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Too many reasons for her return to not happen.
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lmk what you think.

She used a haki-less, DF-less swing while being under amnesia and she managed to completely no-diff an AcoA defence.

Application of which was already beyond anything Hyogoro could teach Luffy, meaning it was no basic power at all.

Respect the queen of sandbagging and circumstantial nerfs.

People use these panels as evidence that Oda is just inconsistent with showing conqueror haki.
But I look at these guys and to me they all fill the purpose of what a conqueror is.

We obviously don't have a Speedwagon panel explaining that they are conquerors but logically speaking they could all have it.

Jinbei
Ulti
Scabbards (some)
Black Beard
Koby
Sabo

Now Conqueror Leakage vs Advanced Conquerors is a different topic entirely.
What I'm saying is with people like Katakuri, these guys are also leaking CoC in their attacks.

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EDIT: Why I think Jinbei, Some of the Scabbards and Ulti are conquerors:

Jinbei: Been a captain for years, refused orders that go against his will (Marineford/WCI)
And stood face to face with Big Mom and said "I can't be intimidated by a mere emperor."

Dog/Cat: Showed unbreaking will at Zou during Jack's raid, they protected what's important to them at the cost of their lives.. They're also leaders themselves. There's arguments for a couple of other scabbards but these are the strongest candidates.

Ulti: Called Kaido annoying infront of his face and was willing to challenge Big Mom, all in order to protect Page One, showing no fear at all is also what a conqueror does.

Most of us believe Imu will be forced out back into Marie Geoise by this unexplained limited time that he has..

Before he leaves, I'm going to need some bodies dropping with atleast 1 Straw Hat dying. basically a more gruesome Sabaody Archipelago.

We can't be having Imu, the World, pull up and for there not to be any major casualties, Gaban now seems like the most likely candidate but I don't think that's enough to sell the scene for me.

What about y'all, feel the same way, is your list different?

If y'all have seen Stampede.. how far does Bullet get realistically in Kaido's Gauntlet?

No Heals

As we know Kaido stopped at Bajrang Gun. (extreme diff)
How would Big Mom do in the same gauntlet if it played out mostly the same way, but with her as the main focus instead?

No Heals.
(apart from her DF hax)

I was worried that Kaido would remain the undisputed speedster tbh...

To me the difference is massive and panels clearly show it thanks to his performance against base Luffy after organ dmg.

A lot of y'all seem to believe that having your organs destroyed and electrocuted does very little to your performance.

Some would even go as far to say that Bellamy's punches hurt as much as Gamma Knife and Counter Shock.

What do you think, where do you scale pre/post organ damage Doflamingo?

For real though, It's a crazy strength feat being able to lift a large ship like that, against the water surface tension while anchored.

Put some respect on my boy!

He could man-handle any Tobiroppo... Dare I say he can ragdoll and explode biscuit soldiers and even Jack.
We gotta have him right there with the 3rd Yonko Commanders surely.

No wring outs, No outside intervention, No off-guards from Big Mom trying to leave.
How far are they getting at legitimately beating Big Mom?
(same versions that fought her in Wano)

R1: Heals
R2: No Heals
R3: No Heals but the Egghead versions (better stamina etc)

That's a bit of an over-reaction since apparently Big Mom's best only scales to his base.

Help me figure this mystery out guys, is Linlin relative or not?

For me they may have gotten at best like 50% there.

Because there was not a single attack that hit Big Mom (even the last 2 or the bomb after)

That made BM react for longer than a panel or two worth of time.

Smirking and intimidating right after Law and Kid's strongest attacks hit her directly is quite indicative of the fact that she was still able to continue fighting if not for the disadvantageous position.

Holding yourself up by hands and heels while Kid unloads his strongest attack is even crazier considering your insides are absolutely destroyed.

It would take another fresh set of Law and Kid to legitimately beat her, assuming the fight goes the exact same way and she allows herself to get off-guarded and distracted and not finish them when she had 2 chances to.

For me they may have gotten at best like 50% there.

Because there was not a single attack that hit Big Mom (even the last 2 or the bomb after)
That made BM react for longer than a panel or two worth of time.

Smirking and intimidating right after Law and Kid's strongest attacks hit her directly is quite indicative of the fact that she was still able to continue fighting if not for the disadvantageous position.

Holding yourself up by hands and heels while Kid unloads his strongest attack is even crazier considering your insides are absolutely destroyed.

It would take another fresh set of Law and Kid to legitimately beat her, assuming the fight goes the exact same way and she allows herself to get off-guarded and distracted and not finish them when she had 2 chances to.

Everything laid out for you, Big Mom be good right now.

Not only did she not take nearly enough damage to be taken out, not only are Prometheus and Hera nowhere to be seen, but Big Mom somehow ended up right next to Kaido and her sillouette looks similar to a top-down view of her riding Prometheus.

Also there's no way those Yonko would die to magma alone, they coat themselves in flames that are almost as hot without any issues.

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Everything laid out for you, Big Mom be good right now.

Not only did she not take nearly enough damage to be taken out, not only are Prometheus and Hera nowhere to be seen, but Big Mom somehow ended up right next to Kaido and her sillouette looks similar to a top-down view of her riding Prometheus.

Also there's no way those Yonko would die to magma alone, they coat themselves in flames that are almost as hot without any issues.

This is just 1 of many many reasons as to why I think Big Mom is still alive.. But lets look at what we see here..

We have a diagram which shows Big Mom and Kaido's crater holes, based on the scaling we can see that it's atleast a whole Onigashima length of distance between their fall points...

So how are we shown 2 silhouettes of Kaido and Big Mom right next to eachother instead of having them cut into separate panels like everything else?
We never even get a closeup of Big Mom in the lava pool, this is the only panel we see of her and it happens to be impossibly close to where Kaido has landed?

In my opinion.. Big Mom swam through the lava to reach where Kaido has fell.
(either by herself or with the help of her Homies who mysteriously dissapeared after she fell)
With the purpose of either saving him or taking his soul away over that debt of hers.

Next we see a weird eruption which could very well be Hera and Prometheus breaking Big Mom out of the magma pool.

Final point is BM's silhouette herself... That doesn't look like her unless its meant to depict her clothes very slowly ripping? Could she be on top of one of her Homies on this panel?

What do you guys think?

Have we been seeing the Logia Awakening since pre-TS?

Being able to transform into your element and terraform the environment on a whim could be the 2 things that unlock with the awakening... Basically sharing the functions of both Zoans and Paramecia.

Is that probable?

Was looking through OharaLibrarian's map and got inspired to ask..

Which team is the strongest here? Can one of them beat both of the others convincingly?