r/quitting7oh

I have CT so many times that I have lost count, and each time I do it it gets more and more horrific. I thought I would try this method so day one, dressed to go to work I took my small dose of subs and prayed to God I would not PW. Took it headed to work and out side of some phlegm in my throat and sweats I was good to go. Took my normal dose of 7 and it was a great day. I have increased each day the sub dose and I am on day 4 and I swear to you guys I did not noticed until I was off of work that I had skipped 2 full doses without even realizing it. This works guys, I feel myself caring less and less about taking my dose when a week ago my day revolved around it. I have dropped from 800-1000mg to about 400 without even realizing it. No real withdrawal symptoms other than that phlegm and a bit of temperature control. It works guys it really does i am shocked how well it has worked for me. God bless and good luck.

I have been on a 500mg per day habit for around a year now. I went through a bad breakup with my girlfriend of 2 years at the time and started using heavily after I had moved back in with my parents. Girlfriend and I started to reconnect, I was still using and thought things were going well so I decided to get my own place and get out of my parents house. Girlfriend decided to split again and now I’m responsible for the full rent by myself and have no support system. I work 60 hours a week at two jobs just to afford the rent. I can’t afford to continue to pay for this habit, and now that the bans are ramping up it will eventually be impossible to even find any (which is good). I’m scared shitless of quitting. I can’t afford to take a significant amount of time off, but I don’t want to have to get on subs to quit either. I’m not sure what to do. I’ve been thinking about tapering but boredom, anxiety, and loneliness make it extremely difficult to limit my intake and cut down each day. I’m already an emotional wreck because of the break up and I have all of these responsibilities that I can’t just put on hold. Does anyone have any advice? Maybe I’ll just have to bite the bullet and get on subs so that I can at least have some semblance of a normal life while I’m getting off the stuff. I’m terrified. I have 250 60mg tabs left to my name and literally cannot afford to get any more. Help!

Don’t mean to be a downer to people who are in the trenches right now. If you’re 2 weeks or less, do yourself a favor and don’t read this.

Today is day 30 for me. I’m honestly feeling so “flat” it’s hard to describe. Zero motivation, zero ambition. Just go to work, get through my day, and when I get home all I wanna do is lay on the couch/ go to bed.

Ive been exercising, been trying to be around friends as much as possible. I even started Lexapro 2 weeks ago (doctor recommended because she saw my depression increasing). Nothing seems to help.

I know this post sounds dreary and whiny. But that’s how I’m feeling. I was at 350-400 mg a day for a little over a year. Everyday I think about getting some more 7 cause at least I was productive and pleasant to be around. I haven’t and won’t. But damn the urge is there.

Any recommendations? Anyone else feeling this same way? I guess maybe I’m looking for some motivation to stay clean from others that have been through this phase. Open to any and all opinions. Love you guys. Stay strong 💪🏼

Genuinely curious what others are doing to get through this and stay grounded? I’ve seen people say they have stashes and are still in the thick of detox.

For background I’m 35, been through all CT detoxes under the sun, if you’re thinking about it and that detox sucked, I’ve gone through it. and for the most part was able to boot strap it. Comparatively this is not any worse than those, it sucks just as much, maybe even less than some of those.

Today I made it 16 hours, the longest I have since starting 7 a little over a year ago and I had some very very briefs milliseconds of comfort through the night but by the time my dog was up and ready to start his day I couldn’t help myself but to stop off at the shop and get a pack of the usual. I’m at my limit here. I had to have my poor mother pay my bills last month because every cent I made from work went to 7. She’s fully aware of what’s going on, and very supportive, but also she will not be able to hand another month like last. How are you all just biting the bullet to get through it when it’s so readily available and easy to achieve comfort?

Hey everybody. I'm using a throwaway so I don't dox my wife.

My wife has been taking some form of kratom extract for about 2 years now. She started with Feel Free drinks, then moved on to 7oh tablets.

We've recently been having discussions about her wanting to quit. She really wants to stop, but she's afraid of the WDs.

I have been supportive, maybe even enabling at times, but I want to help her kick this habbit. I've offered to take the kids and let her lay in bed all day and take care of her basically like she has the flu. Do you have any other tips on how a spouse can help in this situation?

Just wondering lost my relationship of 3 whole years when she found out I was doing this.

Right at 64 hours i lapsed. Hopefully i can just continue with my quit. I had it all weekend with me at the motel. W/d's were essentially over. But coming home sober was too much. Tell me i didnt erase my progress if i dont dose again?

Anyone please comment talk to me help me get thru this please. Let me know im not alone please.

I’ve been so used to feeling a synthetic euphoria that I’m not quite sure how to function sober anymore. The acutes are gone but the anxiety and anhedonia are hitting super hard. It’s scary looking to the future

I needed the Suboxone to quit. I could not make it past 12 hours post 7 dose without the subs. But I finally made it and I'm working on the subs now - have tapered down to 3mg/pd split am and pm. I learned the hard way that there is no such thing as an "aggressive taper and hop off the subs" for me. Day 2 (Day 6 of the 7oh quit) after stopping the subs woke me up right in the middle of acute wd. Pissed me off more than anything, thought I was going to die, could barely walk more than 5 steps without falling to hands and knees for dry heaves. Went to ER which was useless. They are completely unprepared to treat any sort of drug withdrawal conditions. So, lesson learned - take into account the long-assed half-life. Went home from the hospital, took 2mg subs in the afternoon to knock it back, then 1.75 mg the next day am and pm. Today is the second day of that dosage and am planning a 0.25 mg decrease tomorrow (am and pm).

Is it too late for me to do a long, slow subs taper? Say, something like a 0.25 mg decrease every 2 days and then jump off? Or is getting the shot the way I need to go? Tbh, I'm sick of being a slave to any drugs - including my diabetes drug. My GP also prescribed helper meds clonidine, gabapentin, and promethyzine - but I've no clue how to use them to ease subs withdrawals.

Please let me know what you think. Don't berate me for going the subs path - it's already done, has led to a 7oh-free path forward from here, and I could not have managed to do it without them.

Thanks in advance for any advice you have! I am so grateful to this subreddit! I've had the page open 24/7 since my last dose of 7 and you all have been my lifeline since I live alone. I am so appreciative.

My partner and I plan to taper of 7. It has severely depressed my mentaI, stopped eating for awhile, had problems with bowel movements. Got worse with family loss, loss of occupation and drinking. A few years ago got bad on F(never had a habitual hard drug use besides a weekend party).I hope Wds aren’t like that.
We use to do gas station 7 but now I’ve been doing lab tested ( with results) for almost 8 months. I noticed my gas station 7wd was way worse than with lab tested when testing the waters.

What should our taper schedule be ideally once I figure my baseline? Some days it’s 150- others maybe 500. Some days need more than others. I plan tomorrow to find what I actually take.

Thank you for anyone that takes time to share their experience or advice.

We would love anybody’s success stories to be able to motivate and congratulate. Anyone going through it too . advice would be appreciated. Doing this and knowing we aren’t the first, last , and it’s possible. We are definitely trying to be reinforcing each other but it’s still a bit scary.

So I don’t think I can do this anymore. Living a double life, spending too much money on this crap, taking out cash advances and ignoring bills, hiding it all from my wife, not being mentally or emotionally present at home, just constantly running and miserable. Constantly worried about losing the house or not being able to pay for my car or getting sued by creditors, dreading what notices might be in the mail that day if my wife is home. I’m at rock bottom, I’m throwing in the towel and coming clean today. I don’t know if my wife will stay. I’ve had alcohol problems before, I was addicted to 7oh until last year same time when I quit for about 8 months. Had a couple relapses, this last one has gone on 2 months and it has its claws in me again. I’ve been drinking somewhat heavily since I quit 7oh the first time around. I want to be sober. I need treatment or ongoing accountability, I need to change these patterns that keep bringing me here where I feel shame and then hide it in a substance. Any advice anyone has is welcome, I’m just sick of it.

I’m so close I can taste it! Just wanted to post my progress. I know I know I could probably just cold turkey the rest but I know I don’t have the will power to do it.

18th - 250mg
19th - 236mg
20th - 224mg
21st - 208mg
22nd - 212mg
23rd - 203mg
24th - 186.5mg
25th - 177mg
26th - 168mg
27th - 168mg
28th - 153.5mg
29th - 144mg
30th - 117mg
Sept 1 - 102mg
Sept 2 - 66.5mg (this was a mistake going so hard in the paint. I didn’t sleep for 2 days )
Sept 3 - 67.5mg
Sept 4 - if everything goes well I’ll be at 63mg

The plan now is just to take it easy and cut 4.5mg every other day till zero. I don’t want to experience what I experienced on Sept 2nd and 3rd. That was hell

Can't believe it's even got to this point, but as I'm 29 years old with a business I really don't have any friends and not a single person in my family knows, so I'm fighting this battle completely alone and could use some redditors to help me feel a bit less pathetic.

7oh has been my downfall, truthfully, in every single aspect of my life. January 1st, 2025 I started the carnivore diet. I stayed completely committed. Not a single cheat meal.. no drugs. Got to July 2025 and had lost 76lbs at this point.

Blood pressure evened out. Heart rate lowered. 13 blood improvement (I got bloodwork right before starting and then again in July to compare). Good cholesterol went up, bad cholesterol went down. I was thriving. Laser focused.. multi tasking. Talkative. Social. Confident..

After the weight loss I started tracking my protein intake while staying in ketosis. Problem is, when you are taking in protein but your glycogen is depleted and you have no fiber.. your stool becomes very hard. Brick like. I went to the bathroom one time. Pushed too hard. Came out like a brick.. screaming pain. Developed internal hemorrhoids.

This led to me immediately dropping the diet in hopes it would help alleviate my stool pains with softer ones. This agonizing pain lasted 5-6 months.. which I then found 7oh and took it once.. I'll never forget the euphoria I got that day. Kept it in my pockets and went down an 11 month long 7o journey. I had stopped once in the past for 30 days.. picked it right back up.

Fast forward now I've been 60 days clean, and broke that sobriety on September 23rd, and it's now August 4th. This means I'm 11 days in.. but I no longer have the helper substance that got me through the first time.

I'm terrified of going through the no sleep for a week, hot flashes, restless legs, anhedonia.. my biggest fear is the anhedonia. Not knowing what to do with myself all day. That pit in my stomach of just doing nothing and feeling like I need something.

Ugh. Idk. Is 11 days too far in to stop, or is there a chance I won't feel extremely bad withdrawals if I stop right now? Compared to consistent monthly use.. or will it be the same?

Not sure if anyone read this all the way through but like I said, I could really use a friend right now and perhaps some advice. I'm in an extremely low place at the moment. The thoughts are not pleasant. Thank you.

How long do your paws last? Anyone here use a little over a year and quit? I am so depressed. No cravings. Just empty and sad and really really low

Can't believe it's even got to this point, but as I'm 29 years old with a business I really don't have any friends and not a single person in my family knows, so I'm fighting this battle completely alone and could use some redditors to help me feel a bit less pathetic.

7oh has been my downfall, truthfully, in every single aspect of my life. January 1st, 2025 I started the carnivore diet. I stayed completely committed. Not a single cheat meal.. no drugs. Got to July 2025 and had lost 76lbs at this point. Blood pressure evened out. Heart rate lowered. 13 blood improvement (I got bloodwork right before starting and then again in July to compare). Good cholesterol went up, bad cholesterol went down. I was thriving. Laser focused.. multi tasking. Talkative. Social. Confident..

After the weight loss I started tracking my protein intake while staying in ketosis. Problem is, when you are taking in protein but your glycogen is depleted and you have no fiber.. your stool becomes very hard. Brick like. I went to the bathroom one time. Pushed too hard. Came out like a brick.. screaming pain. Developed internal hemorrhoids.

This led to me immediately dropping the diet in hopes it would help alleviate my stool pains with softer ones. This agonizing pain lasted 5-6 months.. which I then found 7oh and took it once.. I'll never forget the euphoria I got that day. Kept it in my pockets and went down an 11 month long 7o journey. I had stopped once in the past for 30 days.. picked it right back up.

Fast forward now I've been 60 days clean, and broke that sobriety on September 23rd, and it's now August 4th. This means I'm 11 days in.. but I no longer have the helper substance that got me through the first time. I'm terrified of going through the no sleep for a week, hot flashes, restless legs, anhedonia.. my biggest fear is the anhedonia. Not knowing what to do with myself all day. That pit in my stomach of just doing nothing and feeling like I need something.

Ugh. Idk. Is 11 days too far in to stop, or is there a chance I won't feel extremely bad withdrawals if I stop right now? Compared to consistent monthly use.. or will it be the same?

Not sure if anyone read this all the way through but like I said, I could really use a friend right now and perhaps some advice. I'm in an extremely low place at the moment. The thoughts are not pleasant. Thank you.

As the title says. I was off 7oh for 4 weeks. It was hell getting off of it. I had to do a rapid sub taper the first eleven days of quitting and the first week was so hard mentally. When I finally made it out of the clear I got off the subs and used kratom powder to help ease any withdrawal from that and continued to use the powder. I was hooked to the powder before 7-oh but after going through the hell 7-oh put me through, financially, physically, and mentally I figured it be easier to quit the powder this time around. And when I got cravings that where to intense I would buy a opms black or cryo shot and it would help big time. Well a couple of weeks ago I started hanging out with a friend I haven’t hung out with in a couple years and she gave me a few of her vyvanse medication. I myself have adhd and used to be prescribed adderall for it but got off of it because I would abuse it. When I took the vyvanse it reminded me a lot of adderall and when I would use adderall I would mix it with kratom powder or extracts. I made the bright decision to take 7-oh to enhance the vyvanse euphoria. I didn’t take 7oh again after that until a couple of days later. And then I hung out with that same friend again and ended up having a night of doing coke and well to come down off it I ended up taking 7-oh again. And since then I haven’t stopped taking 7. I have been back on it now for a couple of weeks and that’s all it took to get me dependent on it. I’m considering doing a rapid sub taper again for five days but it’s my last resort. I’ll give kratom powder a shot again to help ease the withdrawals. I know it might not help fully but if it helps just a little I won’t have to rely on subs. I know people say just to do a taper with the 7-oh but I know myself, that’s not possible with me. I’ll just end up using more because I’m not getting the feeling I want. That’s my addict brain for ya. I won’t resort to cats claw because it’s just as bad if not worse than 7-oh. I’m already feeling the depression and anxiety 7-oh brings even while using. And even though I know it’s the 7 making me feel this way I still use it. I hate this. I hate that I relapse and makes me feel so hopeless and bad for myself. It’s a never ending cycle it feels like. But during those weeks of being off 7-oh it felt so freeing. I’m now seeing my triggers to make me want to use again. With all that being said I feel very ashamed of myself and now I have to work hard again at getting off this shit again. Any advice will help but please don’t be disrespectful. I’m already feeling like shit and don’t need to add on to it.

I’ve tried to quit 5, maybe more times. Each time, I break around day 3 or 4

This time feels a little different…. I am coming up on the 24 hour mark (at a little over 21 now??) and I feel almost zero withdrawal effects that would normally kick my ass and make me unable to do much…

Sometimes, I would wake up in the morning, body falling apart, NEEDING it to function…. But every now and again, I’ll have days like today where I feel pretty much NOTHING - just maybe a little fatigued??

I am (about the be WAS….) a high-dosage user. For reference, I typically get a little “withdrawal-y” around 4-6 hours MAX…. But often times it comes on quicker than that… maybe just a few hours.

I don’t want to be TOO excited yet…. But when I’ve tried to quit before, I’m unable to anything but lay down by hour 8ish, then I’m in HELL by hour 12. Then I just…. Don’t sleep for days until I give in and go back.

Coming up on a full day…. I am almost thinking that I am going to get through this without getting my ass kicked??

So… anyone else have this experience before? Did the stars align and allow me a “withdrawal-less” exit from 7, or am I going to get my ass kicked like never before between hours 24-48+??

Hello beautiful people, just wanted to spread some light as I’ve been around the block with this substance since it’s inception and have 10 Quits under my belt before I finally surrendered to this addiction.

I can tell you subs are not needed neither is a long taper. You can be free of this substance in 7 days just using what I call the reversal method. It’s as easy as it sounds you just reverse yourself off 7oh how most people get there. For me I started with plain leaf, then found extracts then 7oh and finally MGM. I was using 800mg of MGM a day and up to 2000mg of 7oh before my quits.

My first 3 quits I did CT and it was brutal and not needed I wish I would have known what I know now before I did CT so I didn’t have to endure such hell on earth, obviously I didn’t learn bc I went back even after that and was using 1000mg of 7oh a day on my first CT quit. Yes it was a ton and I suffered when I didn’t need to.

How did I do it? Easy I switched to non 7oh kratom extracts for 4 days then to plain leaf for 3 days and dropped everything on day 8. I avoided all acutes and was only left with low energy, weakness and some insomnia for 2 weeks. All fully bearable and I was able to work through it all.

I am open to questions and more than willing to help as much as I can. I hope this finds someone out there lost without hope like I was so many times before I found my way out.

I have the following quits under my belt for those who want to understand what I’ve been through.

3 CT Quits 1600, 1300, 1000mg 7OH
1 Sub Quit - 1300mg got stuck on them for 3 months super hard to get off of. 😞. Not recommended
5 MIT Quits - 1200-2000mg a day of 7oh 800mg of MGM
1 Esr Quit -2000mg

(Except for lingering stomach issues and insomnia). Now, I just feel…blah. Anxious. It’s a slog to get out of bed and ready for work. I’m such an impatient addict I just want everything to be normal again and produce my own dopamine 😭 regardless, I am super grateful to not be in acutes anymore!!