u/Daniel_KOT_V2

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Subscription to hot-spot charged, but no service available. Need advice.

Just need to vent my frustration. Subscribed to multimedia Bluelink additional subscription to be able to use Hyundai HotSpot. While I was charged the full cost and subscription is active in Bluelink app, the actual service can't be activated in the car.

I have sent the error ticket to Bluelink customer service team and weekly chasing them on the progress with no luck. The response is reading like a template. "We forwarded your issue to our IT team to inspect", "The IT confirmed that service is active at you account, if you experience a problem, please send a photo". And it is like a dead loop, sent and resent photos numerous times with service not accessible.

Last time I asked to escalate this issue as a complaint and compensate for the subscription fee, as the service was not provided as stated in the package description.

The answer comes back as simple as it could be, please send your written complaint by post to the address in Germany, no email, no phone, just plain mail.

And no word about canceling or compensating the chargers for service not provided.

It's a sad surprise to see such ignorance from Hyundai. They charge you first and then not bother.

Any advice on how to resolve this is welcome. TY

u/Daniel_KOT_V2 — 10 days ago
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What Ten Days of Driving Data Taught Me About the IONIQ 9

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I pulled the trip logs covering 18–28 July 2026 — a road trip out, a quiet week at the other end, and the drive back — and the numbers told a much more interesting story than I expected.

Note: this is a snapshot, not the full trip. The trip is still ongoing, and the biggest leg is still ahead — the drive home from the Alps. So treat everything below as a mid-trip data point rather than the final picture. Once the whole journey is done, I'll pull the complete logs and publish a proper full-trip statistics post covering start to finish.

The headline numbers

Total distance covered: 2,691.1 km. Total time driving: 41h 39min, across 61 logged trips, at an average speed of around 65.5 km/h.

Worth clarifying how the energy numbers work, because it matters for what follows. "Energy used" (922.6 kWh) is the motor's gross draw — the total energy demanded for propulsion, with regen not yet subtracted. "Energy recovered" (283.0 kWh) is a separate figure: how much the car generated itself through regenerative braking and fed back into the battery. The difference between the two — 639.6 kWh — is what actually left the battery and needed replacing.

Flip that around and it's a genuinely nice way to look at the trip: of the 922.6 kWh the motor asked for, 283.0 kWh (about 31%) the car generated itself through braking and descents, and the remaining 639.6 kWh (about 69%) came from external charging — public chargers and the home wallbox. Nearly a third of the energy for this trip never touched a charging cable at all.

At an average price of €0.33 per kWh, the 639.6 kWh that actually needed paying for cost roughly €211. For comparison, if there had been no regen at all and I'd had to charge the full 922.6 kWh, the bill would have come to around €304 — meaning regen directly saved about €93 on this stretch alone.

It's also worth translating that into "batteries." The IONIQ 9's gross battery capacity is 110.3 kWh, with a real usable capacity of around 106–107 kWh depending on variant, since a small buffer is always held back to protect the pack. Our net draw from the battery over the trip was 639.6 kWh — divide that by the usable capacity and it works out to roughly 6 full 0–100% charge cycles' worth of energy passing through the battery over these 10 days, even though the actual charging sessions were shorter and more frequent than that implies.

Net efficiency over this stretch works out to around 4.19 km/kWh (≈239 Wh/km).

Even without looking at a map, the shape of the trip is obvious: two big travel days out, a week of short local hops, then two big days back.

18–19 July (outbound): 673.6 km and 648.9 km — the bulk of the motorway miles.

20–25 July (staying put): tiny local trips, 9.3–145.8 km a day.

26–27 July (return leg): 391.2 km and 591.6 km.

28 July: back to short local runs.

The discovery that actually surprised me: regen

I went in expecting regenerative braking to claw back "some" energy on a big SUV like this. What the log actually showed was more impressive than that.

Across the whole trip, 283.0 kWh came back through regen — nearly a third of everything the car used. But the standout moment was a single short trip on 24 July at 17:35: 13.0 km, and the car showed ‑0.70 kWh used against 2.94 kWh recovered. Net energy gained on a drive. That's presumably a long, well-judged downhill or a stretch of heavy braking where one-pedal driving did essentially all the work — but seeing a negative number in the "energy used" column for a 2.5-tonne-plus electric SUV genuinely made me do a double-take.

The best single-trip efficiency backs this up: a 17.5 km hop on 20 July that cost only 0.32 kWh net — about 54.7 km/kWh. Nothing exotic about that drive, just low speeds, gentle inputs, and the regen doing its job quietly in the background.

What makes that figure genuinely interesting, though, is the bigger picture behind it: almost a third of all the energy spent on propulsion, the car generated itself — from braking and descending, energy that in a normal combustion car would simply vanish as heat in the brake discs. An ICE car has no way to reuse that energy at all; it's gone the instant you brake. Here, it went straight back into the battery and directly extended the range, effectively cutting the charging bill by a third. That's arguably the single biggest structural advantage an EV has over a combustion car on a mixed trip like this: it's not just that the motor itself is more efficient — it's that energy normally wasted on every single stop is put to work extending the journey.

The other end of the scale

Motorway cruising tells the opposite story, and it's worth being honest about it. The longest single trip — 19 July, 345.6 km in 225 minutes at ~91.7 km/h average — used 75.14 kWh. And the single heaviest gross energy draw of the whole log was an 186.3 km trip on 18 July that pulled 141.32 kWh before any regen was subtracted, almost certainly sustained high-speed running.

So the range/efficiency story on this car has a very wide spread: mid-50s km/kWh pottering around town, versus something far closer to 2.4 km/kWh when it's held at motorway speeds for hours. That's not unusual for a big EV, but having the actual numbers from my own driving — rather than a manufacturer average — makes it much easier to plan a route and actually trust the range estimate.

How does this stack up against Hyundai's own numbers?

Hyundai's official WLTP figures for the IONIQ 9 quote consumption as low as 194 Wh/km (about 5.15 km/kWh) for the most efficient Long-Range RWD variant, with a WLTP range of up to 620 km from the 110.3 kWh battery. Other variants are officially rated closer to 3.01 mi/kWh (~206 Wh/km, ~4.85 km/kWh). Independent real-world testing (Parkers, on AWD models) has found something closer to 2.7 mi/kWh (~4.35 km/kWh, ~230 Wh/km) on a mixed test route.

My net figure over this stretch — 4.19 km/kWh (239 Wh/km) — lands just below that independent real-world benchmark and noticeably below the official WLTP number, which is exactly what you'd expect: WLTP is a lab cycle, and this trip skewed heavily towards sustained high-speed motorway running rather than a gentle mixed cycle. It's a good reminder that WLTP figures are a useful comparison tool between models, not a promise of what any individual trip will return — especially one bookended by two multi-hundred-kilometre motorway days.

What's more telling is the gross figure, before regen is credited back: 2.93 km/kWh (341 Wh/km). That's the number you'd see if the car couldn't recover any braking energy at all — and it shows just how much of the gap between "showroom number" and "real-world number" regen alone is clawing back on this kind of driving.

Takeaway

If you're deciding whether an EV this size makes sense for mixed motorway-and-local driving: it does, but go in with eyes open about the split. The local, low-speed days are dramatically cheap to run — practically free, some days. The motorway days are where you pay for the size and the speed. But the real takeaway from these ten days is that regen isn't a marketing footnote here — it put nearly a third of all the energy spent back into the battery, meaning a third of the charging bill was effectively paid for by the braking itself rather than the wall socket. That's exactly the energy a combustion car in the same trip would have simply burned off as heat with nothing to show for it — and it's why a mixed EV road trip ends up more efficient than it looks on paper.

Data pulled from the car's own trip log, 18–28 July 2026.

u/Daniel_KOT_V2 — 22 days ago
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IONIQ 9: Review after 5,000 miles

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Preamble

5,000 miles on the IONIQ 9 — enough to understand whether expectations match reality. Overall, they do. I have something to compare with: 6 years on Tesla, the entire lineup from Model X, S, and Y. So my opinion is well-founded.

Appearance

Controversial, but easy to get used to. And it even starts to grow on you. Still a rare specimen on the roads, but lately it's becoming more common. Every time you spot another IONIQ 9, it's an event.

Dynamics and Handling

More than enough. Haven't tried the Sport mode yet, but in regular mode the car drives like a good sports car. You constantly have to remind yourself that the weight and inertia of the machine can significantly increase the braking distance.

The IONIQ 9 is definitely a highway car. That's its element. On the motorway, everything is there: comfort, silence, and power. Plenty of everything.

Fuel Consumption and Efficiency

Tricky business. The most efficient temperature is +24°C. The car comfortably gets 300 W/mile even at speeds of 70–80 mph. In normal temperature, around the city, consumption stays in the range of 230–250 W/mile.

With a 100+ kWh battery, this gives a range of 250–320 miles on a single charge. For a car with a dry weight under 3.5 tons — quite acceptable.

Comfort and Sound

The cabin is very quiet. With music on, it becomes a concert hall inside.

The number of options and assistance systems is enormous: massages, sunroof with blind, everything you need. Basically, a small house on wheels.

Minor Annoying Things

Plastic everywhere

The Koreans cut corners on the little things. Lots of bare and thin plastic inside. Because of this, enjoying the quiet is somewhat problematic. Any little thing in the tray, in the doors, in the center console, or cup holders easily turns into an annoying noise. I even had to buy felt to line the trays. There are plenty of them all over the car.

Assistance systems are too sensitive

When maneuvering in parking lots, exits, or narrow roads, the distance sensor may decide that it's not enough and simply stop the car, hitting the brakes for you. On the one hand, with the large dimensions, this should help avoid scratches, but often there's more than enough space.

The same applies to the eye-tracking system. Any diversion of the eyes longer than two seconds — the system starts demanding you not get distracted from the road. There are even paradoxical situations: when turning the wheel, the side spoke blocks the eye-tracking camera, the car panics, even though you have no intention of getting distracted.

ADAS lags behind Tesla

Even Tesla's basic cruise works better. On the highway, there's not much confidence. Sometimes it loses the plot and starts weaving across the lane, looking like a drunk driver. The system can be significantly improved with an additional device, but it's expensive and not critical for now.

High wheel flare height — a real plus

Where I used to guarantee scraping the wheel rim on Tesla, here I just roll through and slip by. Rims without a single scratch. Tesla owners will understand.

Serious Problems

Software — a sore subject

Despite no complaints about the hardware (Koreans really know how to build cars), there are many questions about the software.

Android Auto glitches constantly

The most unpleasant thing is that Android Auto occasionally crashes. This is a Hyundai glitch that they've been fighting in every firmware update and still can't fix. Sometimes everything works smoothly for weeks. And sometimes it gets stuck in an endless loop of connection and disconnection. I'm inclined to think it's weather-related.

Phone overheating on the charger

A huge problem. Android Auto requires serious performance from your phone, which causes it to heat up. Additional heat from the wireless charger really warms it up. After that, a message appears on the screen about phone performance issues.

The only thing that helps is moving the phone to the air vent. Looks awkward, haven't found a better alternative for a phone holder yet.

Door Locking — an anti-feature

Hyundai continues to lock you inside the car. If you lock the car from the app or keyfob, you cannot get out — not at all. The door opening buttons inside stop working. The door handles from inside and even from outside don't work either.

I don't know why Hyundai does this, but the same thing happened on all previous generations of IONIQ. I even filed a complaint with them, but never got a response.

Door closing is a whole separate story, which I've already written about in earlier posts.

Matte Paint

The matte finish makes me happy. I'm not particularly careful with paintwork — scratches appear with enviable regularity. But matte paint forgives me for this.

Summary

Nothing has broken, and that's a relief. In a week, I'm heading on vacation with a couple thousand additional miles. Let's see how it all goes.

The IONIQ 9 is a good car. The hardware is solid. The software needs work, but that's a matter of time. Serious issues like door locking — that's more a question of corporate philosophy than engineering. But overall? I recommend it. Especially if you're not fussy about every scratch and are willing to let the car teach you to drive better.

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u/Daniel_KOT_V2 — 2 months ago