u/FrozenOnPluto

Hey my friends! I've always hit Hamilton for events by car, never really cycled around the area; what with the gorgeous nature and tonnes of little spots - this is clearly a mistake!

My actual question is .. given the routes below (or recommendations?), is it a really brutal hill where I'm wanting to go, or is it more gradual and doable by a fat old cyclist who can do the km, but always does flat routes :)

Plan so far: from Toronto out to around north Hamilton and Waterdown area ("go find a waterfall" is the challenge). (Future goal, go under the Skyway and see south side of Hamilton)

Hitting google maps I see a couple obvious routes..

- eat the climb earlier and from north-ish side of Burlington westward on 1 Side Road through Waterdown area

- or eat the climb from north side of Hamilton (La Salle park) itself, northish up Waterdown Rd and Mill St

Are those brutal climbs, or fairly gradual?

Any other way to get to Waterdown area without killing myself on climbs, cause the distance is already a heck of a thing?

Like, I can come along the lake and not hit the Skyway area, go north; or I can come along north side of Burlington?

(oh god, why am I doing this to myself)

edit: paved roads only please, no offroad, dirt roads, gnarly gravel; too many broken bones in my past :)

edit 2: Sounds like Snake Road is the way to go, or failing that, the Side Road approach; you guys are the best, thanks!

Trying to gauge interest in multiplayer games; like, how many people _ACTUALLY_ have a viable network for their retro machine of choice, and would _actually_ use it to connect to a server on the internet? (for a free of $ game)

Like, I always thought the modem-to-wifi adapters were a cool idea (was going to make one, then discovered a few already existed, and nowadays theres plenty of options for most retro machines) .. but in practice I never actually use the one I have. I bet lots of folks like me... or maybe no one actually has them in any real quantity.

If there are hundreds or thousands of people who would _actually_ give a game a shot, it might be worth folks developing software for them. So, I'm curious..

Do you actually have some sort of network for your retro machine? (vic, c64, c128, amiga, even ST, Atari 8bits, etc)? I imagine C64 is the most populous (ignoring NES and such), so is likely the best platform to gauge interest in?

I find I just.. never stand to peddle; okay, maybe I also choose routes that don't have monster long climbs as I'm in a mostly fairly flat area....

.. but does anyone else just sit the entire ride?

I can stand and peddle but I find it not comfortable and I just don't ever do it. I'll do 80km, sitting and grinding it out.

If a hill is too much to get up on weakest gear, I'll just walk the last bit. (I'm older and fatter, so its a lot more watts to get up sometimes, and I watch my HR so I don't blow up). But as its flat, I just dont' do long climbs.. sometimes theres steep short ones, but no long multi thousand foot climbs.

Is 'always sitting' rare, or common?