u/Dawny15

How do we get both sides of the political spectrum outside of their echo chambers.

It seems like most democrats (But not all) are completely Anti-Trump no matter what he does.
And it seems like most republicans (Or at least the ones who are the loudest, similar to democrats) are entirely Anti-Dem. And both sides seem to exist in an echo chamber, unwilling/unable to accept that both parties have their advantages/disadvantages, and that being a member of a political party should not automatically make you some sort of evil, corrupt, or whatever.

It seems like both sides just believe whatever biased media they can find, or they just read an article and assume it to be true, without actually doing critical research/thinking before presenting a case (I’ll admit I’m guilty of this on muitiple occasions. I used to fully support Trump, until I took a step back, and did a long, objective analysis of his presidency, and realized he wasn’t really helping the American people the way I thought he was.)

So I’d genuinely like to hear any solutions people have to this?

I’ve had extremeist opinions from some friends like saying people should have to take a class on political science before gaining the right to vote (Which I think is wrong for about 100 reasons, but I digress)
But what do you guys think?

Now let me start off by saying I’m not naive. I completely understand that racism is still an issue in America, and likely will continue to be, because the media continues to push narratives aimed at provoking people into fighting each other, among other things.

Racism is defined as the discrimination of a group of people based on Skin color. Historically, we saw this take form in Slavery, and then Segregation, as well as Jim Crow Laws and others. However, in today’s society, racism doesn’t “exist” like it did back then. Sure it’s transferred to different issues that NEED to be addressed. But people don’t walk into the streets calling for black people (Or ANY people) to be enslaved, segregated, or locked up, solely off of their skin color.

However. Black people still suffer in modern day America despite changes made to make their lives better. How? Well let’s talk about it.

Firstly, Black Americans spent hundreds of years (several generations) building up the Wealth of white Americans. That is several generations of wealth that SOME (But not all) white Americans have on black Americans. Additionally, due to black American not receiving education during these times, a lot of them suffered from not being able to pass down valuable life experiences, knowledge, or lessons. Certain white Americans IGNORE this fact, which allows prejudice to continue to exit.

Conversely, certain black Americans living in today’s society believe that all white Americans are inherently evil, or racist. Which isn’t just untrue, it is racist in and of itself. Additionally, certain black Americans believe that because of what they were forced to suffer years ago, they cannot be racist to white Americans, which is also UNTRUE. Racism doesn’t include an exception clause. It’s not a “case by case” situation. It exists regardless of your race, and the person your discrimination is targeted at.

All this said, black people unfortunately still DO experience racism in America in ways that as white Americans, we may be unable to realize. But, I would argue this is not due to people actually being racist, but more due to how people were raised and taught. People are not fresh out the womb going “there’s a black man, I hate that black man!” No, they’re TAUGHT that hating Black man or hating White man or Asian man = GOOD! And this is continually reinforced until it becomes fact for them. And ALL races have people who do this. It isn’t “just white people” or “just black people” it isn’t even a majority of either race. It’s a very, VERY small minority.

The problem is our media (and politicians) do literally EVERYTHING in their power to drive White against Black. And it works, because of what has happened historically between white people and black people. Take George Floyd. A TRULY horrific case of police brutality. But it was NOT a racially based murder. It was a murder because a police officer felt disrespected, and felt he had to assert his power, because his ego got insulted. If the police officer was black, would there be people rioting in the streets screaming racial injustice? No. Proof of this is evident in the case of Tyre Nichols, a 29 Year old black man who was pulled over, tased, paper sprayed, and several injured, dying DAYS later from his injuries. But we heard NO riots (especially not on the scale of the George Floyd riots.) Those police officers were all on power trips, just like the cop that killed Floyd, but they were labeled as “racists”. This is one example of how media negatively influences our perspectives on situations. It is so incredibly easy to just blame race for everything, that we don’t even stop to consider others reasons it could be.

Or let’s look at the more recent “Gerrymandering” of Tennessee, removing the last “black voter” area by turning Memphis into a republican primary area. This has NOTHING to do with race. This has EVERYTHING to do with republicans trying to keep themselves on top in terms of congressional power, but media are trying to push the narrative that this was a “racially motivated move.” It isn’t. It’s horrific, and wrong, and shouldn’t be happening (But I’m not here to argue politics) but what it is not, is racist.

Let’s phrase the gerrymandering question this way: Does the act of making Memphis a “red area” stop black people from voting. Does it somehow pass any sort of ordinance making it harder for black people to vote? Does it add enforcement, or allow gangs to stalk, harass, kill, maime, or otherwise harm black voters? No. No it doesn’t. Because it isn’t a “race thing” it’s a political move.

We can even go to ICE. ICE is deporting immigrants/persons who came here illegally. While yes, a majority of said immigrants are of Central American/Mexican descent, NOT all deportations are. Because again, it isn’t about RACE, it’s about politics. (I’m not agreeing or condoning ices actions, nor justifying them. I’m point out it is NOT a race issue.) Yet people are in outrage screaming this is a “race thing”. It literally is NOT. You know what IS a race thing? Trying to teach critical race theory propaganda, or pushing to get that bs taught in schools. (THANKFULLY no president has tried to push to have this taught in schools.)

There’s is so much more I’d like to say on this, but I’ve already said a lot. I’m completely open to discussions, as I know there’s tons of perspectives on this I haven’t seen, haven’t heard, haven’t considered. Please drop your perspectives and whether or not you agree. If you’re disrespectful, or disingenuous, I won’t bother to reply to you.

So my father’s birthday is coming up (May 20th) and he really likes steak. So I’m trying to find a good steak spot that isn’t wallet breaking (Under 150$ for 2, preferably) I don’t mind going as far out As Southhaven or Horn Lake, or Downtown or wherever, I’m hust look for a really good place to get Steak

You can’t claim you’re “staying silent to not offend” while oftentimes being the main people stirring the pot

You can’t claim “equality” while trying to ban every way a trans-person has to reaffirm themselves.

You can’t claim you’re “America first” while supporting a war that is active hurting Americans.

You can’t claim to “hate pedos” when you actively voted one who (Is at the BARE Minimum) HIGHLY suspicious of being one.

You can’t call for harsher punishments on rioters against ICE but then ask for pardons on January 6th rioters

You can’t claim to be “for the people” if you’re actively trashing anyone not part of your cult

You can’t claim to care about woman while voting a misogynist as your president!

(Please let me know if I missed any!)

Democrat Double Standards:

Claims to be the party of “human rights” but supports the termination of humans (Also the party that just got exposed for funding the KKK)

Can’t call for defunding of police then expect them to show up when you need them (Not all democrats think this, but enough do I add it)

Can’t demand wide open borders and say no one is illegal on stolen land then lock your own doors and erect fences on your properties.

You can’t claim to be for woman’s rights and then try to erase woman’s sports and private spaces (By making every space a “Trans space”)

You can’t preach tolerance then cancel anyone/everyone who disagrees with you

You can’t demand equality but also demand special treatment based on gender or race

Can’t scream my body my choice then try to force vaccines on everyone

Can’t claim to be anti-fascist while using fascist tactics to silence dissent

Can’t preach body positivity while also promoting surgeries that mutilate healthy body parts

Just a couple of Double Standards I’ve seen on the Liberal side. Come back for PT2 where I do republicans next! (they also ain’t getting spared)

Women who are “Pro-Choice” will praise women who get abortions because they’re doing what’s best for themselves. But these same women will often criticize men who leave their children because they’re doing what’s best for them?

And I’ve heard hundreds of times “It’s not the same” and you’re absolutely right it isn’t. One is effectively ending a life, one is walking away from one.

Here’s what I mean.

Extremists republicans who believe Trump is god

Extremists democrats who believe that opposing Trump no matter what he says or does, or believe in absolute socialism/communism (a marginal percentage, but loud enough they overshadow the more moderate democrats.)

Extremists LGTBQ+’s who believe in things like allowing sexual reassignment surgery in children is okay, or trying to imprison/fine people for misgendering them.

BLM Extremists who believe burning down businesses and starting riots is helping their cause. (I.e the George Floyd riots.)

These extremists (Also called Radicals) are the exact reason why so many people oppose some of these groups so strongly. The entire party isn’t bad. Only the extremists of these groups are, and they’re making any person who’s apart of that group look bad in the eyes of others.

(I’m a Libertarian Republican, at least so my political test seem to say. I only say this because any time I make a post even slightly relating to politics, I get questioned non-stop what my political affiliation is. Also, I don’t support about 99% of what Trump has done, but not because I disagree with what he’s doing in theory, but rather because his application of what he’s done so far with most things has been absolutely atrocious. ((I.e ICE))

And to the people who I already know that will comment that extremists in their party “don’t exist”. Just because you bury your head and look the other way when it comes to your specific party, does not mean those things just “don’t happen” if I can be critical and can admit that my party has extremists (MAGAs) then so can you.