u/Dong-Corleone

I kinda exaggerated that but I believe Adam silver is trying to force okc to win for personal gain i genuinely believe that shit

Why do Brits go so hard on the U.S. when they are basically the USA of Europe?

You can make healthcare, school shooting, and Donald Trump jokes if you want. And honestly, I’m not really fond of a lot of aspects of American life, culture, media, or government either. But when I look at the UK, I see a country that had a pretty public meltdown because someone who was barely Black — and basically looked like a Mediterranean white woman — married into the royal family, while Brits constantly say U.S. media is racially charged and extreme.

I see a country where the lauded NHS continues to be defunded year after year, leading to worse health outcomes, while more and more neoliberal politicians seem interested in adopting a more Australian- or U.S.-style healthcare model. At the same time, the average Brit dumps on Americans for not having socialized medicine. Most politicians there also constantly tell bold-faced lies on issues like Brexit, where the supposed EU dues were allegedly going to the NHS, or where some random service always has to be cut “to defend the NHS,” all while the NHS itself remains underfunded and people deal with terrible situations because of it, like the death of rapper .

I also see a country where a large chunk of the population votes primarily around antagonizing and blocking immigration in hopes of reclaiming some flash of nationalistic glory, which honestly does not seem that different from the kind of politics Americans get associated with under MAGA.

A lot of Brits and Europeans online claim the U.S. is this uniquely crazy place with dumpster-fire race relations, but most of Europe has been overwhelmingly white for a long time, and now that there are more nonwhite populations in Europe, a lot of the same arguments Americans have had for decades about immigration, integration, crime, and national identity are starting to appear there too.

And despite claiming to have a strong social safety net, parts of the UK still struggle with serious crime, disenfranchised urban youth, poverty, and social alienation. Outside of the major metropolitan centers, infrastructure access can honestly feel worse than even some “hick states” in the U.S.

The U.S. has weird traditions too, sure. But when thw queen died, hospitals shut down and people who had probably already been waiting months for treatment just had to deal with it.

And even if you want to go the foreign-policy route and say the U.S. makes the rest of the world unsafe, the UK usually supports and directly benefits from many of America’s actions anyway. The overthrow of the Iranian government in the 1950s was partially instigated by the British. Most of Europe also benefits from broader Western economic dominance and IMF-style global financial systems.

Even in demographics from my understanding the UK is the most obese country in western europe.

You guys can trash-talk America as much as you want in the replies — it’s whatever to me. I just feel like people massively exaggerate the gap between the U.S. and the UK, and sometimes Europe more broadly, in terms of dysfunction, propaganda, inequality, nationalism, racial tension, and political hypocrisy.

And just to clarify, I do not support attempts by the current U.S. administration to antagonize or undermine the sovereignty of Europe Or the UK. This is not meant as a defense of current American actions or policies. I just think the differences between these two countries is overstated online.