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Highschool student trying to write a lab report. Why does eddy current braking seem to decrease exponentially with magnet distance?

I've been doing a small experiment with eddy current braking and I'm confused about the theory.

The setup is pretty simple: an aluminum disk is spun using a rotary motion sensor, and I hold a stationary rectangular neodymium magnet above the disk. The only thing I change is the vertical distance between the bottom of the magnet and the top of the disk (2 cm to 4 cm). I then measure the angular deceleration over the same angular velocity interval each time (20–25 rad/s).

The average decelerations I got were roughly:

  • 2.0 cm → 20.24 rad/s^(2)
  • 2.5 cm → 12.63 rad/s^(2)
  • 3.0 cm → 5.99 rad/s^(2)
  • 3.5 cm → 3.09 rad/s^(2)
  • 4.0 cm → 1.92 rad/s^(2)

The weird thing is that an exponential trendline fits almost perfectly (R^(2) ≈ 0.99).

I understand the basic mechanism:

  • changing flux induces eddy currents,
  • the eddy currents create a magnetic field opposing the change,
  • the interaction with the permanent magnet creates the braking torque.

I've also seen derivations that the braking force is proportional to vB^(2), so the magnetic field is clearly the important quantity.

What I don't understand is where an exponential dependence on separation would come from physically.

Most explanations I find assume the magnet behaves like a dipole and use something like B**∝**1/r^(3), but my magnet is a rectangular neodymium magnet and the distances are only 2–4 cm from the disk, so I'm not sure that approximation is even valid.

Is there a better expression for the magnetic field of a permanent magnet in this regime? Or is it more likely that the exponential fit is just approximating the actual field over a small range of distances?

I'm mainly looking for the physics behind it rather than curve-fitting advice. If anyone knows a derivation or a good reference on eddy-current brakes with permanent magnets, I'd really appreciate it.

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u/DependentDoubt6108 — 3 days ago
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Weird results with KMnO₄ + oxalic acid autocatalytic reaction (0.4 M slower than 0.1 M and 1 M?)

I'm doing an IB Chemistry IA involving the oxidation of oxalic acid by potassium permanganate in acidic conditions and I'm trying to understand whether my results make chemical sense.

I'm using a colorimeter and measuring absorbance vs time.

For each trial, my mixture is:

  • 2.0 mL oxalic acid (variable concentration: 0.1 M, 0.4 M or 1.0 M)
  • 0.5 mL H₂SO₄ (1.0 M)
  • 0.5 mL KMnO₄ (0.002 M)

Total volume = 3.0 mL.

The 0.1 M, 0.4 M and 1.0 M oxalic acid solutions were all diluted from the same 1.0 M stock solution.

I originally increased the KMnO₄ concentration because my absorbance curves were almost linear and I was trying to observe autocatalytic behaviour.

The issue is that 0.4 M consistently behaves oddly. The 0.1 M and 1.0 M trials behave relatively normally, but 0.4 M repeatedly gives a slower absorbance decrease than 0.1 M.

I've repeated the 0.4 M trials multiple times and obtained similar results.

I'm aware this reaction is autocatalytic due to the formation of Mn²⁺, so I'm wondering:

Is there any chemically plausible reason why an intermediate oxalic acid concentration (0.4 M) would consistently react more slowly than both 0.1 M and 1.0 M, or is this most likely experimental error?

Also, could insufficient acidity (0.5 mL of 1.0 M H₂SO₄) contribute to this behaviour, or would that not explain a single concentration behaving anomalously?

I'm trying to determine whether this is a chemically explainable trend or whether oxalic acid concentration is simply a poor independent variable for my IA.

(I'm attaching the absorbance vs time graph as well.)

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u/DependentDoubt6108 — 17 days ago