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I see someone with really low self esteem and I feel for them and I naturally jump into action to support them or point out everything good about them. I've had a close friend say he's nobody and I automatically jumped in pulled him into the gym and got his confidence up. And I saw someone the other day who couldve been a model back in the day really really put herself down and I instantly tried to pump her head up. I can't stand to see someone have self esteem issues, it breaks my heart and makes me emotional because they are usually the best people, and have the most potential if only someone would support and believe in them, and I used to have super low esteem so it hits me in the feels. Whats someone that touches your heart and makes you jump into action?

I thought this method was pretty helpful. The way I found my type was the formula above I believe your passion and fixation will show up in a variety of contexts and really make things obvious when you reflect on it. You need to look for how often your passion shows up in your everyday life. For me as an so2, pride has reared its ugly head multiple times in certain shapes. Refusal to ask for help unless its not a pain for the other person, bulldog mentality, reliance on the external, entitled attitude to certain treatment when i feel im owed something just because i feel ive earned it. Of course flattery and good deeds color my interactions as well. Try this and see if it helps you.

I'm a 2w3, and while I generally vibe with 3s since I have alot of ambition to improve the lives of others as well as myself I sometimes have trouble understanding the occasionally repressed and colder side of 3s or 3 dominated work environments, can't stand it sometimes. What's a type that you sometimes can't understand or you conflict with?

2w3, here. For background when I was younger my main priority was finding belonging and love, and find that special someone. Over previous relationships I noticed one thing I missed was a sense of ambition. Im 38, and from age 34 to now Ive done nothing but go after things Ive wanted and felt needed to be done, helped guide me and 1w9 friend to 2 powerlifting trophies, helped set up work programs, become indepensible in my workplace, try to climb the ladder, and be the caretaker of my entire family. All this total hard work does not feel natural to me and im always wound up nowadays. Family and friends say they they are so proud of me and I have nothing to prove and they would love me anyway and all that matters is im a kind person, but I feel like I have to keep going. I was never like this until my last breakup. I was never a big achievement oriented person until now. I want to be chosen and loved but I feel like I have to run the gauntlet and become an indepensible person. I got a question for the image types. How do you find peace in your lives in this day and time? Im really curious and anything might help.

As a so2/ 2w3, my keyword is "ambition". I strive to take to care of my friends and family and help them live out their dreams and at work I strive to uplift, serve, and empower people, and I strive to move up the ladder so I can serve my broader community via having influence and pushing inclusivity and community work through my workplace.

My question is primarily to fellow so2s, 3s, so9s, and all other types what does ambition mean to you?

So2. So, this month friends, family, and work have been giving me a lot of appreciation that I haven't expected. My 3w2 buddy brought me a picture that I love and I hung it up in my hallway. My 1w9 friend told me I made his life better just by being his friend. My mom and dad who usually keeps to themselves keep inviting me down to their house just so they can cook for me. And all month my coworkers have been nothing but nice to me. They threw a surprise potluck for my birthday, my boss brought me breakfast just for showing up early, and my neurodiversity/inclusivity team recognized me for the behind the scenes stuff I've done. All of these things combined made me feel warm and fuzzy. This morning it finally hit me in the feels and I've been watery eyed for the past 2hrs. I feel legitimately cared about and loved. Do any other rejection types on here get emotional when alot of people really love on you all at once?

If you are an image type but having trouble deciding between 2 or 3. I've got you. Here are some quick facts to help you out. Look into which one resonates with you most.

1. Vice+fixation+core desire.

-E2 is associated with the vice of pride. This pride unconsciously dictates that you must put your needs aside to be present for others; that you must hold it together, not be weak. It gives you the impulse to be more than you already are, and appear benevelont and selfless. This presents in the fixation of flattery. Giving compliments, doing favors, gift giving, being the strong one, being the friend therapist, the reliable one, the one in the know, the one who knows what you need, the one who knows the way to big things in the future, ect basically anything to draw people into their world. Unfortunately at unhealthy levels, this can lead to entitlement and giving with strings attached. At its core, this attempts to fill a deep desire for love, particularly the need to be loved for just themselves no more and no less.

-E3 is associated the vice of vanity. Unconscious vanity says to 3s you must be someone in the eyes of others. You must stuff down your feelings and be a doer. Be more, do more, achieve more. Either you are a loser, or you are a winner. The fixation of self-deception ties them to the self they present to others and forces them to suppress emotions and keeps them from expressing important parts of themselves to others. They become what they do. At unhealthy levels, they overidentify with their image. The core desire for 3s is to be admired and valued fully for who they are, not just have people care about what they do.

2. Stress points and sublimation.

E2 and E3 are known for repressing and suppressing emotions but one thing I have noticed is how it can show up under stress. First, though a quick definition of a common defense mechanism known as sublimation.

Sublimation is the conversion of undesirable thoughts or feelings into a more productive or socially acceptable outlet.

-E2s are often highly emotional, often wearing their heart on their sleeves. When sublimating their emotions, E2s under stress often move to 8, channelling their unsaid aggressive impulses into fast-paced and frenetic action. Its common for 2s to like physical fitness as a hobby.

-E3s are naturally less emotional than 2s leaning more into cool, calm, and collected territory. When they sublimate, under stress, they move to 9, becoming even more cold and distanced from their emotions. Think of some of your favorite athletes in their clutch moments. E3s like Kobe Bryant and Tom Brady often became even more calm and collected under pressure often being stated that they had "ice in their veins".

3. Key differences

-E2s are the most emotionally expressive type on the enneagram, and can even be downright theatrical under stress and when moving to 8, or be hedonistic when their needs aren't being met, while 3s tend to push their emotions down almost to the point of being emotionally constipated for lack of a better word. E3s also have a problem of burning themselves out to the point of poor health.

-E3s curate an image of success that they defend constantly often making sacrifices that others wouldn't bother with. E2s want to be be seen as indispensable often taking on many dirty jobs they hope to be appreciated for.

-2w3 and 3w2 often get confused. 2w3s often are flirtatious, effusive, complimentary, and buddy-buddy types that will step in and try to help without you telling them to. These are often the people who spot the talents of others and will poke and prod said person to utilize said talents. They go out of their way to be liked and can suffer when they feel rejected. They care about their loved ones and they can high-achievers, but tend to always navigate through the avenue of relationships especially in the case of so2s. They can be social climbers or the anchor of their social circle.

-3w2s are goal-oriented go-getters who have alot of energy and alot of ambition. They often chase big goals and have big dreams. But the difference is if you don't like them, they probably will sleep just fine. They seek to be the best at everything. They can be sweet, peachy, and cordial and team oriented but at times they may fear being vulnerable. Like the 2w3 they often see the potential in others. But where the 2 may give you a gentle push, a 3 might throw you in the deep end and have you sink or swim if you become indecisive, they are an assertive type after all. At the end of the day, 3w2s really care about their circle but they really care about what makes them look great too.

These are a few quick things I put together I hope this helps.

Social 2. Lack of gratitude for someone's support system, insistence on staying melancholic or being a victim, and I hate being personally taken for granted. Whats your type and what are your top three pet peeves.

I'll start. One of my biggest hot takes is while us 2s are usually the assertive ones in a relationship, we can fall into unhealthy mousey behavior when we feel robbed of our autonomy. This is where the passive caretaker myth comes in. When we lose the one up position in relationships we care about whether it be a loved one or a spat with an authority figure, if we don't have the power to move to 8, our move to an unhealthy 4 takes place. What is your enneagram hot take?