Fl van left on my private property after repeated deadlines — seeking legal guidance

Location: Gainesville, FL

I’m in Florida and looking for general legal guidance about a van that has been left in front of my house by someone I know. I’m specifically trying to understand the lawful process for having it removed from my property without creating legal problems for myself.

Here’s the timeline as accurately as I can reconstruct it:

The van has been sitting in front of my house for months. I originally gave him notice that the van needed to be moved. I initially remembered that conversation as happening in May, but after going back through our text messages, I confirmed that I formally told him on June 14 that the van needed to be gone.

On June 14, I told him that, separate from the personal issues between us, the only remaining obligation connecting us was the van being in front of my house. He responded that he would make moving it a priority and said he would get it out of my way.

Later, he told me that he had some things to dig out and said he would be there during the second week of August to address the van. He also said he was trying to come earlier and wanted to have some money for me.

I subsequently gave him a specific deadline: August 13. I told him the van needed to be gone by that date and that, if it wasn't, I would make arrangements to have it removed by August 20. I also told him that if his plan to repair the van didn't work out, he needed to have an alternative plan for getting it off my property.

He has known for well over a month that this deadline was coming. He also knew that he was paid weekly and had previously indicated that he expected to have money for me this week. However, when the deadline arrived, he did not have the $150 I had offered as an extension/payment arrangement and the van was still there.

At this point, I told him that my terms were essentially: $150 or move the van by midnight. I also told him that, going forward, I would only respond with payment information or information about where/how to leave the key.

He subsequently asked to call me and tried to reopen the discussion about the deadline. I declined because I did not believe there was anything further to discuss.

There is also a written agreement/contract that was previously proposed, but he never signed it. He had previously objected to the terms, so I am not relying on that unsigned agreement as the basis for what I'm doing now. I am relying on the deadlines and terms I actually communicated to him in writing.

There is an additional complication regarding ownership. My understanding is that the person whose name is actually on the title is the legal owner of the van, and that person may not be the same person who has been communicating with me about the vehicle. I don't want to make assumptions about ownership or do anything that could create criminal liability for me.

After the August 13 deadline passed, I tried to determine the proper procedure for getting the van removed.

I first contacted a towing company. I was told that they would need to run the VIN and determine whether the vehicle was stolen or otherwise had an issue before proceeding. I then contacted local law enforcement to ask about the situation. I made a report, although I had initially hoped to avoid creating a police report because I wanted to resolve the matter without involving law enforcement.

Law enforcement told me, essentially, that they would not come remove the vehicle simply because I want it off my private property. Their involvement would apparently be different if the vehicle were actually obstructing traffic or creating a traffic hazard.

I have also been researching Florida's private-property towing laws, including Florida Statute 715.07, and I'm seeing information suggesting that a vehicle parked without authorization on private residential property may be eligible for a private-property tow, with the towing company handling the impound/storage process and notifying the appropriate parties.

However, because of the title/ownership issue and because I don't want to accidentally cross the line into doing something unlawful, I am trying to get accurate advice before taking any action.

I am not looking for advice on how to retaliate against this person. I simply want the van legally removed from my property after giving him substantial notice and multiple deadlines.

My questions are:

Can I legally have the van removed through a private-property towing company under Florida law?

Does the fact that the person I've been dealing with may not be the titled owner change the process?

Am I required to provide any additional written notice at this point, given that I have months of text messages documenting the deadlines and his responses?

Does the fact that I have already contacted law enforcement and made a report change anything?

What documentation should I have ready for a towing company?

Is there anything I absolutely should not do myself to move or relocate the vehicle?

If anyone here is a Florida attorney familiar with private-property towing/abandoned vehicles, I would really appreciate clarification on the proper process.

I am trying to handle this through the proper legal channels. I don't want to damage, abandon, hide, or otherwise interfere with the vehicle. I simply need it off my property.

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u/DaOriginalJazzy1 — 6 days ago

Fl van left on my private property after repeated deadlines — seeking legal guidance

Location: Gainesville, FL

I’m in Florida and looking for general legal guidance about a van that has been left in front of my house by someone I know. I’m specifically trying to understand the lawful process for having it removed from my property without creating legal problems for myself.

Here’s the timeline as accurately as I can reconstruct it:

The van has been sitting in front of my house for months. I originally gave him notice that the van needed to be moved. I initially remembered that conversation as happening in May, but after going back through our text messages, I confirmed that I formally told him on June 14 that the van needed to be gone.

On June 14, I told him that, separate from the personal issues between us, the only remaining obligation connecting us was the van being in front of my house. He responded that he would make moving it a priority and said he would get it out of my way.

Later, he told me that he had some things to dig out and said he would be there during the second week of August to address the van. He also said he was trying to come earlier and wanted to have some money for me.

I subsequently gave him a specific deadline: August 13. I told him the van needed to be gone by that date and that, if it wasn't, I would make arrangements to have it removed by August 20. I also told him that if his plan to repair the van didn't work out, he needed to have an alternative plan for getting it off my property.

He has known for well over a month that this deadline was coming. He also knew that he was paid weekly and had previously indicated that he expected to have money for me this week. However, when the deadline arrived, he did not have the $150 I had offered as an extension/payment arrangement and the van was still there.

At this point, I told him that my terms were essentially: $150 or move the van by midnight. I also told him that, going forward, I would only respond with payment information or information about where/how to leave the key.

He subsequently asked to call me and tried to reopen the discussion about the deadline. I declined because I did not believe there was anything further to discuss.

There is also a written agreement/contract that was previously proposed, but he never signed it. He had previously objected to the terms, so I am not relying on that unsigned agreement as the basis for what I'm doing now. I am relying on the deadlines and terms I actually communicated to him in writing.

There is an additional complication regarding ownership. My understanding is that the person whose name is actually on the title is the legal owner of the van, and that person may not be the same person who has been communicating with me about the vehicle. I don't want to make assumptions about ownership or do anything that could create criminal liability for me.

After the August 13 deadline passed, I tried to determine the proper procedure for getting the van removed.

I first contacted a towing company. I was told that they would need to run the VIN and determine whether the vehicle was stolen or otherwise had an issue before proceeding. I then contacted local law enforcement to ask about the situation. I made a report, although I had initially hoped to avoid creating a police report because I wanted to resolve the matter without involving law enforcement.

Law enforcement told me, essentially, that they would not come remove the vehicle simply because I want it off my private property. Their involvement would apparently be different if the vehicle were actually obstructing traffic or creating a traffic hazard.

I have also been researching Florida's private-property towing laws, including Florida Statute 715.07, and I'm seeing information suggesting that a vehicle parked without authorization on private residential property may be eligible for a private-property tow, with the towing company handling the impound/storage process and notifying the appropriate parties.

However, because of the title/ownership issue and because I don't want to accidentally cross the line into doing something unlawful, I am trying to get accurate advice before taking any action.

I am not looking for advice on how to retaliate against this person. I simply want the van legally removed from my property after giving him substantial notice and multiple deadlines.

My questions are:

Can I legally have the van removed through a private-property towing company under Florida law?

Does the fact that the person I've been dealing with may not be the titled owner change the process?

Am I required to provide any additional written notice at this point, given that I have months of text messages documenting the deadlines and his responses?

Does the fact that I have already contacted law enforcement and made a report change anything?

What documentation should I have ready for a towing company?

Is there anything I absolutely should not do myself to move or relocate the vehicle?

If anyone here is a Florida attorney familiar with private-property towing/abandoned vehicles, I would really appreciate clarification on the proper process.

I am trying to handle this through the proper legal channels. I don't want to damage, abandon, hide, or otherwise interfere with the vehicle. I simply need it off my property.

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u/DaOriginalJazzy1 — 6 days ago

Title: Florida van left on my private property after repeated deadlines — seeking legal guidance

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I’m in Florida and looking for general legal guidance about a van that has been left in front of my house by someone I know. I’m specifically trying to understand the lawful process for having it removed from my property without creating legal problems for myself.

Here’s the timeline as accurately as I can reconstruct it:

The van has been sitting in front of my house for months. I originally gave him notice that the van needed to be moved. I initially remembered that conversation as happening in May, but after going back through our text messages, I confirmed that I formally told him on June 14 that the van needed to be gone.

On June 14, I told him that, separate from the personal issues between us, the only remaining obligation connecting us was the van being in front of my house. He responded that he would make moving it a priority and said he would get it out of my way.

Later, he told me that he had some things to dig out and said he would be there during the second week of August to address the van. He also said he was trying to come earlier and wanted to have some money for me.

I subsequently gave him a specific deadline: August 13. I told him the van needed to be gone by that date and that, if it wasn't, I would make arrangements to have it removed by August 20. I also told him that if his plan to repair the van didn't work out, he needed to have an alternative plan for getting it off my property.

He has known for well over a month that this deadline was coming. He also knew that he was paid weekly and had previously indicated that he expected to have money for me this week. However, when the deadline arrived, he did not have the $150 I had offered as an extension/payment arrangement and the van was still there.

At this point, I told him that my terms were essentially: $150 or move the van by midnight. I also told him that, going forward, I would only respond with payment information or information about where/how to leave the key.

He subsequently asked to call me and tried to reopen the discussion about the deadline. I declined because I did not believe there was anything further to discuss.

There is also a written agreement/contract that was previously proposed, but he never signed it. He had previously objected to the terms, so I am not relying on that unsigned agreement as the basis for what I'm doing now. I am relying on the deadlines and terms I actually communicated to him in writing.

There is an additional complication regarding ownership. My understanding is that the person whose name is actually on the title is the legal owner of the van, and that person may not be the same person who has been communicating with me about the vehicle. I don't want to make assumptions about ownership or do anything that could create criminal liability for me.

After the August 13 deadline passed, I tried to determine the proper procedure for getting the van removed.

I first contacted a towing company. I was told that they would need to run the VIN and determine whether the vehicle was stolen or otherwise had an issue before proceeding. I then contacted local law enforcement to ask about the situation. I made a report, although I had initially hoped to avoid creating a police report because I wanted to resolve the matter without involving law enforcement.

Law enforcement told me, essentially, that they would not come remove the vehicle simply because I want it off my private property. Their involvement would apparently be different if the vehicle were actually obstructing traffic or creating a traffic hazard.

I have also been researching Florida's private-property towing laws, including Florida Statute 715.07, and I'm seeing information suggesting that a vehicle parked without authorization on private residential property may be eligible for a private-property tow, with the towing company handling the impound/storage process and notifying the appropriate parties.

However, because of the title/ownership issue and because I don't want to accidentally cross the line into doing something unlawful, I am trying to get accurate advice before taking any action.

I am not looking for advice on how to retaliate against this person. I simply want the van legally removed from my property after giving him substantial notice and multiple deadlines.

My questions are:

Can I legally have the van removed through a private-property towing company under Florida law?

Does the fact that the person I've been dealing with may not be the titled owner change the process?

Am I required to provide any additional written notice at this point, given that I have months of text messages documenting the deadlines and his responses?

Does the fact that I have already contacted law enforcement and made a report change anything?

What documentation should I have ready for a towing company?

Is there anything I absolutely should not do myself to move or relocate the vehicle?

If anyone here is a Florida attorney familiar with private-property towing/abandoned vehicles, I would really appreciate clarification on the proper process.

I am trying to handle this through the proper legal channels. I don't want to damage, abandon, hide, or otherwise interfere with the vehicle. I simply need it off my property.

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