Links broke

Here thing, my story was made using snowman 2.0.2 and it worked perfectly well, but today i choose to update my story to snowman 2.1.1 and every single link to different passage broke, like it stopped to be functional at all while at 2.0.2 story worked perfectly well and all passages worked correctly, any ideas what might have caused it

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u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 1 day ago

Page issue

How to do so when player moves to new passage in twine, they go to top of the page, because every timr i scroll down it stays down when i move to another passage and i want it return back to top, so any idea how to solve this issue?

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u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 2 days ago

Yoruisms

One interesting thing i rarely seen people talk about is that Bladeshu quotes Yoru from lcb world multiple times, what do you think about this

u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 9 days ago

Yoruisms

One interesting thing i rarely seen people talk about is that Bladeshu quotes Yoru from lcb world multiple times, what do you think about this

u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 9 days ago

One misconception about HoS mw that people have that drives me nuts

Stop saying there was another another Dihui Star in hos mw before Bladeshū's mom

There wasn't one, Dihui Star blade was not in HoS, Dihui Star title wasn't claimed before her, one of reasons why Sinner NFs became so angry is that Bladeshu's mom became Dihui Star while she was away, there no "og dihui star" because Dihui Star here is OG, there is only one

There is only one Dihui Star in hos mw and she is Ticket

there no second Dihui Star and i have no fucking idea why people think there was one

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u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 9 days ago

Given all recent discussions im curious

How you do see personalities of Shiomi Yoru and Araya, what do you think what they are like as people, how do you percivie them, share your thoughts on how you see personalities of both of them, and why you think they have such personalities

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u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 9 days ago

Given all recent discussions im curious

How you do see personalities of Shiomi Yoru and Araya, what do you think what they are like as people, how do you percivie them, share your thoughts on how you see personalities of both of them, and why you think they have such personalities

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u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 9 days ago

Pinky Nursefather in mw

Honestly given how community talks about about Bladeshū's mom in mw i have a question, do people only can register Yoru as Yoru only when she is cruel or what, because a lot of time i hear argument that Bladeshu's mother can't be Yoru and it's need to be Araya because of what, Bladeshu's mother happened to be kinder, when like, personality is a thing that is bound to change in mw, like people don't think our Rodion would throw slurs around, so im asking what is the reason that people don't think Yoru can be Bladeshu's mom? Why they want a literal child to be in her place instead?

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u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 10 days ago

Parallel

Small thing I noticed, scene in beginning of Valendion uptie is a parallel of bladeshu in Canto, but since in both scenes Yoru got here because of different circumstances, her reaction is much different

(Ryōshū's va said Araya doesn't exist in this mw)

u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 11 days ago

Parallel

Small thing I noticed, scene in beginning of Valendion uptie is a parallel of bladeshu in Canto, but since in both scenes Yoru got here because of different circumstances, her reaction is much different

(Ryōshū's va said Araya doesn't exist in this mw)

u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 11 days ago

Girl in Birdcage

This is an analysis of what Araya had to experience during her being stuck in House of Spiders while Ryōshū was away.

I will be discussing her experience with Rien, since he was one of the only people who knew the full extent of her situation and one who put her in such a situation in the first place.

But I repeat, since I'm talking about Araya's perspective, differentiation between Rien and Hermes isn't important to me since this analysis isn't about him.

Let start with scene of her going out safe:

  • Rien: I have no idea what kind of emotion drove you to push that door open...

  • Rien: But we will be reunited with Yoshihide again, without fail.

  • Rien: Because as long as that child remains incomplete, the House of Spiders... will endure.

  • Rien: And it just so happens, there's a vacancy in the House. Perhaps your aptitude will also be enough to seize the title of Dihui Star…

  • Araya: Does that mean, if I follow these threads to where you are...

  • Araya: If I become a Nursefather... will I see her again?

  • Araya: Even now, the wait has not stopped.

  • Rien: Of course. My sweet daughter will come home.

What happened in this scene is coercion and manipulation. Rien frames Araya becoming/pretending to be the Dihui Star as being a guaranteed path towards meeting Yoshihide/Ryōshū.

Rien is speaking to Araya in what is arguably one of the most vulnerable moments of her life. She just came out of the safe, experiencing a flood of memories from the past and future,and was convinced that Ryōshū had abandoned her.

Rien used that vulnerability to forge a fetter that’ll anchor Ryōshū to the House of Spiders as a “gutter”.

He says that her ‘aptitude’ will be enough to replace the now dead Shiomi Yoru, but in the end, Araya is just a stepping stone to Rien’s plans, one that will eventually die so that Ryōshū can become a ‘hell of blades that slashes away at the world’.

From Canto 9 and 9.5 Twinning Threads we know that Araya did not enjoy the thought of pretending to be the Dihui Star or being in the HoS.

From Twinning Threads:

  • Araya: What's... up there?

  • Rien: ... You may speak to me casually, Araya. But...

  • Rien: ... in the presence of other Apprentices, perhaps you should find it preferable to mimic the tone of the Dihui Star.

  • Araya: ... C'mon. It's not like I wanted to be Dihui Star. Just lemme do whatever I want while I'm here.

  • Rien: Certainly. You have a point.

From Canto 9:

Araya has a lot of lines that show her distaste of the HoS, for example:

  • Dihui Star(Araya): I had grown so sick... of this place.
  • Dihui Star(Araya): But you left! You freed yourself anyway!

  • Dihui Star(Araya): You stepped out to the ground outside... and traveled to see the sky. The real sky.

Araya was clearly unhappy in the HoS, but saw it as the only way to reunite with her mother.

She was been made to emulate her own, now dead, grandmother, even copy her manner of speech

Due to this emotional manipulation by Rien, Araya was as imprisoned as Yoru, just in a different way (physical vs emotional) although if Araya ever attempted to leave, it would likely end with Rien stopping her physically if the emotional appeal didn’t work, as she was necessary to fulfill the purpose of the HoS. (She was also already physically trapped, on account of how the Dihui Star area of the HOS only exited to Rien’s part, so literally any attempt to leave would be easily intercepted by Rien and he also had effectively unlimited access to her.)

This long house arrest and little social interaction with peers (the fact that she never seemed to interact with any of the apprentices beyond her own, It's unclear if any of them even were aware of Araya’s status as a straight up child forced to be a nursefather for Ren), alongside with the loss of Ryōshū caused much anguish to Araya, as she was still a child even with the memories from her future self.

For example, she refers to herself as a ‘thing’.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): Why even go through all this trouble to save that thing?

She saw herself as trapped, caught.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): The only way to be free... is never to have been caught in it to begin with.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): For you and me both.

It went to a point that she saw herself as nothing more than a mere observer, stuck in spider web.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): Once you've spent enough time snared by the web...

  • Dihui Star(Araya): ... you end up surrendering yourself to the fate of a mere observer.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): Just as how...

  • Dihui Star(Araya): ... when you tried to take a step forward, the inseverable, innumerable clew of spider silk...

  • Dihui Star(Araya): ... bound your feet.

All while feeling terrible pain as a result of Entanglement, moments where she loses even sense of where she is.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): Because sometimes, there are flashes when I lose all sense of where I am.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): It happens like an unpredictable, uncontrollable calamity.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): When it does, I simply... wait it out.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): I wait, and I wait... and then it's over.

  • The Pinky Nursefather hesitated, and a cry of pain escaped from her lips.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): .......

  • Dihui Star(Araya): It's happening again. I can't see a thing...

  • Dihui Star(Araya): Nothing at all…

  • She stumbles as though an invisible, intangible force has taken over her.

She feels herself as an unneeded, forgotten thing.

As an object.

And Rien himself saw her as object too, while in front of Ryōshū pretended a bit to care about her, about what she is like

  • Rien: Darling, I know these memories may have been burned away with my face, but…

  • Rien: ... let me share some of them with you.

  • Rien: The child has black hair. And her height came up to somewhere a little above your knees.

  • Rien: And when she smiles, she flashes her still-growing baby teeth.

  • Rien: She loved her bright red randoseru bag... and she loved you.

In truth, she was always a tool for him. He saw her as heartless for the situation he himself put her into.

  • Rien: What a heartless person she is.

And as fetter to chain Ryōshū down, fetter to chain Ryōshū, to make her reach nothingness

Her death was for him “once-in-the-lifetime spectacle”

  • Rien: I know this is a once-in-a-lifetime spectacle, but I can't imagine you have any reason to stay and watch.

  • Rien: Your Nursefather fulfilled her purpose remarkably. All you need to do is turn around and leave, and you'll be free.

  • Ren: My master has but completed the purpose you have chosen for her, and that has naught to do with my humble self. Why urge me to leave?

  • Rien: The objective was to elevate my darling daughter into a state of complete emptiness... and to accomplish that, we had to forge a fetter; for fetters inevitably invite nihility.

Araya's wellbeing was never a question for him, she was a thing to break Ryōshū, so as time was passing away, she was falling apart inside, seeing herself as a forgotten thing.

All she could do was wait, perpetually waiting and waiting for everything to pass. From her creation all Araya knows is to wait, always waiting for her mommy to come home

EGO gift Unoccupied Birdcage is about her

Because after all

House of Spiders was her birdcage.

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u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 13 days ago

Girl in Birdcage

This is an analysis of what Araya had to experience during her being stuck in House of Spiders while Ryōshū was away.

I will be discussing her experience with Rien, since he was one of the only people who knew the full extent of her situation and one who put her in such a situation in the first place.

But I repeat, since I'm talking about Araya's perspective, differentiation between Rien and Hermes isn't important to me since this analysis isn't about him.

Let start with scene of her going out safe:

  • Rien: I have no idea what kind of emotion drove you to push that door open...

  • Rien: But we will be reunited with Yoshihide again, without fail.

  • Rien: Because as long as that child remains incomplete, the House of Spiders... will endure.

  • Rien: And it just so happens, there's a vacancy in the House. Perhaps your aptitude will also be enough to seize the title of Dihui Star…

  • Araya: Does that mean, if I follow these threads to where you are...

  • Araya: If I become a Nursefather... will I see her again?

  • Araya: Even now, the wait has not stopped.

  • Rien: Of course. My sweet daughter will come home.

What happened in this scene is coercion and manipulation. Rien frames Araya becoming/pretending to be the Dihui Star as being a guaranteed path towards meeting Yoshihide/Ryōshū.

Rien is speaking to Araya in what is arguably one of the most vulnerable moments of her life. She just came out of the safe, experiencing a flood of memories from the past and future,and was convinced that Ryōshū had abandoned her.

Rien used that vulnerability to forge a fetter that’ll anchor Ryōshū to the House of Spiders as a “gutter”.

He says that her ‘aptitude’ will be enough to replace the now dead Shiomi Yoru, but in the end, Araya is just a stepping stone to Rien’s plans, one that will eventually die so that Ryōshū can become a ‘hell of blades that slashes away at the world’.

From Canto 9 and 9.5 Twinning Threads we know that Araya did not enjoy the thought of pretending to be the Dihui Star or being in the HoS.

From Twinning Threads:

  • Araya: What's... up there?

  • Rien: ... You may speak to me casually, Araya. But...

  • Rien: ... in the presence of other Apprentices, perhaps you should find it preferable to mimic the tone of the Dihui Star.

  • Araya: ... C'mon. It's not like I wanted to be Dihui Star. Just lemme do whatever I want while I'm here.

  • Rien: Certainly. You have a point.

From Canto 9:

Araya has a lot of lines that show her distaste of the HoS, for example:

  • Dihui Star(Araya): I had grown so sick... of this place.
  • Dihui Star(Araya): But you left! You freed yourself anyway!

  • Dihui Star(Araya): You stepped out to the ground outside... and traveled to see the sky. The real sky.

Araya was clearly unhappy in the HoS, but saw it as the only way to reunite with her mother.

She was been made to emulate her own, now dead, grandmother, even copy her manner of speech

Due to this emotional manipulation by Rien, Araya was as imprisoned as Yoru, just in a different way (physical vs emotional) although if Araya ever attempted to leave, it would likely end with Rien stopping her physically if the emotional appeal didn’t work, as she was necessary to fulfill the purpose of the HoS. (She was also already physically trapped, on account of how the Dihui Star area of the HOS only exited to Rien’s part, so literally any attempt to leave would be easily intercepted by Rien and he also had effectively unlimited access to her.)

This long house arrest and little social interaction with peers (the fact that she never seemed to interact with any of the apprentices beyond her own, It's unclear if any of them even were aware of Araya’s status as a straight up child forced to be a nursefather for Ren), alongside with the loss of Ryōshū caused much anguish to Araya, as she was still a child even with the memories from her future self.

For example, she refers to herself as a ‘thing’.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): Why even go through all this trouble to save that thing?

She saw herself as trapped, caught.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): The only way to be free... is never to have been caught in it to begin with.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): For you and me both.

It went to a point that she saw herself as nothing more than a mere observer, stuck in spider web.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): Once you've spent enough time snared by the web...

  • Dihui Star(Araya): ... you end up surrendering yourself to the fate of a mere observer.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): Just as how...

  • Dihui Star(Araya): ... when you tried to take a step forward, the inseverable, innumerable clew of spider silk...

  • Dihui Star(Araya): ... bound your feet.

All while feeling terrible pain as a result of Entanglement, moments where she loses even sense of where she is.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): Because sometimes, there are flashes when I lose all sense of where I am.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): It happens like an unpredictable, uncontrollable calamity.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): When it does, I simply... wait it out.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): I wait, and I wait... and then it's over.

  • The Pinky Nursefather hesitated, and a cry of pain escaped from her lips.

  • Dihui Star(Araya): .......

  • Dihui Star(Araya): It's happening again. I can't see a thing...

  • Dihui Star(Araya): Nothing at all…

  • She stumbles as though an invisible, intangible force has taken over her.

She feels herself as an unneeded, forgotten thing.

As an object.

And Rien himself saw her as object too, while in front of Ryōshū pretended a bit to care about her, about what she is like

  • Rien: Darling, I know these memories may have been burned away with my face, but…

  • Rien: ... let me share some of them with you.

  • Rien: The child has black hair. And her height came up to somewhere a little above your knees.

  • Rien: And when she smiles, she flashes her still-growing baby teeth.

  • Rien: She loved her bright red randoseru bag... and she loved you.

In truth, she was always a tool for him. He saw her as heartless for the situation he himself put her into.

  • Rien: What a heartless person she is.

And as fetter to chain Ryōshū down, fetter to chain Ryōshū, to make her reach nothingness

Her death was for him “once-in-the-lifetime spectacle”

  • Rien: I know this is a once-in-a-lifetime spectacle, but I can't imagine you have any reason to stay and watch.

  • Rien: Your Nursefather fulfilled her purpose remarkably. All you need to do is turn around and leave, and you'll be free.

  • Ren: My master has but completed the purpose you have chosen for her, and that has naught to do with my humble self. Why urge me to leave?

  • Rien: The objective was to elevate my darling daughter into a state of complete emptiness... and to accomplish that, we had to forge a fetter; for fetters inevitably invite nihility.

Araya's wellbeing was never a question for him, she was a thing to break Ryōshū, so as time was passing away, she was falling apart inside, seeing herself as a forgotten thing.

All she could do was wait, perpetually waiting and waiting for everything to pass. From her creation all Araya knows is to wait, always waiting for her mommy to come home

EGO gift Unoccupied Birdcage is about her

Because after all

House of Spiders was her birdcage.

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u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 13 days ago

Small appreciation

I love how much Everlasting Faust reminds me of revolutionary girl utena, the bride dress, the sword from chest, i find it such a pretty EGO, so beautiful

u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 16 days ago

Small appreciation

I love how much Everlasting Faust reminds me of revolutionary girl utena, the bride dress, the sword from chest, i find it such a pretty EGO, so beautiful

u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 16 days ago

Small appreciation

I love how much Everlasting Faust reminds me of revolutionary girl utena, the bride dress, the sword from chest, i find it such a pretty EGO, so beautiful

u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 16 days ago

Locked Away

I find it's really interesting how in Canto 9 there three different imagery of being locked away

Birdcage

Cocoon

Safe

EGO gift associated with Shiomi family in mirror dungeon is Unoccupied Birdcage, and Bladeshu describes being in safe as to be compared to the birdcage

  • My little world. My cramped room. The birdcage I can never escape from. Perhaps a place that makes me homesick. A place that does not welcome me. Why am I even trying to leave? The door won't open, will it?

  • And even if I go outside, who would be there to welcome me?

The Entanglement, or to be more specific effect Entangled Life is literally described to be cocoon

  • Twisted and entangled beyond measure, bound and woven into a cocoon. Thread. Life World.

And about safe, about vault, we all familiar with it, Ryōshū hid away there, Araya was put here for safety, Bladeshu was tortured there, vault that was made for objects, not humans

Butterfly inside of cocoon

An object hidden in the safe

A bird locked in birdcage

How much more you will be locked away

Will you ever break this shell

Will you ever open this coffin

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u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 19 days ago

Shiomi Yoru and Araya

  • Both of them have butterfly imagery

  • Both wanted to live normal lives, Yoru wanted to live as a Star of the Pinky should (free to roam the city) and Araya wanted to go to school and have fun with her mommy, doing mundane children's things like learning the newest slang or eating cold watermelon

  • Both of them lost their youth because of Ryōshū unitentionlly, with scenes of them getting wrinkles and them being put in the roles being right next to each other

  • Both of them were coerced into their position, Yoru was trafficked, assaulted and forced to bear Ryoshu, while Araya was groomed by Rien into becoming the new Dihui Star and Pinky Nursefather

  • Both of them had their free will completely gutted, with Yoru having to take care of Ryoshu and never leave the house while Araya had to pretend to be Yoru and could only "be herself" with Rien, and basically fulfill the purpose of turning Ryoshu into a killing machine

  • Both of them seen by Rien as something lesser than Ryōshū because they didn't had ability that she had

  • Both of them being tied to idea of retter, Yoru perciving Ryōshū as a fetter to keep her in HoS and Araya being literal planned to be fetter for Ryōshū

  • Both of them resent Ryoshu for different reasons, Yoru for taking her freedom away and Araya for seemingly abandoning her

  • Both of them wanted Ryōshū to be free from HoS once and for all

  • Both of them ended up being stabbed by Ryōshū in the chest by Arayashiki

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u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 1 month ago

Shiomi Yoru and Araya

  • Both of them have butterfly imagery

  • Both wanted to live normal lives, Yoru wanted to live as a Star of the Pinky should (free to roam the city) and Araya wanted to go to school and have fun with her mommy, doing mundane children's things like learning the newest slang or eating cold watermelon

  • Both of them lost their youth because of Ryōshū unitentionlly, with scenes of them getting wrinkles and them being put in the roles being right next to each other

  • Both of them were coerced into their position, Yoru was trafficked, assaulted and forced to bear Ryoshu, while Araya was groomed by Rien into becoming the new Dihui Star and Pinky Nursefather

  • Both of them had their free will completely gutted, with Yoru having to take care of Ryoshu and never leave the house while Araya had to pretend to be Yoru and could only "be herself" with Rien, and basically fulfill the purpose of turning Ryoshu into a killing machine

  • Both of them seen by Rien as something lesser than Ryōshū because they didn't had ability that she had

  • Both of them being tied to idea of retter, Yoru perciving Ryōshū as a fetter to keep her in HoS and Araya being literal planned to be fetter for Ryōshū

  • Both of them resent Ryoshu for different reasons, Yoru for taking her freedom away and Araya for seemingly abandoning her

  • Both of them wanted Ryōshū to be free from HoS once and for all

  • Both of them ended up being stabbed by Ryōshū in the chest by Arayashiki

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u/Dizzy-Recipe-1517 — 1 month ago