A rough idea of interfaith relations in Hindu texts

These are few verses from the Brahmavaivarta Purana's Krishna-janma-khanda. The context is Vasudeva trying to cool down Kamsa's anger when the latter is about to kill Devaki. Vasudeva says

>वसुदेव उवाच - राजनीतिं न जानासि शृणु मे वचनं हितम्‌। यशस्करं च दोषघ्नं शास्त्रोक्तं समयोचितम्‌ ॥ अस्या एवाष्टमो गर्भो मृत्युश्चेत्तव भूमिप। इमां च हत्वा दुष्कीर्तिं करोषि त्वं नरः कथम्‌ ॥ वधे च क्षुद्रजन्तूनां हिंसकानां च पण्डितः। कार्षापणं समुत्सृज्य मृत्युकाले प्रमुच्यते॥ अहिंसकानां क्षुद्राणां वधः शतगुणं ध्रुवम्‌ । प्रायश्चित्तं मृत्युकाले कथितं पद्मयोनिना ॥ वधे विशिष्टजन्तूनां पश्चादीनां च कामतः। ततः शतगुणं पापं निश्चितं मनुरब्रवीत्‌ ॥ नराणां म्लेच्छजातीनां वधे शतगुणं ततः। म्लेच्छानां च शतानां च यत्पापं लभते वधे ॥ सच्छूद्रैकस्य च वधे तत्पापं लभते पुमान्‌ ॥ सच्छुद्राणां शतानां च यत्पापं लभते वधे । तत्पापं लभते नूनं गोवधैकेन निश्चितम्‌ ॥ गवां दशगुणं पापं ब्राह्मणस्य वधे भवेत्‌ । विप्रहत्यासमं पापं स्त्रीवधे लभते नरः ॥ विशेषतो हि भगिनी पोष्या च शरणागता । स्त्रीहत्याशतपापं च भवेदस्या वधे नृप॥

Translation : Vasudeva said : You don't know anything about statecraft. Hear from me good words that bring in glory & destroy defects over time. O king ! When her 8th child is destined to kill you, then why do you want to do this bad deed of killing her ? The wise say that on killing aggressive small animals (like snakes & mosquitoes), one gets delivered from the sin during deathbed by donating one karshapana coin (in charity). Killing non-aggrrssive small animals is surely a 100 times more sinful. The penitence is also accordingly designed to be performed at the deathbed by the Lotus-Born One (i.e Brahma). Willingly killing prominent animals and quadrupeds is considered by Manu to be 100 times more sinful (than the preceding case). Killing m*lecchas is considered a 100-times more sinful (than killing animals). A man earns the sin of killing a 100 m*lecchas by killing a single single good shudra. Surely by killing a single cow, one can earn the sin of killing no less than 100 good shudras. Killing a brahmana equivalent to killing 10 cows. A man earns the sin equivalent to killing a brahmana by killing a woman. And this happens to be your own sister, who has been reared under you and has sought refuge under you. O king ! Killing her will be equivalent to killing a 100 women. [Brahmavaivarta Purana:4:7:19-28]

What makes this remarkable is the explicit recognition of the fact that killing non-believers is nothing to be proud about, for it is still a heinous sin. Some might take umbrage at the fact that worth of human life here is being categorised into hierarchies, to which my response is — organising hierarchical structures has always been inherent to human society. Nobody challenged it untill UN Declaration of Human Rights came up with equality of all of humanity. Surely you can't expect an ancient text to confirm to principles developed during the mid 18th century. With that we progress to the next layer

Shukranitisara is a Hindu text dedicated to the statecraft. In the chapter dedicated to royal duties, it states

>ससङ्करचतुर्वर्णा एकत्रैकत्र यवनाः । वेदभिन्नप्रमाणास्ते प्रत्यगुत्तरवासिनः ।। तदाचार्यैश्च तच्छास्त्रं निर्मितं तद्हितार्थकम् ।

Translation: The Yavanas have all the 4 varnas mixed in together, intercaste unions (regularly occur) among them. They live in the North amd the West (of the Indian subcontinent) and follow texts other than the Vedas. They have their own scriptures created by their preceptors for their welfare. [Shukranitisara:4.3:35-36.01]

This is an explicit recognition of legal plurality. In the next chapter, the text then states how to approach this legal plurality

>देशजातिकुलानां च ये धर्माः प्राक् प्रवर्तिताः । तथैवः ते पालनीया प्रजा प्रक्षुभ्यन्तेऽन्यथा ।।

Translation: (The king) should follow the customs in the way they were introduced in the past among various lands, castes and and families, otherwise the subjects get angry. [Shukranitisara:4.5:48]

The fear of popular discontent was such a big factor that even Narada smriti designated पाषण्डनैगमश्रेणीगणधर्मविपर्ययः (i.e. disruption of the customs followed by heretics, communes, organisations and masses) as नृपाश्रय व्यवहार (i.e. judicial procedure that require state intervention), in order to maintain law and order of the land. The same text says

> नाभिशस्तान पतितान द्विषो नापि नास्तिकात्‌। नावसन्नान्निर्निमित्तां दातारं न प्रपीड्य च॥

Translation: (The king) shouldn't harass those who are hated by the masses, the fallen (excommunicated/apostatised), the public enemy, the non-believers, the distressed and the charitable person without any reason. [Narada smriti:17:40]

So a certain amount of tolerance to people of other faith was sanctioned in the dharmasastra based on the principle of keeping law and order.

Wait should be done in case of violent activities, for example temple desecration

Vishnusmriti says

>प्रतिमाभेदकश्चोत्तमसाहसं दण्ड्य - The breaker of icons is to be punished with the uttama sahasa

The Katyayana smriti says

>हरेद्भिन्द्याद्दहेद्वापि देवानां प्रतिमा यदि । तद्गृहञ्चैव यो भिन्द्यात् प्राप्नुयात् पुर्वसाहसम् ।।

Translation: Those who steal, break or burn divine icons or destroy their residences, receive the punishment under the first sāhasa (i.e the uttama sahasa)

Uttama sahasa is defined as

>वधः सर्वस्वहरणं पुरान्निर्वासनाङ्गके । तदङ्गछेद इत्युक्तो दण्ड उत्तमसाहसे ।।

Translation: Death sentence, confiscation of entire property, banishment from the domain, branding and mutilation of limbs - these are stated to be the punishments inflicted in case of uttama sahasa. [Naradasmriti as quoted as Dandaviveka]

कर्णौष्ठघ्राणपादाक्षिजिह्वाशिश्नकरस्य च । छेदने चोत्तमं दद्याद्भेदने मध्यमं भृगुः ॥

Translation: According to Bhṛgu, amputation of the ears, lips, nose, feet, eyes, tongue, genitals and hands is equivalent to the uttama (sahasa) while only mutilation of the same is equivalent to madhyama (sahasa). [Katyayana smriti as quoted in the Vivadaratnakara].

This definitely shows that whole a certain extent of toleration is sanctioned on the basis of statecraft, abuse of that privilege isn't tolerated, for the tolerance is not based upon equality.

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u/Fabulous-Ad-9969 — 18 days ago
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Bharat Mata before independence movement

On the top is a lithograph printed in 1896 from Calcutta is labelled 'Go-mata'. It shows the various Hindu deities located at various limbs of a cow's body. While this is nothing new, as such prints were widespread throughout the market in response the cow protection movement of the Arya Samaj, which began in 1880s, this was stands out for its inclusion of Bharat Mata.

The crouched woman in red sari is labelled as Bharat Mata. She is holding to her naked infant child (who is labelled as representing Hindus) while with her other hand, she holds a potful of milk (which she has supposedly milked from the cow), which she is pouring into a glass of a boy dressed in a black fez and red sherwani, who is labelled as representing Muslims. Infact the red fez and black sherwani was a fashion style exclusively associated with contemporary aristocratic Bengali Muslims. Another boy with white skin & blonde hair dressed in the uniform of a British sailor is extending his hand holding a cup (asking for the milk). That figure is labelled as English, and surprisingly is modelled after an 1846 painting of Prince Edward (future Edward VII), popular prints of which would have been widespread in the city at that time. Amd even more surprisingly, the figure of Bharat Mata holding a child is actually based on a contemporary lithograph of the infact Krishna and Yashoda painted by Raja Ravi Varma in 1895 that was printed in Bombay at the the next year (shown below for comparison). The similarity between Bharat Mata and Yashoda is striking, down to the style of the sari (red with yellow borders), jewellery and hairbraid. Same can be also be said of Cas eof the Hindu infant with Krishna (over the choice of accessories like jewellery, laddu in hand and body type).

This depiction is significant, because although the concept of Bharat Mata had been established in Bankimchandra's novel Anandamath (published in 1882), Bharat Mata hadn't developed any fixed iconography yet, which meant that artosts had the freedom to imagine Bharat Mata in any possible manner. Amd while it is true that there isn't a hard and fast rule regarding Bharat Mata's iconography, reinterpretion of the iconography like in this lithograph is practically impossible nowadays.

u/Fabulous-Ad-9969 — 19 days ago
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Coronation in Hinduism:A short summary

Coronation has a very prominent presence in Hinduism. However, on television, whenever a Hindu coronation is re-enacted (when it appears in the Ramayana & Mahabharata), it mostly goes down to being simple enthronement, anointing with the tilaka & crowning with the crown inmidst of random chants, which is most likely derived from ceremony of Gurgaddi, developed within Sikhism, which is famously anti-ritualistic. Bahubali 2 goes even further by incorporating scenes from the British coronation ceremony like military guard of honour, singing of an anthem and a coronation oath. The Sanskrit words for coronation is rajyabhisheka which means that it must have included an abhsheka (ceremonial bathing), which atleast makes it's appearance in the Mahabharat serial televised in late 2010s. But the rest is nonsense as usual.

The Hindu coronation ceremony is indeed a grandiose affair with an elaborate liturgy that is yet to be seen in television. Here is an excerpt from description given in Hinduism Stack Exchange.

>Coronation rituals first appear in the Atharvaveda-pariśiṣṭa. It strongly opines that coronation rituals are to be conducted only the Ātharvaṇa brāhmaṇas, & not by Bahvṛca, Adhvaryu and Sāmaga brāhmaṇas. However this was not strictly followed. For example, Śivājī's coronation was performed by Visveśvara Bhaṭṭa, a Ṛgvedī Deśastha brāhmaṇa from Vārāṇasī.

This might be because Ātharvaṇa brāhmaṇas are difficult to find. Today the Atharvavedī brāhmaṇas are found only among the Nāgara brāhmaṇas of Gujarat and the Utkala brāhmaṇas of Odisha.

>Coming back to the ritualistic part, AVP states that after the astrologer has chosen a date, on the night before that date, Devī Rātrī (most likely Kālarātrī) is worshipped with the chanting of the Rātrīsūkta in order to ward of untimely death, for Her very appearance is considered as an omen of impending death. At that night, the priest then chants Ātharvaṇa mantras of protection, performs homa with black sesamum accompanied by the chanting of Rakṣoghnasūkta to avert paranormal obstructions, performs adoration of the candidate with pradīpas that had been offered to Rātrī (in Hindi, this is called ārti utārna), sprinkles sugar across all directions, incenses the candidate's body with guggula to avert disease amidst chanting of the Yakṣmanāśana sūkta & binds the sacrificial cord called pratisara on his hand. The candidate then performs a thrice pradakṣiṇa of Rātrī's effigy, which is then cast away outside the house as a way to ceremonially dismiss Her malefic presence, following which the candidate returns home.

On the day of the coronation, the priest consecrates the cushion, throne, khaṛga, flag, white umbrella, cāmaras, chariot, horse, elephant, bow, quiver, armour, collyrium, garlands, unguents & jewellery by sprinkling holy water from the blades of durvā grass, uttering Atharvaveda:6:40:1. The candidate now undergoes abhiṣeka.

Agni Purāṇa:218 & Viṣṇudharmottara Purāṇa:2:21 discusses the rajyābhiṣeka procedure & the related mantras. It additionally states that before this abhiṣeka, Aindrīśānti is to be performed in order to invoke Indra, the patron deity of kingship. Aindrīśāntī basically involves offering homa of ghee to Indra accompanied by chanting of specific Vaidika mantras dedicated to him. And on the day of coronation, before the abhiṣeka, homa is done addressing the 14 Manus, Bhagavāna Viṣṇu, Indra, Bhagavāna Sūrya, Visvedevas through their respective Vaidika mantras alongside other śāntika & pauṣṭika mantras. The remnants of the offerings (called sampāta) are then collected & stored in a pitcher.

Now comes the abhiṣeka procedure. The candidate is made to sit on an seat made of uḍumbara wood & his body is anointed with different kinds of soil. Here is the list

Head - Soil from mountain top
Ears - Soil from an anthill
Face - Soil from a temple of Bhagavāna Viṣṇu
Neck - Soil from a temple of Indra
Chest - Soil from the doorstep of the royal residence
Right arm - Soil from elephant tusk
Left arm - Soil from bull's horns
Back - Soil from the bottom of a consecrated water reservoir
Abdomen - Soil from the confluence of 2 rivers
Sides - Soil from both banks of a river
Waist - Soil from a brothel's doorstep
Thighs - Soil from a place of yajña
Knees - Soil from a place frequented by by cattle (barn or herding fields)
Shanks - Soil from a place frequented by horses (stable mostly)
Feet - Soil from a place frequented by chariots (basically important roadways)

Finally the head is then anointed with pañcagavya.

Now the candidate is bathed on being surrounded by representatives of the 4 varṇas. The brāhmaṇa from the east pours ghee from a golden vessel, the kṣatriya from the south pours milk/condensed milk (khīra) from a silver vessel, the vaiśya from the west pours curd from a copper vessel & the śudra from the north pours clear water from an earthen vessel.

Now a Bahvṛca brāhmaṇa anoints the candidate with honey, followed by the Sāmaga brāhmaṇa sprinkling holy water from the blades of the kuśa grass. The Ātharvaṇa priest then pours water mixed with the sampāta, accompanied by chanting of mantras specifically used for coronation (outlined in Agnipurāṇa)

The Tāntrika text Sāmrājyalakṣmīpīṭhikā also discusses rajyābhiṣeka. It states that

Anointing with ghee is to be done uttering Kṛṣṇayajurveda:1:1:10:3
Anointing with khīra is to be done uttering Ṛgveda:1:91:6
Anointing with curd is to be done uttering Ṛgveda:4:39:6
Anointing with water is to done uttering the Pāvamānī sukta
Anointing with honey is to be done uttering Ṛgveda:1:90:6

Then the candidate is bathed in the following poured down from a perforated vessel

Water mixed with herbs accompanied by chanting of Ṛgveda:10:97:1
Water mixed with unguents accompanied by chanting of Atharvaveda:6:38:3
Water mixed with flowers accompanied by chanting of Atharvaveda:8:7:27
Water mixed with seeds accompanied by the chanting of Śuklayajurveda:30:5
Water mixed with gemstones accompanied by chanting of Ṛgveda:10:103:1
Water mixed with kuśa grass accompanied by chanting of Śuklayajurveda:17:13

Now the Adhvaryu brāhmaṇa bathes the candidate with waters collected from various tīrthas & anoints his head & throat with gorocona.

The Ātharvaṇa priest now greets the bathed candidate as if he was an embodiment of Indra himself by chanting certain Vaidika mantras, offers him 2 pieces of consecrated clothing (namely an uttarīya & an antarīya), anoints him with consecrated unguents, applies consecrated collyrium & dresses him in consecrated jewellery. Accompanied by music & chanting of śāntika mantras, he is made to be seated on the consecrated throne, adorned by consecrated cushions made of the skins of lions, tigers, leopards, bulls & elephants, shaded by consecrated white umbrella & being fanned by consecrated cāmaras. The priest now offers madhuparka to him & places the paṭṭabandhana on his head. Over this paṭṭabandhana, the crown is placed accompanied by the chanting of Ṛgveda:10:173:4

Now the duly anointed & crowned king takes a gold coin with his left hand, rubs it on his body & donates the same to a brāhmaṇa with his right hand as a symbolic way of getting rid of sin. He is then made to see his own face on mirror & a vessel full of ghee, and then sees other auspicious things like an assembly of brāhmaṇas (to whom he bestows various gifts), a bovine family consisting of a bull, a cow and a calf (which he adorns), sacred fire (which he circumabulates), soil, black mustard, white mustard, paddy & barley.

Now the king is presented before his courtiers. Then he is dressed in the consecrated armour & handed over the consecrated bow & quiver. The priest then hands over the consecrated khaṛga (uttering words stated in the AVP)

The king is then paraded before the masses. First he rides on the consecrated horse, then the consecrated elephant amidst chanting of Atharvaveda:3:22:1 & finally the consecrated chariot amidst chanting of Atharvaveda:5:30:5.

The king then returns back, performs worship of Prajāpati Brahmā, Bhagavāna Viṣṇu, Indra & Navagrahas & ends the ceremonies by bestowing dakṣiṇa to the priest.

I would like to see all of these being re-enacted in the television. The producers have so much money to dole upon the actors, but so little to do actual research on these subjects.

u/Fabulous-Ad-9969 — 24 days ago
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Teaching the Gita in school

Observed this while visiting the headquarters of the Ramakrishna Math and Mission at Belur Math last year. Fro those who don't understand the text, it is Bhagavad Gita accompanied by Adi Shankara's commentary with annotations in Bengali. The Gita when sold without commentaries can be a small booklet, bur when the commentary is included, it can become a behemoth of a text. And this is only one commentary. In the Advaita circles, in addition to Adi Shankara's commentary, there is also the commentary of Sridhara Swami and Madhusudana Saraswati. And this is only the Advaita scenario, as the Gita's inclusion in Prasthanatrayi means that anybody who writes a commentary on the Brahma sutras must also write a commentary on the Gita as well. So we have Gita commentaries composed by Ramanuja, Madhva, Vallabha, Keshava Kashmiri, Abhinavagupta and so on. I assume that each commentary will be as voluminous as Adi Shankara's commentary as shown in this picture. Some commentaries also have their own sub-commentaries, for example Adi Shankara's commentary has a sub-commentary by Anandagiri, Ramanuja's commentary has a sub-commentary by Vedanta Desika, and Jayatirtha has composed a sub-commentary on Madhva's commentary. At this point, we can consider that studying the commentary with its sub-commentaries can be quite tedious. And the more recent commentaries by Bal Gangadhar Tilak, Aurobindo Ghosh and Paramahamsa Yogananda are also worth mentionable. Ay this point I would also liketo mention that all of these commentraies are unique, caliming independent origins without being inspired by works from other denominations. Which shows that a small booklet of 700 verses can punch way up it's weight.

This brings the question of inclusion of the Gita into school curriculum. Now and then I hear in social media that the government has proposals to include the text of the Gita into primary school curriculum of government-run schools, in order to make students more religious-minded. While the goal is noble, the execution is messed up. As shown in the previous paragraph, the Bhagavad Gita is far from being simple, with the brilliant minds of grown-up philosphers struggling and pondering over the text to produce collosal tracts of work as shown in the picture. If the aim is to foster religiosity through study of the Gita, then rote memorization (hallmark of the Indian education system) of the text is not the right way. In order to truly effective, a knowledge of the commentaries is also necessary. But if the government was to prioritise one commentary over the other, it will open up another can of worms (that is completely avoidable) thay will cause much harm than good. This shows that the people who want to thrust the Gita down into the immature brains of children by government decree have no idea about the complexity of the text itself. Their idea is basically imitation of the evangelical Christian politics of having the Bible included into school curriculum in the US. And describing the position of the Gita in Hinduism to be equivalent of the Bible in American Protestant Christianity is a big category error in itself. This error was actually propagated by ISKCON, who started the practice of distributing their version of the Bhagavad Gita in imitation of the evangelicals distributing study Bibles to passers-by in the US. This follows a line of other such steps done in plain imitation of US evangelical politics.

As a student of Ramakrishna Mission, I had a class (specifically designed by the institution, which being a religious body, had the freedom to add some additional religious courses) where we had to memorise select verses of the Gita. While I did benefit from it, I can tell that most of my peers absolutely loathed that class, but they couldn't avoid it because it was an easy source of marks, which added up to the finals. So they attitude towards that class (& other such classes that had religious content) was one of resentment. If you say that a similar government-enforced move can benefit many more like me, I will say that developing religious attitude from childhood is a matter of predestination, it can't be artificially cultivated. Prahlada turned out to be a devotee despite his surroundings due to his destiny, while Naraka became Narakasura despite being the son of Bhagavana Vishnu and Bhudevi also due to his destiny. Both Arjuna and Duryodhana had the opportunity to view Krishna's divine form, but while Arjuna believed in Krishna's divinity, Duryodhana chose to disbelieve because of his destiny, despite both growing up under the likes of Bhishma and Vidura. So religiosity is something which can't be artificially manufactured in children.

u/Fabulous-Ad-9969 — 27 days ago