They're busy of course but to stay so very silent.

Feels weird.

Where are the promotional TikTok clips and Weverse messages?

Especially Jungwon — he's the one who makes sure to keep in touch every day, right? He keeps the parasocial IV drip going, I thought.

Comeback is a mere 15 days away.

And yet it's so, so quiet. 🤫

Chinese-language reaction to Ni-Ki and Mina's death

The Chinese-language reaction appears very strongly sympathetic to Mina and critical toward Ni-Ki, with the dominant argument going considerably beyond "Ni-Ki made an unfortunate remark."

The basic causal narrative being circulated is:

Ni-Ki's livestream → fans inferred that he was referring to Mina → Mina was identified/exposed → large-scale cyberbullying → Mina apologized → harassment continued → Mina died.

Chinese-language reporting is explicitly presenting Ni-Ki's livestream as the trigger or catalyst for the controversy, while acknowledging that neither Ni-Ki nor BELIFT has confirmed that his remarks were directed at Mina.

The Chinese discussion therefore tends to distinguish between direct perpetration and responsibility for setting the events in motion. A common underlying argument is essentially:

• Even if Ni-Ki didn't tell anyone to attack Mina, he knew—or should have known—what his fandom could do when an idol publicly complained about a particular type of fan.

That distinction is important because it would not be accurate to summarize the Chinese reaction simply as "everyone thinks Ni-Ki killed her." The more widespread position appears to be that his conduct materially contributed to the chain of events that ended in her death, while the people who actually doxxed, harassed, insulted, and pursued Mina bear direct responsibility for those acts.

There is also considerable criticism regarding the fandom response after Mina's death. Chinese reporting describes criticism of a fan statement defending Ni-Ki that also recounted alleged misconduct by Mina; critics characterized that as effectively hurting her again after her death, rather than simply defending Ni-Ki.

The rhetoric being used in Chinese

One of the most important recurring terms is 网暴 (wǎngbào), meaning cyberbullying or online violence.

Chinese coverage repeatedly describes Mina as having遭遇 大规模网暴 — "experienced large-scale cyberbullying." One Weibo search result describes the story as:

• 26岁日本女网红Mina因追星争议遭大规模网暴

Literally:

• "26-year-old Japanese internet celebrity Mina was subjected to large-scale cyberbullying because of a controversy over idol fandom."

The terminology matters because 网暴 isn't being framed as ordinary fandom criticism. It invokes the broader Chinese discourse around collective online violence, doxxing, harassment, and driving someone into psychological crisis.

Another significant term is 起底, meaning roughly "digging up" or "exposing someone's personal history." Chinese coverage describes Mina as having 遭起底网暴 — being subjected to having her personal information or history dug up and then being cyberbullied.

This is stronger than simply saying that people criticized her. 起底 carries the sense of investigating someone's background, identifying them, exposing information, and making that information available to others.

The Chinese discourse also places the episode conceptually within 人肉搜索 (rénròu sōusuǒ), the Chinese expression for crowdsourced identification or doxxing. Although there isn't sufficient evidence to say that this exact term is dominant in the current discussion, the broader framework is very much identification/exposure → 网暴, rather than merely "fans arguing."

The rhetoric directed at Ni-Ki

The strongest accusation is not simply:

• "Ni-Ki said something mean."

It is closer to:

• "He knew the power imbalance between an idol and an individual fan, knew how his fans behaved, publicly complained about certain fans, and the fandom subsequently found and collectively attacked her."

That makes foreseeability central.

The Chinese discussion therefore frequently operates through the concept of 责任 (zérèn) — responsibility.

The underlying question is:

• Ni-Ki有没有责任？ "Does Ni-Ki bear responsibility?"

rather than necessarily:

• Ni-Ki是不是杀人凶手？ "Is Ni-Ki a murderer?"

That is a significant distinction.

Chinese has very direct terminology for accusing someone of actually being a killer, including:

• 杀人凶手 — murderer/killer
• 杀人犯 — murderer
• 间接杀人 — indirect killing
• 逼死 — drove someone to her death
• 害死 — caused someone to die / killed someone through one's actions
• 帮凶 — accomplice
• 刽子手 — executioner

The conceptual territory of these accusations is present in the discussion, but it would be too strong to claim without a representative sample of the underlying posts that these are the dominant labels being applied to Ni-Ki.

The more defensible characterization is that a substantial portion of the Chinese discussion regards Ni-Ki as a causal or morally responsible actor, while reserving direct responsibility for the actual harassment for the people who carried it out.

What appears to be driving the criticism

The strongest argument is not simply:

• "Ni-Ki made a careless comment."

It is closer to:

• "He knew what his fans could do, publicly complained about a particular fan or category of fans, and that person's identity was subsequently inferred and she was collectively attacked."

This makes foreseeability especially important.

The emotional force of the Chinese narrative is also heightened by the reported sequence:

被点名/暗示 → 被认出 → 被网暴 → 道歉 → 仍然被攻击 → 绝望

That is:

• being singled out or implied → being identified → cyberbullying → apologizing → continuing to be attacked → despair.

The significance of the apology is considerable. Chinese reporting emphasizes that Mina allegedly apologized publicly, yet the harassment nevertheless continued. This makes the story appear less like a conventional fandom dispute and more like collective punishment that continued even after the person had attempted to make amends.

「网暴致死」

One particularly useful phrase for understanding the rhetoric is 网暴致死, which can be translated roughly as:

• "cyberbullying resulting in death."

This does not necessarily constitute a precise legal allegation of homicide. It is primarily a moral and causal description.

That distinction is important. It is quite different from saying:

• "Ni-Ki murdered Mina."

It means:

• "This person's death resulted from the online violence inflicted upon her."

That is much closer to the way the Chinese discussion appears to be conceptualizing the tragedy.

The broader expression 网络暴力致死 — online violence culminating in death — places the incident within a recognizable Chinese discourse about the potentially lethal consequences of collective internet harassment.

Why Ni-Ki's position is particularly vulnerable to criticism

Chinese-language accounts are also emphasizing that Mina was not simply an anonymous person who appeared in a single fandom dispute. She is being portrayed as a longtime fan who had repeatedly attended Ni-Ki-related events, including fan-sign interactions.

Whether every detail circulating about their prior interactions can be independently verified is a separate question. But the narrative being circulated is significant.

The story therefore becomes:

• "A longtime fan who had supported him was publicly criticized, and then his fandom turned against her."

That is emotionally much more powerful than the narrative:

• "Ni-Ki criticized an anonymous toxic fan."

Mina's final livestream

The reported circumstances of Mina's final livestream have also intensified the reaction.

Chinese social media is circulating the account that Mina was apologizing during her final livestream while in acute distress, with the livestream subsequently becoming part of the public record surrounding her death.

One Weibo search result describes it as:

• 直播道歉时情绪崩溃

— "her emotions collapsed while livestreaming an apology."

That imagery is enormously powerful in Chinese online discourse.

It transforms the narrative from:

• "a fan got into a fandom dispute"

into:

• "a woman was driven into an extremely distressed state while publicly apologizing, and the online attack did not stop."

Overall assessment

The Chinese-language reaction is overwhelmingly sympathetic toward Mina and overwhelmingly condemnatory of the people who participated in the harassment. Ni-Ki himself is also receiving pointed criticism.

The most defensible characterization is that a large portion of the discussion regards him as a causal or morally responsible actor, rather than literally the person who "killed" Mina. The implied chain of responsibility is:

Ni-Ki's remarks
↓
Mina becomes identifiable
↓
fans engage in collective online violence
↓
Mina apologizes
↓
the harassment continues
↓
Mina dies

The central Chinese objection is essentially:

• 你明知道粉丝会做什么，为什么还要这样说？

"You knew what the fans would do—why would you say it like that?"

That, rather than a claim of intentional killing, appears to best capture the strongest mainstream moral accusation.

There is also an important gradation in the perceived responsibility. The discussion can be understood as moving along a spectrum from carelessness to negligence to reckless disregard of foreseeable consequences, with some of the most critical voices moving beyond that toward language suggesting that Ni-Ki effectively "drove her to her death." The available evidence does not, however, establish that the dominant Chinese view is that he intentionally caused her death.

Finally, the distinction between public perception and established fact is critical. This is an extremely recent and rapidly evolving story. The police investigation is ongoing, and current reporting says that Ni-Ki and BELIFT have not confirmed that his livestream comments were directed at Mina. Consequently, the Chinese-language perception of Ni-Ki's causal responsibility is currently considerably stronger than what has been established as a matter of fact or law.

The betrayal narrative

Another important theme in the Chinese-language reaction is the sense that Ni-Ki betrayed or deeply let down one of his most devoted supporters.

The argument is not simply that Mina was "a fan." She is being portrayed as a longstanding and unusually devoted supporter who spent substantial amounts of money and time supporting Ni-Ki and ENHYPEN, including attending events and participating in fan-sign opportunities. Whether every specific claim circulating about the amount she spent can be independently verified is a separate question, but the broader characterization of Mina as a particularly dedicated and financially significant supporter is an important part of the narrative.

That changes the emotional framing considerably. The accusation becomes:

• "After everything she did to support you, how could you treat her this way?"

In Chinese, the relevant sentiment is not necessarily expressed through one single word meaning "betrayal." Several concepts capture different aspects of it:

• 背叛 (bèipàn) — betrayal.
• 辜负 (gūfù) — to let someone down; to fail someone who placed trust in you.
• 忘恩负义 (wàng'ēn fùyì) — being ungrateful or turning one's back on someone who supported you.
• 寒心 (hánxīn) — profound disappointment; having one's heart "chilled" by someone's behavior.

Of these, 辜负 may be particularly useful for understanding the sentiment. It is not necessarily an accusation of deliberate treachery. It conveys the idea that someone placed enormous trust, affection, and support in you, and you failed or disappointed them.

There is also a broader Chinese fandom concept of 氪金 (kèjīn) — spending substantial amounts of money to support an idol. In the context of idol fandom, financial expenditure can function as a visible demonstration of devotion. That makes Mina's reported spending especially relevant to the betrayal narrative.

The resulting argument is effectively:

• "She spent so much money supporting you, attended your events, bought albums and merchandise, and devoted so much time and emotional energy to you. She was one of your supporters, not your enemy. And when she became the subject of controversy, she was the one who ended up being attacked by your fandom."

The money therefore isn't merely being cited as a financial transaction. It is being treated as evidence of loyalty and devotion, which makes the perceived rejection or abandonment more painful.

The betrayal is perceived as coming from both Ni-Ki and the fandom

There are really two overlapping betrayal narratives.

First, Ni-Ki betrayed or failed Mina.

The personal version is:

• She supported you, trusted you, spent money on you, attended your events, and devoted herself to you. Then your remarks contributed to her becoming a target of your own fandom.

The emotional conclusion is:

• "You betrayed someone who loved and supported you."

Second, the fandom betrayed Mina.

Other fans are perceived as having turned against someone who was herself part of the same fan community and had helped support the group. This creates the particularly painful image of a devoted fan being attacked by the very community to which she had contributed.

There is then a deeper layer to the reaction: the incident can be interpreted as exposing the fundamental asymmetry of the idol-fan relationship.

Mina could devote enormous amounts of money, time, and emotional energy to Ni-Ki, but when she became inconvenient or was perceived as having crossed a line, she could apparently be transformed from supporter into target.

That can produce a profound sense of disillusionment:

• She treated the relationship as meaningful enough to devote a substantial part of herself to it, only to discover that the relationship was ultimately conditional and one-sided.

This is considerably more emotionally powerful than the narrower accusation that "Ni-Ki made an insensitive comment."

Why this intensifies the responsibility argument

The betrayal narrative also intersects with the question of foreseeability.

People operating from this perspective aren't necessarily claiming that Ni-Ki wanted Mina to be harassed or that he intended for her to die. Their argument is instead:

• "You knew your fandom. You knew how intensely fans could react to your words. You knew the power imbalance between an idol and an individual fan. Yet you publicly complained in circumstances where a particular supporter could become identifiable. You failed to exercise the restraint that someone in your position owed her."

That makes the accusation more sophisticated than simply calling Ni-Ki a "killer."

It becomes a combination of:

• responsibility — your conduct helped set this in motion;
• betrayal / letting her down — you failed someone who had given you extraordinary loyalty and support;
• and foreseeability — you should have anticipated what your words could cause.

The Chinese-language reaction can therefore be understood as containing at least three overlapping moral narratives:

① 责任 — responsibility
"You bear responsibility because your words set this in motion."

② 辜负 / 背叛 — letting her down / betrayal
"After everything she did for you, you failed or turned against her."

③ 网暴致死 — cyberbullying resulting in death
"The collective online violence ultimately contributed to her death."

Taken together, these produce a much more emotionally powerful accusation than any one of them alone. The criticism toward Ni-Ki is therefore not necessarily based solely on the proposition that he caused Mina's death. For many people, it is also based on the belief that he failed someone who had demonstrated an extraordinary degree of loyalty and devotion to him, at precisely the moment when his position gave him the greatest ability—and arguably the greatest obligation—to exercise care and restraint.

One qualification is important: there is not enough directly accessible Weibo/Xiaohongshu material to establish that 背叛 itself is one of the most frequently used words in the discussion. The more defensible observation is that the underlying betrayal/ingratitude narrative is clearly present, particularly in connection with the emphasis on Mina's history as a devoted and financially significant supporter.

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Niki will perform in Busan in a couple days and everyone (members, company, staff) will simply ignore Mina's suicide. Things will turn out just fine for Enhypen.

I think it's probably being handled like the Heeseung-SZA matter from years ago: ignoring it and moving on, knowing engenes will shield them, shout down critics, and flood comments with constant praise in overwhelming amounts to drown out anyone commenting on the incident.

It worked then and it'll work now.

Maybe, as was done with the prior SZA matter, Belift will threaten legal action in some oblique manner that doesn't acknowledge the incident. That's another tool to quiet everyone.

The comeback is just 16 days away and new teasers are still going to be released. The buzz is building and will overwhelm everything else. It's pretty clear that it's going to be their biggest album to date -- a huge success with record sales and music show wins.

Most fans won't think much of this incident by the comeback.

Most media are ignoring Mina, too.

I saw this on YouTube. It rings true to me. And it doesn't shield him but it also doesn't go too far in holding him responsible.

"I wish Ni-Ki had been more careful with what was, in effect, a mild but prolonged rant. He knows full well what engenes can be like, yet he mentioned a small group of specific fans ("other than those few cases..."), perhaps without fully considering how his words might be interpreted. Given how some fandoms operate, it was unfortunately predictable that engenes would try to identify those specific "few" fans and direct harassment toward them. It's a sad situation, and I can't help but think that, had those remarks not been made, this likely wouldn't have happened."

***

Addition:

The question is: "But for the negligent act (however politely and obliquely phrased and delivered), would the ultimate harm still have occurred?"

The answer is "no, probably not."

>"He was polite. Concert etiquette isn't inflammatory. He did nothing wrong."

To this now ubiquitous refrain (there are about five of them that everyone's using as shields), I'll paste my previous reply to someone in the thread:

Picture the situation: an idol is livestreaming to hundreds of thousands of intensely invested fans and very politely expresses his disapproval of a few fans’ behavior at a concert. He then spends five minutes discussing it in a remarkably serious and prolonged way. How out of the ordinary is that!

However politely delivered, what might such an unusually extended lecture (Did you actually watch all of it?) - one that refers to “a few” fans without identifying them - signal to fans who scrutinize every word and microexpression for clues about their idol’s feelings, particularly those who are inclined to attack anyone they perceive as having upset him? How might they respond?

There was already criticism of Mina’s behavior. But Ni-Ki’s very unusual and prolonged discussion of the issue arguably amplified that criticism by signaling to thousands of fans that someone had done something that seriously displeased him. The most extreme fans were then likely to start looking for the person or people responsible for that dissatisfaction. They'll identify and then pile-on, adding their most vicious hate to an already existing fire, turning it into an inferno.

The tone didn’t have to be aggressive or angry for it to function as a signal to those fans. In an already infamously toxic fandom (Has another K-pop fandom in the last decade prompted an actual completed suicide?), simply drawing prolonged, unusually serious attention to an unspecified group of offending fans can be enough to prompt the most obsessive members to go looking for someone to blame.

If every major media outlet in Korea covers this and someone like JYP or a prominent politician even briefly comments on it (unlikely I know), that's the end for engenes' "boys."

I'm sure the company and members are desperate for it to fade away like the alleged Heeseung slur thing. They won't acknowledge it because that'd add to the story, making it more likely to get taken-up by media outlets.

They created and encouraged this fandom from the start, but won't acknowledge its absolute worst crime to date.

​

"There are a few people who sometimes ask to be recognized."

"This is for those fans who go to concerts just to get some interaction.

Ni-ki: I want to focus on and take good care of all the fans, but sometimes, well, not just sometimes...

Ni-ki: Everywhere we go, there are a few people who constantly demand attention.

Ni-ki: But those people don't jump around or really enjoy themselves."

I heard it was a live stream the day after a Japanese fan gave Ni-ki flowers or something like that

1. Yup

2. Yup, they piled on that fan even more because of that

3. No no, but they used that to attack her even more

4. But saying this is so-so. He could've just said "Let's enjoy the performance together" and leave it as that

5. The idol was talking about fans in general but his fans used this to attack that fan even more

6. If I were in that situation... I think my heart would skip a beat. It's true that he's a bit reckless, but ㅠㅠ it just feels like everything's gone wrong...

7. It wasn't directed at anyone in particular, so why did they go and attack that fan..

8. It was just a normal livestream. His fans just used this as an excuse to attack her

9. It's not like he said anyone specific, but I can't say it's completely unrelated to her either

10. Aigo

You were the ones badmouthing that person online, so why are you acting like the victim now? Someone has d**d; is your sense of indignance really the most important thing? What actually matters here?

original post: here

1. ㅋㅋㅋㅋ The way nobody is replying to this is too funny

> (OP) Looks like I was right

2. The freaking ENGENE daily lives revolve around blaming everything onto others while swearing at others

3. I found out today that this kind of cyberb***ing existed, when they just don't feel sorry for anyone

4. If you watch how things unfolded starting from the middle of the night, you'll realize that the entire fandom are just mentally unstable

5. No but seriously.. someone d*ed, what is important for them?

6. The fandom just gradually became like that, they're such weirdoes, always acting like "we didn't do anything"

7. It's like they genuinely don't know what was happening so nobody could stop them, now they feel like they're unfairly treated

8. Then you should've stopped them if you truly felt sorry. Why are so many people who harbor hate towards the fandom over a deceased person keep popping out like that?

9. Here comes another murderer parrot

[theqoo] THE MAJORITY OF HATE COMMENTERS WHO CYBERB****ED THE JAPANESE INFLUENCER WERE JAPANESE FANS

"Japanese ENHYPEN fans cyberb****ed a Japanese fan because they asked the idols to deliver a bouquet, and the fan eventually took her own life. However, this Japanese person is now fabricating claims that Korean and Chinese fans were the ones who cyberb****ed, even though they had the least interest in Korea and China... It is frightening how Japanese people blame others now. So this is how they fabricate things."

Tweets:

If you go to that fan's account right now, you'll find nothing but Japanese, Southeast Asian, and South American people. Japan blatantly lies and fabricates things like this to make them established facts, and then spreads them overseas. Many malicious rumors about Korea originate from Japanese right-wingers. Their basic mindset is that if you tell a lie 100 times, it becomes the truth.

Just keep watching. Now in Japan, they are going to make a huge fuss claiming that Korean K-pop fans harassed an innocent Japanese fan, driving them to suicide. Then, people overseas will spread that story, saying the bullying issue in Korea is serious and that foreigners will demonize Koreans again.

No matter how I look at it, most of the people badmouthing that person are Japanese, so why are they demanding an apology from Koreans and Chinese people? ㅠㅠ I looked it up and found out that this person was a famous fan in Japan, and it was Japanese people who dug up their personal information, insulted them, and cyberbullied them. This obsession with Korea is terrifying.

Some comments:

- It's funny how she acts like she's close to the members and thinks she can shorten the distance however she wants. In the end, this idol is being used to fulfill that person's own desires.

- Seeing them ignore the distance between themselves and the girl they're meeting is honestly scary. The only fortunate thing is that they don't seem to realize how inappropriate she's acting

- Rather than genuinely wanting to support Ni-ki, her own self-satisfaction comes first, which is funny. she's already acting like an obsessive fan. No matter how much money you spend, idols and fans are still idols and fans. Because people recognize you as a fan, you shouldn't mistake excessive behavior as acceptable

1. Korean fans are just as bad

2. No but why are you only cherry picking Japanese comments? You're f*cking running with your own agenda... Why are you like this?

3. So are you asking us to only bash Japanese people?

4. This isn't the important part, it's that they're all ENHYPEN fans

5. Why are we writing posts about this? The fact is that this fandom is the worst. Someone d**d

6. This is hilarious. Koreans also participated in the cyberb***ing, but you're trying to only blame Japanese fans and turn away the blame from Koreans ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

7. Look at the fans cutting the tail again. Nobody is focusing on that ㅋㅋㅋ

8. You honestly think that this is important right now ?

9. And the room-salon b*tch is the first time Japanese fans learned about it. It was written by a Korean fan ㅋㅋ

10. Fangirls like you make me cringe so hard

​

Police are investigating the circumstances surrounding the d**th of a Japanese female influencer in her 20s who d**d while conducting a live stream on social media.

According to the police on the 5th, a report was received at approximately 5:33 a.m. that day stating that a Japanese woman in her 20s, identified as "A," had attempted su****e at an officetel (studio apartment building) in Hangang-ro-dong, Yongsan-gu, Seoul.

A was a TikTok influencer with approximately 80,000 followers; it appears she took her own life while hosting a live broadcast from her residence. The incident was reportedly transmitted live during the broadcast.

An acquaintance of A reportedly contacted the police, stating, "My friend attempted s****** during the broadcast." At the time, numerous posts urging a swift police response also appeared on social media platforms such as X (formerly Twitter).

source: https://n.news.naver.com/article/021/0002809445

original post: here

1. Instead of trying to manufacture "best fandom" awards by pitting fans against each other, we should focus on restoring a healthy K-pop fan culture; K-pop and the Korean Wave can only survive if the fans themselves thrive

2. It’s shocking that there are still so many people bashing that fan; there are just too many unhinged people in the K-pop scene

3. Even Korean fans cyberb***ed her to not end... Honestly, this was released even after her d**th

"Fangirls-ah, let's just not feed the troll, it's not like some room salon b**ch is worth anything to light a fire for... What's up with the people getting worked up for nothing? I just feel bad for Ni-ki"

4. This is so upsetting... Rest in peace

5. ㅠㅠ... I feel so sorry for her, coming from such a far away country to Korea too..

7. I saw the video of her sobbing and she looked so sad... No but it's not like she committed a crime big enough to k**l herself. Rest in peace

8. Are they that crazy of a fandom? Freaking chills... I pity her 

9. Gasp... Is this what happens when you meddle with idol fans..?

10. How many people have k**l themselves because of other idol fans? These people lose their minds when they fangirl on K-pop idols

[instiz] I WITNESSED THE ENHYPEN INCIDENT FROM BEGINNING TO END, LET ME WRITE IT OUT CLEARLY 

That fan was already pretty well known on TikTok.

I'd popped into her livestreams a few times before, and she consistently had a few hundred viewers. She was kind of the type of fan influencer who had both dedicated supporters and people who disliked her.

Since she's pretty and cute, she naturally had a lot of fans. But because of jealousy and some things from her past, she also had a lot of haters.

Then she went to ENHYPEN's US tour and uploaded a selfie.

The problem was that she took the selfie with them back to the stage.

International fans criticized her, saying, "Why would you go to a concert just to take selfies instead of watching the performance?"

She responded by posting, "This is just the way I enjoy concerts."

After that, Ni-ki went live during the tour.

He said something along the lines of how there are fans who come to concerts but don't actually enjoy the performance, they just want him to notice them, and that he finds that a bit uncomfortable.

He also said he understood taking photos or filming with your phone because he probably would've done the same.

The thing is, ENHYPEN concerts are already pretty well known for the "sketchbook/sign board" culture.

It's especially common among parts of the Chinese fandom, but even people in the front rows sometimes spend the whole concert focused on getting gifts or interactions from the members instead of watching the performance.

International fans have been talking about this for a while.

Since it's supposed to be a concert, not a fansign event, people assumed Ni-ki was expressing disappointment about fans who only care about getting interactions from the members.

Now, remember how I said there were already people who disliked that fan?

They saw this as their chance and started saying, "He's obviously talking about that fan."

Then they began mass-har**sing her.

Up to this point, it could have just remained a personal incident.

But then, because Ni-ki didn't accept her gift, she tried to have another member deliver it to him.

Sunoo is well known for being a member who usually grants fans' requests.

The fan gave Sunoo a sunflower.

But she actually wanted him to pass it on to Ni-ki.

For whatever reason, the situation didn't work out, so Sunoo eventually handed the flower back.

(At the time, Ni-ki was interacting with other fans.)

At first, Sunoo fans didn't know the full story.

One fan who had attended the U.S. tour uploaded a video saying something like, "Someone must have prepared this sunflower for Sunoo. He accepted it and smiled so beautifully."

But then the original fan posted on her own account that she was actually the one who had tried to give the sunflower.

(The sunflower incident and Ni-ki's livestream happened at different times.)

People then started saying,

"So this is the fan the members were talking about, the one who doesn't actually enjoy the concert."

"And on top of that, she used another member as a delivery person."

Because of that, she became the target of mass online har**sment from fans all over the world.

She eventually posted an apology.

But she included selfies of herself with the members.

That just led to even more ridicule.

People mocked her, asking why she'd include selfies in an apology, saying things like, "Is this just to make everyone jealous because they can't take photos like that?"

In her apology, she wrote that she had intended to give Ni-ki a rose and Sunoo a sunflower.

But later, during another livestream, she clarified that the sunflower had actually been intended for Ni-ki.

She also said she'd apologized to Sunoo during the meet-and-greet after the concert, and that Sunoo had apologized back, saying he was sorry he couldn't deliver the flower.

Then things got even worse.

During that livestream, the fan claimed that Ni-ki discriminates against Asians.

That accusation caused the global backlash against her to become even more intense.

Videos also surfaced of her crying while trying to get someone to deliver the flower.

Another video from the meet-and-greet showed Ni-ki talking to another fan while she repeatedly tapped him to get his attention.

As those clips spread, the international criticism of her exploded.

A few days after posting the apology, she set her account to "closed."

Then shortly afterward, she reopened it.

People mocked her for switching from "closed" back to "open" so quickly.

For reference, Korean fans generally weren't the ones publicly har**sing her.

Most of the mass criticism came in Japanese and English.

For almost a week, my recommendation feeds were flooded with posts about her every single day.

She received an unbelievable amount of hate.

I figured a lot of people probably don't know the full situation, so I wrote down everything I know.

She's really young and pretty, so I honestly feel bad for her.

original post: here

1. Someone d*ed, can people stop trying to blame it on a reason? This is just sad 

2. I've seen so many people mock her saying "Why is someone releasing a selca in an apology?" in the QRTs

3. I just saw the news, this is so sad

4. I read it all, and this makes me even more weirded out by the cyberb***ing she got

5. Wow international fans are the worst

6. So in the end, international fans k**led her 

7. Ah... What in the world... 

8. Ah I feel so bad... How can a single individual withstand criticism from an indefinite number of people around the world? ㅠㅠㅠ

9. She passed??

10. It's true that people hated her because, in the end, she was pretty

Something I found. I think it makes some sense. I think this is why all artists and companies are partially responsible for occurrences like this.

>I think the "madness" among fans is largely a phenomenon of mental illness, and the industry, including individual artists, often encourage it, and therefore contribute to (and are therefore partially responsible for) the losses and damage that result from these cases of mental illness.

>If this happened in the US, I could totally see class-action lawsuits filed by entrepreneurial law firms against agencies and artists (I'm an attorney licensed to practice in CA, NY, and DC). The underlying causes of action could include negligence, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and varieties of fraud.

>Some fans are very young and/or socially isolated individuals vulnerable to mental illness who take the parasocial relationship seriously, and have been encouraged to do so by the companies and often the groups themselves.

>Idols saying things directly to individual fans like "Why are you getting a boyfriend? You have me. I don't want you seeing anyone else," can severely harm a mentally vulnerable person's mind. It's possibly reckless or at least negligent to say such things to a class of consumers with a well-documented history of mental illness and personal losses related to these parasocial relationships.

>The agencies and artists are well-aware of the danger of what they are doing: K-pop has a long enough history now that we can see that there is pattern of and virtual inevitability to mental and emotional harm caused by their encouragement of parasocial behavior.

>The agencies and artists know the practice of cultivating these relationships over time is lucrative, but they also are aware that over time the effects of these relationships can cause harm to fans, aggravating underlying mental illnesses. They knowingly accept the risk and act in ways that can harm consumers because of the potential profits they can realize.

>I haven't yet seen a new group launch where the company and/or group makes it clear/warrants that there are boundaries, that the members have private lives, and that they can't be anything like a boyfriend or girlfriend to fans. That kind of "warranty" should be obligatory at this point.

>So far to varying degrees, agencies and artists have done the opposite, and the effects have been disastrous.

I'm not taking any specific fandom name.

So the kpop fan has taken her life after being bullied by the kpop fandom .

There was a fan behaviour that the idol called out while being live and the fanbase assumed this (lated person) was the one that kpop idol talking about . They started targetting her , bullying her . She apologized for 3 days but fanbase won't stopped . Today she went live on X space,tiktok and ended her life .

RIP to her soul 🙏🏻.

So this isn't a rumor circulating anywhere in the international side, but I was reading up some stuff spread on the K-side of the fandom, and people have been talking about how he got kicked out from Enhypen because he got someone pregnant (some say it's even a female engene).

Anyways, here are some highlights of the speculations, which tbh, I think it kinda adds up:

1. He didn't want to leave Enhypen, yes, he wanted a solo career on the side, but the company AND him never wanted to part ways

2. His departure was really abrupt to the point he even had group activities lined up that he had to still participate and some he had to withdraw from. This shows that he got caught doing something last minute, but not something big enough that warrants him being exiled from the industry aka, a crime

3. His new solo is cheap. There was 0 promotion, 0 investment made, 0 sincerity. Hybe doesn't care about him anymore, but they had to keep promoting him for the sake of the legal stuff , like the contract he signed. For someone who wanted a solo for this long, why would it be so underplanned, underinvested and underpromoted? Seems odd to me

4. Why a pregnancy rumors make sense? It doesn't, the K-side doesn't have any definite proof of it, but looking at past scandals with members suddenly dropping out from the debut line or from the group, most of the time, it involved someone getting someone pregnant (HyunA), or getting into dating controversies (Seunghan, the dude from DAY6), Youngseo, etc.