1st Demon king Amur Veewither

When Amur descends into the Abyssal World for the first time, did he used <Egil Grone Angdroa> or <Egilz Groa Avuushade> to blow away the chaotic galaxy? Does <Egilz Groa Avuushade> draws power from Maelstrom?

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u/Devourer2005 — 5 days ago

The Child of Evil

What do you all think about Murga's backstory? How powerful can be full potential Murga since he's Spawn of Abyss born from Chasm of Abyssal World?

u/Devourer2005 — 9 days ago

True Emperor Eizel

Source: MGK LN Vol 17

Chapter 16: Justice & Evil &...

Chapter 37: Together on a Dark Path

My question, if we look at Eizel's feats completely, doesn't it mean he had reached the Abyss same like Amur, Zinnia & Anos? Wouldn't it put him at top 4-5, being above Duelniga & Aisha Necron since he's Vortex Tier like Amur as of now?

u/Devourer2005 — 1 month ago

Nafta's Crystal World- Kandaquizorte

Source: LN Vol 6: Jiordial, Kingdom of the Divine Dragon Arc

Chapter 17: The Pope Chapter 18: Who Will Obtain the Victorious Future

I have a question to ask. Is Nafta's Divine Domain 2A structure since it contains all future possibilities, it is the future itself & unless all possibilities are destroyed at once it'd reform instantly?

u/Devourer2005 — 1 month ago

Absolute Abyss Vortex?

Source: LN Vol 17, Chapter 17: The People's Wish

I have questions to ask. Does the Abyss Vortex possess NEP2? Does it have qualities such as Acausality, Aspatial, Atemporal, Non Duality? Because I think Maelstrom does have NEP2 due to being existing outside orders but being neither existence or non existence since it is born from the collective wishes & malice of silver sea?

u/Devourer2005 — 2 months ago

Absolute Abyss Vortex

I have questions to ask. Does the Abyss Vortex possess NEP2? Does it have qualities such as Acausality, Aspatial, Atemporal, Non Duality? Because I think Maelstrom does have NEP2 due to being existing outside orders but being neither existence or non existence since it is born from the collective wishes & malice of silver sea?

u/Devourer2005 — 2 months ago

Battle of Demon Kings

Who'd win in a fight b/w Tyrant of Destruction Amur Veewither (EoS LN Vol 17) vs Great Demon King Zinnia Shivaheld (LN Vol 15-16)? Give answers with reasons

u/Devourer2005 — 2 months ago

Wind of Freedom vs Star of Hope

Who would win in a fight b/w Noah & Duelniga? Pls explain with scans, no glazing, because I think it might go to stalemate or Noah/Duelniga Extreme Diff.

u/Devourer2005 — 2 months ago

The Child of Malice

Murga was born from the Absolute Vortex, so how strong is he, taking all his feats from Volume 17 of Light Novels? Did Murga suffered the most in entire series? How powrful would be full potential Murga?

u/Devourer2005 — 2 months ago

Self Deepening Cheat

I think that introducing Demdo Ivu Rayon in Maou Gakuin was a very big cheat because with it, the strongest beings who can deepen themselves without Demdo spells or hatred. How? Let me explain

In 2nd Panel, Zinnia took his own source out, which was none other than the Abyss Magic Agido itself. However he survied ripping his own source out of his body which usually kills high tier beings of silver sea

Source: Light Novel Volume 16: Twelve Deep Worlds Arc, Chapter 21: Inheritance of Abyss Magic

In 3rd Panel, Amur grasped his own source & begun to compound deepening the mass of ruin to destroy entire silver sea

Source: Light Novel Volume 17: Reincarnation World Arc, Chapter 39: The Seventh Step

Going by this conclusion, I think that abyssal tier characters in silver sea don't need demdo spells to deepen their abyss, they can simply grasp their source & continue to compound deepen it with <Demdo Ivu Rayon> (Black Septagram Grasping Demon Hand) until they transcend the destruction of 8th step Nirvana Conquest. By all feats mentioned in light novels, it isn't impossible for the likes of top 10 to actually do it

Wouldn't this just make MGK characters having bottomless potential? After all, deepening correlates to transcendence, what's stopping all the top 10 characters from transcending Agido depth?

u/Devourer2005 — 2 months ago

The King of Social Media

Amur is so strong that he shouldn't be allowed to use social media, especially Twitter because his eyes absorb hatred, and that means he can use digital media as his source of power & power up instantly

What do you guys think, should Amur be allowed to use social media or not?

u/Devourer2005 — 3 months ago

Order Manipulation = Definition Manipulation

Light Novel Volume 4 Act 1, Chapter 6: A God's Lecture

Orders are the definition of why the concepts work how they work, explaining why a demon is Demon, why green is green, why God is god or why sky is sky. Gods embodying these orders are much like concepts, orders themselves are definitions than being concepts themselves. These concepts in MGK are Type 1 Concepts due to them exhibiting traits of Platonic Concepts within a limited radius of influence. Gods are physical manifestations of these Platonic Concepts, Platonic Concepts exist in the way gods cannot while Orders exist in realm of platonic forms, or definitions which are also platonic concepts

Light Novel Volume 10 Act 1, Chapter 25: Eques

The destruction of God does not mean the Order is destroyed or affected, meaning Order transcends Gods. Therefore, Order > Gods

Then doesn't this qualify for MGK having Definition Manipulation Ability? Anos, Noah, Amur & Zinnia in this sense would be undefined characters (that cannot be defined or are unbound to definitions) which means existence outside Meta Concept Manipulation hence even Reason Manipulation might not be enough to beat these 4 characters. What do you guys think?

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u/Devourer2005 — 3 months ago