Bunk never knew the reason behind Omar's new kill list, he believed Omar went back on his word just because he couldn't stop himself from going back on the hunt. He only came back for one reason, and one reason only, to avenge Butchie. I think it would have softened Bunk's view of him had he known.

I know that's the part of the show, none of the "game" is supposed to be glorified but man... It made Omar's death so much harder for me.

Anomander Rake is a better swordsman than the Traveller!

I know this debate will never end... But to me it's just plain to see. Rake was HEAVILY disadvantaged going into the fight, he was exhausted from holding Hood, using Dragnipur which was an unwieldy, heavy blade along with it holding the souls of millions on top of Hood which made it feel much heavier, and actively wanted to lose.

I don't really consider the Seguleh aspect too fair because Rake just showed up and started fighting them because he got bored then casually went up to 7th. Traveller went with the goal of becoming number 1. Rake knew absolutely nothing about the Seguleh at all whatsoever and just started fighting.

I know, I know "dice roll". But to me evidence from the books shows more than some dice roll, I mean he perfectly predicted how the Traveller would strike and blocked accordingly to get the exact cut needed so he'd die by his own blade. I think if he were trying to win, not holding back, he'd win for sure.

I don't think any other character in the verse could beat Dassem either, even Karsa kinda admits he's inferior to them "only a fool would get between those two."

I absolutely think there's people that get close but none that can actually beat these two.

Thoughts? Am I on some bs or do I have something here? Lemme know.

This is a ranking to see which can resist the One Ring's corruption.

It should look like:

"1. Goku

2. Darth Vader

3. Etc."

Rules: Characters have to do it through Willpower, not beating Sauron's ass or killing/banishing him. They also can't destroy the Ring for at least 6 months and must carry it with them for that time.

They are not being hunted by the Nazgul, this is about corruption, not execution or being hunted.

Here are the characters:

Goku (DB)

Star-Lord (MCU)

Captain America (Steve Rogers, MCU)

Batman (DCAU)

Obi-Wan Kenobi (Star Wars)

Last Dragonborn (Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim)

Doom Slayer (DOOM)

Zack Fair (Final Fantasy VII)

He-Man (He-Man and the Masters of the Universe)

Yugi Moto (Yu-Gi-Oh)

Ash Ketchum (Pokemon)

Sora (Kingdom Hearts)

I have a nephew, he LOVES No Man's Sky, the problem is that it's extremely expensive, I already own it on several platforms... SO I figured I could buy the physical cartridge, upgrade to Switch 2 using Digital Upgrade which a lot of Switch games have, then I still have the physical Switch 1 game for myself.

He gets the Switch 2 version, I get the Switch 1 version, we both win.

They go their separate ways, credits end, fade-out, the usual.

"Two Days Later".

Apparently the three separate paths were on the same path to the same noodle shop, they all exchange classic anime annoyed looks, yell that echoes into the sky.

Followed by heard bickering that then ends the actual series.

The show has been teaching us that every single time they try to abandon each other, it doesn't work. It's also not some big dramatic show, every time it gets too dramatic with the main characters, it subverts it.

I just think it would be absolutely hilarious, if not fitting for the show, if they had this big dramatic goodbye only for it to be entirely subverted with meeting up two days or not even a day later.

Battle takes place in a Gladiatorial Arena, with thousands of screaming fans.

Round 1: Strict sword fight, in character.

Round 2: Anything goes, all-out, composite, bloodlusted.

Bonus round: Stats equalized, each gets their non-magical weapon of choice.

Who is the most skilled swordsman here!

Battle takes place in an open field barren field.

Round 1: Mage Arisen vs Episode 1 Samurai Jack

Round 2: Fighter Arisen vs EoS Samurai Jack

Round 3: Assassin Arisen vs EoS Samurai Jack with all his extra weapons from the 50 year Time-Skip

Both are given their best stuff for each round.

Who wins?

I am not genuinely whining about not having King Kong, but he's the only one I'd consider we need left.

Give us him, his rival from Godzilla x Kong, and Shimo from Godzilla x Kong, then we'll be good imo.

I'm just curious about this, I believe Sofiah potentially loses to Grigori unless we're meant to believe she somehow got to live out their life peacefully, and somehow managed to die of old age???

With it just being heavily implied the Dragonforged lost or stalemated Grigori, are there any who: Chose to fight a Great Dragon after their journey but got their shit pushed in regardless because they didn't train hard enough?

As we know we have the two types of willpower, the actual power of the Arisen which is levels, and the overall training part which is discipline points, vocation ranks, learned skills and augments.

I just have a hard time believing that "choosing to fight" is the sole thing that allows an Arisen to be able to beat a Great Dragon, whether it's a test of will or not. Maybe they focused too much on "levels" and not enough on skills and augments, idk.

To be honest, the reason why I prefer it so much is because the first game feels like OUR story throughout. The entire journey focuses on something related to the Dragon or trying to stop us specifically. Even in sidequests we are recognized as the Arisen, we still are a fundamental part of each story beat and sidequest.

In DD2 we are not the main focus, we are sidelined to "investigator" for the majority of the game. Sure we're investigating so we can inherit the throne, but for the most part we're just solving Vermund's problems in BOTH cases. The Dragon takes a massive backseat. Even when doing busywork in DD1, it still revolved around our confrontation with the Dragon. Edmun was leading us on a wild goose chase, stalling us so we didn't have time to confront the Dragon.

Even in Unmoored we're still working to the beats of the others, we have no agency. We are working for the Pathfinder or Rothais, we get help at every venture, some piece of information, etc.

In DD1 we have all the agency in the world, even in Dark Arisen when it's not about us we still feel important. Hell even the initial Dragon Fight in DD1 made us feel a lot cooler because we got to experience it, and it was an actual fight. Fisherman (us) ran in with a sword, guards ran off, we actually tried to stab Grigori's hand. In DD2 we get burned alive with no real effort or being able to fight the Dragon and we have help/distractions.

The biggest mockery of our importance is the Gigantus fight.... WE WEREN'T EVEN NEEDED!! We were just a MEAT SHIELD! Something to throw in front of the Gigantus and if we can't stop it "Nah it's fine, don't worry about it." It's even worse since they absolutely refuse to fight back.

In DD1 we are someone special, a person who thrives in all of the harshest environments, they go into a dark tower whistling with a smirk, while onlookers cheer them. In DD2 no one cares about you and what you're doing. You can save someone's life in the game and while they're grateful in the moment they just act so rude and entitled to you later on, if they even care to acknowledge you at all.

Really in DD2 you are just finishing what the DD: DA Arisen and Daimon started. Daimon started a rebellion, DD: DA Arisen escalated the rebellion, Rothais and the DD2 Arisen are just finishing what was started long ago.

All-in-All, DD1 makes you FEEL like a force of nature, DD2 makes you feel like a mercenary.

So uh yeah, I messed up the Willhelmina quest and figured giving Isaac the false Grimoire would make him grateful to me therefore he'd be happy to hire Hugo on.

Apparently Isaac has to die and Willhelmina needs to escape safely? I'm not sure why that makes a difference because there's still an opening at the Bordelrie.

I'm hoping we can reach 10 million, just to even cross that milestone.

This is according to Capcom's official website by the way: 4.30 + 2.60 + 1.30 + 1.30 = 9.50

I do want to see Dragon's Dogma 2 continue to get numbers as well, but with the first game (and the re-releases) reaching that level, I just want us to get there at some point.

I'm almost certain it's from the 2020's, likely FROM a show, movie, or game.

The song has a kind of reverb and bass, and it's kinda played during a cool or bad-ass moment.

It's not Witch Doctor, Runaway, Hideaway, Million Voices, etc.

Not Brighter Days, not Hideaway, not Runaway, not Witch Doctor. Likely a theme from a show or etc.

No it's not that cat song either.

I am absolutely beyond livid right now. I started "Every Rose Has Its Thorn".

So everything was going fine, I asked Google for help during... What it told me was to give the murder report to Willhelmina FIRST THEN get the Bribery Report after saying "Continue to assist till the end."

So I panicked as she said we were about to do the assassination, jumped out the building to try to get the Bribery Report, handed it to Brant.

Brant secured his aid, okay cool. NOW I can get back to talk to Willhelmina, especially since the quest updated.

Even if I didn't secure Brant's help, she still got the evidence, her name should be cleared, she should be FINE, RIGHT?

WRONG apparently. I am so sick of this game having 57 different endings for each quest and if you get the wrong one a character either permanently dies or gets arrested. Now I have to NG+ just to do one thing different so I get the good ending.

For anyone questioning, I love this game, I have hundreds of hours into it. I was a huge DD:DA Veteran, with nearly or over 2000 hours into the original game across all platforms. I even own the Switch version. But this right here was my breaking point, as someone who is a Completionist this was the straw that broke the camel's back.

I couldn't even get into the fucking room to save her nor could I interact with the painting to see into the room. Livid is not even the word.

I've been doing tedious quest after tedious quest. All of this was so much more manageable in the first game.

Oh and not to mention, when they say "last inn rested at" they include your house in that. How was I supposed to know that?

Right before this I did the Fulvio sculpture quest and it went amazingly, I prepped by placing a portcrystal at the Medusa's lair and a portcrystal at the Griffin's nest. That one was by far the most tedious because we DO NOT HAVE AN ETERNAL FERRYSTONE, FOR NO REASON!!!

I even did all of the Sphinx puzzles including the first seeker token one! I was so scared I was gonna fail it but I got it.

NPC's do not respawn in a game that desperately NEEDS respawning NPC's!!!!!! No, we have to waste our hard-earned wakestones on random NPC's because if we don't they'll die permanently. This didn't happen to me thankfully but "WTF DO YOU MEAN BEREN DIED?!?!?! WHAT THE FUCK?!?!"

It's like do I save the Wakestones, do I waste an Eternal Wakestone one time in the morgue of that town that time?? When do I use the Eternal Wakestone?

I have no intention of letting Dragonsplague end any town no matter what so do I sell it or keep it??

I had spent time researching every quest I've been doing and my one slip up is because I used Google.

I get it's my own fault but if this were DD1, all I'd have to do is hand the evidence over and it'd all be good, there wouldn't be all these extra steps.

The only one even slightly as annoying as this is Aelinore's questline. But DD:DA was less offensive in this regard because it was significant smaller and there's only 2 towns. It's easy to 100% complete DD1 due to the smaller size and short story.

But this game has 85 quests, 61 being sidequests, with multiple quests taking you across the map and back again, and this map is MASSIVE, and it isn't like the first game where you could at least buy Ferrystones at the Black Cat. In this game you just have to hope you can find Ferrystones or have them delivered to one of your houses.

I'm happy we got the open world we wanted, but we needed serious fast travel this time, and we needed FAR more enemies types.

Didn't know whether to put this under Humor or General Discussion. Figured it's more funny than discussion so yeah, though if it's wrong I could take it.

Moral of the story, Google is not your friend.

Sword of Superman (DC Comics)

Triforce (Legend of Zelda)

Godsbane (Dragon's Dogma)

Infinity Gauntlet (Marvel Comics)

Blade of Olympus (God of War)

Akashic Records (Vampire Hunter D)

Elder Scrolls (Elder Scrolls)

White Lantern Ring (DC Comics)

Super Dragon Balls (Dragon Ball)

Now this will not be a traditional battle, so here is how we'll do it:

In terms of creation and destruction, what are its capabilities?

Does it carry its power equally between everyone?

Can it function outside of its original universe?

What can it do to the other weapons and artifacts on the list?

Lemme know what you think, and discuss!

In the beginning, there was Oblivion, complete non-existence and Void, then came the Great Will, and with it came true existence, life. They established the order of things, the endless cycle of the worlds that allows the worlds themselves to exist.

The cycle of Eternal Return: Seneschal, Dragon, and Arisen. All things follow this transcendental law. The Arisen being the force of Will that drives the world to continue, the pawns that guide them to their destiny, and the Dragon representing Oblivion.

The Seneschal being the absolute administrator of existence, ensuring this cycle continues... The Seneschal sends a Great Dragon to find a being of unbreakable, endless Will. The Arisen is chosen, their heart stolen, they receive a guide called a pawn through the rift, the gate between worlds. They must go on to defeat the Dragon or bargain with it to stay the end of the world. This is the nature of things, there is always either a defeat or a bargain.

The one who defeats the Dragon goes on to potentially face the Seneschal himself, and a duel ensues to see whose Will is greater. If the Arisen wins, they become the new Seneschal, the grand overseer of all existence. If the Seneschal wins, the Arisen they fought becomes the new Dragon.

When an Arisen (likely of strong will) dies, their pawn takes on their physical form, and they gain free will, this is called the Bestowal of Spirit.

To ensure that Arisen cannot ignore their destiny, the Brine is also established. It's a direct tool of the Great Will that ensures all beings follow their path.

Thus the cycle continues, forever and ever.

(There are two versions of Savan's story, but as the digital comic seems the primary canon, I'm going with that instead. Though the novel contains supplementary information we can use.)

Sometime later, however much later no one can really say, we come across a man named Savan, he is the earliest true Arisen we yet know of (Godking Leonart being a pretender). Savan was a knight hailing from the City of Viete, in the service of Godking Leonart, a former Arisen himself allegedly said to have slain a Dragon 50 years beforehand. His city burnt to the ground, his father killed by the Great Dragon of his time, leading Savan to lash out in combat. This culminates in the Dragon stealing his heart.

Savan wakes up to a pawn named Morgana, who acts as a guide, leading him to a Riftstone where his own pawn Salde is created.

He embarks on a quest with his pawn Salde, to save the world from the Great Dragon of Legend. He succeeds, the Dragon dies.

And countless lifetimes come to pass...

Sometime much later, an Arisen named Grette from another world, a hundred lifetimes before the events of the first game, is chosen by her world's Dragon. She has her pawn Olra, and a ward named Ashe. Grette goes on to slay a Great Dragon, but ultimately loses in a duel against the Seneschal, becoming a Dragon herself. In her absolute last act as a free-thinking being, she chooses to find Ashe and make him the next Arisen.

Olra, losing her master, has started to undergo the Bestowal of Spirit, becoming a more free-thinking being, she shows up to Ashe, distressed, broken. Ashe is confused, but still soon found himself entranced by her, smitten by her.

At some point Ashe is found by Grette, now a Dragon, and it is presumed Ashe fought her, as all Arisen do, though he doesn't yet know that she's the Dragon.

Olra gives herself over to Ashe, chooses to be his pawn just as much as he chose her to be his. In short order they fall in love and he takes her as his beloved. His one true love.

Their adventures finally culminate in a final confrontation with the Dragon who shows mild reluctance in her tone, as well as the sound of her voice. They know it true, Grette is the Dragon, their former Master.

Ashe is given a choice far too cruel to make, he rants and raves, cursing everything, the cycle himself, and in his rage he makes a wish, which the Dragon treats as a bargain.

"If this be the will of the Gods, the order of the whole world, then damn the lot of them! I'LL TEAR THE WHOLE OF IT ASUNDER!"

This is the first time the nature of the universe known as the cycle is defied, and with his wish being granted, Olra is killed as payment, and he's transformed into a horrible demonic being hellbent on destruction, a being known as Daimon.

Daimon creates the labyrinthine halls known as Bitterblack Isle, a horrible place made of pure despair and hatred, draped into perpetual darkness, meant to lure Arisen to it and kill them. Daimon succeeds, countless Arisen are killed on the island, and countless more after that still.

Eventually, an Arisen named Arthacos comes to the island, and, though he came to the Island with noble intentions, the halls begin to drive him mad, corrupting his mind. He loses his sanity completely at some point and integrates with the island directly, becoming the entity known as Death. He travels the island looking for Arisen to kill as blood sacrifices, misguided in his belief that this will somehow satiate the Dragon.

There is another Arisen, also named Olra similar to the pawn Olra in appearance, who ends up dying on Bitterblack Isle, though important to the timeline, we never learn her true origins but at some point she ends up harboring the soul of the original pawn Olra.

Back in the world of Gransys, an Arisen named Grigori takes up arms, kills their Great Dragon, and goes on to face the Seneschal. Unfortunately, they fail and are made a Dragon... This is the main dragon of the first Dragon's Dogma.

At some point after they become a Dragon, 1000 years before the beginning of our playable Arisen's story, an unnamed Arisen was chosen by Grigori. They go on to fight the Dragon, however their weapon breaks and they are forced to retreat, retreating deep into the forest on a hill, where they eventually establish their home as a guide to future Arisen, this being comes to be known as The Dragonforged, a font of knowledge regarding Dragons. Their pawn draws their Arisen's image in battle upon the hill, and the place becomes known as Hillfigure Knoll.

Getting closer to our story, 50 years before the events of the main story, we come across another Arisen, Edmun.

(This will be an ongoing project, if anyone has any questions, objections, or suggestions I'd really appreciate it! It is unlikely to be finished very soon, but it will be done eventually, so please bear with me. Thanks for reading regardless!)

This will be a stats equalized battle, meaning no extra BS just swordsmanship.

In the case of characters having multiple classes, we'll assume they use a sword class (Dovahkiin only gets swords, no magic, or shouts. Arisen is restricted to Fighter, Warrior, etc. Tarnished gets no staves or etc.)

All weapons are equalized meaning no lightsabers cutting through swords or shields, armor is fair game though.

In the case of characters needing their "powers" to be physically -abled like Count Dooku, that's fine. No offensive or defensive applications of said powers though.

Any knowledge or questlines or otherwise that have to be done to put a character at their best is done here, they are all at their absolute peak skill level.

Precognition is allowed.

All characters are in character.

Yes I know there are characters from the same universe but it is every man for themselves.

Characters:

Count Dooku (Star Wars, Legends)

Mace Windu (Star Wars, Legends)

Gimli (LOTR)

Legolas (LOTR)

Aragorn (LOTR)

Geralt of Rivia (Witcher, Composite)

Raiden (Metal Gear)

Jetstream Sam (Metal Gear)

Dovahkiin/TLD (Elder Scrolls)

Hero of Kvatch/Champion of Cyrodiil (Elder Scrolls)

The Nerevarine (Elder Scrolls)

Ra's Al Ghul (DC Comics)

Deathstroke (DC Comics)

Samurai Jack (Samurai Jack)

Piandao (Avatar: The Last Airbender)

Sephiroth (Original FFVII timeline)

Warrior of Light (FFXIV)

Frog (Chrono Trigger)

Adol Christin (Ys)

Guts (Berserk)

Griffith/Femto (Berserk)

Skull Knight (Berserk)

Kenshin Himura (Rurouni Kenshin)

Hiko Seijuro (Rurouni Kenshin)

Seta Sojiro (Rurouni Kenshin)

Henry of Skalitz (Kingdom Come: Deliverance)

The Arisen (Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen)

The Arisen (Dragon's Dogma 2)

Achilles (Troy)

Spartacus (STARZ Spartacus)

Maximus (Gladiator)

Spartacus (300)

The Warden (Dragon Age: Origins)

Marth (Fire Emblem)

Chrom (Fire Emblem)

Ike (Fire Emblem)

The Tarnished (Elden Ring)

Chosen Undead (Dark Souls)

The Hunter (Bloodborne)

Knight Artorias (Dark Souls, Pre-Corrupted)

Sekiro (Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice)

Ashen One (Dark Souls)

Kliff (Crimson Desert)

Atomic Samurai (One Punch Man)

Roronoa Zoro (One Piece)

Dracula Mihawk (One Piece)

Sasuke Uchiha (Naruto)

Killer Bee (Naruto)

Zabuza (Naruto)

Orochimaru (Naruto)

Madara Uchiha (Naruto)

Inigo Montoya (Princess Bride)

Saber/Artorias Pendragon (Fate)

Wesley/Dread Pirate Roberts (Princess Bride)

Ichigo Kurosaki (Bleach)

Byakuya Kuchiki (Bleach)

Kenpachi Zaraki (Bleach)

Suzaku Kururugi (Code Geass)

Lan Mandragoran (Wheel of Time)

Afro (Afro Samurai)

Sir Lancelot (Excalibur)

Arthur Dayne (ASOIAF)

Barristan Selmy (ASOIAF)

Jaime Lannister (ASOIAF)

Jon Snow (ASOIAF)

Nanashi (Sword of the Stranger)

Yoriichi Tsugikuni (Demon Slayer)

Yami Sukehiro (Black Clover)

Gintoki (Gintama)

Black Knight (Marvel)

Deadpool (Marvel)

Silver Samurai (Marvel)

Zorro (Zorro)

Duncan Idaho (Dune)

Paul Atreides (Dune)

Jack Sparrow (Pirates of the Caribbean)

Hector Barbossa (Pirates of the Caribbean)

Will Turner (Pirates of the Caribbean)

Davy Jones (Pirates of the Caribbean)

Altair ibn la-ihad (Assassin's Creed)

Ezio Auditore da Firenze (Assassin's Creed)

Connor Kenway (Assassin's Creed)

Edward Kenway (Assassin's Creed)

Desmond Miles (Assassin's Creed)

Alucard (Castlevania)

Goblin Slayer (Goblin Slayer)

I already know that this is incredibly overwhelming so I chose not to make the list any longer, and I purposefully tried to leave out people that would make this a boring and objectively unfair debate. Including Miyamoto Musashi from Vagabond for example leaves absolutely no room for debate.