u/Fightmebr0

Carvana owns the #1 CDJR dealership in the country

Before Carvana they sold 35 vehicles a month. After they purchased them it is over 350 vehicles a month.

Dealers have already complained and Stellantis is limiting how many dealerships Carvana can aquire.

Its not direct to consumer but it shows consumers are more than happy to order a car and pay a single price.

Who knew that after a 100 years of innovation people can figure out better ways to sell cars than what we did a 100 years ago?

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u/Fightmebr0 — 2 days ago

Why are they such babies?

Dealers feel like a child who can dish it but cant take it. They have no problem lobbying and fucking over everyday consumers but when someone proposes making things more equitable for consumers (like allowing more dealership competition) they pretend its the end of the world.

This article is comical but shows how these people think.

https://www.cbtnews.com/dealer-backlash-intensifies-over-automaker-letter-to-doj-len-bellavia-dealerlaw-com/

> would think that every general counsel for every OEM should disavow any participation or approval of this letter if they're smart.

Can you imagine with a straight face asking OEMs to retract the statement that they think your stupid laws that obviously harm consumers harm consumers?

>He further warns that this could be a prelude to something more aggressive: the push toward direct-to-consumer sales

Don't threaten me with a good time lol. The letter has nothing to do with direct to consumer sales though.

Another one

https://www.cbtnews.com/california-dealers-fight-against-direct-sales/

>There’s an attitude among some OEMs, certainly not all of them, that not only do we know how to make cars, we know how to sell cars better than our dealers do,” Maas said.

They are admitting it, can we finally lay to rest the whole OEM doesn't want to sell direct?

We need to shift the Overton window on dealers hard. Right now we are off the scale if they seriously think that repealing relevant market area regulations is too far.

There is so much that other countries do to dealers that we don't. We can cap doc fees to 50 dollars and ban marking up gap and rates and have mandatory 30 day used car return periods. We can limit the amount of dealerships a single company owns in an area. We can allow any OEM to sell EVs dtc.

There are a lot more of us then them.

u/Fightmebr0 — 2 days ago

NADA actions are indefensible

Im not sure who needs to hear this but if I mark up and item by 30% only to put it on sale for 20% that doesn't mean you save money

NADA spending literal millions on lobbying is so they make that investment back a thousand times over by making consumers pay more. The rules of the system are written by dealers and to no one's surprise do they favor dealers.

We can push back. We can change this. We can introduce mandatory return periods. We can make a cooling off period so people. We can allow any OEM to sell EVs DTC. We can just pass a law that overrides their franchise agreements just like dealers have done to OEMs time and time again.

u/Fightmebr0 — 9 days ago
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Imagine if Subway said they were trying to protect consumers from unfair business practices and tried to outlaw Chipotle because they used corporate owned stores.

Would anyone buy that? No we would see it for what it is anti competitve action to try and ban an alternative business model.

If dealers are so great and all of your customers just love you so much why are you scared of a little competition?

u/Disastrous_Trash1729 — 10 days ago