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Real shit for my people
And it just don't
Fucker please you must be smokin' rocks
Real shit for my people
And it just don't
Drop it like oh yeah
That's so trashy
How low can you go
How dirty can you get nasty fucker
Drug through the dirt
Razor cut that eight millimeter make it hurt
Chain sleaze leather face
Fucker please, you must be smokin' rocks
Kill it, kill it
Kill it, kill it
Hit it, fuck it, feel it, whip it, burn it, turn it out and kick it to da curb
Shut it down
Forged in the flames, said it before and ill say it again
Quasar game maximum vacuum rotation spin s-s-s
When shit goes down
I'll be there
Wit my hand on my gun, and my eyes on the road ghost ridin ta hell fuck if I care
Who wanna catch my droze
Give a fuck blood
I ain't goin nowhere
Templar night and day, live an die by the code, code of the street, how ta stay in the zone, how I own it and freak it to da base of da bone
I am the darkness creeping through your system
The lash of da whip
Cracking every bitch
Into position
Workin' ya over crashing and burning in a blackhole blasting out, your subwoofers are melting
Hear a bitch say why's he yelling
Who wanna catch dis gun clap, shrapnel off me lip
'Cause blood bath
'Cause I run this like
Like dogtown ripped
That raw shit like none other
Low down dirty shit
Shot off this hip
Death grips, mothafucka
Please, you must be
Smokin' rocks
Real shit for my people
And it just don't

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Notes

There’s a lot of interesting stuff about misogyny and witches in page 190/191
of Donald Lateiner and Dimos
spartharas’
“The ancient emotion of disgust.”

“Witches, Disgust, and Anti Abortion Propaganda in Imperial Rome
Debbie Felton

The stark contrast between Greek and Roman literary depictions of witches, though well
Known, remains puzzling. The relatively abrupt shift from young, beautiful, desireable sorceress to elderly, “hideous,” DISGUSTING hag reached its peak between the late first century BCE and the mid-first century CE but why? The answer may relate to a specially male source of distress that reached a near-panic point during this time period: a perceived decline in morals and population

Women’s sexual behaviour during this time was of particular concern an anxiety reflected in Augustan policies designed to encourage marriage and children this antipathy seems to have made its way into descriptions of witches in Roman literature.”

“Roman witches are almost uniformly old and ugly

This suggests the possibility that the Roman witch prefigured the medieval perception of midwives as witches providing an early example of the perversion and subsequent demonization of a midwife’s duties

The author notes that all of the main elicited of disgust such as violations of hygiene, bodily excrement, sexual perversions, violations of bodily envelope, death and decay were utilised for witches as Carolyne korsmeyer points out, one standard way for people in outsider groups to be marginalised is portraying them as disgusting
Witches in Roman literature are physically “disgusting”

Roman authors consistently describe witches as not simply physically ugly but disgusting. Their lack of hygiene is astounding. Witches are for example filthy (obscena) and have rotting teeth (dente livido) implying foul breath.”

I wonder if there is Much literature (I’m sure there is) in clock time and capitalism

I wonder if it links with modernity as well as taylorist modes of control

Some excerpts form Number: It’s origin and Evolution

“Foucalt found that “in the first gesture of the first mathematician one saw the constitution of an ideality that has been deployed throughout history and has questioned only to be repeated and purified.”

“Boas concluded that “counting does not become necessary until objects are considered in such generalized form that their individualities are entirely lost sight of.” In the growth of civilization we have learned to use increasingly abstract signs to point at increasingly abstract referents. On the other hand, prehistoric languages had a plethora of terms for the touched and felt, while very often having no number words beyond one, two and many.”

“In the birth of controls aimed at control of what is free and unordered, crystallized by early counting, we see a new attitude toward the world.”

“Today, as ever, when a large family sits down to dinner and it is noticed that someone is missing, this is not accomplished by counting. Or when a hut was built in prehistoric times, the number of required posts was not specified or counted, rather they were inherent to the idea of the hut, intrinsically involved in it. (Even in early agriculture, the loss of a herd animal could be detected not by counting but by missing a particular face or characteristic features; it seems clear, however, as Bryan Morgan argues, that “man’s first use for a number system” was certainly as a control of domesticated flock animals, as wild creatures became products to be harvested.) In distancing and separation lies the heart of mathematics: the discursive reduction of patterns, states and relationships which we initially perceived as wholes.
“

Yea this quote gets at what i was guessing the primitivist and anti civ critiques of “mathematics” or “counting” or “arithmetic” are

If one has read disgust literature one may notice a few types of distinctions iterated

Both vertical distinctions in terms of HIERARCHY with purity and disgust conveying ordinal ranks of superiority and inferiority “the respectable classes vs the paupers” or even worse “THE UNWASHED MASSES.”

It also portrays distance/separation/social difference “( Spatialization—like math—rests upon separation; inherent in it are division and an organization of that division. The division of time into parts)”or exclusion in a linear sense

I do wonder if the insides and outsides in Shawn Wilbur’s can be used for disgust as an emotion in terms of regulated in groups and outgroups (social exclusion and marginalisation).
Disgust is multifaceted and I suspect that OCD doesn’t capture its nuances but it’s still useful to talk about

The moral psychology of disgust notes that disgust in some studies was correlated with xenophobic attitudes as well as ethnocentrism (page 34)(this is disgust as an emotion not ocd sufferers)
It has also been linked with the enforcement of normality and social norms

Disgust for example has been linked to normative heterosexual and monogamous sexualities (page 35 of a moral psychology of disgust).

I wonder if there are other folks outside of Zerzan who critique arithmetic at length

It makes sense as primitivism critiques language in the same grounds that it is a product and reinforces alienation and it becomes “abstractified.”

It seems disgust produces both spacial and vertical distinctions or atleast may be a product of it

In the empire of disgust: prejudice, discrimination and policy in India and the US

In page 213 of the book in a section titled “The Rule of Disgust?

It puts it very well

“As Scott urges us to realise, the MODERN STATES “Measuring” and demarcation exercises involve a certain peculiar way of seeing nature and people alike, and are also likely part of the states efforts to gain leverage or even support vis a vis it’s otherwise unruly citizens.

States divisions and separations as critiques for producing “political disgust.”

First two pictures are of “Objection.”

I can’t access it right now because I don’t know where my keys are

All the others are just random stuff I put in for fun, like the punk chart I made a while ago and yesterdays listens

Here the question is

Is satire a good idea? Both satirizing OCD, anarchism? My own ocd and current political scenarios?

This originally started as a bit of a satire but it got more complicated than that

I would still love to write satire haha 😂

I swear I was a bit psychotic last week and maybe beyond 😵‍💫😭

Maybe I should delete some of my posts from early June late May lmao 🥺😅

Either way it is interesting to see the emotion of “disgust” and how it communicates and enforces normality and in group/out group distinctions

This profoundly insults women in a way which the worst patriarchal ideologies — the Jewish notion of woman as a source of POLLUTION (another word for contamination), for instance, or the Christian nightmare of woman as temptress and uncontrollable sexual nature-force (his words not mine)— fell short of. They defamed woman as evil but could hardly regard her as powerless. The new woman-as-victim stereotype is not only directly traceable to nineteenth century Victorian patriarchal attitudes reducing (bourgeois) women to inert ornaments, but by denying to women the creative power inherent in everyone, it places women’s demands on a par with those advanced for, say, baby seals

Out of all the anarchist writers, I can tell it would be Bob fucking black that would have wrote this one 😭💀💀

Concepts of purity, dirt, contamination, danger and how they interact with gender and our gender politic, language culture and analysis highly interest me

In response to this question, several scholars today would argue that modern restrictive attitudes towards dirt are a recent development and they would refer to Norbert Elias and his work “The civilizing process” for confirmation. In two bulky volumes, Elias described the development of western civilisation, the birth of the modern individual, as a process of increasing SELF DISCIPLINE, a central part of which consisted in raised standards of personal hygiene. With Modernisation, we are told, the principle means for socially controlling individuals switched from external to internal pressure.

According to Elias, the main method for instilling this new form of self discipline in early modern men and women was by evoking intensified feelings no s of shame and disgust.

Page 126

The history of shit I’m the modern period

The general narrative, where the modern era is characterized by the constant increase of discipline has been embraced by others independently of Elias. This for Michel Foucault, European cultural development from sixteenth century onwards( the same period that Elias was interested in) started with the tightening ending of mechanisms of repression and control, later however giving way to self surveillance, whereby every individual is now his or her own “THOUGHT POLICE.”

Page 130

The crux of the matter is that merde, including dirt and waste in the broadest sense possible, was already in the early modern age not perceived simply as a problem of hygiene, for ‘hygiene’s’ true drive is located far from its purported aim. The real aim of purifying efforts, by means of a more efficient control of the private lives of citizens, lay in the very fact of control as such.”
The introduction of secluded outhouses and privies separated from the bedroom in the sixteenth century paved the way for the forms of affect control characteristic of the bourgeois family and bourgeois public space in nineteenth century capitalism.

Page 131

Ambiguities of Self Discipline and the Campaign for Civilisation

The idea of self discipline

The onset of modernity from the renaissance onwards is typically represented as involving the increase of self-Discipline in everyday life.

Page 138

“But Venice was the only republic with the truly balanced government that brought to-gather aristocratic, oligarchic, and democratic elements to create-according to the dictates of classical political theory-a single, “serene,” and above all unified, orderly state.” Florence by constrast was a republic where mer-chants engaged openly in “vile and dirty” work as Oscars disdainfully puts it.

Florentines mixed up groups made a mess of social categories, created an untidy and hence dirty society.

Florence is thus the place to be, unique in its cleanliness just as it is unique, Bruni insists in its harmoniously ordered social structure and political governance

As a republic

and bruni the humanist who offers up a model of linguistic purity and “decorum” with his panegyric, is the trained latinist, to write this ORDERED panegyric in praise of such uniquely clean, ordered and WELL GOVERNED City.

Page 38 and 39

The culture of cleanliness in renaissance Italy 🏴🇮🇹