but I scored well above the COWS assessment to induce MAT--but again, not the level of wd that I've felt from 7 before.

So I took 4mg MAT and immediately went into what, at the moment, was certain to be pwds.

Immediate out-of-this-world anxiety/terror, insane thirst, tinnitus, sweating, 12/10 whole body restlessness, and a mental state that is hard to explain because it's the only time I have felt it.

After about 5 minutes of panicky googling of "should I take more to stop pwds or will it make it worse," and not finding a consensus, only more panic, I took 2mg benz, laid down and got under the covers, closed my eyes and prayed.

90 minutes later I woke up and felt better than I had all day. Things were a bit surreal still but physically I honestly felt alright. I have dosed MAT 2mg at a time 3 times since then, and gradually felt more and more normal.

So my question--was this legit pwds or simply my receptors experiencing a brief shock of going from one to the other?
From what I have read of others' pwds, the tide wouldn't have turned and fast or fully as it did for me.

Also...24 hours?! How is that not long enough?!

So I'm 10 days off 7oh. Still having a few issues. Anxiety, getting hot, and RLS. I went to the doctor and got colonidine. Its a life saving drug that helps BIG TIME. I won't give all my medical information, but people need to know what this crap can do to you. I had blood work done. I got a call saying my thyroid is shot. My thyroid stimulating hormone levels were NONexistent. I looked up can 7oh cause this and of course yes it can.

Go to the doctor and get yourselves checked.

Hi everyone. Tomorrow I will be checking into a hotel to let the withdrawals go for about 12 hours before I take my prescribed meds to quit. I don’t want to be in front of my wife and toddler while going through the withdrawals.

I wanted to know if anyone had any advice, as I’ve never done this before. I am prescribed clonipin, and prescribed gabapent bottle with some left. I also have magnesium and a range of B vitamins and tums.

I need this to work. I need my life and personality back. I want to get back out to running on trails. I don’t want to worry about how much I have left and when I need the next dose to feel normal.

I made a huge mistake and now, two years later, here we are. It’s embarrassing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

In about 17 minutes I’ll be at the 48 hr mark. Trying to ACT a 1000mg a day habit. I’ve seen people say they start to feel better around day 3 and I was just wondering how accurate that is. I’ve been contemplating going to the hospital and trying to start MAT but I’ve done it before and don’t really want to go back down that road unless I absolutely have to and I’m just trying to push through the worst of it. When did the acute symptoms start to back off for you guys?

From 400-800mg, down to 150mg - haven’t had any yet

Can’t skip work, fucking breaking down in the back room.

Crying and fuckin hurting.

All I have is Kratom pills I can’t tell if they’re working - 8 600mg red ma deng every two hours

Literally no access to anything else

Feel so fucking hopeless, breaking down, how the fuck am in gonna do this

It’s only been day two when the fuck does this get any better

Stomachs killing me burning, headaches, my bones hurt, their is a pulsating pounding sensation in my neck that is just awful, still getting chills, no energy. I genuinely felt better on day 3 as opposed to day 22. Last time I made it to day 25 until I said screw it and gave up. Will I get better? Anyone experience all this?

I went from 400-800mg to 250mg over night starting Monday - currently taking 3 doses of 50 at sporadic intervals (depending on how long I can hold out for.) but nothing more than 150

Already made the crashing leap to 150

I have until roughly until Saturday to quit if I stick to 150

What tapering doses should I be doing to make this as easy as possible (even though I know it’s going to suck)

I’m currently taking 6-8 800mg Kratom pills, will begin taking vitamin c tomorrow hopefully

I do not have any other options than the ones listed above for reference so uh..yea don’t suggest anything else, this is all I got

I just wanted to thank every single one of you in this community for the wealth of resources, stories and information that I've been able to gather from this subreddit, it's been invaluable for my quitting. I've posted a couple times and was mostly met with kindness, generosity and care and it meant the world to me as most people in my life didn't know about my addiction. But anyways, hopefully this will be my last post here.

I was taking 1,000+mg per day for over a year and it nearly ruined my life, relationships with friends, family and my fiance. Finances totally ruined. My whole life revolved around 7. And as much as I loved the feeling, it took WAY more than it gave. And I am so happy to be done with this stuff. And am so ready to recover what this has taken from me.

I cold turkey'd from the 1,000mg and it was a nightmare. Then I relapsed. Then quit again. Then relapsed again. Then quit again. Then it finally stuck and I'm on day 6 with no 7oh in my system whatsoever and I feel pretty good. Been doing therapy, talking a lot about it, still taking kratom powder, but I'm planning on quitting that too soon. But I wanted to thank all of you, once again, for everything you've provided to me and my recovery. I hope you're all doing well and are pushing through this. Thank you guys. This community is amazing.

I have been slowly tapering off the past week, mostly due to running out of funds, but also due to the emergency ordinance in my neighboring states of Kansas and Tennessee. Only saw it as a matter of time for MO. Sure enough, it happened. Yesterday I went to get some for taper supply and had no issue. Today, I went in to get the very last pack I needed for my schedule I created. Nothing on the shelves. I am friends with the worker, and he said he has it stashed in the back and will only sell to longtime customers he knows because they can no longer sell it. I was able to buy the last pack. It’s scary to know that if I am wrong about my taper and I need an emergency dose, I have no chance of running to the store. Luckily I bought the normal Kratom leaf last week to help the taper, because even that was off shelves too. This is really the end guys, for better or for worse. Praying for everyone still on this stuff and those who will lose their lives in the following months. I already know a guy I met in NA that went back to fetty because of this. Please start getting off this stuff now before it’s too late!!! Love you

It has been almost 24 hours (Sunday at 6 PM) since my last dose and I already feel like I got hit by a truck. Quitting after 2 months of daily use (never exceeding 100 mg in one day thankfully). This gives me hope that I can be over the worst of it by day 4 or 5.

I have to work this week, no way around it. I need sleep and I need to get through my days. I know it’s temporary and it will pass - short term struggle for long term gain.

I have a few aids/old scripts at my disposal:
One 20 mg tablet of Adderall - my guess is save this for day 3?
Flexeril (several pills)- when should I use this?
Gabapentin (several pills)- should I use this every night to get the sleep I need or will this delay my recovery time? (If I stop gab by day 4, will RLS pick back up harder than before)
THC- should I hit the pen to help with discomfort or will this make things worse for my brain chemistry?
I still have some 7OH - should I flush it or use small amounts to subside the worst parts of this week? My goal is to be over the withdrawals by this weekend.

Turning to the experts for help - my expectations are that this week is going to be hell. That’s okay though because my decision to quit is final.

I appreciate any love and encouragement sent my way.

Hi everybody, i’m new here. I am a tennessee resident and all the 7oh and kratom was pulled from the shelves here last wednesday. i stocked up to make it through the holiday weekend with my family before I hopped into the trenches of WD. I just took my last dose, and I am honestly so nervous about what’s to come. I have some plain leaf, as someone has recommended that may help me get through the worst of the physical symptoms for the first couple days. I have stocked up on vitamin C, magnesium-citrate, and my usual ashwaganda that I take for my anxiety on the daily. I know I need to keep water in my system but does anyone else have any advice or recommendations for me to help me get through this? thank you in advance 🖤

So I quit 7 about a week and a half ago… but I’ve been using that med that helps you get off of opiates because it is one.. I started heavy and worked my way down now I’m at 2-4mg a day.

I do start getting the sniffles between doses (I dose once a day).

Have a just traded addictions or will it be easy to stop being I’m on a low dose for only a couple weeks?