u/FR-1-Plan

I have an issue that I already had with Kimi 2.5 and it drives me a little nuts because it’s again not easily fixable.

I always tell any model to write 2-4 moderate paragraphs per output, <400 tokens and 1-2 narrative beats. That’s never a problem. Models know what a narrative beat is, it’s the smallest narrative unit (one action/one dialogue piece/one realization whatever).
Kimi is the only one not understanding no matter how I frame it.

So I tried leaving that out and replacing it with one action/dialogue unit per output. Not working. Also tried leaving out all of those requirements entirely because I thought maybe it’s taking that as request to fill 4 paragraphs and 2 beats. Didn’t work. I told it not to bloat, nothing. And the worst thing is, not only does it chain multiple actions (often dragging me through massive transitions with characters saying something to me that I can’t react to because I‘m already being moved by another character; a character I‘m speaking to doing ten things at once and then leaving before I can react), it also just yaps and yaps in character and won’t shut up.

So something causes it to overdeliver every output. I’m wondering, is that a K3 issue? My prompt issue? A combo of both? I know I haven’t shown much of my prompt except the pacing related things, but who knows. Maybe one of you had that issue before and knows what not to do with K3 so it doesnt do that.

I‘m grateful for every reply. Thanks!

It’s not necessarily just RP related, although it matters there too because I like to dissect arguments and have meaningful debates and I don’t really find any model good at them.

I have tried several for roleplaying now, but also sometimes I just paste debates I find into some LLM chat and want to have it analyzed.

But I notice that most models have a jarring difficulty discriminating between actual logically sound, factual arguments and confident sounding ones.

I once read an online discussion that I wanted to have dissected because I like to learn the correct terms for logical fallacies, even though I recognize them, but I want to be able to name them too. In that discussion there was someone who wrote excellent prose and very confident… but there was absolutely nothing behind their arguments, just completely missing what they were being criticised for. They were clearly offended and sarcastically used pseudo-academic language to make a point. The „opponent“ was arguing with very clinical language almost, not emotional or in purple prose, no metaphors. Just pointing out the issue (the other person being needlessly cruel before) and not engaging in the deflections.

Without failing all models I gave this to claimed that the clinical user was the emotional one arguing from an empathetic standpoint (which they weren’t, they didn’t say something is mean and to mind people’s feelings, but argued that the tone could hinder learning process and provided sources) and the prose-person was arguing analytical (which they weren’t because they didn’t engage with the factual claims, just made ad hominem attacks (still don’t know if that’s right lol).

That’s just one example. When I point these things out, the models usually shift and completely pivot. Except GPT which woudld argue until the end of times and defend its point. Of course *I* could be wrong. In some instances I surely am, but the above example was so obvious to me.

So do you know any models that are particularly good at this? Or is this just something that’s a blind spot for them all?

(Gemini is once again a little idiot who doesn’t know what analyze means and always just summarizes standpoints, equally annoying).

I would like to hear what sort of scenarios you’ve had the most fun with so I can spice up my roleplays.

So far I‘m mostly playing in a medieval fantasy setting (with fav characters from a known fandom, oftentimes The Witcher or similar), or original dark fantasy setting in the hells of DND. Once I took a detour and played in a modern setting and roleplayed as youtuber lol. So I‘m relatively open minded here, but I probably want to stay in a fantasy setting.

What I have troubles with at the moment are scenarios within those worlds. The worlds are vast, but because of my scenarios being similar I always move in the same corners of it.

I occasionally have creative ideas, like once I was some sort of forest sprite that could communicate with animals and had a lot of fun because it opened up a whole new toolkit for the AI to play with. Animals weren’t even really on my radar before that and AI didnt pay that much attention until they were the center of it.

But other than that I‘m often some kind of underdog/nobody in a feudal world and fight my way up in the hierarchy or deal with daily hardships of such a life (battles as knight or minor lord/lady, travel on horseback, tourneys, mostly sfw courtship, dealing with nobles and their antics, political intrigues). Ngl it gets boring. I find myself in the same situations and same interactions a lot. I‘m looking for twists that could spice things up. I once had a mystery to solve (my character spoke a dead language in his dreams without being taught) and that was really cool as it lead to questions about ancestry etc. So feel free to also share interesting user persona traits that made for interesting interactions/situations.

I guess I want to explore corners of these worlds that both the LLM and I keep overlooking. I feel like I have a blind spot here because I keep gravitating toward my own favourite configurations and that ends up being the same old.

You can suggest NSFW too, but I put SFW because I prefer actual story RP and not gooning. But if it adds to the story, I don’t mind.

I‘ve had an idea and maybe it is silly, but I wanted to share it anyway. Maybe some of you like it.

Recently there were discussions about presets and I always say that it comes down to your preferences and roleplays vary greatly from user to user. There are so many different ones out there. And I don’t know about you, but I mostly play in my same three settings, but find shared screenshots here intriguing because they look so different.

So I thought it would be kind of fun to exchange entire roleplay settings. Model, persona, character card, lorebook and preset. Maybe in a pastebin if it’s just a lean preset and character card + persons. Or maybe with a reputable filesharing site for lorebooks if necessary (if allowed by sub rules, I don’t know)

Who knows, maybe someone finds something they like this way, because they try to roleplay with a different scenario, tense, POV.. for the first time they otherwise wouldn’t have tried. Maybe it’s just to go a bit crazy in a stranger‘s roleplay because your own feels too important to try things out. Like… when I type „my eyes dart around“, my phone often autocorrects dart to fart and I‘m so immature it makes me cackle. But my own roleplays are serious and important to me and I never actually hit send, even though I know I can reroll. In your roleplay though… oh boy. I‘d wreak havoc. And it would also be kinda fun to show the owners what sort of shenanigans you‘re up to in their world. Like, their love interest is not your love interest. You’d engage totally different with them. I thought it could be funny, if not enlightening to see a different experience.

I‘d wager it would only make sense, if lots of people participated to have a great variety of models (or even compatible models for the presets), scenarios, etc. Otherwise a lot of people might scroll past niche fandoms for example and don‘t find anything they‘d like to try themselves. Although I think it could be fun to even try those.

Obviously feel free to ignore this, if that’s not your cup of tea. I‘m also not sure how I would get this going. In the comments of this post? In posts of people sharing? We will see what people like, I suppose.

I‘m a non-native speaker but am actually quite good at using similar words correctly, like their, there or they’re. I never fully realized that I have mnemonics for them until I was asked how I remember them. I just do it automatically now, but at some point I must have used these to keep them apart but I don’t remember consciously coming up with them. So I wanted to share some of mine and was hoping to hear some of yours too.

there - contains ‚here‘, another adverb of place
they‘re - apostrophe because it‘s ‚they are‘ connected
their - method of elimination basically (edit: but if someone struggles with this, maybe it could help to remember it has to match heir when you say ‚their heir‘. Just came to me and it makes sense in my mind lol)

peak - very subjective feeling that there’s a peak in sound from e to a. Not when pronouncing the word, but in my imagination

peek - contains ‚eek‘, a sound someone might make if caught peeking

pique - I just imagine a movie villain twirling his mustache and exclaiming „You have piqued my interest“, so the sophisticated spelling matches the vibe of the word

The personal benefits of journaling are often the center of discourse around it. From gratefulness, to more awareness, relief from pouring out your thoughts and feelings and more. I personally mostly value the reflective aspect of it.

I’ve been journaling on and off for most of my life and I have noticed how it helped me influence my awareness and direction of attention.

When I started journaling as a child, my entries looked very much like every other childlike first attempts. I mostly wrote about what I did and lamented about friends and first crushes. Eventually I found those entries embarrassing, as we often do as we grow out of that thought pattern. I tried to change the way I journal as a teenager and attempted to write more maturely.

What came out of it was an angsty writing style. I had that typical first burst of ‚Weltschmerz‘, the overwhelming feeling resulting from the world‘s injustices and wrongs. I wrote about everything that made me feel bad. From the state of the world to personal grievances. I also started ruminating. Now, that didn’t just happen because I tried to write more maturely, it was generally a difficult phase. But trying to write them out caused me to think about issues more thoroughly and in-depth than I would have otherwise. And it wasn’t problem oriented, it was lamenting. Valid, but eventually I was sick of it.

So I both matured further and simultaneously decided I no longer want to ruminate. Neither in my journal, nor in my thinking. Because of the way I previously journaled, I had a pretty good grasp of what these thought patterns looked like in myself and recognized them when they happened. For journaling I then decided to instead focus on describing what I did, what I observed and on positives in my life. Not exactly practicing gratefulness, but recording positive memories. I noticed a shift again. While I was going about my life, I paid more attention to positive situations and explicitly told myself to remember everything so I could capture it in my journal. It made me more aware of these moments.

But I also noticed how my attention shifted from internal to external. I mostly recorded what was externally observable. What has happened, how people reacted and barely how that made me feel or my thoughts. I noticed this slowly creeping into my creative writing style. Sure, show don’t tell is often considered good writing, but I felt like I have overdone it. I had issues writing about my characters‘ internal thoughts and describing their emotions. Not necessarily naming them, but capturing what they felt. It makes sense to me now, because I no longer was practiced in doing so.

So recently I have purposefully shifted again. I tried to focus more on my own thoughts and emotions. For example: I enjoy having deep conversations and discussions with loved ones about complex topics but always found it a bit regretful that I never really captured the points being made. Or sometimes I have an interesting thought but only entertain it fleetingly instead of taking my time to explore it. I lately have found my thinking a bit lazy. So I started paying more attention to these thoughts. After an interesting debate I make brief notes in a notebook to write them out later. And I began questioning my own feelings more instead of just sitting with them.

It has been two weeks and I already notice a shift in my thought pattern as well. I pay more attention to my thoughts, feel more attuned to my emotions and linger more on interesting thoughts. I also started understanding them better again which helps me solve things I haven’t been too satisfied with.

Now, of course it’s not a perfect causality. I don’t believe that journaling alone influences my thought pattern. I believe that my thought patterns and emotional state definitely also influence my journaling just as much. I just thought it was fascinating how I notice my attention and awareness shift depending on what I find worth recording and writing down.

Have you noticed anything similar? How your thoughts impacted your journaling and your journaling your thoughts? Not just feeling better overall from doing it, but the way you perceive the world.

I just want to show my gratitude to Ethan for blessing us with After Dark!

I have seen a few creators on Youtube launching something like a spin-off show on their own channel and I always found them extremely annoying because they just clogged my feed and weren’t interesting to me.

After Dark is the only show like that I really love and am looking forward to. I like it as much as the main show now. Also, to really glaze Ethan here, choosing this specific combo of Kate, Harley and David was pure genius. Their banter is so fun and their personalities really complement each other.

Kate is mad disciplined in keeping the show on track and gets it just right between being too strict and too lenient. Harley‘s specific brand of humour really gets me every time and I love how Kate and David play so well off of him. Oh and David, he truly is a magician with how well he’s running the show all by himself! And his soundbite game is really strong by now too.

The topics overall are also well selected. But even if something initially doesn’t interest me, I notice myself sticking around and still find myself entertained. Either because the three of them make it funny enough, or because I actually really value all of their takes. I like how measured and well thought out their points often are and find myself agreeing with their takes a lot. And of course I love how unhinged they can get. That mohel joke still makes me laugh when I think about it and it’s even funnier that it came from Kate!

I don’t know why I wrote this like a review. I’m just watching right now and wanted to share my joy with all of you.

So thanks Ethan! And thanks to the AD team for putting up such a great show for us!

I enjoy journaling, writing down my observations, thoughts, etc. I also like looking for inspiration what others write about and look at nice journals.

I just don’t like the big journaling sub because it has these self help vibes. Nothing wrong with it, just not my cup of tea. I‘m not looking for self improvement and self affirmation, or self validation and journaling therapy sessions.